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Still locked out of gmail from client app
On 2020-04-03 9:37 a.m., 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
On 03/04/2020 04:27, Carlos E.R. wrote: On 03/04/2020 05.19, actodesco wrote: On 3/25/2020 6:27 PM, Art Todesco wrote: I'm still locked out of gmail from TBird.Â* I really don't get it.Â* So today, I uninstalled TBird, downloaded a fresh TBird and, even though I erased all of my passwords in TBird, it never askes for a password. Weird!Â* I was going to enable OAuth2 but, as I said, it never askes for a password or key.Â* Any ideas? An update on my problem.Â* As I said previously, I have 4 PCs at home that are having the same problems.Â* I can't use client based email programs, namely Thunderbird, but I also tried the W10 Email client program, with similar results.Â* I called Frontier, my provider and of course, it was not their problem.Â* Yesterday I took my laptop to my church, where they have a different provider with a fiber directly to the building.Â* I turned on the laptop, opened Thunderbird and it immediately started accessing all of my gmails from 2 different accounts.Â* I was also able to send emails.Â* Talking to the Frontier techs, they continued to blame Thunderbird.Â* I told them they were not listening to me as it worked on another ISP's service and I also had the same problem on W10 email client.Â* After many dropped calls and false starts, they were going to bump it to the next tier, but it could take up to 72 hours.Â* I don't believe it will happen without me squawking again.Â* But, today I took my laptop to a friend's house that is close by, which also uses Frontier, but on a different remote.Â* Thunderbird again worked perfectly.Â* So, it looks to me like the problem is in my remote, DSLM.Â* I'm going to try going to a neighbor's house, who is on the same remote as me, and see what happens.Â* No wonder Frontier has filed for some type of bankruptsy protection!Â* More later, as it happens. Did you try rebooting your router? Just power cycle it. No,Â* he decided to let Jesus Christ solve this for him. He is indeed almighty and all-knowing but Christ prefers to teach people how to fish rather than provide them with said fish. Is that OK with you?Â* Did you know that you are likely to be next for that Chinese Virus infection.Â* All Spanish and Columbian drug dealers have been given a tentative date for this!!. I thank you for calling it what it is: the Chinese Virus. Every nickname they've used so far has erased the fact that the world is currently contaminated because they refused to reveal their data or even do anything about the virus. As such, whether they somehow consider it racist or not, this virus should go down in history with the appropriate "Chinese virus" name. |
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Rabid Roach wrote:
(just joined Usenet yesterday) Silver Slimer, is that you ? :-) Just wondering. Paul |
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On 4/2/2020 11:27 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 03/04/2020 05.19, actodesco wrote: On 3/25/2020 6:27 PM, Art Todesco wrote: I'm still locked out of gmail from TBird.Â* I really don't get it.Â* So today, I uninstalled TBird, downloaded a fresh TBird and, even though I erased all of my passwords in TBird, it never askes for a password. Weird!Â* I was going to enable OAuth2 but, as I said, it never askes for a password or key.Â* Any ideas? An update on my problem.Â* As I said previously, I have 4 PCs at home that are having the same problems.Â* I can't use client based email programs, namely Thunderbird, but I also tried the W10 Email client program, with similar results.Â* I called Frontier, my provider and of course, it was not their problem.Â* Yesterday I took my laptop to my church, where they have a different provider with a fiber directly to the building.Â* I turned on the laptop, opened Thunderbird and it immediately started accessing all of my gmails from 2 different accounts.Â* I was also able to send emails.Â* Talking to the Frontier techs, they continued to blame Thunderbird.Â* I told them they were not listening to me as it worked on another ISP's service and I also had the same problem on W10 email client.Â* After many dropped calls and false starts, they were going to bump it to the next tier, but it could take up to 72 hours.Â* I don't believe it will happen without me squawking again.Â* But, today I took my laptop to a friend's house that is close by, which also uses Frontier, but on a different remote. Thunderbird again worked perfectly.Â* So, it looks to me like the problem is in my remote, DSLM.Â* I'm going to try going to a neighbor's house, who is on the same remote as me, and see what happens.Â* No wonder Frontier has filed for some type of bankruptsy protection! More later, as it happens. Did you try rebooting your router? Just power cycle it. With my ISP I usually HAVE to re-boot my modem/router every few days. When you can't connect on the internet, you look at the modem, ah, red light, power down, count to 5 and then repower. |
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On 03/04/2020 19:24, actodesco wrote:
