New Wi7 install

Ok, I finally figured I'd try to install Win7 on an old Averatec 8100
laptop. 1.25 Gb ram, 60Gb hd, P4 at 3Gz. So figured it'd run it.

First while Xp was still installed I went in and wrote down all the
various devices I figured I might have issues with.

As expected many unknown devices after install finishes but Win7 is up
and running. Took some doing to find a Realtek sound card driver even
more so to find a driver for the SIS 900 nic.

Device manager trying to update driver finds nada. What I don't
understand is Windows Update Catalog gives me various downloads for the
wireless card and the video (Radeon Mobilit 9600) but none fo them work!
In particular during install the Radeon download states there's a file
missing. Note doesn't tell you what it is.

Kinda getting frustrating looking and all the "drive download" places
want you to run some driver downloader which excuse language but "****
that bs". They wouldn't be doing that if it wasn't for something they
want they aren't willing to share with you.

AMD's site gives a download for the Radeon but that also fails and
unsure why as it states it installed ok but device manager shows
different even after a reboot.

Thankfully system does play mp3 files ok and xvid video ok as well, usb
works etc. which is what I really wanted it for, e.g. a camp media
system, no internet etc.

In any case anyone have any ideas might help? I'd least like to get
video card working using presumably a better driver.

pjp wrote:
Ok, I finally figured I'd try to install Win7 on an old Averatec 8100
laptop. 1.25 Gb ram, 60Gb hd, P4 at 3Gz. So figured it'd run it.

First while Xp was still installed I went in and wrote down all the
various devices I figured I might have issues with.

As expected many unknown devices after install finishes but Win7 is up
and running. Took some doing to find a Realtek sound card driver even
more so to find a driver for the SIS 900 nic.

Device manager trying to update driver finds nada. What I don't
understand is Windows Update Catalog gives me various downloads for the
wireless card and the video (Radeon Mobilit 9600) but none fo them work!
In particular during install the Radeon download states there's a file
missing. Note doesn't tell you what it is.

Kinda getting frustrating looking and all the "drive download" places
want you to run some driver downloader which excuse language but "****
that bs". They wouldn't be doing that if it wasn't for something they
want they aren't willing to share with you.

AMD's site gives a download for the Radeon but that also fails and
unsure why as it states it installed ok but device manager shows
different even after a reboot.

Thankfully system does play mp3 files ok and xvid video ok as well, usb
works etc. which is what I really wanted it for, e.g. a camp media
system, no internet etc.

In any case anyone have any ideas might help? I'd least like to get
video card working using presumably a better driver.

There are some missing driver programs that have helped me out in a pinch,
and one of them is Driver Booster (from iobit). They aren't all junk, and
yes, some of these need to install their driver checking program to actually
check for the missing drivers. AFAIK, Driver Booster seems to have a decent
reputation, if you look at the reviews. Link is below. I had to use a
couple of such programs (in addition to the Dell driver support site) to get
some missing drivers. The second link is one review of the program.

https://www.iobit.com/en/driver-booster.php

https://www.lifewire.com/driver-booster-review-2619190

pjp wrote:


Ok, I finally figured I'd try to install Win7 on an old Averatec 8100
laptop. 1.25 Gb ram, 60Gb hd, P4 at 3Gz. So figured it'd run it.

First while Xp was still installed I went in and wrote down all the
various devices I figured I might have issues with.

As expected many unknown devices after install finishes but Win7 is up
and running. Took some doing to find a Realtek sound card driver even
more so to find a driver for the SIS 900 nic.

Device manager trying to update driver finds nada. What I don't
understand is Windows Update Catalog gives me various downloads for the
wireless card and the video (Radeon Mobilit 9600) but none fo them work!
In particular during install the Radeon download states there's a file
missing. Note doesn't tell you what it is.

Kinda getting frustrating looking and all the "drive download" places
want you to run some driver downloader which excuse language but "****
that bs". They wouldn't be doing that if it wasn't for something they
want they aren't willing to share with you.

