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Windows XP Malicious Updates
Just for the record, I installed the latest 5 malicious updates,
which did their usual trick of switching ON the monitoring of my external USB disc from my setting of OFF. I don't suppose they'll ever learn how to install updates properly. James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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Windows XP Malicious Updates
From: "James Silverton"
| Just for the record, I installed the latest 5 malicious updates, | which did their usual trick of switching ON the monitoring of my | external USB disc from my setting of OFF. I don't suppose | they'll ever learn how to install updates properly. | | James Silverton | Potomac, Maryland | | E-mail, with obvious alterations: | not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not If you are talking about the Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool (MRT) you do NOT know what you are talking about. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm |
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Windows XP Malicious Updates
"James Silverton" wrote in message ... Just for the record, I installed the latest 5 malicious updates, which did their usual trick of switching ON the monitoring of my external USB disc from my setting of OFF. I don't suppose they'll ever learn how to install updates properly. James Silverton Potomac, Maryland I installed all updates, with no ill effect to the "monitoring" (assuming you mean System Restore) status of my USB HD. All remain "Turned Off." There must be something screwy with your system, as I've NEVER had the problem you speak of... |
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Windows XP Malicious Updates
"FeMaster" FeMaster @ hotmail . com wrote in message
news "James Silverton" wrote in message ... Just for the record, I installed the latest 5 malicious updates, which did their usual trick of switching ON the monitoring of my external USB disc from my setting of OFF. I don't suppose they'll ever learn how to install updates properly. James Silverton Potomac, Maryland I installed all updates, with no ill effect to the "monitoring" (assuming you mean System Restore) status of my USB HD. All remain "Turned Off." There must be something screwy with your system, as I've NEVER had the problem you speak of... Perhaps I needed to be a little more explicit about "monitoring" but the only Windows system use of the word (that I know of) is in the Restore settings and those are what I was talking about. My updating settings are to allow download but to choose when to install. My normal settings for restore monitoring are to only turn it ON for the system disc, in this case D: and OFF for all other discs or partitions. Anyway, if there is a solution to my problems with updating I'd like to track it down. As long as I remember, when I allowed the installation of updates, a number of large temporary files were written to the last named disc, in my case the external USB disc G:. If a reboot was needed it invariably failed, perhaps by attempting to use those files. My BIOS does *not* have booting from an external USB disc as an option.The only solution to the problem that I have been able to find is to demount the USB disc before allowing installation. The reboot reconnects the USB disc but turns the Restore monitoring status of the disc to ON. That's why I think of the updating process as "malicious", to use Microsoft's word :-) If there is some setting that needs changing, I'd certainly like know about it or perhaps get a pointer to information on the subject. I have mentioned this problem in the past but this is the first time I have had any responses. Thanks in advance, James Silverton Potomac, Maryland |
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Windows XP Malicious Updates
James Silverton wrote:
Just for the record, I installed the latest 5 malicious updates, which did their usual trick of switching ON the monitoring of my external USB disc from my setting of OFF. I don't suppose they'll ever learn how to install updates properly. James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not Just for the record still, they must be singling you out because they aren't doing that to me or anyone else I know of or have ever heard of. I know fer sure it can't possibly be that you don't know what you're talking about, so it must mean you've been singled out for special treatment. At least this is one thread I don't need to read any further on. Pop` -- -- Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it. Tolstoy |
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Windows XP Malicious Updates
Poprivet wrote on Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:11:25 -0400:
P James Silverton wrote: ?? Just for the record, I installed the latest 5 malicious ?? updates, which did their usual trick of switching ON the ?? monitoring of my external USB disc from my setting of OFF. ?? I don't suppose they'll ever learn how to install updates ?? properly. ?? ?? James Silverton ?? Potomac, Maryland ?? ?? E-mail, with obvious alterations: ?? not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not P Just for the record still, they must be singling you out P because they aren't doing that to me or anyone else I know P of or have ever heard of. I know fer sure it can't possibly P be that you don't know what you're talking about, so it must P mean you've been singled out for special treatment. P At least this is one thread I don't need to read any further P on. Quite possibly, but it might be useful and helpful to me if you *would* read my later post about the details! James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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Windows XP Malicious Updates
From: "James Silverton"
| | Quite possibly, but it might be useful and helpful to me if you | *would* read my later post about the details! | | James Silverton | Potomac, Maryland | | E-mail, with obvious alterations: | not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not Later post ? If it had to do with the subject matter of the thread YOU created then that information should have been posted in this thread, not somewhere else. Interestgly, I can't find another post. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm |
