XP SP2 IS THE WORST THING EVER

What's the ***'s for, got the Hick Up's?

SJ
"Steve McLaren" wrote in message
...

Whose 6 point plans are these? Where are they stated on Microsoft's
website? if these are prerequisites then M$ should explicitly say so. This
f*u*c*k keeps bashing everybody around but knows nothing or contributes
nothing.

There is no point in defending SP2 when MS has implicitly accepted that
SP2 may not be appropriate for everybody. They have issued a tool to stop
it from installing itself via auto-update mechanism. Why would anyone
spend time in developing tools just to counterits own patch?

Miss Tick, have you had a patch of SP2 applied to your b*o*o*b*s? Are you
good at Monica Lewinski position then?


Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:

Wayne wrote:
I spent the night on the phone to Micro$oft for them to just fob me
off with almost (not our problem!) answers. They got me to install SP2
twice and take it off twice and yet it still does not work. All it
does is reboot my machine after the welcome note comes up, if
Micro$oft think that this is sufficient then they should be very much
mistaken. They really do need to test these things properly before
putting them into the population. I am now thinking of not even
bothering as it is more bother than it is worth. If there is any
permenant problems which have now been caused through there inadequate
experienced staff, they will see a law suit hitting their doorstep
very shortly, or they will be required to get one of their "very
experienced" techie guys to sort out the problem, as I am an IT
manager and I have know idea what these cretins have concocted. I was
amazed by the fob offs saying that it was not there problem it must be
another program which is causing it, however I was only installing SP2
everything else worked before.

All Micro$oft want is a monopoly and do not care about there users and
that they may have non micro$oft software aswell on their machine.

Well I stick two fingers up at Micro$oft and will not be installing
SP2 until they have a finished piece of work

You are a moron of the highest order. You can't even spell "I have know
idea
[/sic/]" means you do because the word "know" means "to have knowledge
of".

So, you blamed MS for the problems instead of doing what you should have
done and PREPARED YOUR SYSTEM(S) BEFORE INSTALLATION!!

I hope your boss reads this and fires you on the spot!

Fail to prepare - prepare to fail. You didn't follow the Six Step Plan,
you
just ploughed on in and installed, didn't you?!

1) Defrag the hard drive(s)
2) Run a systemwide virus scan
3) Run a systemwide spyware scan
4) Update all your drivers
5) Update your software
6) Turn off AVP before installation.

Not MS's problem if you have no common sense! Or just no sense, full
stop!

Well, it is Texas. So, YES! lol

SJ
"Jack E. Frost" wrote in message ...
IMO the best IT managers are those that will tell Microsoft to shove their sp2 - thus saving themselves, and a lot of their clients/users, the potential for a whole lot of unnecessary headaches.

There is not a single thing in sp2 that a system can't run just fine without. However, there are a LOT of things in sp2 that an increasing number of systems can't live with!!

Texas Tech pulled the plug on sp2 after two or three installs. Maybe you suggest their IT department is in the 'Hardly' category?



"Richard Urban" wrote in message ...
You're an IT manager?????

Hardly!

--

Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Wayne" wrote in message
om...
I spent the night on the phone to Micro$oft for them to just fob me
off with almost (not our problem!) answers. They got me to install SP2
twice and take it off twice and yet it still does not work. All it
does is reboot my machine after the welcome note comes up, if
Micro$oft think that this is sufficient then they should be very much
mistaken. They really do need to test these things properly before
putting them into the population. I am now thinking of not even
bothering as it is more bother than it is worth. If there is any
permenant problems which have now been caused through there inadequate
experienced staff, they will see a law suit hitting their doorstep
very shortly, or they will be required to get one of their "very
experienced" techie guys to sort out the problem, as I am an IT
manager and I have know idea what these cretins have concocted. I was
amazed by the fob offs saying that it was not there problem it must be
another program which is causing it, however I was only installing SP2
everything else worked before.

All Micro$oft want is a monopoly and do not care about there users and
that they may have non micro$oft software aswell on their machine.