AMD's site gives a download for the Radeon but that also fails and
unsure why as it states it installed ok but device manager shows
different even after a reboot.

Thankfully system does play mp3 files ok and xvid video ok as well, usb
works etc. which is what I really wanted it for, e.g. a camp media
system, no internet etc.

In any case anyone have any ideas might help? I'd least like to get
video card working using presumably a better driver.

Maybe try Vista drivers.
And try DX9.

pjp wrote:

Ok, I finally figured I'd try to install Win7 on an old Averatec 8100
laptop. 1.25 Gb ram, 60Gb hd, P4 at 3Gz. So figured it'd run it.

First while Xp was still installed I went in and wrote down all the
various devices I figured I might have issues with.

As expected many unknown devices after install finishes but Win7 is up
and running. Took some doing to find a Realtek sound card driver even
more so to find a driver for the SIS 900 nic.

Device manager trying to update driver finds nada. What I don't
understand is Windows Update Catalog gives me various downloads for the
wireless card and the video (Radeon Mobilit 9600) but none fo them work!
In particular during install the Radeon download states there's a file
missing. Note doesn't tell you what it is.

Kinda getting frustrating looking and all the "drive download" places
want you to run some driver downloader which excuse language but "****
that bs". They wouldn't be doing that if it wasn't for something they
want they aren't willing to share with you.

AMD's site gives a download for the Radeon but that also fails and
unsure why as it states it installed ok but device manager shows
different even after a reboot.

Thankfully system does play mp3 files ok and xvid video ok as well, usb
works etc. which is what I really wanted it for, e.g. a camp media
system, no internet etc.

In any case anyone have any ideas might help? I'd least like to get
video card working using presumably a better driver.

Laptop GPU drivers are different than desktop GPU drivers,
in that the LCD panel doesn't have "Plug and Play" (PNP)
information. And some file provides details for that purpose.
That could be the file your driver install is complaining about.

I've not hacked any laptop GPU drivers, so I can't even hazard
a guess what to look for inside the old (WinXP) driver. While
the two drivers likely have little in common, the need to
identify the panel dimensions and refresh rate, doesn't
change.

Microsoft probably gets a ton of (in-box) drivers from ATI/AMD
and NVidia, for their OS installer DVDs. But the driver you need,
would come from Averatec, and Averatec was absorbed into the
parent company (which is cheesy language for "shut down"). The parent
company offers one of those "crap" pages where the drivers should be.
I checked archive.org, and as near as I can determine, the 8100 came
out after they stopped updating the Averatec driver site. There is
an entry for 7100, and that's about as close as I could get. There is
no entry for 8100. Even if there was an entry, the search function
won't work on an archive.org captured page anyway. The wiring
would be broken. Archived driver pages hardly ever work right.
It would take the most naive driver page design, for the archived
version to have actual driver files.

The next time you buy a laptop, try to find a brand that
has an actual, useful, driver page. Such a situation doesn't
happen too often.

Paul

In message , Bill in Co
writes:
pjp wrote:
Ok, I finally figured I'd try to install Win7 on an old Averatec 8100
laptop. 1.25 Gb ram, 60Gb hd, P4 at 3Gz. So figured it'd run it.

First while Xp was still installed I went in and wrote down all the
various devices I figured I might have issues with.

As expected many unknown devices after install finishes but Win7 is up
and running. Took some doing to find a Realtek sound card driver even
more so to find a driver for the SIS 900 nic.

Device manager trying to update driver finds nada. What I don't
understand is Windows Update Catalog gives me various downloads for the
wireless card and the video (Radeon Mobilit 9600) but none fo them work!
In particular during install the Radeon download states there's a file
missing. Note doesn't tell you what it is.

Kinda getting frustrating looking and all the "drive download" places
want you to run some driver downloader which excuse language but "****
that bs". They wouldn't be doing that if it wasn't for something they
want they aren't willing to share with you.

AMD's site gives a download for the Radeon but that also fails and
unsure why as it states it installed ok but device manager shows
different even after a reboot.