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David wrote to James Silverton on Thu, 14 Jun 2007
19:52:05 -0400: ??| Quite possibly, but it might be useful and helpful to me ??| if you *would* read my later post about the details! ??| ??| James Silverton ??| Potomac, Maryland ??| ??| E-mail, with obvious alterations: ??| not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not DHL Later post ? DHL If it had to do with the subject matter of the thread YOU DHL created then that information should have been posted in DHL this thread, not somewhere else. DHL Interestgly, I can't find another post. Hi! Under "Widows XP Malicious Updates", my first post was on 6/13/07 and there were two more on 6/14/07. The one with my time of 11:25 AM gives the details of my usual problems with updates. That is not the one that I think you are responding to. Best wishes! James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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Windows XP Malicious Updates
From: "James Silverton"
.. | | Hi! Under "Widows XP Malicious Updates", my first post was on | 6/13/07 and there were two more on 6/14/07. The one with my time | of 11:25 AM gives the details of my usual problems with updates. | That is not the one that I think you are responding to. | | Best wishes! | | James Silverton | Potomac, Maryland | | E-mail, with obvious alterations: | not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not Interestinly NO post was found on the Microsoft News Server ( msnews.microsoft.com ) and I must assume that the content filter got the post or was summarily removed for some unknown reason because I DID find said post on the Verizon News Server ( news.verizon.net ). As far as I can tell is that you posted on the MS News server. Hmmmmmmmmmmm...... Anyway the following was what I found on the Verizon News Server. ( I hope this post won't now get caught by the Microsoft centent filter )... | Perhaps I needed to be a little more explicit about "monitoring" | but the only Windows system use of the word (that I know of) is | in the Restore settings and those are what I was talking about. | My updating settings are to allow download but to choose when to | install. My normal settings for restore monitoring are to only | turn it ON for the system disc, in this case D: and OFF for all | other discs or partitions. | | Anyway, if there is a solution to my problems with updating I'd | like to track it down. As long as I remember, when I allowed the | installation of updates, a number of large temporary files were | written to the last named disc, in my case the external USB disc | G:. If a reboot was needed it invariably failed, perhaps by | attempting to use those files. My BIOS does *not* have booting | from an external USB disc as an option.The only solution to the | problem that I have been able to find is to demount the USB disc | before allowing installation. The reboot reconnects the USB disc | but turns the Restore monitoring status of the disc to ON. | That's why I think of the updating process as "malicious", to | use Microsoft's word :-) | | If there is some setting that needs changing, I'd certainly like | know about it or perhaps get a pointer to information on the | subject. I have mentioned this problem in the past but this is | the first time I have had any responses. | | Thanks in advance, | | James Silverton | Potomac, Maryland OK. Your terminology is way off and your original post lacked facts. There is nothing "malicious" about the updating process. Microsoft does use the drive with the MOST free space as the location to temporarily store and execute Windows Updates. For one thing WinXP does NOT support loading the OS from a USB Flash drive. I suggest you do NOT tweak the settings for the System Restore cache other than the capacity of the cache. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm |
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Windows XP Malicious Updates
David wrote to James Silverton on Thu, 14 Jun 2007
20:54:07 -0400: DHL . ??| ??| Hi! Under "Widows XP Malicious Updates", my first post was ??| on 6/13/07 and there were two more on 6/14/07. The one ??| with my time of 11:25 AM gives the details of my usual ??| problems with updates. That is not the one that I think ??| you are responding to. ??| ??| Best wishes! ??| ??| James Silverton ??| Potomac, Maryland ??| DHL OK. Your terminology is way off and your original post DHL lacked facts. There is nothing "malicious" about the DHL updating process. Microsoft has not patented the word "malicious" and, IMHO, that's just what the process is! :-) At very least, despite attempting for months to get some sort of response, "malicious" did it! In previous posts I had given more details. DHL Microsoft does use the drive with the MOST free space as DHL the location to temporarily store and execute Windows DHL Updates. As it does not seem to able to do that, it is probably the source of the problem. DHL For one thing WinXP does NOT support loading the OS from a DHL USB Flash drive. DHL I suggest you do NOT tweak the settings for the System DHL Restore cache other than the capacity of the cache. I'd be grateful if you could expand the last statement since I do not understand the role of the cache in this updating process nor was I aware that I had changed the system in any way.. The external disc is not a flash drive but an 80meg USB disc that is my backup device and there are also 104 meg of free space in the D: (system) partition. My current method for applying updates is to demount the external USB, using the Windows "safely remove hardware" process, apply the updates, reboot and turn off the monitoring of the external disc that invariably is set. Tedious but it does work. James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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Windows XP Malicious Updates
From: "James Silverton"