Well I stick two fingers up at Micro$oft and will not be installing
SP2 until they have a finished piece of work

No it doesn't.

SJ
"Plato" |@|.| wrote in message
...
Wayne wrote:

I spent the night on the phone to Micro$oft for them to just fob me

Purposly mis-spelling Microsoft makes you look like a newbie who needs
to consult your telephone directory to pay for pc support from somebody
who knows how to work with windows:

Yellow pages | Computer | Sales and service

Isn't it past your bed time troll?? Does mommy & daddy
know you're still up on their computer? Don't forget to
cover your tracks after looking up all those porn sites
before shutting down *eg*

-----Original Message-----
Will do, Dickwad.

SJ
wrote in message
...
Umm Miss B*tch don't forget scanning the drive,
diskclean, turning off the screensaver, the cold boot
and
then cleaning up afterwards with the advice from this
link
http://tinyurl.com/5ynvo *eg*

-----Original Message-----
You are a moron of the highest order. You can't even
spell "I have know idea
[/sic/]" means you do because the word "know" means "to
have knowledge of".

So, you blamed MS for the problems instead of doing
what
you should have
done and PREPARED YOUR SYSTEM(S) BEFORE INSTALLATION!!

I hope your boss reads this and fires you on the spot!

Fail to prepare - prepare to fail. You didn't follow
the
Six Step Plan, you
just ploughed on in and installed, didn't you?!

1) Defrag the hard drive(s)
2) Run a systemwide virus scan
3) Run a systemwide spyware scan
4) Update all your drivers
5) Update your software
6) Turn off AVP before installation.

Not MS's problem if you have no common sense! Or just
no
sense, full stop!

--
My great-grandfather was born and raised in Elgin - did
he eventually
lose his marbles?

Wayne wrote:
I spent the night on the phone to Micro$oft for them
to just fob me
off with almost (not our problem!) answers. They got
me to install SP2
twice and take it off twice and yet it still does not
work. All it
does is reboot my machine after the welcome note
comes
up, if
Micro$oft think that this is sufficient then they
should be very much
mistaken. They really do need to test these things
properly before
putting them into the population. I am now thinking
of
not even
bothering as it is more bother than it is worth. If
there is any
permenant problems which have now been caused through
there inadequate
experienced staff, they will see a law suit hitting
their doorstep
very shortly, or they will be required to get one of
their "very
experienced" techie guys to sort out the problem, as
I
am an IT
manager and I have know idea what these cretins have
concocted. I was
amazed by the fob offs saying that it was not there
problem it must be
another program which is causing it, however I was
only installing SP2
everything else worked before.

All Micro$oft want is a monopoly and do not care
about
there users and
that they may have non micro$oft software aswell on
their machine.

Well I stick two fingers up at Micro$oft and will not
be installing
SP2 until they have a finished piece of work



.

Whose 6 point plans are these? Where are they stated on Microsoft's website? if these are prerequisites then M$ should explicitly say so. This f*u*c*k keeps bashing everybody around but knows nothing or contributes nothing.

There is no point in defending SP2 when MS has implicitly accepted that SP2 may not be appropriate for everybody. They have issued a tool to stop it from installing itself via auto-update mechanism. Why would anyone spend time in developing tools just to counterits own patch?

Miss Tick, have you had a patch of SP2 applied to your b*o*o*b*s? Are you good at Monica Lewinski position then?


Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:

Wayne wrote:
I spent the night on the phone to Micro$oft for them to just fob me
off with almost (not our problem!) answers. They got me to install SP2
twice and take it off twice and yet it still does not work. All it
does is reboot my machine after the welcome note comes up, if
Micro$oft think that this is sufficient then they should be very much
mistaken. They really do need to test these things properly before
putting them into the population. I am now thinking of not even
bothering as it is more bother than it is worth. If there is any
permenant problems which have now been caused through there inadequate
experienced staff, they will see a law suit hitting their doorstep
very shortly, or they will be required to get one of their "very
experienced" techie guys to sort out the problem, as I am an IT
manager and I have know idea what these cretins have concocted. I was
amazed by the fob offs saying that it was not there problem it must be
another program which is causing it, however I was only installing SP2
everything else worked before.

