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Old July 10th 16, 04:12 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Jason
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Win 10 has dispensed with the systray Safely Remove icon in favor of a
right-click Eject action. The trouble is.. I have an external HDD and it
does not show up as ejectable. If I simply yank power, Windows logs
grievous-looking errors about incomplete disk transactions. I use the
drive for a second copy of image backups. For now, I've been unhooking it
after I shut down the system, but that's not a real solution.

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Old July 10th 16, 04:54 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Good Guy[_2_]
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On 10/07/2016 04:12, Jason wrote:
Win 10 has dispensed with the systray Safely Remove icon in favor of a
right-click Eject action. The trouble is.. I have an external HDD and it
does not show up as ejectable. If I simply yank power, Windows logs
grievous-looking errors about incomplete disk transactions. I use the
drive for a second copy of image backups. For now, I've been unhooking it
after I shut down the system, but that's not a real solution.


Where the hell did you get this crap from? Windows 10 is almost
identical to any of its predecessors starting XP so you are just
confirming what we have been telling you all along; You are completely
stupid and unlikely to educate yourself in the near term:

Right-Click
http://content.screencast.com/users/JT19560819/folders/Jing/media/2f8027a2-8834-4d24-b566-53bbdc6b9dc2/2016-07-10_0450.png

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Old July 10th 16, 05:03 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Good Guy[_2_]
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On 10/07/2016 04:12, Jason wrote:
Win 10 has dispensed with the systray Safely Remove icon in favor of a
right-click Eject action. The trouble is.. I have an external HDD and it
does not show up as ejectable. If I simply yank power, Windows logs
grievous-looking errors about incomplete disk transactions. I use the
drive for a second copy of image backups. For now, I've been unhooking it
after I shut down the system, but that's not a real solution.


The other thing what most intelligent people do is to launch the File
Explorer or Windows Explorer (don't confuse this with Internet Explorer)
and look for what is attached on their PC as shown in this pictu

This PC
http://content.screencast.com/users/JT19560819/folders/Jing/media/a8e0aa62-d546-47e0-89db-a1034eca7e7b/2016-07-10_0459.png


Now it is just a question of right-clicking on what is needed to be
ejected. Simple don't you think so? Or is this also too difficult for you?



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Old July 10th 16, 06:25 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Maurice Helwig
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On 10/07/2016 1:12 PM, Jason wrote:
Win 10 has dispensed with the systray Safely Remove icon in favor of a
right-click Eject action. The trouble is.. I have an external HDD and it
does not show up as ejectable. If I simply yank power, Windows logs
grievous-looking errors about incomplete disk transactions. I use the
drive for a second copy of image backups. For now, I've been unhooking it
after I shut down the system, but that's not a real solution.

Try USB Disk Ejector -- found here

http://quickandeasysoftware.net/soft...b-disk-ejector

Works for me on win 7 64 bit
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Old July 10th 16, 10:01 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Davidm
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On Sat, 9 Jul 2016 23:12:34 -0400, Jason
wrote:

Win 10 has dispensed with the systray Safely Remove icon in favor of a
right-click Eject action. The trouble is.. I have an external HDD and it
does not show up as ejectable. If I simply yank power, Windows logs
grievous-looking errors about incomplete disk transactions. I use the
drive for a second copy of image backups. For now, I've been unhooking it
after I shut down the system, but that's not a real solution.

Well I've got the "Safely Remove Hardware and Eject Media" in my
systray after upgrading from W7 Pro last week. Are you sure that yours
isn't in the hidden bit of the systray - click the up arrow to the
left of the systray. You can drag and drop most icons between the
visible and hidden bits.
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Old July 10th 16, 12:14 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Keith Nuttle
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On 7/10/2016 5:01 AM, Davidm wrote:
On Sat, 9 Jul 2016 23:12:34 -0400, Jason
wrote:

Win 10 has dispensed with the systray Safely Remove icon in favor of a
right-click Eject action. The trouble is.. I have an external HDD and it
does not show up as ejectable. If I simply yank power, Windows logs
grievous-looking errors about incomplete disk transactions. I use the
drive for a second copy of image backups. For now, I've been unhooking it
after I shut down the system, but that's not a real solution.