Thankfully system does play mp3 files ok and xvid video ok as well, usb
works etc. which is what I really wanted it for, e.g. a camp media
system, no internet etc.

In any case anyone have any ideas might help? I'd least like to get
video card working using presumably a better driver.

There are some missing driver programs that have helped me out in a pinch,
and one of them is Driver Booster (from iobit). They aren't all junk, and
yes, some of these need to install their driver checking program to actually
check for the missing drivers. AFAIK, Driver Booster seems to have a decent
reputation, if you look at the reviews. Link is below. I had to use a
couple of such programs (in addition to the Dell driver support site) to get
some missing drivers. The second link is one review of the program.

https://www.iobit.com/en/driver-booster.php

https://www.lifewire.com/driver-booster-review-2619190


One negative point: When it scans, it produces a list of outdated
drivers it's found, with big update button at the top, and a tickbox
next to each one, initially all pre-ticked. If you untick some and then
click the big update button, it still shows "Updating" next to _all_ of
them. (It creates a restore point first, and you can click STOP while
it's doing that.) I presume you have to use the individual Update
buttons. (When you click STOP, it says "Please wait for stopping. This
may take a while." I gave up waiting and killed it.)

An amusing curiosity: the info tool tells me my two memory module
manufacturers are "80CE" for the 2G module and "Kinston" for the 1G one:
yes, no g! Do I have a fake! (I've had no indication it doesn't _work_
fine.) But then it also tells me my HD is IDE, and I know it's SATA, so
I don't trust _that_ too much.

The scan I interrupted (after it had finished scanning, just while it
was preparing to update) said it found 19 out-of-date drivers, although
a lot of those were the same type repeated (fair enough); a repeat still
showed 19 (from the start) while scanning, but only showed four when it
had finished.

The individual update seems to work - well, I tried the update it
offered for my webcam, which then said it wasn't working, but the
rollback option (in Driver Booster, not device manager, though I would
guess it just calls that) made it work again. (I didn't try a reboot, to
be fair.)

The tooltips picks up the text colour but not the background colour;
I've seen this in other prog.s from time to time. Since I have my
tooltips set to yellow on brown, and it shows them as yellow on white,
they're illegible. (Another prog. - Brother's Keeper - displayed in
black on brown at one time, though the author has corrected that and it
now picks up both correctly.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

What a strange illusion it is to suppose that beauty is goodness. -Leo Tolstoy,
novelist and philosopher (1828-1910)

Paul wrote:
pjp wrote:

Ok, I finally figured I'd try to install Win7 on an old Averatec 8100
laptop. 1.25 Gb ram, 60Gb hd, P4 at 3Gz. So figured it'd run it.

First while Xp was still installed I went in and wrote down all the
various devices I figured I might have issues with.

As expected many unknown devices after install finishes but Win7 is up
and running. Took some doing to find a Realtek sound card driver even
more so to find a driver for the SIS 900 nic.
Device manager trying to update driver finds nada. What I don't
understand is Windows Update Catalog gives me various downloads for
the wireless card and the video (Radeon Mobilit 9600) but none fo them
work! In particular during install the Radeon download states there's
a file missing. Note doesn't tell you what it is.

Kinda getting frustrating looking and all the "drive download" places
want you to run some driver downloader which excuse language but "****
that bs". They wouldn't be doing that if it wasn't for something they
want they aren't willing to share with you.

AMD's site gives a download for the Radeon but that also fails and
unsure why as it states it installed ok but device manager shows
different even after a reboot.

Thankfully system does play mp3 files ok and xvid video ok as well,
usb works etc. which is what I really wanted it for, e.g. a camp media
system, no internet etc.

In any case anyone have any ideas might help? I'd least like to get
video card working using presumably a better driver.

I can't even find an Averatec 8100 spec summary right now.

