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What is the most common Screen Size and Color Depth (forpanopticlick)



 
 
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Old January 24th 15, 01:49 AM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
Madison James
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Default What is the most common Screen Size and Color Depth (forpanopticlick)

I want to be as neutral as possible when posting to political forums.
I use Panopticlick as my test of my browser fingerprint.

I am working on changing that fingerprint, and one change is my reported
"Screen Size and Color Depth"

Here are all the viable screen sizes and color depths
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_display_standard

Just before I log into the political forums, I want to temporarily
set mine to the most common there is out there today.

But what is the most common Screen Size and Color Depth today?

Is it "1024x768x24" or "1366x768" or "1280x1024" or ?
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Old January 24th 15, 02:00 AM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
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Default What is the most common Screen Size and Color Depth (for panopticlick)

In article , ,
Madison James says...

I want to be as neutral as possible when posting to political forums.
I use Panopticlick as my test of my browser fingerprint.

I am working on changing that fingerprint, and one change is my reported
"Screen Size and Color Depth"

Here are all the viable screen sizes and color depths
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_display_standard

Just before I log into the political forums, I want to temporarily
set mine to the most common there is out there today.

But what is the most common Screen Size and Color Depth today?

Is it "1024x768x24" or "1366x768" or "1280x1024" or ?


1920 x 1080 seems to be a common res today. This is, of *course*, a
widescreen format - 16:9 - as opposed to the "old" square "TV" format,
4:3

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Old January 24th 15, 02:19 AM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
Paul
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Default What is the most common Screen Size and Color Depth (for panopticlick)

Madison James wrote:
I want to be as neutral as possible when posting to political forums.
I use Panopticlick as my test of my browser fingerprint.

I am working on changing that fingerprint, and one change is my reported
"Screen Size and Color Depth"

Here are all the viable screen sizes and color depths
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_display_standard

Just before I log into the political forums, I want to temporarily
set mine to the most common there is out there today.

But what is the most common Screen Size and Color Depth today?

Is it "1024x768x24" or "1366x768" or "1280x1024" or ?


The reported value may not be the screen
resolution, but the dimensions of the browser
window.

You will become dizzy, if you attempt to trace down
"exactly what you're supposed to send".

https://www.mail-archive.com/tor-bug.../msg66751.html

Paul
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Old January 24th 15, 03:07 AM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
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Default What is the most common Screen Size and Color Depth (forpanopticlick)

Paul wrote, on Fri, 23 Jan 2015 20:19:02 -0500:

https://www.mail-archive.com/tor-bug.../msg66751.html


Something is odd indeed!

After reading that interesting bug report, I installed the tor browser
and then checked results at panopticlick with the menu bar enabled:
Screen Size and Color Depth=1000x867x24

I then added the bookmarks toolbar, and tried again with another session:
Screen Size and Color Depth=1000x835x24

Then I disabled both bars and tried again with another TBB session:
Screen Size and Color Depth=1000x900x24

I tried the same trick with a "normal" Firefox session, after setting the
firefox window manually to the same size as that last test above:
Screen Size and Color Depth=1280x1024x24

I tried adding the menu bar and bookmarks toolbar, but the results stayed
the same for the "normal" Firefox window.

So, it seems that the Tor browser bundle reports the actual size of the
tor window (which is a good thing) while the normal Firefox reports the
size of the display (which is a bad thing).





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Old January 24th 15, 01:01 PM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
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On 24/01/15 03:07, Sage wrote:
Paul wrote, on Fri, 23 Jan 2015 20:19:02 -0500:

https://www.mail-archive.com/tor-bug.../msg66751.html


Something is odd indeed!

After reading that interesting bug report, I installed the tor browser
and then checked results at panopticlick with the menu bar enabled:
Screen Size and Color Depth=1000x867x24

I then added the bookmarks toolbar, and tried again with another session:
Screen Size and Color Depth=1000x835x24

Then I disabled both bars and tried again with another TBB session:
Screen Size and Color Depth=1000x900x24

I tried the same trick with a "normal" Firefox session, after setting the
firefox window manually to the same size as that last test above:
Screen Size and Color Depth=1280x1024x24

I tried adding the menu bar and bookmarks toolbar, but the results stayed
the same for the "normal" Firefox window.

So, it seems that the Tor browser bundle reports the actual size of the
tor window (which is a good thing) while the normal Firefox reports the
size of the display (which is a bad thing).


The Tor browser is reporting the canvas size, this can leak information
that you have extra bars installed and of course make you more unique as
not everyone has the same bars installed but many have their windows
maximized.

Reporting a viewport size makes you less unique as it will be the same
for everyone with similar setup (which is not equal) and you will not
see if there is some extra toolbar installed from the size.

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Old January 24th 15, 04:29 PM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
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Default What is the most common Screen Size and Color Depth (for panopticlick)

|I want to be as neutral as possible when posting to political forums.
| I use Panopticlick as my test of my browser fingerprint.
|

What do you mean by posting to political forums?
If you're posting comments then what does your
screen size matter?

For webpages, the standard these days is to
make the basic page 1000px wide and center it.
(Well designed pages are self-sizing.)
But that doesn't mean 1024 is the most common.
It's more like the lowest common denominator
for desktops/laptops. A 1000px webpage with
a band of gray left and right looks OK on 1600px
width, but the reverse is not true.

