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Old January 3rd 16, 07:15 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Who do you trust on the internet nowadays
http://www.av-comparatives.org/wp-co...ng_2014_en.pdf




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Old January 3rd 16, 08:31 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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.. . .winston wrote:

Who do you trust on the internet nowadays
http://www.av-comparatives.org/wp-co...ng_2014_en.pdf


I can't answer that.

I'm being watched.

Jim
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Old January 3rd 16, 08:41 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Paul wrote on 01/03/2016 2:31 AM:
. . .winston wrote:

Who do you trust on the internet nowadays
http://www.av-comparatives.org/wp-co...ng_2014_en.pdf



I can't answer that.

I'm being watched.

Jim




Join the club.

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Old January 3rd 16, 10:31 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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.. . .winston wrote on 2016/01/03:

Who do you trust on the internet nowadays
http://www.av-comparatives.org/wp-co...ng_2014_en.pdf


The only ones scared by the spreadsheet are those that have not a clue
how their anti-virus software works. Lots of the transmitted data is to
provide up you updates: your OS, its version, what language, what AV
version you have (so it knows if there is a program update), what sig
database version you have (so it knows what next update to offer), and
so on. That this spreadsheet says your IP address gets identified just
shows how stupid is a user that thinks that is terrible. Obviously ANY
connection you make anywhere, like to check and get updates, will have
to know your IP address; else, how the hell would they know to where to
deliver that data?

Then there is the info about files on your host. Well, if you don't
want to include cloud-based checking of yet-unknown files to have them
analyzed online then disable that feature. For example, Avast has its
sandbox (Deepscan) with the feature that unknown files are tested online
for deeper analysis. If you don't want that then turn it off. EVERY
anti-virus program that incorporates some cloud-based services will be
sending files to their analysis mechanism (for current or subsequent
testing on the unknown file). If you don't want the AV program to
further test unknown files then don't.

If you don't want the product to send info about which URLs you have
visited then disable its blacklist feature. Do without the malicious
site blacklist. Do without analyzing the web page. You'll probably
have to disable all the AV program's web interrogation features.

All the AV programs that I've trialed or used had an option to disable
sharing your detections (via "community" data sharing). Disable the
community option if you don't want the AV program to report what it has
found, data used to determine where are the most infections, on what
hosts, in which countries, etc. Don't give them any logistics if you
fear that anonymous data is helping them too much.

If you don't want all that data getting sent to the AV vendor then
disable it. You still won't be disable what they need to know to ensure
they send you the proper program updates.
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Old January 3rd 16, 02:52 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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.. . .winston drunk-dialed this one:

Who do you trust on the internet nowadays


Yeah... *YOU* are on the internets all the time claiming you know what you're
talking about and claiming to be the MVP of doodie-diapers smarty-pants...

'Nuff said!

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Old January 3rd 16, 02:53 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Paul posted this via :

. . .winston wrote:

Who do you trust on the internet nowadays
http://www.av-comparatives.org/wp-co...avc_datasendin
g_2014_en.pdf


I can't answer that.

I'm being watched.

Jim


My AV apps are spying on me for the black-suits. LOL!

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Old January 3rd 16, 02:56 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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.. . .winston leetle gurly posted this one:

Join the club.


Nobody else but *YOU* would wear a tuu-tuu and feather boa
to be a member of your leetle st00pid "club".

You should join a club where they meet for an hour and talk
to each other about how their meds are working out for them.

HTH.

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Old January 3rd 16, 03:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 1/3/2016 9:53 PM, Bucky Breeder wrote:

My AV apps are spying on me for the black-suits. LOL!


With guns concealed?

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Old January 3rd 16, 04:30 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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". . .winston" wrote in message
...

Who do you trust on the internet nowadays
http://www.av-comparatives.org/wp-co...ng_2014_en.pdf


Viruses are now officially to be considered dead – until further notice.
Our research in the most spread malware categories earlier this year
revealed that only 0.2% of the total infections happen to be from viruses.
http://tinyurl.com/nvmufjp


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Old January 3rd 16, 04:44 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2016-01-03 1:15 AM, . . .winston wrote:

Who do you trust on the internet nowadays
http://www.av-comparatives.org/wp-co...4/avc_datasend

ing_2014_en.pdf

Another

reason to avoid using third-party anti-viruses altogether and
rely on Windows Defender (as well as Malwarebytes' free scanner if
ever there is a doubt).

For my part, a weekly imaging of my system and UAC being set all the
way to the top is more than enough protection.


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Old January 3rd 16, 05:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Sun, 03 Jan 2016 01:15:37 -0500, . . .winston wrote:

Who do you trust on the internet nowadays
http://www.av-comparatives.org/wp-co...loads/2014/04/

avc_datasending_2014_en.pdf

Sensitive data should be secured using encryption, I use VeraCrypt and
AESCrypt, the latter because I share files between Linux and Windows.
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Old January 3rd 16, 10:43 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2016-01-03, Live wrote:
Viruses are now officially to be considered dead – until further notice.


The typical non-technical user has no knowledge of the distinctions between
different types of malware and refers to any unwanted crap that manages to
get into their PC as a "virus" - even if they themselves installed it.

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Old January 4th 16, 12:51 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Roger Blake wrote on 2016/01/03:

Live wrote:

Viruses are now officially to be considered dead – until further notice.


The typical non-technical user has no knowledge of the distinctions between
different types of malware and refers to any unwanted crap that manages to
get into their PC as a "virus" - even if they themselves installed it.


My experience with ransomware and zombieware (installed by others that I
have to cleanup) is that the user was lured into installing it. They
hit a site that tells them they are infected. The boobs believe it and
install the malware. The major security vulnerability of a general-
purpose OS is the user. Because computers are sold to everyone,
gullibles are included (and the same reason why spam continues).
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Old January 4th 16, 01:38 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 03/01/2016 16:44, Slimer wrote:
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On 2016-01-03 1:15 AM, . . .winston wrote:

Who do you trust on the internet nowadays
http://www.av-comparatives.org/wp-co...4/avc_datasend

ing_2014_en.pdf

Another reason to avoid using third-party anti-viruses altogether and
rely on Windows Defender


WD used to have a poor detection rate compared to most third-party
antivirus programs. Unless that's changed recently, it's a very basic
protection.

(as well as Malwarebytes' free scanner if
ever there is a doubt).


I use MB myself, as a malware scanner, but if ever there is a doubt I
would ask for second and third opinions: www.virustotal.com makes a good
starting point.


For my part, a weekly imaging of my system


How does that block a threat?

and UAC being set all the
way to the top is more than enough protection.


UAC being set all the way to the top is fine, but not enough.

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Old January 4th 16, 02:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 03/01/2016 17:39, Dave C wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jan 2016 01:15:37 -0500, . . .winston wrote:

Who do you trust on the internet nowadays
http://www.av-comparatives.org/wp-co...loads/2014/04/

avc_datasending_2014_en.pdf

Sensitive data should be secured using encryption, I use VeraCrypt and
AESCrypt, the latter because I share files between Linux and Windows.


Looks like you can use Veracrypt on Linux too
https://veracrypt.codeplex.com/releases/view/616110

 




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