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  #1  
Old September 4th 18, 10:41 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.homebuilt
Terry Pinnell[_3_]
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Default Any maximised window is larger than my screen

For many years I've assumed that the subject issue, described below, was
a flaw unique to my particular monitors, a succession of iiyama models,
always 1920 x 1200, my preferred resolution.

But I was wrong, because I've just replaced my 24" iiyama Prolite
E2403WS with a 24" Dell U2415 ...and it has exactly the same bizarre
behaviour. If I maximise any window (an application, a folder, whatever)
its size becomes 1936 x 1186 and its position -8, -8.

I use two utilities to report window size/position: AHK Windows Info
1.7, and Macro Express Pro. But I expect there are many more.

Perhaps it only happens with 1920 x 1200 screens? Anyone able to try it
with the more prolific 1920 x 1080 please?

Any insights as to why this occurs? If others with a screen of any
resolution cannot reproduce, what obscure setting of my setup could
cause it?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK
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  #2  
Old September 4th 18, 10:56 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.homebuilt
GS
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Default Any maximised window is larger than my screen

For many years I've assumed that the subject issue, described below, was
a flaw unique to my particular monitors, a succession of iiyama models,
always 1920 x 1200, my preferred resolution.

But I was wrong, because I've just replaced my 24" iiyama Prolite
E2403WS with a 24" Dell U2415 ...and it has exactly the same bizarre
behaviour. If I maximise any window (an application, a folder, whatever)
its size becomes 1936 x 1186 and its position -8, -8.

I use two utilities to report window size/position: AHK Windows Info
1.7, and Macro Express Pro. But I expect there are many more.

Perhaps it only happens with 1920 x 1200 screens? Anyone able to try it
with the more prolific 1920 x 1080 please?

Any insights as to why this occurs? If others with a screen of any
resolution cannot reproduce, what obscure setting of my setup could
cause it?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK


Does both your monitor AND Graphics card support 1920x1200 res? I used to use
that same res many years ago, but the newer hardware & graphics adapters don't
semm to support that anymore.

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  #3  
Old September 5th 18, 05:25 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.homebuilt
Paul[_32_]
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Default Any maximised window is larger than my screen

Terry Pinnell wrote:
For many years I've assumed that the subject issue, described below, was
a flaw unique to my particular monitors, a succession of iiyama models,
always 1920 x 1200, my preferred resolution.

But I was wrong, because I've just replaced my 24" iiyama Prolite
E2403WS with a 24" Dell U2415 ...and it has exactly the same bizarre
behaviour. If I maximise any window (an application, a folder, whatever)
its size becomes 1936 x 1186 and its position -8, -8.

I use two utilities to report window size/position: AHK Windows Info
1.7, and Macro Express Pro. But I expect there are many more.

Perhaps it only happens with 1920 x 1200 screens? Anyone able to try it
with the more prolific 1920 x 1080 please?

Any insights as to why this occurs? If others with a screen of any
resolution cannot reproduce, what obscure setting of my setup could
cause it?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK


What happens if you change the borderwidth setting ?

https://www.askvg.com/registry-tweak...-in-windows-8/

I checked my other machine here, and it basically does
the same as yours. I run 1440x900, and if a window is
maximized, some of the border is outside the screen
area (could well be -8,-8). But not enough border,
that the "X" isn't fully visible. It's like they
still respect the decorations.

Paul
  #4  
Old September 5th 18, 07:17 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Terry Pinnell[_3_]
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Default Any maximised window is larger than my screen

GS wrote:

For many years I've assumed that the subject issue, described below, was
a flaw unique to my particular monitors, a succession of iiyama models,
always 1920 x 1200, my preferred resolution.

But I was wrong, because I've just replaced my 24" iiyama Prolite
E2403WS with a 24" Dell U2415 ...and it has exactly the same bizarre
behaviour. If I maximise any window (an application, a folder, whatever)
its size becomes 1936 x 1186 and its position -8, -8.

I use two utilities to report window size/position: AHK Windows Info
1.7, and Macro Express Pro. But I expect there are many more.

Perhaps it only happens with 1920 x 1200 screens? Anyone able to try it
with the more prolific 1920 x 1080 please?

Any insights as to why this occurs? If others with a screen of any
resolution cannot reproduce, what obscure setting of my setup could
cause it?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK


Does both your monitor AND Graphics card support 1920x1200 res? I used to use
that same res many years ago, but the newer hardware & graphics adapters don't
semm to support that anymore.