All Micro$oft want is a monopoly and do not care about there users and
that they may have non micro$oft software aswell on their machine.

Well I stick two fingers up at Micro$oft and will not be installing
SP2 until they have a finished piece of work

You are a moron of the highest order. You can't even spell "I have know idea
[/sic/]" means you do because the word "know" means "to have knowledge of".

So, you blamed MS for the problems instead of doing what you should have
done and PREPARED YOUR SYSTEM(S) BEFORE INSTALLATION!!

I hope your boss reads this and fires you on the spot!

Fail to prepare - prepare to fail. You didn't follow the Six Step Plan, you
just ploughed on in and installed, didn't you?!

1) Defrag the hard drive(s)
2) Run a systemwide virus scan
3) Run a systemwide spyware scan
4) Update all your drivers
5) Update your software
6) Turn off AVP before installation.

Not MS's problem if you have no common sense! Or just no sense, full stop!

Sure he/she is - an Id 10 t (spoken Id ten t or idiot) Testing Manager (IT
Manager).

--

Star Fleet Admiral Q @ your service

*************************************************

"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
You're an IT manager?????

Hardly!

--

Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Wayne" wrote in message
om...
I spent the night on the phone to Micro$oft for them to just fob me
off with almost (not our problem!) answers. They got me to install SP2
twice and take it off twice and yet it still does not work. All it
does is reboot my machine after the welcome note comes up, if
Micro$oft think that this is sufficient then they should be very much
mistaken. They really do need to test these things properly before
putting them into the population. I am now thinking of not even
bothering as it is more bother than it is worth. If there is any
permenant problems which have now been caused through there inadequate
experienced staff, they will see a law suit hitting their doorstep
very shortly, or they will be required to get one of their "very
experienced" techie guys to sort out the problem, as I am an IT
manager and I have know idea what these cretins have concocted. I was
amazed by the fob offs saying that it was not there problem it must be
another program which is causing it, however I was only installing SP2
everything else worked before.

All Micro$oft want is a monopoly and do not care about there users and
that they may have non micro$oft software aswell on their machine.

Well I stick two fingers up at Micro$oft and will not be installing
SP2 until they have a finished piece of work

That's your best?
Well how disappionting.
It thoht it was funny.
*YAWN*
BTW: How do you cover those tracks, again?

SJ
"JM" wrote in message
...
Isn't it past your bed time troll?? Does mommy & daddy
know you're still up on their computer? Don't forget to
cover your tracks after looking up all those porn sites
before shutting down *eg*

-----Original Message-----
Will do, Dickwad.

SJ
wrote in message
...
Umm Miss B*tch don't forget scanning the drive,
diskclean, turning off the screensaver, the cold boot
and
then cleaning up afterwards with the advice from this
link
http://tinyurl.com/5ynvo *eg*

-----Original Message-----
You are a moron of the highest order. You can't even
spell "I have know idea
[/sic/]" means you do because the word "know" means "to
have knowledge of".

So, you blamed MS for the problems instead of doing
what
you should have
done and PREPARED YOUR SYSTEM(S) BEFORE INSTALLATION!!

I hope your boss reads this and fires you on the spot!

Fail to prepare - prepare to fail. You didn't follow
the
Six Step Plan, you
just ploughed on in and installed, didn't you?!

1) Defrag the hard drive(s)
2) Run a systemwide virus scan
3) Run a systemwide spyware scan
4) Update all your drivers
5) Update your software
6) Turn off AVP before installation.

Not MS's problem if you have no common sense! Or just
no
sense, full stop!

--
My great-grandfather was born and raised in Elgin - did
he eventually
lose his marbles?