With my ISP I usually HAVE to re-boot my modem/router every few days. When you can't connect on the internet, you look at the modem, ah, red light, power down, count to 5 and then repower. Did you try pinging? At cmd prompt type: ping smtp.gmail.com This command does not rely on your email client's configuration. you should get something like this: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Just change your ISP and also give them a mouthful of expletives in your christian ways. -- With over 1.2 billion devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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In article , actodesco
wrote: With my ISP I usually HAVE to re-boot my modem/router every few days. When you can't connect on the internet, you look at the modem, ah, red light, power down, count to 5 and then repower. that is not normal and sounds like a defective modem/router. ask for a replacement. |
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actodesco wrote:
On 4/2/2020 11:27 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: Did you try rebooting your router? Just power cycle it. With my ISP I usually HAVE to re-boot my modem/router every few days. When you can't connect on the internet, you look at the modem, ah, red light, power down, count to 5 and then repower. You're not going to believe this, but I've had three incidents where a lack of performance on phone wires was caused by conditions *inside* the house. I know that Frontier has a reputation for "sucking" in some locales, so we have to consider that. The last time I had ADSL trouble, it was a noise-on-mains problem. Electrical noise on the 115VAC house wiring, could knock out the modem and cause the red light to come on. It used to happen at 9PM, when the SNR is the poorest. 1) I had an old CRT TV set operating. This is back just before NTSC over-the-air transmissions were shut down. I look at the TV set, and I notice a "herringbone" pattern overlaid on the TV picture. I didn't make too much of this observation at the time. 2) I get the red light on the modem. 3) I go around the room, looking for stuff to shut off. I turn off my second PC... and the herringbone pattern disappears. As well, the modem stops acting up. No more red light. 4) I replaced the ATX supply on my second PC. No more herringbone pattern. No more loss of sync and red light. The ATX supply has a pair of switching transistors on the front end. Some fault in that part of the circuit, caused noise to go back through the PSU line filter and into the mains. And that's where the herringbone pattern came from. I could see no visibly defective components inside (and since I hate high voltage, I'm not sticking my hands in there when its hot). With modern digital TV sets (LCD screen) there's a good chance you'll never see that. But an old analog set with the CRT picture tube, the "noise-on-mains" goes through all the HV power supply, and modulates the picture. And in my case, I could use it as a crude "problem detector". If you have an analog TV set, but the antenna signal is no longer available, you can feed the TV from a VCR (S-video or channel 3), just to get a steady picture, and still look for the herringbone pattern. That's because the herringbone pattern leaks in through the power cable, and doesn't come down the antenna wire. ******* An alternative method, is to place a two or three stage AC line filter before the wall adapter of the ADSL modem. These cost around $70 when you used to be able to buy them as a separate item. They filter noise below about 35MHz or so. The ADSL modem is sensitive to "thru noise". One of the reasons my ADSL2+ modem has two stages of DC regulation, is an attempt by the engineer to stop thru noise on power. If you look at the PCB of the ADSL modem, you'll see someone has gone to a great deal of trouble to "balance" the twisted pair signals and their layout as they work their way through the front end of the modem. Most of the modem "floats" electrically, and this means there is precious little that can be done to "filter" stuff. The design "asks for trouble" in a sense. But, that's the way it must be designed. The DAA is rated for around 1100V withstanding, and it needs to survive having a power line outside your house, fall on the phone line and zap it. And do that, without electrocuting you. It's because of some of these diverse requirements, that it's not all it could be. It's pretty amazing that it works as well as it does. Anyway, have a look at your setup, and you decide whether your conditions in the house might be a factor. Another one of my adventures, was caused by the phone wiring. A junction box on the baseboard, examination of the contacts in the jack, showed corrosion. I ran a separate wire from the demarcation point up to the computer room, to eliminate all the crusty old wiring. And that made an improvement back in the day when I was having troubles (only 33K on a 56K modem, after rewire went to 46K or so). To get phone wire, only my one electronics store was able to supply me with wire intended for the purpose. They could measure off a hunk for me, and that's what I used to run a wire from the basement. Sometimes the hardware store has a reel of that stuff. Since both the demarc and the new baseboard jack, have screw terminals, installation is a cinch. The wire in that case is solid copper wire, maybe 22ga or so, four conductor, yellow/green/black/red. Paul |
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On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 14:24:19 -0400, actodesco wrote:
With my ISP I usually HAVE to re-boot my modem/router every few days. When you can't connect on the internet, you look at the modem, ah, red light, power down, count to 5 and then repower. How long have you been putting up with that? Do you have any plans to address that issue? |