No graphics card here, my PC uses its built-in Intel HD Graphics 530.

What size are your maximised windows?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK
  #5  
Old September 5th 18, 07:55 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.homebuilt
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Default Any maximised window is larger than my screen

On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 22:41:10 +0100, Terry Pinnell wrote:

For many years I've assumed that the subject issue, described below, was
a flaw unique to my particular monitors, a succession of iiyama models,
always 1920 x 1200, my preferred resolution.

But I was wrong, because I've just replaced my 24" iiyama Prolite
E2403WS with a 24" Dell U2415 ...and it has exactly the same bizarre
behaviour. If I maximise any window (an application, a folder, whatever)
its size becomes 1936 x 1186 and its position -8, -8.

I use two utilities to report window size/position: AHK Windows Info
1.7, and Macro Express Pro. But I expect there are many more.

Perhaps it only happens with 1920 x 1200 screens? Anyone able to try it
with the more prolific 1920 x 1080 please?

Any insights as to why this occurs? If others with a screen of any
resolution cannot reproduce, what obscure setting of my setup could
cause it?



That is perfectly normal.

When the window is maximized, it does not need its draggable frame
borders which are used to resize the window. So the draggable window
frame borders (8 pixels wide for you) are placed just off the edges of
the screen. That lets the main part of the window (inside the frame
borders) occupy the full 1020x1080.

This will happen with any screen size.


--
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Ralph
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Old September 5th 18, 08:08 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.homebuilt
Terry Pinnell[_3_]
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Default Any maximised window is larger than my screen

Paul wrote:

Terry Pinnell wrote:
For many years I've assumed that the subject issue, described below, was
a flaw unique to my particular monitors, a succession of iiyama models,
always 1920 x 1200, my preferred resolution.

But I was wrong, because I've just replaced my 24" iiyama Prolite
E2403WS with a 24" Dell U2415 ...and it has exactly the same bizarre
behaviour. If I maximise any window (an application, a folder, whatever)
its size becomes 1936 x 1186 and its position -8, -8.

I use two utilities to report window size/position: AHK Windows Info
1.7, and Macro Express Pro. But I expect there are many more.

Perhaps it only happens with 1920 x 1200 screens? Anyone able to try it
with the more prolific 1920 x 1080 please?

Any insights as to why this occurs? If others with a screen of any
resolution cannot reproduce, what obscure setting of my setup could
cause it?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK


What happens if you change the borderwidth setting ?

https://www.askvg.com/registry-tweak...-in-windows-8/

I checked my other machine here, and it basically does
the same as yours. I run 1440x900, and if a window is
maximized, some of the border is outside the screen
area (could well be -8,-8). But not enough border,
that the "X" isn't fully visible. It's like they
still respect the decorations.

Paul


Thanks for testing it and for the suggested experiment, which I tried.

In the registry I temporarily changed Border Width from -15 to 0 and
Padded Border Width from -60 to 0. This took effect visually at once
....but the quirk remained unchanged: maximised size still 1936 x 1186.

My guess is that it's probably widespread but most users are never aware
of it. It's significant only for those like me, who use macros or other
scripts which sometimes depend on precise pixel positions.

But it's no big deal for me in practice. Among the various macros I use
to set any window's size and position I have one which maximises to 1920
x 1172 (allowing for the height of the permanent taskbar).

Nevertheless I'm curious about its cause or purpose, now that I know
it's not unique to me or to a particular monitor manufacturer.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK
  #7  
Old September 5th 18, 11:36 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Neil
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Default Any maximised window is larger than my screen

On 9/5/2018 2:17 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
GS wrote:

For many years I've assumed that the subject issue, described below, was
a flaw unique to my particular monitors, a succession of iiyama models,
always 1920 x 1200, my preferred resolution.

But I was wrong, because I've just replaced my 24" iiyama Prolite
E2403WS with a 24" Dell U2415 ...and it has exactly the same bizarre
behaviour. If I maximise any window (an application, a folder, whatever)
its size becomes 1936 x 1186 and its position -8, -8.

I use two utilities to report window size/position: AHK Windows Info
1.7, and Macro Express Pro. But I expect there are many more.

Perhaps it only happens with 1920 x 1200 screens? Anyone able to try it
with the more prolific 1920 x 1080 please?

