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  #16  
Old January 23rd 11, 10:34 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Weasel
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Default Newsgroups, Windows live mail

When I unstalled WLM 2011 the 2009 version was gone. I downloaded the 2009
version and everytime I tried to install it I got a message saying I already
had a newer version and would end.

"Ken Blake" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:44:29 -0600, "Weasel"
wrote:

You got that right. I didn't listen and installed that piece of crap and
tried to remove it. Had to end up reinstalling my Win 7 and all the
applications.




Why did you have to do that? That was a lot of work, for almost no
benefit. Yes, it's worse than the older version, but the older version
wasn't much good either. You could have left it there and just not
used it. There are many better choices you could have used instead.



"Clogwog" wrote in message
...
"Alex Clayton" schreef in bericht
...
"Jim" wrote in message
...
It's my understanding that Microsoft Live Mail will no longer provide
or
facilitate access to NNTP newsgroups, and that they are gradually
eliminating access. With Windows 7, I can no longer get access to
newsgroups even though I pay a monthly fee to a commercial service
for
newsgroup access. ( I have been able to get access on Thunderbird,
but
not on Windows Live Mail or Yahoo mail.)


Snip
Jim

So who told you this?
I am using Win.7 and WLM and it is working just great.

Since you run Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726, yes it does.
If you upgrade to WLM 2011, it's going to be a mess!


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  #17  
Old January 23rd 11, 10:42 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
relic[_3_]
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"Weasel" wrote in message
...
When I unstalled WLM 2011 the 2009 version was gone. I downloaded the 2009
version and everytime I tried to install it I got a message saying I
already had a newer version and would end.


Remove Version 15 in Add/Remove programs first, then you can install Version
14.

For those who want to go back to Version 14, here's a download:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/2m7ujt


  #18  
Old January 23rd 11, 11:52 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Weasel
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I did remove 2011 first. Had no problem removing it.

"relic" wrote in message
...

"Weasel" wrote in message
...
When I unstalled WLM 2011 the 2009 version was gone. I downloaded the
2009 version and everytime I tried to install it I got a message saying I
already had a newer version and would end.


Remove Version 15 in Add/Remove programs first, then you can install
Version 14.

For those who want to go back to Version 14, here's a download:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/2m7ujt



  #19  
Old January 24th 11, 12:19 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Alias[_48_]
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Default Newsgroups, Windows live mail

On 01/23/2011 10:56 PM, Lewis wrote:
You can still access newsgroups and post with WLM, but you will ****
over every person in whatever newsgroup you post to since WLM is
severely broken and cannot post properly. MSFT has know about this issue
and has made no moves towards fixing it.


I think it was done on purpose to try and persuade users to leave Usenet
and go to web based, moderated forums.

--
Alias
  #20  
Old January 24th 11, 12:46 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Stan Brown
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Default Newsgroups, Windows live mail

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:54:33 -0800, Alex Clayton wrote:
Great, I did not know MS decided to screw this up now. I guess if I get
another computer or have to format one I will have to learn to use something
like T-Bird then. I had tried them years ago but gave up.


Unless you are dissatisfied with your mail program, I can't imagine
why you'd install another one. Thunderbird is a mail program that
incidentally does newsgroups. You are much better off to install a
program that is intended to do newsgroups. My own personal favorite
is Gravity, but there are plenty of other choices that are superior
to Thunderbird, let alone WLM.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...
  #21  
Old January 24th 11, 12:47 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Stan Brown
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:54:33 -0800, Alex Clayton wrote:
What changes have they made to Win.-7 that would keep these from working
with the news readers,


Please read what Bruce Hagen said:

"Windows 7 is an OS and has nothing to do with the newsgroups."



--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...
  #22  
Old January 24th 11, 12:48 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Stan Brown
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:40:44 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, they didn't suddenly decide to screw up
Windows Live Mail. Windows Live Mail started out screwed up from the
very beginning. I never liked it.


True, but they do seem to be pessimizing it. :-)

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...
  #23  
Old January 24th 11, 12:48 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Stan Brown
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:34:38 -0600, Weasel wrote:

When I unstalled WLM 2011 the 2009 version was gone. I downloaded the 2009
version and everytime I tried to install it I got a message saying I already
had a newer version and would end.

"Ken Blake" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:44:29 -0600, "Weasel"
wrote:

You got that right. I didn't listen and installed that piece of crap and
tried to remove it. Had to end up reinstalling my Win 7 and all the
applications.


Please don't post upside down. And please *do* trim your quotes.

--
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http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...
  #24  
Old January 24th 11, 02:10 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Nil[_2_]
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On 23 Jan 2011, Ken Blake wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

As far as I'm concerned, they didn't suddenly decide to screw up
Windows Live Mail. Windows Live Mail started out screwed up from
the very beginning. I never liked it.


WLM (previous to this latest cock-up) seemed to me to be about as good
or bad as WM or Outlook Express. I never used any of them regularly, so
I could easily have missed some of OE's hidden charms.
  #25  
Old January 24th 11, 02:13 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Nil[_2_]
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Default Newsgroups, Windows live mail

On 23 Jan 2011, "Weasel" wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

You got that right. I didn't listen and installed that piece of
crap and tried to remove it. Had to end up reinstalling my Win 7
and all the applications.