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On 2020-04-02 20:19, actodesco wrote:
On 3/25/2020 6:27 PM, Art Todesco wrote: I'm still locked out of gmail from TBird.Â* I really don't get it.Â* So today, I uninstalled TBird, downloaded a fresh TBird and, even though I erased all of my passwords in TBird, it never askes for a password. Weird!Â* I was going to enable OAuth2 but, as I said, it never askes for a password or key.Â* Any ideas? An update on my problem.Â* As I said previously, I have 4 PCs at home that are having the same problems.Â* I can't use client based email programs, namely Thunderbird, but I also tried the W10 Email client program, with similar results.Â* I called Frontier, my provider and of course, it was not their problem.Â* Yesterday I took my laptop to my church, where they have a different provider with a fiber directly to the building.Â* I turned on the laptop, opened Thunderbird and it immediately started accessing all of my gmails from 2 different accounts.Â* I was also able to send emails.Â* Talking to the Frontier techs, they continued to blame Thunderbird.Â* I told them they were not listening to me as it worked on another ISP's service and I also had the same problem on W10 email client.Â* After many dropped calls and false starts, they were going to bump it to the next tier, but it could take up to 72 hours.Â* I don't believe it will happen without me squawking again.Â* But, today I took my laptop to a friend's house that is close by, which also uses Frontier, but on a different remote.Â* Thunderbird again worked perfectly.Â* So, it looks to me like the problem is in my remote, DSLM.Â* I'm going to try going to a neighbor's house, who is on the same remote as me, and see what happens.Â* No wonder Frontier has filed for some type of bankruptsy protection!Â* More later, as it happens. Hi Art, I feel your pain. I have a customer that needed a business account for a fixed IP and no blocked ports. Frontier had no business circuits in the area, so they put him on a home circuit which blocks all kind of incoming syn packets. I showed them traces and where exactly in the system they were having the issue. The techs threw their hands up in the air. Seems that the guy in charge of the firewall was told by company policy not to speak with customers and the techs could only leave him sticky notes on his desk, which he ignored. No amount of complaining by me or the techs got anywhere. The solution was to get another ISP. I have another customer that whenever Frontier discovers he is running his fax live off his DSL, they disconnect his fax line. They apologize all over the place and fix it for about two weeks, then back to the fax going down again. Ah ya, it was the same guy with the sticky notes again. And again, no amount of complaining by me or the techs got anywhere. "Oh this is wrong" and down the fax went again. The solution was also to get another ISP. If you open a trouble ticket on the 800 line, they CAN NOT speak to the yellow sticky not guy. Only the techs. They call me, I give them the information, they leave a sticky note and "ah shucks". I can not explain Frontier. They are a bunch of, well, I'd better stop here before I have to wash my mouth out with soap. And some folks think Charter/spectrum is bad. (They are.) I work very closely with a small microwave ISP in the area. They all know me by name and I am allowed to talk to ANYONE at their company. It makes a YUGE difference when the right hand knows what the left hand is doing. We refer each other a lot. And since it is my company policy NOT to take kick backs for referrals -- it is a conflict of interest -- it works out nicely. I only refer when it is in my customer's best interest. I don't care for the service from big companies. Get another ISP. This link will give you a (mostly accurate) list: https://broadbandnow.com/ -T |
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On 2020-04-03 06:37, 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
No,Â* he decided to let Jesus Christ solve this for him.Â* Is that OK with you?Â* Did you know that you are likely to be next for that Chinese Virus infection.Â* All Spanish and Columbian drug dealers have been given a tentative date for this!!. Take your religious bigotry somewhere else nym shifter! |
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On 2020-04-03 14:09, Paul wrote:
You'reÂ*notÂ*goingÂ*toÂ*believeÂ*this,Â*butÂ*I've *hadÂ*threeÂ*incidents whereÂ*aÂ*lackÂ*ofÂ*performanceÂ*onÂ*phoneÂ*wires *wasÂ*causedÂ*byÂ*conditions *inside*Â*theÂ*house.Â*IÂ*knowÂ*thatÂ*FrontierÂ*ha sÂ*aÂ*reputationÂ*for "sucking"Â*inÂ*someÂ*locales,Â*soÂ*weÂ*haveÂ*toÂ*c onsiderÂ*that. Don't you love it when you are staring outside your window at their cable floppy around on the ground and they tell you that it is a problem in your facility? I have had that. Thank you Charter/spectrum. |
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On 2020-04-03 07:45, Rabid Roach wrote:
the Chinese Virus. Every nickname they've used so far has erased the fact that the world is currently contaminated because they refused to reveal their data or even do anything about the virus. As such, whether they somehow consider it racist or not, this virus should go down in history with the appropriate "Chinese virus" name. I prefer the RED Chinese Virus of Death. Keep in mind there are two China's. The nationalists would have never withheld such information. Free China (Taiwan) is what China should have been. This is why I prefer the RED label. Hmmm. The Spanish flu, the German measles, Lyme (Connecticut ) disease ... Some folks need to meet some actual racists before throwing around such terms. |