Wayne wrote:
I spent the night on the phone to Micro$oft for them
to just fob me
off with almost (not our problem!) answers. They got
me to install SP2
twice and take it off twice and yet it still does not
work. All it
does is reboot my machine after the welcome note
comes
up, if
Micro$oft think that this is sufficient then they
should be very much
mistaken. They really do need to test these things
properly before
putting them into the population. I am now thinking
of
not even
bothering as it is more bother than it is worth. If
there is any
permenant problems which have now been caused through
there inadequate
experienced staff, they will see a law suit hitting
their doorstep
very shortly, or they will be required to get one of
their "very
experienced" techie guys to sort out the problem, as
I
am an IT
manager and I have know idea what these cretins have
concocted. I was
amazed by the fob offs saying that it was not there
problem it must be
another program which is causing it, however I was
only installing SP2
everything else worked before.

All Micro$oft want is a monopoly and do not care
about
there users and
that they may have non micro$oft software aswell on
their machine.

Well I stick two fingers up at Micro$oft and will not
be installing
SP2 until they have a finished piece of work



.

Testy,

Are you sure they are able to do that, I thought they just
sat at their desks, staring at blank screen pretend to
look busy. Then go around and give meaningless
suggestions to the people who actually do know their work.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
It could be, In many companies the IT Mamager is the one
who knows how to
turn the computer on!

Testy

"Richard Urban"
wrote in message
...
You're an IT manager?????

Hardly!

--

Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Wayne" wrote in message
om...
I spent the night on the phone to Micro$oft for them to
just fob me
off with almost (not our problem!) answers. They got
me to install SP2
twice and take it off twice and yet it still does not
work. All it
does is reboot my machine after the welcome note comes
up, if
Micro$oft think that this is sufficient then they
should be very much
mistaken. They really do need to test these things
properly before
putting them into the population. I am now thinking of
not even
bothering as it is more bother than it is worth. If
there is any
permenant problems which have now been caused through
there inadequate
experienced staff, they will see a law suit hitting
their doorstep
very shortly, or they will be required to get one of
their "very
experienced" techie guys to sort out the problem, as I
am an IT
manager and I have know idea what these cretins have
concocted. I was
amazed by the fob offs saying that it was not there
problem it must be
another program which is causing it, however I was
only installing SP2
everything else worked before.

All Micro$oft want is a monopoly and do not care about
there users and
that they may have non micro$oft software aswell on
their machine.

Well I stick two fingers up at Micro$oft and will not
be installing
SP2 until they have a finished piece of work




.

I've been reading your "posts", you contribute nothing
and are a troll. You've been fed too much. Adios

-----Original Message-----
That's your best?
Well how disappionting.
It thoht it was funny.
*YAWN*
BTW: How do you cover those tracks, again?

SJ
"JM" wrote in message
...
Isn't it past your bed time troll?? Does mommy & daddy
know you're still up on their computer? Don't forget to
cover your tracks after looking up all those porn sites
before shutting down *eg*

-----Original Message-----
Will do, Dickwad.

SJ
wrote in message
.. .
Umm Miss B*tch don't forget scanning the drive,
diskclean, turning off the screensaver, the cold boot
and
then cleaning up afterwards with the advice from this
link
http://tinyurl.com/5ynvo *eg*

-----Original Message-----
You are a moron of the highest order. You can't even
spell "I have know idea
[/sic/]" means you do because the word "know"
means "to
have knowledge of".

So, you blamed MS for the problems instead of doing
what
you should have
done and PREPARED YOUR SYSTEM(S) BEFORE
INSTALLATION!!

I hope your boss reads this and fires you on the
spot!

Fail to prepare - prepare to fail. You didn't follow
the
Six Step Plan, you
just ploughed on in and installed, didn't you?!

1) Defrag the hard drive(s)
2) Run a systemwide virus scan
3) Run a systemwide spyware scan
4) Update all your drivers
5) Update your software
6) Turn off AVP before installation.

Not MS's problem if you have no common sense! Or just
no
sense, full stop!