I installed WLM 2011 and when I discovered I didn't like it, I
uninstalled it and reinstalled WLM 2009. No problems at all, my message
base and all settings were preserved.

Sounds like you went through a lot of unnecessary agony for nothing.
  #26  
Old January 24th 11, 02:24 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Alex Clayton[_3_]
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"Stan Brown" wrote in message
t...
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:54:33 -0800, Alex Clayton wrote:
Great, I did not know MS decided to screw this up now. I guess if I get
another computer or have to format one I will have to learn to use
something
like T-Bird then. I had tried them years ago but gave up.


Unless you are dissatisfied with your mail program, I can't imagine
why you'd install another one. Thunderbird is a mail program that
incidentally does newsgroups. You are much better off to install a
program that is intended to do newsgroups. My own personal favorite
is Gravity, but there are plenty of other choices that are superior
to Thunderbird, let alone WLM.




I started in with Usenet with Web-TV. I started with a computer with a
Win.ME, then XP, Vista, and now W-7. I tried OE at first since it came with
the PC. Tired it for E-Mail but never liked it as much as web based E-mail,
so I just have stuck with Yahoo.
I tried T-Bird twice. first time was long ago because so many people said
everything was better than OE. I could not get it to work so I gave up since
to me OE seemed to be working fine.
I then tried it again with Vista because for a while MS had screwed up WM
so it would not work with Usenet. As usual MS was claiming nothing was wrong
on their end. I again could not get T-Bird to work with my news feed but
before trying to find out why someone suggested a free news feed that is
called Eternal September now, it was something else then. It worked with the
WM for some reason, so again I gave up on T-Bird.
When W-7 came along I loaded WLM and it was close enough to OE and WM as
far as a news reader that I could figure it out fast so stuck with it.

--
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'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads
weren't paved.
Will Rogers


  #27  
Old January 24th 11, 02:52 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
relic[_3_]
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Default Newsgroups, Windows live mail


"Weasel" wrote in message
...
I did remove 2011 first. Had no problem removing it.


Did you also remove every other piece of Windows Live? Just removing the
mail piece isn't enough.



"relic" wrote in message
...

"Weasel" wrote in message
...
When I unstalled WLM 2011 the 2009 version was gone. I downloaded the
2009 version and everytime I tried to install it I got a message saying
I already had a newer version and would end.


Remove Version 15 in Add/Remove programs first, then you can install
Version 14.

For those who want to go back to Version 14, here's a download:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/2m7ujt






  #28  
Old January 24th 11, 02:53 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
relic[_3_]
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Posts: 378
Default Newsgroups, Windows live mail


"Alias" wrote in message
...
On 01/23/2011 10:56 PM, Lewis wrote:
You can still access newsgroups and post with WLM, but you will ****
over every person in whatever newsgroup you post to since WLM is
severely broken and cannot post properly. MSFT has know about this issue
and has made no moves towards fixing it.


I think it was done on purpose to try and persuade users to leave Usenet
and go to web based, moderated forums.


Never!

  #29  
Old January 24th 11, 06:51 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Justin[_14_]
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Default Newsgroups, Windows live mail

Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3508.1109)
Copyright © 2010 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

for the time being.
Normally I use a Mac, but when I travel to dangerous places, I take my
crappy laptops - ones that run Windows of course.

"Jeff Layman" wrote in message ...

On 23/01/2011 16:23, Alex Clayton wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
It's my understanding that Microsoft Live Mail will no longer provide
or facilitate access to NNTP newsgroups, and that they are gradually
eliminating access. With Windows 7, I can no longer get access to
newsgroups even though I pay a monthly fee to a commercial service for
newsgroup access. ( I have been able to get access on Thunderbird, but
not on Windows Live Mail or Yahoo mail.)


Snip
Jim


So who told you this?
I am using Win.7 and WLM and it is working just great.


That's because you have stayed with WLM version 14. Heaven help those
who install v15 and expect to make sense of even a short thread!

--

Jeff

  #30  
Old January 24th 11, 07:09 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Tom Lake
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Default Newsgroups, Windows live mail

"Stan Brown" wrote in message
t...

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 10:54:33 -0800, Alex Clayton wrote:
Great, I did not know MS decided to screw this up now. I guess if I get
another computer or have to format one I will have to learn to use
something
like T-Bird then. I had tried them years ago but gave up.


Unless you are dissatisfied with your mail program, I can't imagine
why you'd install another one. Thunderbird is a mail program that
incidentally does newsgroups. You are much better off to install a
program that is intended to do newsgroups. My own personal favorite
is Gravity, but there are plenty of other choices that are superior
to Thunderbird, let alone WLM.


WLM works fine for me. I can read newsgroup messages, post to newsgroups
and have my replies automatically be put at the bottom of a message. That's
all I require in a newsreader. WLM can also combine binary files that are
posted
in pieces although I don't use that facility too often. What features do
other
people need that WLM can't provide?

Tom L

 




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