| David wrote to James Silverton on Thu, 14 Jun 2007 | 20:54:07 -0400: | DHL . ??| ??| Hi! Under "Widows XP Malicious Updates", my first post was ??| on 6/13/07 and there were two more on 6/14/07. The one ??| with my time of 11:25 AM gives the details of my usual ??| problems with updates. That is not the one that I think ??| you are responding to. ??| ??| Best wishes! ??| ??| James Silverton ??| Potomac, Maryland ??| DHL OK. Your terminology is way off and your original post DHL lacked facts. There is nothing "malicious" about the DHL updating process. | | Microsoft has not patented the word "malicious" and, IMHO, | that's just what the process is! :-) At very least, despite | attempting for months to get some sort of response, "malicious" | did it! In previous posts I had given more details. | DHL Microsoft does use the drive with the MOST free space as DHL the location to temporarily store and execute Windows DHL Updates. | | As it does not seem to able to do that, it is probably the | source of the problem. | DHL For one thing WinXP does NOT support loading the OS from a DHL USB Flash drive. | DHL I suggest you do NOT tweak the settings for the System DHL Restore cache other than the capacity of the cache. | | I'd be grateful if you could expand the last statement since I | do not understand the role of the cache in this updating process | nor was I aware that I had changed the system in any way.. The | external disc is not a flash drive but an 80meg USB disc that is | my backup device and there are also 104 meg of free space in the | D: (system) partition. | | My current method for applying updates is to demount the | external USB, using the Windows "safely remove hardware" | process, apply the updates, reboot and turn off the monitoring | of the external disc that invariably is set. Tedious but it does | work. | | James Silverton | Potomac, Maryland | | E-mail, with obvious alterations: | not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not Malicious has a fixed context. MAL - bad. This to be malicious it has to be a process whose intent confers a deliberate negative consequence. The term malicious is inappropriate. The Windows Update process in itself is the the exact opposite of malicious. It is positive in the fact it is designed to take a sytem known to have insecurities and attempt to make it more secure. Making a system safer and more secuire can NOT be seemed malicious. OK. So the drive is a mechanical hard disk in an enclosure that uses USB as an interface to the PC. It may not be a Flash Drive but for the sense of this discussion, it makes no difference. I reread your original post. I now see based upon your replies adn the increased ingformation that your original post was very bad. You inferred that you received 5 new Windows Updates and you called these updates malicious. In no way were they malicious and you assumed that someone would read you post and think the way you did. Sorry, no. I also don't understand your problem in the original post nor your replies. Many people use external drives and install Windows Updates with no sequalae. I don't understand why you should have a problem. BTW: I do applaud your use of Fidolook although I suggest you update it. The latest version of Fidolook is... FL-Build: Fidolook 2006 Xmas Edition (HL) 6.0.2800.95 - 10/2/2007 21:04:35 -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm |
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Windows XP Malicious Updates
David wrote to James Silverton on Thu, 14 Jun 2007
22:37:12 -0400: ??| David wrote to James Silverton on Thu, 14 Jun 2007 ??| 20:54:07 -0400: ??| DHL I also don't understand your problem in the original post DHL nor your replies. Many people use external drives and DHL install Windows Updates with no sequalae. I don't DHL understand why you should have a problem. DHL BTW: I do applaud your use of Fidolook although I suggest DHL you update it. The latest version of Fidolook is... DHL FL-Build: Fidolook 2006 Xmas Edition (HL) 6.0.2800.95 - 10/2/2007 DHL 21:04:35 Thanks for the pointer to the new version of FidoLook! i suppose that the old saying "Never attribute to malice what can blamed on stupidity" applies but I promise not to say anything more about MS and malice [tho' muttering away quietly about arrogation of words:-) ] The word did its job in evoking a response but no-one has suggested yet what could make my system different! I wonder if someone can tell me where to look for information? I did numerous Google searches in the past but without result. The fact that others succeed is not particularly helpful. I was pretty well convinced that Windows was trying to use the large binary files in the reboot process and I wonder why it would write them to the external disc if it can't use them? James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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Windows XP "Malicious" Updates
David wrote to James Silverton on Thu, 14 Jun 2007
22:37:12 -0400: DHL BTW: I do applaud your use of Fidolook although I suggest DHL you update it. The latest version of Fidolook is... DHL FL-Build: Fidolook 2006 Xmas Edition (HL) 6.0.2800.95 - 10/2/2007 DHL 21:04:35 Can you tell me how to get that download please? I don't seem to be able to find it at http://www.fidolook.org/ James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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Windows XP "Malicious" Updates
From: "James Silverton"
| | Can you tell me how to get that download please? I don't seem to | be able to find it at http://www.fidolook.org/ | | James Silverton | Potomac, Maryland | | E-mail, with obvious alterations: | not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not http://www.fidolook.org/download.php?get=fl_beta_sfx -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm |
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David wrote to James Silverton on Fri, 15 Jun 2007
17:31:01 -0400: ??| Can you tell me how to get that download please? I don't ??| seem to be able to find it at http://www.fidolook.org/ ??| ??| James Silverton ??| Potomac, Maryland ??| ??| E-mail, with obvious alterations: ??| not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not DHL http://www.fidolook.org/download.php?get=fl_beta_sfx Thank you again. I think I have installed it successfully. Again, another possibly stupid question, but where can I find out about the newer features? James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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