No email on W-7

"RH Breener" wrote in message
...
Hi, I recently bought a new HP PC (64bit) with W-7. It came with a
really
bad email software called WindowsLiveMail that will not work for me.
There
is no way to set a rule to keep large files from downloading as in
WindowsMail. I don't have unlimited Internet downloads. I can't find
Send
& Recieve either. I can't find any way to show the size of downloaded
mail.
I tried Thunderbird and don't care for it at all. How can I get a copy
of
WindowsMail or even OutlookExpress on W-7? I don't or want an email
program
that has all the bells and whistles I don't need or care about.

Is there some way I can get WindowsMail to work on W-7?



I can't stand "Walmail" either and don't use it, but you can make a size
rule . Message rules are identical to OE and WinMail as far as I can see.

Send & Receive it a button on the Home tab ribbon at the right.

You can customize the Message Pane header columns and add Size just like
OE and WinMail.


Neither OE or WinMail ever had a downloadable version, but there are
workarounds.


How to use Outlook Express in Windows 7
http://www.oehelp.com/OEnWin7.aspx


How to Reinstate Windows Mail in Windows 7
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...dows-mail.html

How to enable Windows Mail app in Windows 7
http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic137494.html

When SP1 came out, the process needed to be repeated to get WinMail to
work again, so you can expect to do it again in the future.

In message , RH Breener
writes:
Hi, I recently bought a new HP PC (64bit) with W-7. It came with a really
bad email software called WindowsLiveMail that will not work for me. There

From all accounts, you're not missing much - WLM version 15, at least,
doesn't quote properly. (Incidentally, my understanding is that it isn't
actually part of a basic W7 install, so whoever built the PC - HP? -
must have decided to include it. It's free from Microsoft.)

is no way to set a rule to keep large files from downloading as in
WindowsMail. I don't have unlimited Internet downloads. I can't find Send
& Recieve either. I can't find any way to show the size of downloaded mail.
I tried Thunderbird and don't care for it at all. How can I get a copy of

Interesting that you don't like Thunderbird, if you like OutlookExpress;
it can be made to look very like OE. There are also flavours of TB - for
example, there's one that looks like Eudora, if you know that one.

WindowsMail or even OutlookExpress on W-7? I don't or want an email program
that has all the bells and whistles I don't need or care about.

Is there some way I can get WindowsMail to work on W-7?

I _think_ you can - Windows Mail as opposed to Windows Live Mail -
though not OE. Over to the experts ...

As for seeing the size of mails before you download them, see if your
provider offers a web interface; those usually do show the size.
--
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If you are afraid of being lonely, don't try to be right. - Jules Renard,
writer (1864-1910)

On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:09:25 -0700, "RH Breener"
wrote:

Hi, I recently bought a new HP PC (64bit) with W-7. It came with


Note that it's your HP PC that came with Windows Live Mail, not
Windows 7. Windows Live Mail is a free program that HP (and many other
OEMs) bundle with their Windows 7 computers.


a really
bad email software called WindowsLiveMail that will not work for me.



I'm entirely with you. I think it's about the worst choice there is.


How can I get a copy of
WindowsMail or even OutlookExpress on W-7? I don't or want an email program
that has all the bells and whistles I don't need or care about.

Is there some way I can get WindowsMail to work on W-7?



Yes. Read he
http://www.mydigitallife.info/downlo...-in-windows-7/

But you can *not* run Outlook Express in Windows 7.

Here's my standard post on this subject:

Windows 7 comes with *no* e-mail or newsgroup program. Although many
people object to this, I think it's a step in the right direction,
since it leaves everyone more free to choose whatever program(s) he
likes best. There are many choices available, both from Microsoft and
from third-parties. Some are free and some are for sale. Microsoft has
Windows Live Mail (which is essentially also a newer version of
Outlook Express/Windows Mail, with still another new name) available
for download for free and Outlook (a different program from outlook
express) available for sale, either alone or as part of Microsoft
Office.