Well I've got the "Safely Remove Hardware and Eject Media" in my
systray after upgrading from W7 Pro last week. Are you sure that yours
isn't in the hidden bit of the systray - click the up arrow to the
left of the systray. You can drag and drop most icons between the
visible and hidden bits.

To change the icons in the Systray of Windows 10, click the
notifications Icon in the Systray. Selecte System Display,
notifications, ,,,,. Select Notifications and Actions.

Finally click the line Turn System Icons on or off Select those icons yo
want.
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Old July 10th 16, 04:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Jason
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On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 07:14:05 -0400 "Keith Nuttle"
wrote in article nltam2$1p0d$1
@gioia.aioe.org
To change the icons in the Systray of Windows 10, click the
notifications Icon in the Systray. Selecte System Display,
notifications, ,,,,. Select Notifications and Actions.

Finally click the line Turn System Icons on or off Select those icons yo
want.



There is no notification icon in the Systray
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Old July 10th 16, 05:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul
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Jason wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 07:14:05 -0400 "Keith Nuttle"
wrote in article nltam2$1p0d$1
@gioia.aioe.org
To change the icons in the Systray of Windows 10, click the
notifications Icon in the Systray. Selecte System Display,
notifications, ,,,,. Select Notifications and Actions.

Finally click the line Turn System Icons on or off Select those icons yo
want.



There is no notification icon in the Systray


Sift through your collection of USB sticks.
Find an older one with the proper RMB bit status.
Then you can verify your icon.

http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbstick_e.html

"Removable or what?"
--------------------

"Even USB pen drives have no removable media they
pretend to have by having the removable media bit (RMB)
set in their hardware device descriptor.

Strictly spoken this is just wrong but in fact
nearly all USB flash drives have the RMB set
while USB hard disks have not.

Appearing as removable or local drive makes a
difference under Windows. Here [are] the differences
for XP up to Windows 10:"

Try testing with a small USB flash stick, one with RMB,
and see if the icon appears. While the icon can be
fiddled with the Notification controls, that's probably
not the problem. And if absolutely no icons appear
in the tray, it's possible for Notification stuff
to be completely broken.

USB devices can fail to remove if there is a busy file.

A USB disk can absolutely refuse to eject, if NTFS
TXF (transactional NTFS) is running on the drive. It's
not clear why it happens. I've seen writes for transactional
happening, while I'm running backups (it causes excessive
head movement on a HDD, and you can hear it). The way to
work around this issue, of stopping TXF transactions
or open handles, is to go to Disk Management, click
the left-most block, and select "Offline". When you
put a disk offline, that can prepare it for removal.
(That fixes TXF but not a busy file necessarily.)
However, when you next plug the device in, you have
to put it "online" again. Something that I and others
forget to do :-)

But TXF doesn't affect the icon. That's an RMB issue,
and a matter of how a drive is declared. TXF is just
a source of annoyance at eject or Safely Remove time.

On SATA drives, the feature is called Hotplug, and
is available in AHCI. Notice how, in Windows 10,
the hotplug materials are less obvious and aren't
hanging around in Safely Remove like they used to.
As far as I can remember, Hotplug is enabled on
all the ports in my BIOS, so I really should be
seeing more "removable" SATA drives.

Paul
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Old July 10th 16, 05:56 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Good Guy[_2_]
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On 10/07/2016 04:12, Jason wrote:
For now, I've been unhooking it
after I shut down the system, but that's not a real solution.


Only people with pea sized brains would shutdown the system when
_/*logging*/_ off from the account is all that is necessary to ensure
all background services are switched off.

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Old July 10th 16, 10:16 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Jason
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In article ,
says...
Try USB Disk Ejector -- found here

http://quickandeasysoftware.net/soft...b-disk-ejector

Works for me on win 7 64 bit
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Thanks, I'll try it!
 




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