Any insights as to why this occurs? If others with a screen of any
resolution cannot reproduce, what obscure setting of my setup could
cause it?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK


Does both your monitor AND Graphics card support 1920x1200 res? I used to use
that same res many years ago, but the newer hardware & graphics adapters don't
semm to support that anymore.


No graphics card here, my PC uses its built-in Intel HD Graphics 530.

Whether using a graphics card or built-in chip, the issues are the same.
Your drivers have to support the same resolution as you're using for the
monitor or something will be off. From what you've written, it seems
that the graphics chip resolution is 1936 x 1186, which would mean that
the maximized window would be wider than but not as tall as the screen.

--
best regards,

Neil
  #8  
Old September 5th 18, 12:58 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Terry Pinnell[_3_]
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Default Any maximised window is larger than my screen

Neil wrote:

On 9/5/2018 2:17 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
GS wrote:

For many years I've assumed that the subject issue, described below, was
a flaw unique to my particular monitors, a succession of iiyama models,
always 1920 x 1200, my preferred resolution.

But I was wrong, because I've just replaced my 24" iiyama Prolite
E2403WS with a 24" Dell U2415 ...and it has exactly the same bizarre
behaviour. If I maximise any window (an application, a folder, whatever)
its size becomes 1936 x 1186 and its position -8, -8.

I use two utilities to report window size/position: AHK Windows Info
1.7, and Macro Express Pro. But I expect there are many more.

Perhaps it only happens with 1920 x 1200 screens? Anyone able to try it
with the more prolific 1920 x 1080 please?

Any insights as to why this occurs? If others with a screen of any
resolution cannot reproduce, what obscure setting of my setup could
cause it?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Does both your monitor AND Graphics card support 1920x1200 res? I used to use
that same res many years ago, but the newer hardware & graphics adapters don't
semm to support that anymore.


No graphics card here, my PC uses its built-in Intel HD Graphics 530.

Whether using a graphics card or built-in chip, the issues are the same.
Your drivers have to support the same resolution as you're using for the
monitor or something will be off. From what you've written, it seems
that the graphics chip resolution is 1936 x 1186, which would mean that
the maximized window would be wider than but not as tall as the screen.


The graphics resolution is 1920 x 1200.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK
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Old September 5th 18, 01:09 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.homebuilt
Terry Pinnell[_3_]
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Ralph Fox wrote:

On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 22:41:10 +0100, Terry Pinnell wrote:

For many years I've assumed that the subject issue, described below, was
a flaw unique to my particular monitors, a succession of iiyama models,
always 1920 x 1200, my preferred resolution.

But I was wrong, because I've just replaced my 24" iiyama Prolite
E2403WS with a 24" Dell U2415 ...and it has exactly the same bizarre
behaviour. If I maximise any window (an application, a folder, whatever)
its size becomes 1936 x 1186 and its position -8, -8.

I use two utilities to report window size/position: AHK Windows Info
1.7, and Macro Express Pro. But I expect there are many more.

Perhaps it only happens with 1920 x 1200 screens? Anyone able to try it
with the more prolific 1920 x 1080 please?

Any insights as to why this occurs? If others with a screen of any
resolution cannot reproduce, what obscure setting of my setup could
cause it?



That is perfectly normal.

When the window is maximized, it does not need its draggable frame
borders which are used to resize the window. So the draggable window
frame borders (8 pixels wide for you) are placed just off the edges of
the screen. That lets the main part of the window (inside the frame
borders) occupy the full 1020x1080.

This will happen with any screen size.


Thanks Ralph, mystery solved.

Personally I like being able to drag the sides or corners of a window at
any time, and particularly when it's maximised. With this current
functionality, that needs one extra click on the Restore icon, before
the drag. And, depending on the preceding size and position, the restore
won't necessarily be to the new requirement.

Hence my macro to 'maximise to screen size.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK
  #10  
Old September 5th 18, 01:33 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Any maximised window is larger than my screen

Neil wrote:
On 9/5/2018 2:17 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
GS wrote:

For many years I've assumed that the subject issue, described below,
was
a flaw unique to my particular monitors, a succession of iiyama models,
always 1920 x 1200, my preferred resolution.

But I was wrong, because I've just replaced my 24" iiyama Prolite
E2403WS with a 24" Dell U2415 ...and it has exactly the same bizarre
behaviour. If I maximise any window (an application, a folder,
whatever)
its size becomes 1936 x 1186 and its position -8, -8.

