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I am getting ready to replace my MB and Processor. I have read the article
from MS ID#824125. What I am trying to do is repalce these items and not touch the hard drive. I do not want to reinstall WinXP SP2 as I want to wait until Vista is released and then do a complete reinstall. Has anyone used this procedure with any luck? Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks |
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Dont need to read 824125 because thier is no possible way to install a new
MB/processor and simply fire up the hd with the old xp OS on it and expect it to run.You need to do a clean install of xp with a new board.. "Irv" wrote: I am getting ready to replace my MB and Processor. I have read the article from MS ID#824125. What I am trying to do is repalce these items and not touch the hard drive. I do not want to reinstall WinXP SP2 as I want to wait until Vista is released and then do a complete reinstall. Has anyone used this procedure with any luck? Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks |
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"Irv" wrote in message ... I am getting ready to replace my MB and Processor. I have read the article from MS ID#824125. What I am trying to do is repalce these items and not touch the hard drive. I do not want to reinstall WinXP SP2 as I want to wait until Vista is released and then do a complete reinstall. Has anyone used this procedure with any luck? Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks Your only option is wait until Vista ships. There is no way to replace the motherboard and the processor and *NOT* have to do a clean install. Bobby |
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Thanks Guy's. I was afraid you would say that. I'll prepare for a reinstall.
Appreciated "Hertz_Donut" wrote: "Irv" wrote in message ... I am getting ready to replace my MB and Processor. I have read the article from MS ID#824125. What I am trying to do is repalce these items and not touch the hard drive. I do not want to reinstall WinXP SP2 as I want to wait until Vista is released and then do a complete reinstall. Has anyone used this procedure with any luck? Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks Your only option is wait until Vista ships. There is no way to replace the motherboard and the processor and *NOT* have to do a clean install. Bobby |
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Andrew E. wrote:
Dont need to read 824125 because thier is no possible way to install a new MB/processor and simply fire up the hd with the old xp OS on it and expect it to run.You need to do a clean install of xp with a new board.. Liar. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell |
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Irv wrote:
I am getting ready to replace my MB and Processor. I have read the article from MS ID#824125. What I am trying to do is repalce these items and not touch the hard drive. I do not want to reinstall WinXP SP2 as I want to wait until Vista is released and then do a complete reinstall. Has anyone used this procedure with any luck? Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks Normally, and assuming a retail license (many factory-installed OEM installations are BIOS-locked to a specific chipset and therefore are *not* transferable to a new motherboard - check yours before starting), unless the new motherboard is virtually identical (same chipset, same IDE controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on which the WinXP installation was originally performed, you'll need to perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very least: How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/directo...;EN-US;Q315341 Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP Installed http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point. You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it, is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable than the Win9x group. As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any important data before starting. This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than 120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell |
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Hertz_Donut wrote:
Your only option is wait until Vista ships. There is no way to replace the motherboard and the processor and *NOT* have to do a clean install. Bobby Liar. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell |
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Make sure you have a good backup (just in case) and follow Bruce Chamber's
instructions. Ignore Andrew E. and Hertz_Donut. They don't know what they are talking about. -- Kerry MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User http://www.vistahelp.ca Irv wrote: I am getting ready to replace my MB and Processor. I have read the article from MS ID#824125. What I am trying to do is repalce these items and not touch the hard drive. I do not want to reinstall WinXP SP2 as I want to wait until Vista is released and then do a complete reinstall. Has anyone used this procedure with any luck? Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks |
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My question would be what are the chances of success?
I am doing an upgrade to me system with an upgraded MB and Dual COre processor. It is a retail version of winxp sp2 "Bruce Chambers" wrote: Irv wrote: I am getting ready to replace my MB and Processor. I have read the article from MS ID#824125. What I am trying to do is repalce these items and not touch the hard drive. I do not want to reinstall WinXP SP2 as I want to wait until Vista is released and then do a complete reinstall. Has anyone used this procedure with any luck? Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks Normally, and assuming a retail license (many factory-installed OEM installations are BIOS-locked to a specific chipset and therefore are *not* transferable to a new motherboard - check yours before starting), unless the new motherboard is virtually identical (same chipset, same IDE controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on which the WinXP installation was originally performed, you'll need to perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very least: How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/directo...;EN-US;Q315341 Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP Installed http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point. You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it, is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable than the Win9x group. As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any important data before starting. This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than 120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell |
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"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message ... Hertz_Donut wrote: Your only option is wait until Vista ships. There is no way to replace the motherboard and the processor and *NOT* have to do a clean install. Bobby Liar. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell Feeling a bit snippy? Generally, a new MB and a new processor don't do well with in-place re-install...I have never seen one that went well, and didn't leave a ton of useless baggage behind in the install. It is better, when *both* the MB and processor are being replaced, to do a clean install. Less headaches in the long run. Had it been one *OR* the other, and in-place is usually okay. Bobby |
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The chances are very good it will work. I've replaced hundreds of