If your computer came with Windows 7 preinstalled, it may have also
come with Windows Live Mail. If so, that's not because Windows 7 came
with it, it's because your computer's manufacturer bundled it with
what he sold you.
Some people will tell you to use Windows Live Mail; others will tell
you to use Thunderbird; still others may have other recommendations.

My advice is to ignore all such recommendations. I personally use
Microsoft Outlook for e-mail and Forté Agent for newsgroups, but you
should try several and choose what *you* like best, rather than make
your decision based on what I, or anyone else, likes best (or even
what Microsoft suggests).

Hi, RH.

As you probably have learned by now, Win7 comes from Microsoft with NO
mail/news client at all. HP must have added WLM to your machine. Microsoft
got tired of complaints about "bloat" in Windows Vista and prior, so they
removed several add-on features, including mail/news, from Win7. They say
that we are now free to select any mail/news client we want (Thunderbird,
Agent, or any of several others) and install it ourselves.

OE will not run on Win7. WM will not run on Win7, either, officially. But
some users have made it work with a patch that should not be too hard to
find. (I haven't looked for it because I prefer WLM to WM. I'll probably
get flamed for that.)

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3555.0308) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


"RH Breener" wrote in message ...

Hi, I recently bought a new HP PC (64bit) with W-7. It came with a really
bad email software called WindowsLiveMail that will not work for me. There
is no way to set a rule to keep large files from downloading as in
WindowsMail. I don't have unlimited Internet downloads. I can't find Send
& Recieve either. I can't find any way to show the size of downloaded mail.
I tried Thunderbird and don't care for it at all. How can I get a copy of
WindowsMail or even OutlookExpress on W-7? I don't or want an email program
that has all the bells and whistles I don't need or care about.

Is there some way I can get WindowsMail to work on W-7?

I haven't looked for it because I prefer WLM to WM. I'll probably get
flamed for that.)

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3555.0308) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1



Consider yourself flamed! eg
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Oct. 1, 2004 ~ Sept. 30, 2010
Imperial Beach, CA

RH Breener wrote:
Hi, I recently bought a new HP PC (64bit) with W-7. It came with a really
bad email software called WindowsLiveMail that will not work for me. There
is no way to set a rule to keep large files from downloading as in
WindowsMail. I don't have unlimited Internet downloads. I can't find Send
& Recieve either. I can't find any way to show the size of downloaded
mail.
I tried Thunderbird and don't care for it at all. How can I get a copy of
WindowsMail or even OutlookExpress on W-7? I don't or want an email
program
that has all the bells and whistles I don't need or care about.

Is there some way I can get WindowsMail to work on W-7?


People have already replied to your main message but I would say that
your HP PC also came with the wrong timezone. So you need to attend to
this problem as well when you deal with your mail problem.

Don't suffer from small penis syndrome. Get my penile extensions.

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On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:09:25 -0700, "RH Breener"
wrote:

Hi, I recently bought a new HP PC (64bit) with W-7. It came with a really
bad email software called WindowsLiveMail that will not work for me. There
is no way to set a rule to keep large files from downloading as in
WindowsMail. I don't have unlimited Internet downloads. I can't find Send
& Recieve either. I can't find any way to show the size of downloaded mail.
I tried Thunderbird and don't care for it at all. How can I get a copy of
WindowsMail or even OutlookExpress on W-7? I don't or want an email program
that has all the bells and whistles I don't need or care about.

Is there some way I can get WindowsMail to work on W-7?

I had this sort of trouble when I upgraded from
XP. I finally bit the bullet and bought
Outlook10 and have not regretted it.
Peter

Just use Thunderbird it is free.

Hi, I recently bought a new HP PC (64bit) with W-7. It came with a really
bad email software called WindowsLiveMail that will not work for me. There
is no way to set a rule to keep large files from downloading as in
WindowsMail. I don't have unlimited Internet downloads. I can't find Send
& Recieve either. I can't find any way to show the size of downloaded mail.
I tried Thunderbird and don't care for it at all. How can I get a copy of
WindowsMail or even OutlookExpress on W-7? I don't or want an email program
that has all the bells and whistles I don't need or care about.