Also note, screen size is not necessarily browser
window size. My screen is about 21" wide, at
1280x720. My eyes are getting old. I like lots
of space and to have things big. I keep the
browser at about 800px. I don't want to have to
actually move my head back and forth to read
a line of text. And on most websites these days,
the right 200 px is just ads and/or superfluous
links. I rarely need to scroll to the right side.

All of that is just to say that it's very difficult
to come up with a standard for anything online,
including page size, colors, layout. There are
numerous factors that affect what people actually
see. And if you're using Linux or a Mac then you're
already seeing something notably different from
what 90%+ of the Desktop computers online are
displaying.


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Old January 24th 15, 04:41 PM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 13:01:35 +0100, J.O. Aho wrote:

The Tor browser is reporting the canvas size, this can leak information
that you have extra bars installed and of course make you more unique as
not everyone has the same bars installed but many have their windows
maximized.


That's interesting in that it shows how many toolbars, in effect, you
have enabled.

Does this "canvas size" concept include the window borders?
By that, I mean, if I size my window, does it change the canvas size?
Or is the canvas size only dependent on the number of toolbars visible?

Reporting a viewport size makes you less unique as it will be the same
for everyone with similar setup (which is not equal) and you will not
see if there is some extra toolbar installed from the size.


I understand what you're saying, but it's a LOT harder to change the
screen resolution than it is to change your browser window size.

Ask me how I know.
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Old January 24th 15, 04:41 PM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
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Default What is the most common Screen Size and Color Depth (for panopticlick)

In article , Mayayana
wrote:


All of that is just to say that it's very difficult
to come up with a standard for anything online,
including page size, colors, layout. There are
numerous factors that affect what people actually
see. And if you're using Linux or a Mac then you're
already seeing something notably different from
what 90%+ of the Desktop computers online are
displaying.


complete nonsense.
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Old January 24th 15, 04:47 PM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
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In article , victor davis
wrote:

Reporting a viewport size makes you less unique as it will be the same
for everyone with similar setup (which is not equal) and you will not
see if there is some extra toolbar installed from the size.


I understand what you're saying, but it's a LOT harder to change the
screen resolution than it is to change your browser window size.


not really and you're also assuming only one screen.

Ask me how I know.


no.
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Old January 24th 15, 05:22 PM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 10:29:52 -0500, Mayayana wrote:

If you're posting comments then what does your screen size matter?


You're totally missing the entire point.

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Old January 24th 15, 05:28 PM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
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Default What is the most common Screen Size and Color Depth (for panopticlick)

Mayayana wrote:
|I want to be as neutral as possible when posting to political forums.
| I use Panopticlick as my test of my browser fingerprint.
|

What do you mean by posting to political forums?
If you're posting comments then what does your
screen size matter?


Anonymity is enhanced by having a commonly-used profile, and your
profile includes screen size and colour depth as reported by the browser.

[snipped the rest - I think you missed the point]


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Old January 24th 15, 05:49 PM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
Mayayana
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| What do you mean by posting to political forums?
| If you're posting comments then what does your
| screen size matter?
|
| Anonymity is enhanced by having a commonly-used profile, and your
| profile includes screen size and colour depth as reported by the browser.
|

Ah. I did, indeed, miss the point. Thanks.
Interesting that so many other people
understood right off. We must have more
than a few rabble rousers here.

In that case, to the OP, you might want
to take a look at extensions like Secret Agent
for Firefox, which allows you to rotate userAgent
and spoof such things as Accept headers that
are now being explored as a way to provide
unique IDs for site visitors.


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Old January 24th 15, 09:23 PM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
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nospam wrote, on Sat, 24 Jan 2015 10:47:01 -0500:

not really and you're also assuming only one screen.


What does panopticlick.eff.org report when you have more than 1 screen?
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Old January 24th 15, 09:25 PM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
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nospam wrote, on Sat, 24 Jan 2015 10:41:27 -0500:

complete nonsense.


I have to agree with nospam here.

There are percentages out there.
All you want is to be mixed in with the crowd.

Find the biggest crowd you can, with respect to "reported" screen
dimensions (and other things), and you're that much safer from
fingerprinting.

Percentages can be found here, but no report is perfect, so, take
the charts with a grain of salt as mere overview percentages.

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_Display.asp

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Old January 24th 15, 09:49 PM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
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| complete nonsense.
|
| I have to agree with nospam here.
|
| There are percentages out there.
| All you want is to be mixed in with the crowd.
|

If you read the other posts you'll see that I
had misunderstood what the OP was asking
about.

You're also concerned with privacy from
govt agencies? If so, and if you go so far as to
install Tor, I wonder why you enable javascript.
Much of what you're worried about cannot be
sent without javascript.
Try disabling script and then going to panopticlick.
Without script it's pretty much down to userAgent
(easily spoofed) and accept headers, which can be
altered by some extensions. Presumably the main
function of Tor is to hide your IP address. But if
you're allowing script (or worse, Flash) you're leaving
other doors open, including the risk of driveby
download tracking.



 




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