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"Ken Blake" wrote in message ... I say what I believe to be correct, regardless of what Microsoft says. In some cases, it's the same as what Microsoft says, in others it's not. As a single example, I've several times said here that I think WordPerfect is a better word processor than Microsoft Word. [snip] But I won't argue with you about it. It's your computer, and you are free to install or not install whatever you want. I'll admit, you sound better than Jones on this. I get the impression that he feels he has a need to be right. |
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John R. Sellers gathered his thoughts and came up with these words: "Tom" wrote in message ... Not true, MVPs get perks from MS, like free (expensive) software. There is an incentive, and I don't think any one MVP here is altruistic enough to turn down anything from MS, in lieu of voluntary services given. So they get free what we pay for. Oh yeah, that's fair. If you weren't so danged ready to try and point fingers, maybe you could count the number of posts by these terrible people who spend an enormous amount of their free time trying to help people with the problems. For the life of me, I don't know why some of them do it and have to deal with the ignorant few who are always trying to drag them through the mud. -- Ron Bogart {} τΏτ¬ Associate Expert Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone "Life is what happens while we are making other plans." |
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"Ron Bogart" wrote in message ... If you weren't so danged ready to try and point fingers, maybe you could count the number of posts by these terrible people who spend an enormous amount of their free time trying to help people with the problems. For the life of me, I don't know why some of them do it and have to deal with the ignorant few who are always trying to drag them through the mud. I'm not trying to drag anybody down, I simply wanna know why the MVPs in here get free software worth hundreds of dollars just for answering a few questions, and the rest of us have to shell out our hard-earned money for the same software. |
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Ron Bogart wrote:
If you weren't so danged ready to try and point fingers, maybe you could count the number of posts by these terrible people who spend an enormous amount of their free time trying to help people with the problems. For the life of me, I don't know why some of them do it and have to deal with the ignorant few who are always trying to drag them through the mud. I have said before, but will repeat. If I set what I receive from Microsoft against what would be a reasonable charge for what I do at consultancy rates, the term "peanuts" comes to mind -- Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies) Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit) |
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John R. Sellers wrote:
I'm not trying to drag anybody down, I simply wanna know why the MVPs in here get free software worth hundreds of dollars just for answering a few questions, It's more than a few, here is a couple of Google newsgroup searches for past year activity for: Torgeir Bakken, involved in about 16,200 threads http://groups.google.com/groups?safe...=d&lr=&hl=e n Alex Nichol, involved in about 23,900 threads http://groups.google.com/groups?safe...ng=d&lr=&hl=en Jupiter Jones, involved in about 23,800 threads http://groups.google.com/groups?safe...ng=d&lr=&hl=en and the rest of us have to shell out our hard-earned money for the same software. Actually, strictly speaking, it is not the same software. MSDN software is for development, test, and demonstration purposes only, you are not supposed to use the software for day-to-day operations (personal or general business use). The only exception from the rule is Microsoft Office. More he http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscripti...aspx#licensing -- torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of the 1328 page Scripting Guide: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scr...r/default.mspx |
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OMG......boy did we get off the topic!!! I just have one more question
before I DO install SP2. Is it going to mess up my wireless network?? I finally got my computer cleaned from that MidAdle and Peper Trojan. I am going to go take care of all the necessary steps before installing it but being that I am hooked up via Verizon DSL modem connected to a microsoft wireless router with 2 X box live adapters and a LynkSys adapter, I want to make sure I will be able to get on-line once i install it. Is there any precautions I should take regarding my connection?? Thanx again......Patty "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message ... Definitely resolve all issues first. Pre-existing problems known and unknown cause a lot of SP-2 issues. -- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/ "jt3" wrote in message ... I haven't installed SP2 yet, but it is only because I'm still fighting problems with the CPU on my new machine, and it's usually sound advice to avoid complication where a problem already exists. I plan to, however, when the problem is resolved--a large number of the fixes involved help cut down on further attacks on everyone else's machine, so one does it at least partly as a responsibility, seems to me. |
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Quite the contrary - Service Pack has better/easier support for Wireless
Networks. You'll find a new dedicated Wireless setup applet in Control Panel. "Patty" wrote in message ... OMG......boy did we get off the topic!!! I just have one more question before I DO install SP2. Is it going to mess up my wireless network?? I finally got my computer cleaned from that MidAdle and Peper Trojan. I am going to go take care of all the necessary steps before installing it but being that I am hooked up via Verizon DSL modem connected to a microsoft wireless router with 2 X box live adapters and a LynkSys adapter, I want to make sure I will be able to get on-line once i install it. Is there any precautions I should take regarding my connection?? Thanx again......Patty "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message ... Definitely resolve all issues first. Pre-existing problems known and unknown cause a lot of SP-2 issues. -- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/ "jt3" wrote in message ... I haven't installed SP2 yet, but it is only because I'm still fighting problems with the CPU on my new machine, and it's usually sound advice to avoid complication where a problem already exists. I plan to, however, when the problem is resolved--a large number of the fixes involved help cut down on further attacks on everyone else's machine, so one does it at least partly as a responsibility, seems to me. |
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John;
To add a little to what Torgeir stated. Many MVPs, myself included, use the software in direct support of the volunteering we do here and other forums. There is no requirement at all from Microsoft to do such. But having the additional software often gives us an opportunity to test for a problem on a combination otherwise unavailable. In my case some is on removable hard drives I pull out specifically for that purpose. So you might say that because of that I have additional costs to maintain the additional hardware I otherwise would not have. No one helped me at all with the additional hardware. People volunteer on these newsgroups and other forums. Microsoft thanks some people with software. The software often comes back in direct support of the people here. It seems everyone benefits. -- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/ "John R. Sellers" wrote in message news:G6WdnX3EZJTDdsXcRVn- I'm not trying to drag anybody down, I simply wanna know why the MVPs in here get free software worth hundreds of dollars just for answering a few questions, and the rest of us have to shell out our hard-earned money for the same software. |
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