Is there some way I can get WindowsMail to work on W-7?

On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:58:44 -0500, "R. C. White"
wrote:

Hi, RH.

As you probably have learned by now, Win7 comes from Microsoft with NO
mail/news client at all. HP must have added WLM to your machine. Microsoft
got tired of complaints about "bloat" in Windows Vista and prior, so they
removed several add-on features, including mail/news, from Win7.



It's very hard to know why Microsoft did any of the things they did.
Did they do it because they get tired of complaints? Maybe, but
personally I doubt it. I don't know the reason, but I don't think
that's it.


They say
that we are now free to select any mail/news client we want (Thunderbird,
Agent, or any of several others) and install it ourselves.

OE will not run on Win7. WM will not run on Win7, either, officially. But
some users have made it work with a patch that should not be too hard to
find.


Not really a patch. You just need to copy it from Windows Vista to
Windows 7.



(I haven't looked for it because I prefer WLM to WM. I'll probably
get flamed for that.)


"Flamed" is too strong a word for me here, but as you know, I
thoroughly disagree.

I wasn't a big Windows Mail fan (to me, there are better choices than
either), but I think it was *much* better than Windows Live Mail.

On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:48:49 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

[snip]

Windows 7 comes with *no* e-mail or newsgroup program. Although many
people object to this, I think it's a step in the right direction,
since it leaves everyone more free to choose whatever program(s) he
likes best. There are many choices available, both from Microsoft and

Hardly. Someone can still download what he prefers. When I
first got onto the Net back in 1995, my ISP supplied some basic
software. Without it, I might not have found out about USENET. I was
always free to switch. Free Agent I stuck with, upgrading to the paid
version at one point. I eventually switched from Netscape to Firefox.

[snip]

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:09:25 -0700, RH Breener wrote:

Hi, I recently bought a new HP PC (64bit) with W-7. It came with a really
bad email software called WindowsLiveMail that will not work for me.

Count your blessings.

I tried Thunderbird and don't care for it at all.

If you say what you don't like, people might be able to suggest
something that wouldn't have those disadvantages for you.

Personally, I struggled with Pegasus for a long time, and Thunderbird
has been a breath of fresh air.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:07:07 -0400, Big Steel wrote:

Just use Thunderbird it is free.

How is that helpful?

You must have missed the part where the OP said "I tried Thunderbird
and don't care for it at all", though he gave no reasons.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

RH Breener wrote:
Hi, I recently bought a new HP PC (64bit) with W-7. It came with a really
bad email software called WindowsLiveMail that will not work for me. There
is no way to set a rule to keep large files from downloading as in
WindowsMail. I don't have unlimited Internet downloads. I can't find Send
& Recieve either. I can't find any way to show the size of downloaded
mail.
I tried Thunderbird and don't care for it at all. How can I get a copy of
WindowsMail or even OutlookExpress on W-7? I don't or want an email
program
that has all the bells and whistles I don't need or care about.

Is there some way I can get WindowsMail to work on W-7?


Found an interesting tidbit in Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Mail

"Windows 7

It is found in a folder titled 'Windows Mail', but it is unused.
Windows Mail can be re-enabled in Windows 7, but the file itself
is hidden and doesn't load anything at all. Look on http://www.sevenforums.com/
for information on re-enabling WinMail.exe."

I found the tutorial here.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...dows-mail.html

That looks complicated enough, I'd do a "System Image" of my
Windows 7 partitions, before trying it. Then, if you get in
trouble, recovery is painless.

And if you get it working, there are web pages for setup.

http://www.sfsu.edu/~helpdesk/email/WindowsMail/

Paul

On 18 Jun 2012, Big Steel
wrote in alt.windows7.general:

Just use Thunderbird it is free.

Just use punctuation. It is free.