--
My great-grandfather was born and raised in Elgin -
did
he eventually
lose his marbles?

Wayne wrote:
I spent the night on the phone to Micro$oft for
them
to just fob me
off with almost (not our problem!) answers. They
got
me to install SP2
twice and take it off twice and yet it still does
not
work. All it
does is reboot my machine after the welcome note
comes
up, if
Micro$oft think that this is sufficient then they
should be very much
mistaken. They really do need to test these things
properly before
putting them into the population. I am now thinking
of
not even
bothering as it is more bother than it is worth. If
there is any
permenant problems which have now been caused
through
there inadequate
experienced staff, they will see a law suit hitting
their doorstep
very shortly, or they will be required to get one
of
their "very
experienced" techie guys to sort out the problem,
as
I
am an IT
manager and I have know idea what these cretins
have
concocted. I was
amazed by the fob offs saying that it was not there
problem it must be
another program which is causing it, however I was
only installing SP2
everything else worked before.

All Micro$oft want is a monopoly and do not care
about
there users and
that they may have non micro$oft software aswell on
their machine.

Well I stick two fingers up at Micro$oft and will
not
be installing
SP2 until they have a finished piece of work



.



.

Awwww, an exit speach on my behalf.
Sniffle, sniffle, I'm all choked up.

SJ
"JM" wrote in message
...
I've been reading your "posts", you contribute nothing
and are a troll. You've been fed too much. Adios

-----Original Message-----
That's your best?
Well how disappionting.
It thoht it was funny.
*YAWN*
BTW: How do you cover those tracks, again?

SJ
"JM" wrote in message
...
Isn't it past your bed time troll?? Does mommy & daddy
know you're still up on their computer? Don't forget to
cover your tracks after looking up all those porn sites
before shutting down *eg*

-----Original Message-----
Will do, Dickwad.

SJ
wrote in message
. ..
Umm Miss B*tch don't forget scanning the drive,
diskclean, turning off the screensaver, the cold boot
and
then cleaning up afterwards with the advice from this
link
http://tinyurl.com/5ynvo *eg*

-----Original Message-----
You are a moron of the highest order. You can't even
spell "I have know idea
[/sic/]" means you do because the word "know"
means "to
have knowledge of".

So, you blamed MS for the problems instead of doing
what
you should have
done and PREPARED YOUR SYSTEM(S) BEFORE
INSTALLATION!!

I hope your boss reads this and fires you on the
spot!

Fail to prepare - prepare to fail. You didn't follow
the
Six Step Plan, you
just ploughed on in and installed, didn't you?!

1) Defrag the hard drive(s)
2) Run a systemwide virus scan
3) Run a systemwide spyware scan
4) Update all your drivers
5) Update your software
6) Turn off AVP before installation.

Not MS's problem if you have no common sense! Or just
no
sense, full stop!

--
My great-grandfather was born and raised in Elgin -
did
he eventually
lose his marbles?

Wayne wrote:
I spent the night on the phone to Micro$oft for
them
to just fob me
off with almost (not our problem!) answers. They
got
me to install SP2
twice and take it off twice and yet it still does
not
work. All it
does is reboot my machine after the welcome note
comes
up, if
Micro$oft think that this is sufficient then they
should be very much
mistaken. They really do need to test these things
properly before
putting them into the population. I am now thinking
of
not even
bothering as it is more bother than it is worth. If
there is any
permenant problems which have now been caused
through
there inadequate
experienced staff, they will see a law suit hitting
their doorstep
very shortly, or they will be required to get one
of
their "very
experienced" techie guys to sort out the problem,
as
I
am an IT
manager and I have know idea what these cretins
have
concocted. I was
amazed by the fob offs saying that it was not there
problem it must be
another program which is causing it, however I was
only installing SP2
everything else worked before.

All Micro$oft want is a monopoly and do not care
about
there users and
that they may have non micro$oft software aswell on
their machine.

Well I stick two fingers up at Micro$oft and will
not
be installing
SP2 until they have a finished piece of work



.