I use two utilities to report window size/position: AHK Windows Info
1.7, and Macro Express Pro. But I expect there are many more.

Perhaps it only happens with 1920 x 1200 screens? Anyone able to try it
with the more prolific 1920 x 1080 please?

Any insights as to why this occurs? If others with a screen of any
resolution cannot reproduce, what obscure setting of my setup could
cause it?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Does both your monitor AND Graphics card support 1920x1200 res? I
used to use
that same res many years ago, but the newer hardware & graphics
adapters don't
semm to support that anymore.


No graphics card here, my PC uses its built-in Intel HD Graphics 530.

Whether using a graphics card or built-in chip, the issues are the same.
Your drivers have to support the same resolution as you're using for the
monitor or something will be off. From what you've written, it seems
that the graphics chip resolution is 1936 x 1186, which would mean that
the maximized window would be wider than but not as tall as the screen.


But that's not what his specialized utilities are reporting.

They're reporting window dimensions. Not screen resolution
setting.

And it's possible for a desktop environment to have a
larger coordinate space, than you can see at any one time.

A window can be an off-screen buffer, unconstrained by
graphics hardware. When it's "rendered" or composited,
a viewport clips the excess materials at that point in time.

The only thing that's constrained in his setup, is the
panel in the LCD monitor, has precisely 1920x1200
visible pixels. And that can't be changed. But a lot of
other things are quite flexible.

Paul
  #11  
Old September 5th 18, 03:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Neil
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On 9/5/2018 8:33 AM, Paul wrote:
Neil wrote:
On 9/5/2018 2:17 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
GS wrote:

For many years I've assumed that the subject issue, described
below, was
a flaw unique to my particular monitors, a succession of iiyama
models,
always 1920 x 1200, my preferred resolution.

But I was wrong, because I've just replaced my 24" iiyama Prolite
E2403WS with a 24" Dell U2415 ...and it has exactly the same bizarre
behaviour. If I maximise any window (an application, a folder,
whatever)
its size becomes 1936 x 1186 and its position -8, -8.

I use two utilities to report window size/position: AHK Windows Info
1.7, and Macro Express Pro. But I expect there are many more.

Perhaps it only happens with 1920 x 1200 screens? Anyone able to
try it
with the more prolific 1920 x 1080 please?

Any insights as to why this occurs? If others with a screen of any
resolution cannot reproduce, what obscure setting of my setup could
cause it?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Does both your monitor AND Graphics card support 1920x1200 res? I
used to use
that same res many years ago, but the newer hardware & graphics
adapters don't
semm to support that anymore.

No graphics card here, my PC uses its built-in Intel HD Graphics 530.

Whether using a graphics card or built-in chip, the issues are the
same. Your drivers have to support the same resolution as you're using
for the monitor or something will be off. From what you've written, it
seems that the graphics chip resolution is 1936 x 1186, which would
mean that the maximized window would be wider than but not as tall as
the screen.


But that's not what his specialized utilities are reporting.

They're reporting window dimensions. Not screen resolution
setting.

And it's possible for a desktop environment to have a
larger coordinate space, than you can see at any one time.

A window can be an off-screen buffer, unconstrained by
graphics hardware. When it's "rendered" or composited,
a viewport clips the excess materials at that point in time.

The only thing that's constrained in his setup, is the
panel in the LCD monitor, has precisely 1920x1200
visible pixels. And that can't be changed. But a lot of
other things are quite flexible.

Â*Â* Paul

Yes, the availability of workspace larger than the screen size is not
new. In that case there are scroll bars to access that additional space.
I didn't get the impression that this was Terry's issue because of the
odd size he reported for a maximized screen and he didn't mention scroll
bars.

Also, his reply to my post states that the graphics resolution is also
1920 x 1200, so a maximized app should not exceed those dimensions under
normal circumstances. So, that suggests some other source of the problem.

--
best regards,

Neil
  #12  
Old September 5th 18, 03:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Neil
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On 9/5/2018 7:58 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
Neil wrote:

On 9/5/2018 2:17 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
GS wrote:

For many years I've assumed that the subject issue, described below, was
a flaw unique to my particular monitors, a succession of iiyama models,
always 1920 x 1200, my preferred resolution.