motherboards and have only had to do a clean install a couple of times. There are a few things you can do to help the process. Before starting uninstall programs that are likely to cause problems. This includes antivirus, antispyware, and 3rd party firewalls. Make sure you have a Windows CD of the same version and service pack level as the installed Windows. Make sure you have drivers for all the new hardware. Make sure you have a backup just in case something does go wrong. -- Kerry MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User http://www.vistahelp.ca Irv wrote: My question would be what are the chances of success? I am doing an upgrade to me system with an upgraded MB and Dual COre processor. It is a retail version of winxp sp2 "Bruce Chambers" wrote: Irv wrote: I am getting ready to replace my MB and Processor. I have read the article from MS ID#824125. What I am trying to do is repalce these items and not touch the hard drive. I do not want to reinstall WinXP SP2 as I want to wait until Vista is released and then do a complete reinstall. Has anyone used this procedure with any luck? Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks Normally, and assuming a retail license (many factory-installed OEM installations are BIOS-locked to a specific chipset and therefore are *not* transferable to a new motherboard - check yours before starting), unless the new motherboard is virtually identical (same chipset, same IDE controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on which the WinXP installation was originally performed, you'll need to perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very least: How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/directo...;EN-US;Q315341 Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP Installed http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point. You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it, is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable than the Win9x group. As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any important data before starting. This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than 120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell |
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Thanks, I will do that. I use Acronis True Imagine to make weekly backups so
no problem there. "Kerry Brown" wrote: Make sure you have a good backup (just in case) and follow Bruce Chamber's instructions. Ignore Andrew E. and Hertz_Donut. They don't know what they are talking about. -- Kerry MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User http://www.vistahelp.ca Irv wrote: I am getting ready to replace my MB and Processor. I have read the article from MS ID#824125. What I am trying to do is repalce these items and not touch the hard drive. I do not want to reinstall WinXP SP2 as I want to wait until Vista is released and then do a complete reinstall. Has anyone used this procedure with any luck? Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks |
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Before you swap the mobo/CPU, uninstall your add-in cards,
printers,scanners, etc. Shutdown and do the parts swap. Put the XP CD in the drive and boot from the CD. Either set the boot jumper on the mobo or hope the BIOS is set to boot from the CD first. If not sure do not connect the hard drive and turn the computer on and check the BIOS settings. Do a repair install of the OS in the same location so you don't create a dual boot. After the computer has finished and rebooted, reinstall you cards and devices ONE AT A TIME and reboot. Of curse if you do disconnect the hard drive, you'll need to reconnect it after setting the BIOS. "Irv" wrote in message ... | Thanks Guy's. I was afraid you would say that. I'll prepare for a reinstall. | Appreciated | | "Hertz_Donut" wrote: | | | "Irv" wrote in message | ... | I am getting ready to replace my MB and Processor. I have read the article | from MS ID#824125. | What I am trying to do is repalce these items and not touch the hard | drive. | I do not want to reinstall WinXP SP2 as I want to wait until Vista is | released and then do a complete reinstall. Has anyone used this procedure | with any luck? Any suggestions are welcome. | Thanks | | Your only option is wait until Vista ships. There is no way to replace the | motherboard and the processor and *NOT* have to do a clean install. | | Bobby | | | |
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How was my answer Bruce. Who are these trolls who lie to
people. -- The people think the Constitution protects their rights; But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome. some support http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties. "Bruce Chambers" wrote in message ... | Hertz_Donut wrote: | | | Your only option is wait until Vista ships. There is no way to replace the | motherboard and the processor and *NOT* have to do a clean install. | | Bobby | | | | Liar. | | | -- | | Bruce Chambers | | Help us help you: | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | | They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary | safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin | | Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell |
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If you follow the directions and uninstall extraneous
hardware, so Windows doesn't have to work around them, set the BIOS to boot from the CD and then do your swap of the mobo and CPU and boot from the CD, your only likely error is to do a clean install as a dual boot. Be sure to follow the instruction Bruce listed and read the instructions on screen when the CD boots. Do it right and I'd say your odds at 95% success. Be sure to have reliable power [ UPS ] if you can. If you can afford it, why not buy a new hard drive and do a clean install, gain more storage and avoid the hassle. The your old drive becomes your slave and backup. -- The people think the Constitution protects their rights; But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome. some support http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties. "Irv" wrote in message ... | My question would be what are the chances of success? | I am doing an upgrade to me system with an upgraded MB and Dual COre | processor. It is a retail version of winxp sp2 | | "Bruce Chambers" wrote: | | Irv wrote: | I am getting ready to replace my MB and Processor. I have read the article | from MS ID#824125. | What I am trying to do is repalce these items and not touch the hard drive. | I do not want to reinstall WinXP SP2 as I want to wait until Vista is | released and then do a complete reinstall. Has anyone used this procedure | with any luck? Any suggestions are welcome. | Thanks | | | Normally, and assuming a retail license (many factory-installed OEM | installations are BIOS-locked to a specific chipset and therefore are | *not* transferable to a new motherboard - check yours before starting), | unless the new motherboard is virtually identical (same chipset, same | IDE controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on which the WinXP | installation was originally performed, you'll need to perform a repair | (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very least: | | How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP | http://support.microsoft.com/directo...;EN-US;Q315341 | | Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP Installed | http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html | | The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with | licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point. | You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If | you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a | Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style | foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it, | is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any | old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it | "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the | reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable | than the Win9x group. | | As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any | important data before starting. | | This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a | Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than | 120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most | likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's | been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call. | | | | -- | | Bruce Chambers | | Help us help you: | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | | They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary | safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin | | Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell | |
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