.

If you would read the details of the tool, you would have your answer.
The tool was designed for the group that asked for the tool.
Business users that have lots of computers.

Read about the tool so you can understand before you make more
comments that show otherwise.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Steve McLaren" wrote in message
...

SNIPPED
There is no point in defending SP2 when MS has implicitly accepted
that SP2 may not be appropriate for everybody. They have issued a
tool to stop it from installing itself via auto-update mechanism.
Why would anyone spend time in developing tools just to counterits
own patch?

Wayne;
"They really do need to test these things properly"
SP-2 was possibly tested more than any other piece of software has in
the past.
Exactly what do you mean by the above statement?
How many windows XP computers in the world?
Now factor in that no two are identical.
How does Microsoft or anyone for that matter test something as big as
a Service Pack on all possible combinations?
Can not be done, impossible.

"I am an IT manager"
Really?
Then SP-2 should have had no surprises to you since your organization
has been testing SP-2 for at least several months to check for
compatibility issues.

"I am now thinking of not even bothering as it is more bother than it
is worth."
Fine, it is your computer.
But you make it sound like you are punishing Microsoft.
How is that?

"...that they may have non micro$oft software aswell on their
machine."
Nothing wrong with non Microsoft software as long as it is well
written.
For years software has been written taking advantage of what are now
vulnerabilities.
Microsoft has taken a big step and followed the demands of the IT
community to make Windows more secure.

Did you at least have a clean computer?
Was the computer ready for Windows XP?
Since your rant gave no details, it is impossible to know.

Start he
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/xpsp2.htm
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm


--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Wayne" wrote in message
om...
I spent the night on the phone to Micro$oft for them to just fob me
off with almost (not our problem!) answers. They got me to install
SP2
twice and take it off twice and yet it still does not work. All it
does is reboot my machine after the welcome note comes up, if
Micro$oft think that this is sufficient then they should be very
much
mistaken. They really do need to test these things properly before
putting them into the population. I am now thinking of not even
bothering as it is more bother than it is worth. If there is any
permenant problems which have now been caused through there
inadequate
experienced staff, they will see a law suit hitting their doorstep
very shortly, or they will be required to get one of their "very
experienced" techie guys to sort out the problem, as I am an IT
manager and I have know idea what these cretins have concocted. I
was
amazed by the fob offs saying that it was not there problem it must
be
another program which is causing it, however I was only installing
SP2
everything else worked before.

All Micro$oft want is a monopoly and do not care about there users
and
that they may have non micro$oft software aswell on their machine.

Well I stick two fingers up at Micro$oft and will not be installing
SP2 until they have a finished piece of work

"Wayne" wrote in message
om...
I spent the night on the phone to Micro$oft

Nice troll, generated 27 replies over a 4hr period :-)

"Miss Perspicacia Tick" wrote in message =
.. .
r wrote:
This maybe helpful...

How to successfully install Windows XP Service Pack 2:
http://www.fixyourwindows.com/winxpsp2install.htm

=20
No it won't be. Now will you quit spamming! I Maybe if I report you to =
your=20
ISP enough times they might just take some action! OK, if they're like =
most=20
ISPs they probably won't, but I can but hope!
=20

Why is this spamming? Many MVPs, or other frequenting experts here seem =
to simply give a link to their respective sites for advice, without =
giving anything in any real detail here. Would that not be spamming =
also, using your logic?

By the way, what the hell is "I Maybe if " supposed to mean?

"Wayne" wrote in message
om...
I spent the night on the phone to Micro$oft for them to just fob me
off with almost (not our problem!) answers. They got me to install SP2
twice and take it off twice and yet it still does not work. All it
does is reboot my machine after the welcome note comes up, if
Micro$oft think that this is sufficient then they should be very much
mistaken. They really do need to test these things properly before
putting them into the population. I am now thinking of not even

Worked perfectly fine on the XP machines I have updated.

I think that if that is the way you see it, you'd be better off calling
someone in to fix it for you.