But I was wrong, because I've just replaced my 24" iiyama Prolite
E2403WS with a 24" Dell U2415 ...and it has exactly the same bizarre
behaviour. If I maximise any window (an application, a folder, whatever)
its size becomes 1936 x 1186 and its position -8, -8.

I use two utilities to report window size/position: AHK Windows Info
1.7, and Macro Express Pro. But I expect there are many more.

Perhaps it only happens with 1920 x 1200 screens? Anyone able to try it
with the more prolific 1920 x 1080 please?

Any insights as to why this occurs? If others with a screen of any
resolution cannot reproduce, what obscure setting of my setup could
cause it?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Does both your monitor AND Graphics card support 1920x1200 res? I used to use
that same res many years ago, but the newer hardware & graphics adapters don't
semm to support that anymore.

No graphics card here, my PC uses its built-in Intel HD Graphics 530.

Whether using a graphics card or built-in chip, the issues are the same.
Your drivers have to support the same resolution as you're using for the
monitor or something will be off. From what you've written, it seems
that the graphics chip resolution is 1936 x 1186, which would mean that
the maximized window would be wider than but not as tall as the screen.


The graphics resolution is 1920 x 1200.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

If both your graphics resolution and monitor resolution are the same, a
maximized app should not exceed those dimensions. Something else is
defining the resolution. Are you using a 3rd party UI on your computer?

--
best regards,

Neil
  #13  
Old September 5th 18, 03:33 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Terry Pinnell[_3_]
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Default Any maximised window is larger than my screen

Neil wrote:

On 9/5/2018 8:33 AM, Paul wrote:
Neil wrote:
On 9/5/2018 2:17 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
GS wrote:

For many years I've assumed that the subject issue, described
below, was
a flaw unique to my particular monitors, a succession of iiyama
models,
always 1920 x 1200, my preferred resolution.

But I was wrong, because I've just replaced my 24" iiyama Prolite
E2403WS with a 24" Dell U2415 ...and it has exactly the same bizarre
behaviour. If I maximise any window (an application, a folder,
whatever)
its size becomes 1936 x 1186 and its position -8, -8.

I use two utilities to report window size/position: AHK Windows Info
1.7, and Macro Express Pro. But I expect there are many more.

Perhaps it only happens with 1920 x 1200 screens? Anyone able to
try it
with the more prolific 1920 x 1080 please?

Any insights as to why this occurs? If others with a screen of any
resolution cannot reproduce, what obscure setting of my setup could
cause it?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Does both your monitor AND Graphics card support 1920x1200 res? I
used to use
that same res many years ago, but the newer hardware & graphics
adapters don't
semm to support that anymore.

No graphics card here, my PC uses its built-in Intel HD Graphics 530.

Whether using a graphics card or built-in chip, the issues are the
same. Your drivers have to support the same resolution as you're using
for the monitor or something will be off. From what you've written, it
seems that the graphics chip resolution is 1936 x 1186, which would
mean that the maximized window would be wider than but not as tall as
the screen.


But that's not what his specialized utilities are reporting.

They're reporting window dimensions. Not screen resolution
setting.

And it's possible for a desktop environment to have a
larger coordinate space, than you can see at any one time.

A window can be an off-screen buffer, unconstrained by
graphics hardware. When it's "rendered" or composited,
a viewport clips the excess materials at that point in time.

The only thing that's constrained in his setup, is the
panel in the LCD monitor, has precisely 1920x1200
visible pixels. And that can't be changed. But a lot of
other things are quite flexible.

** Paul

Yes, the availability of workspace larger than the screen size is not
new. In that case there are scroll bars to access that additional space.
I didn't get the impression that this was Terry's issue because of the
odd size he reported for a maximized screen and he didn't mention scroll
bars.

Also, his reply to my post states that the graphics resolution is also
1920 x 1200, so a maximized app should not exceed those dimensions under
normal circumstances. So, that suggests some other source of the problem.


You must have missed the solution from Ralph some seven hours ago Neil.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK
  #14  
Old September 5th 18, 03:42 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.homebuilt
Neil
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On 9/5/2018 8:09 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
Ralph Fox wrote:

On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 22:41:10 +0100, Terry Pinnell wrote:

For many years I've assumed that the subject issue, described below, was
a flaw unique to my particular monitors, a succession of iiyama models,
always 1920 x 1200, my preferred resolution.