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On 4/3/2020 5:15 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 14:24:19 -0400, actodesco wrote: With my ISP I usually HAVE to re-boot my modem/router every few days. When you can't connect on the internet, you look at the modem, ah, red light, power down, count to 5 and then repower. How long have you been putting up with that? Do you have any plans to address that issue? For some time now. I'm thinking that when they doubled my speed, even thought I am a bit over the loop lenth limit, that might be causing it. But, I'd rather put up with is than have even slower speed. |
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On 4/3/2020 6:17 PM, T wrote:
On 2020-04-02 20:19, actodesco wrote: On 3/25/2020 6:27 PM, Art Todesco wrote: I'm still locked out of gmail from TBird.Â* I really don't get it.Â* So today, I uninstalled TBird, downloaded a fresh TBird and, even though I erased all of my passwords in TBird, it never askes for a password. Weird!Â* I was going to enable OAuth2 but, as I said, it never askes for a password or key.Â* Any ideas? An update on my problem.Â* As I said previously, I have 4 PCs at home that are having the same problems.Â* I can't use client based email programs, namely Thunderbird, but I also tried the W10 Email client program, with similar results.Â* I called Frontier, my provider and of course, it was not their problem.Â* Yesterday I took my laptop to my church, where they have a different provider with a fiber directly to the building.Â* I turned on the laptop, opened Thunderbird and it immediately started accessing all of my gmails from 2 different accounts.Â* I was also able to send emails.Â* Talking to the Frontier techs, they continued to blame Thunderbird.Â* I told them they were not listening to me as it worked on another ISP's service and I also had the same problem on W10 email client.Â* After many dropped calls and false starts, they were going to bump it to the next tier, but it could take up to 72 hours.Â* I don't believe it will happen without me squawking again.Â* But, today I took my laptop to a friend's house that is close by, which also uses Frontier, but on a different remote. Thunderbird again worked perfectly.Â* So, it looks to me like the problem is in my remote, DSLM.Â* I'm going to try going to a neighbor's house, who is on the same remote as me, and see what happens.Â* No wonder Frontier has filed for some type of bankruptsy protection! More later, as it happens. Hi Art, I feel your pain. I have a customer that needed a business account for a fixed IP and no blocked ports.Â* Frontier had no business circuits in the area, so they put him on a home circuit which blocks all kind of incoming syn packets.Â* I showed them traces and where exactly in the system they were having the issue.Â* The techs threw their hands up in the air. Seems that the guy in charge of the firewall was told by company policy not to speak with customers and the techs could only leave him sticky notes on his desk, which he ignored.Â* No amount of complaining by me or the techs got anywhere. The solution was to get another ISP. I have another customer that whenever Frontier discovers he is running his fax live off his DSL, they disconnect his fax line.Â* They apologize all over the place and fix it for about two weeks, then back to the fax going down again.Â* Ah ya, it was the same guy with the sticky notes again.Â*Â* And again, no amount of complaining by me or the techs got anywhere.Â* "Oh this is wrong" and down the fax went again. The solution was also to get another ISP. If you open a trouble ticket on the 800 line, they CAN NOT speak to the yellow sticky not guy. Only the techs.Â* They call me, I give them the information, they leave a sticky note and "ah shucks". I can not explain Frontier.Â* They are a bunch of, well, I'd better stop here before I have to wash my mouth out with soap. And some folks think Charter/spectrum is bad.Â* (They are.) I work very closely with a small microwave ISP in the area. They all know me by name and I am allowed to talk to ANYONE at their company.Â* It makes a YUGE difference when the right hand knows what the left hand is doing.Â* We refer each other a lot.Â* And since it is my company policy NOT to take kick backs for referrals -- it is a conflict of interest -- it works out nicely.Â* I only refer when it is in my customer's best interest. I don't care for the service from big companies. Get another ISP.Â* This linkÂ* will give you a (mostly accurate) list: https://broadbandnow.com/ -T Unfortunately they are the only game in town. The cable company refuses to bring cable up the mountain where I live. There are potentially about 100 customers here, but I'm sure running the cable would be big bucks. I could go satelite but they pretty much don't allow streaming of say, movies or MLB content. Also, another thing I've noticed in the last week or 2 was sometimes when you click on a link, it just sits there forever. If you reload the link, it pops up almost instantly. They obviously have some bad paths through their network. |
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On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 23:12:30 -0400, actodesco wrote:
On 4/3/2020 5:15 PM, Char Jackson wrote: On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 14:24:19 -0400, actodesco wrote: With my ISP I usually HAVE to re-boot my modem/router every few days. When you can't connect on the internet, you look at the modem, ah, red light, power down, count to 5 and then repower. How long have you been putting up with that? Do you have any plans to address that issue? For some time now. I'm thinking that when they doubled my speed, even thought I am a bit over the loop lenth limit, that might be causing it. But, I'd rather put up with is than have even slower speed. That would drive me nuts, but your situation puts you in a weak negotiating position. If the only other choice is satellite, then you're sort of stuck with what you have. Still, maybe the ISP can fix it versus making it worse. Good luck to you. |
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On 2020-04-03 20:17, actodesco wrote:
On 4/3/2020 6:17 PM, T wrote: On 2020-04-02 20:19, actodesco wrote: On 3/25/2020 6:27 PM, Art Todesco wrote: I'm still locked out of gmail from TBird.Â* I really don't get it. So today, I uninstalled TBird, downloaded a fresh TBird and, even though I erased all of my passwords in TBird, it never askes for a password. Weird!Â* I was going to enable OAuth2 but, as I said, it never askes for a password or key.Â* Any ideas? An update on my problem.Â* As I said previously, I have 4 PCs at home that are having the same problems.Â* I can't use client based email programs, namely Thunderbird, but I also tried the W10 Email client program, with similar results.Â* I called Frontier, my provider and of course, it was not their problem.Â* Yesterday I took my laptop to my church, where they have a different provider with a fiber directly to the building.Â* I turned on the laptop, opened Thunderbird and it immediately started accessing all of my gmails from 2 different accounts.Â* I was also able to send emails.Â* Talking to the Frontier techs, they continued to blame Thunderbird.Â* I told them they were not listening to me as it worked on another ISP's service and I also had the same problem on W10 email client.Â* After many dropped calls and false starts, they were going to bump it to the next tier, but it could take up to 72 hours.Â* I don't believe it will happen without me squawking again.Â* But, today I took my laptop to a friend's house that is close by, which also uses Frontier, but on a different remote. Thunderbird again worked perfectly.Â* So, it looks to me like the problem is in my remote, DSLM.Â* I'm going to try going to a neighbor's house, who is on the same remote as me, and see what happens.Â* No wonder Frontier has filed for some type of bankruptsy protection! More later, as it happens. Hi Art, I feel your pain. I have a customer that needed a business account for a fixed IP and no blocked ports.Â* Frontier had no business circuits in the area, so they put him on a home circuit which blocks all kind of incoming syn packets.Â* I showed them traces and where exactly in the system they were having the issue.Â* The techs threw their hands up in the air. Seems that the guy in charge of the firewall was told by company policy not to speak with customers and the techs could only leave him sticky notes on his desk, which he ignored.Â* No amount of complaining by me or the techs got anywhere. The solution was to get another ISP. I have another customer that whenever Frontier discovers he is running his fax live off his DSL, they disconnect his fax line.Â* They apologize all over the place and fix it for about two weeks, then back to the fax going down again.Â* Ah ya, it was the same guy with the sticky notes again.Â*Â* And again, no amount of complaining by me or the techs got anywhere.Â* "Oh this is wrong" and down the fax went again. The solution was also to get another ISP. If you open a trouble ticket on the 800 line, they CAN NOT speak to the yellow sticky not guy. Only the techs.Â* They call me, I give them the information, they leave a sticky note and "ah shucks". I can not explain Frontier.Â* They are a bunch of, well, I'd better stop here before I have to wash my mouth out with soap. And some folks think Charter/spectrum is bad.Â* (They are.) I work very closely with a small microwave ISP in the area. They all know me by name and I am allowed to talk to ANYONE at their company.Â* It makes a YUGE difference when the right hand knows what the left hand is doing.Â* We refer each other a lot.Â* And since it is my company policy NOT to take kick backs for referrals -- it is a conflict of interest -- it works out nicely.Â* I only refer when it is in my customer's best interest. I don't care for the service from big companies. Get another ISP.Â* This linkÂ* will give you a (mostly accurate) list: https://broadbandnow.com/ -T Unfortunately they are the only game in town.Â* The cable company refuses to bring cable up the mountain where I live.Â* There are potentially about 100 customers here, but I'm sure running the cable would be big bucks.Â* I could go satelite but they pretty much don't allow streaming of say, movies or MLB content.Â* Also, another thing I've noticed in the last week or 2 was sometimes when you click on a link, it just sits there forever.Â* If you reload the link, it pops up almost instantly. They obviously have some bad paths through their network. Are there no microwave services out there? |
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