Why are adblockers detectable?

On Fri, 08 Jul 2016 06:49:49 +0100, Big Bad Bob wrote:

On 07/07/16 13:09, James Wilkinson so wittily quipped:
On Thu, 07 Jul 2016 19:25:52 +0100, Big Bad Bob
wrote:

On 07/06/16 08:44, James Wilkinson so wittily quipped:
Why are adblockers detectable? Surely an adblocker should still request
the advert and download it, but just not display it. Then the server
wouldn't be any the wiser.


most of these seem to detect NOT running their ****ed-up tracking
scripts, from what I can tell. So 'NoScript' plugin shows up as an "ad
blocker", which, in many respects, IS true. [it's also a MALWARE
blocker, FLASH blocker, NOISE blocker, ...]

When they pop up and say "you're using an adblocker", there should be
buttons marked "go **** yourself", "I won't use your page then", and "I
can get the content elsewhere you ****ing tosser".


hey, that's a GREAT idea - let's build it into the W3C standard!

There's still a standard?

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On Fri, 08 Jul 2016 06:48:45 +0100, Big Bad Bob wrote:

On 07/07/16 13:08, James Wilkinson so wittily quipped:
On Thu, 07 Jul 2016 19:27:57 +0100, Big Bad Bob
wrote:

On 07/06/16 09:38, mike so wittily quipped:
On 7/6/2016 9:23 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jul 2016 16:44:59 +0100, "James Wilkinson"
wrote:

Why are adblockers detectable?

Because they request all of the page content except for the ads.

Surely an adblocker should still request the advert and download it,
but just not display it. Then the server wouldn't be any the wiser.

Agreed. I've made that point myself in the recent past. I assume they
weren't initially designed that way because no one thought it would
be a
problem. The game of cat and mouse, however, is starting to prove
otherwise.

problem with downloading is that it takes time and consumes your metered
data. Ad pictures and video can be WAY bigger than the text
you're trying to read.

not to mention all of that ****ED UP SCRIPTING hosted on CDNs, probably
re-loading EVERY! GOD! DAMNED! TIME! you get hit up with their ****ING
AD.

the script is 10 times the content, in many cases. 300k for jquery?
WHAT A LOAD OF ****!

I don't notice 300K on an unlimited 54Mbit fibre line.


wow, you are SO superior to the rest of us who have limited bandwidth,
bandwidth caps, and/or overage charges! /sarcasm

No, most of the UK is superior. WTF is wrong with you backward folk over the pond?

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If it comes out of theground easily, it is a valuable plant.

On Fri, 08 Jul 2016 06:48:45 +0100, Big Bad Bob wrote:

On 07/07/16 13:08, James Wilkinson so wittily quipped:
On Thu, 07 Jul 2016 19:27:57 +0100, Big Bad Bob
wrote:

On 07/06/16 09:38, mike so wittily quipped:
On 7/6/2016 9:23 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jul 2016 16:44:59 +0100, "James Wilkinson"
wrote:

Why are adblockers detectable?

Because they request all of the page content except for the ads.

Surely an adblocker should still request the advert and download it,
but just not display it. Then the server wouldn't be any the wiser.

Agreed. I've made that point myself in the recent past. I assume they
weren't initially designed that way because no one thought it would
be a
problem. The game of cat and mouse, however, is starting to prove
otherwise.

problem with downloading is that it takes time and consumes your metered
data. Ad pictures and video can be WAY bigger than the text
you're trying to read.

not to mention all of that ****ED UP SCRIPTING hosted on CDNs, probably
re-loading EVERY! GOD! DAMNED! TIME! you get hit up with their ****ING
AD.

the script is 10 times the content, in many cases. 300k for jquery?
WHAT A LOAD OF ****!

I don't notice 300K on an unlimited 54Mbit fibre line.


wow, you are SO superior to the rest of us who have limited bandwidth,
bandwidth caps, and/or overage charges! /sarcasm

No, most of the UK is superior. WTF is wrong with you backward folk over the pond?

--
Gardening Rule:
When weeding, the best way to make sure you are removing a weed and not a valuable plant is to pull on it.
If it comes out of theground easily, it is a valuable plant.