But I was wrong, because I've just replaced my 24" iiyama Prolite
E2403WS with a 24" Dell U2415 ...and it has exactly the same bizarre
behaviour. If I maximise any window (an application, a folder, whatever)
its size becomes 1936 x 1186 and its position -8, -8.

I use two utilities to report window size/position: AHK Windows Info
1.7, and Macro Express Pro. But I expect there are many more.

Perhaps it only happens with 1920 x 1200 screens? Anyone able to try it
with the more prolific 1920 x 1080 please?

Any insights as to why this occurs? If others with a screen of any
resolution cannot reproduce, what obscure setting of my setup could
cause it?



That is perfectly normal.

When the window is maximized, it does not need its draggable frame
borders which are used to resize the window. So the draggable window
frame borders (8 pixels wide for you) are placed just off the edges of
the screen. That lets the main part of the window (inside the frame
borders) occupy the full 1020x1080.

This will happen with any screen size.


Thanks Ralph, mystery solved.

Personally I like being able to drag the sides or corners of a window at
any time, and particularly when it's maximised. With this current
functionality, that needs one extra click on the Restore icon, before
the drag. And, depending on the preceding size and position, the restore
won't necessarily be to the new requirement.

Hence my macro to 'maximise to screen size.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

It sounds to me that there are two separate matters being discussed.
When an app is maximized, it is indeed normal that one can't grab the
edges to resize it, an aspect that dates back to Windows 2.0 as I
recall. However, your stated app size is "...1936 x 1186...", which
means that one dimension of a maximized app is larger than your screen
size while the other is _smaller_ than your screen size. This sounds odd
to me.

--
best regards,

Neil
  #15  
Old September 5th 18, 03:45 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Neil
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On 9/5/2018 10:33 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
Neil wrote:

On 9/5/2018 8:33 AM, Paul wrote:
Neil wrote:
On 9/5/2018 2:17 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
GS wrote:

For many years I've assumed that the subject issue, described
below, was
a flaw unique to my particular monitors, a succession of iiyama
models,
always 1920 x 1200, my preferred resolution.

But I was wrong, because I've just replaced my 24" iiyama Prolite
E2403WS with a 24" Dell U2415 ...and it has exactly the same bizarre
behaviour. If I maximise any window (an application, a folder,
whatever)
its size becomes 1936 x 1186 and its position -8, -8.

I use two utilities to report window size/position: AHK Windows Info
1.7, and Macro Express Pro. But I expect there are many more.

Perhaps it only happens with 1920 x 1200 screens? Anyone able to
try it
with the more prolific 1920 x 1080 please?

Any insights as to why this occurs? If others with a screen of any
resolution cannot reproduce, what obscure setting of my setup could
cause it?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Does both your monitor AND Graphics card support 1920x1200 res? I
used to use
that same res many years ago, but the newer hardware & graphics
adapters don't
semm to support that anymore.

No graphics card here, my PC uses its built-in Intel HD Graphics 530.

Whether using a graphics card or built-in chip, the issues are the
same. Your drivers have to support the same resolution as you're using
for the monitor or something will be off. From what you've written, it
seems that the graphics chip resolution is 1936 x 1186, which would
mean that the maximized window would be wider than but not as tall as
the screen.

But that's not what his specialized utilities are reporting.

They're reporting window dimensions. Not screen resolution
setting.

And it's possible for a desktop environment to have a
larger coordinate space, than you can see at any one time.

A window can be an off-screen buffer, unconstrained by
graphics hardware. When it's "rendered" or composited,
a viewport clips the excess materials at that point in time.

The only thing that's constrained in his setup, is the
panel in the LCD monitor, has precisely 1920x1200
visible pixels. And that can't be changed. But a lot of
other things are quite flexible.

Â*Â* Paul

Yes, the availability of workspace larger than the screen size is not
new. In that case there are scroll bars to access that additional space.
I didn't get the impression that this was Terry's issue because of the
odd size he reported for a maximized screen and he didn't mention scroll
bars.

Also, his reply to my post states that the graphics resolution is also
1920 x 1200, so a maximized app should not exceed those dimensions under
normal circumstances. So, that suggests some other source of the problem.


You must have missed the solution from Ralph some seven hours ago Neil.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

I wasn't on-line 7 hours ago. However, I did respond to your reply to
Ralph because it doesn't seem to address the issue as you presented it.
See that reply for specifics.

--
best regards,

Neil
 




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