It could be chipset graphics. This listing shows some possibly
similar machines. But, you'd need to check panel size and native
resolution, to know for sure.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Ra...00.3775.0.html

If I pick the Toshiba A210 as a similar model (same chipset), they have an
ATI driver for Win7.

https://support.toshiba.com/support/...871687&osId=31

The CH_82296.inf file looks pretty ordinary to me. Three of the
lines are encoded for Toshiba, while the fourth is wild-carded
and matches with any X1200 series.

[ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.0]
"ATI Radeon X1200" = ati2mtag_RS690M, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_791F&SUBSYS_FF1A1179
"ATI Radeon X1250" = ati2mtag_RS690M, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_791F&SUBSYS_FF601179
"ATI Radeon X1250 " = ati2mtag_RS690M, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_791F&SUBSYS_FF681179
"ATI Radeon X1200 Series" = ati2mtag_RS690M, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_791F

And that's just "normal" plug and play. The 1179 probably
belongs to Toshiba, while the FF1A part identifies
individual laptop platforms.

The fourth line is a strange thing to leave in the driver.

I'm still not seeing the purported custom info there.

The Toshiba A210 probably uses an entirely different panel.
Your Averatec could be a 4:3 or 5:4 panel, whereas the Tosh
could be 16:9. Slim chances of a match from that point of view.

Make sure the OS is backed up, before installing that, in
case you can't see the screen later :-)

*******

One way to "watch" the driver install, is with sysinternals.com
Process Monitor. If the driver package actually probes for a
"missing" file, you might catch it in the trace.

*******

Another possibility I thought of, is the Averatec 8100 was also
sold as an OEM laptop from the likes of Dell/HP/Acer. But unless
someone mentions it in a review, I'm unlikely to make the
association with any search tools as such. Trigem was used
extensively with the OEMs for things like desktop motherboards,
so the Korean manufacturer did play a part (and probably still
does) in the supply chain.

Paul

"pjp" wrote

| Ok, I finally figured I'd try to install Win7 on an old Averatec 8100
| laptop. 1.25 Gb ram, 60Gb hd, P4 at 3Gz. So figured it'd run it.
|

It looks like they've hung you out to dry. The parent
company is he

https://trigemcom.en.ec21.com/

There's no sign of any support links. My next try
would be the motherboard, but the closest I see
to a manual is for the 7100. I don't know if that
will be of any help:

https://manualsdump.com/en/manuals/a...odel/162273/21

There can be different sources. An Acme computer
with Ace motherboard and AAA chipset might turn
up drivers at any one of those companies. It sounds
like you know the AMD chipset. If so that's your
best bet. Not from Microsoft but from AMD. Also,
watch out for the unsigned problem. Post-XP
Microsoft likes to just break things. I've run into
cases where Windows is trying to steer me away
from unsigned drivers and it can be awkward to figure
out the way to tell it, "Yes, I want to install the
unsigned driver." Though I haven't dealt with that
recently, so I can't offer details. But I seem to
remember situations where I had to go through
steps to force the install "wizard" to even show me
the option of the unsigned drivers.

In article , lid says...

Paul wrote:
pjp wrote:

Ok, I finally figured I'd try to install Win7 on an old Averatec 8100
laptop. 1.25 Gb ram, 60Gb hd, P4 at 3Gz. So figured it'd run it.

First while Xp was still installed I went in and wrote down all the
various devices I figured I might have issues with.

As expected many unknown devices after install finishes but Win7 is up
and running. Took some doing to find a Realtek sound card driver even
more so to find a driver for the SIS 900 nic.
Device manager trying to update driver finds nada. What I don't
understand is Windows Update Catalog gives me various downloads for
the wireless card and the video (Radeon Mobilit 9600) but none fo them
work! In particular during install the Radeon download states there's
a file missing. Note doesn't tell you what it is.

Kinda getting frustrating looking and all the "drive download" places
want you to run some driver downloader which excuse language but "****
that bs". They wouldn't be doing that if it wasn't for something they
want they aren't willing to share with you.

AMD's site gives a download for the Radeon but that also fails and
unsure why as it states it installed ok but device manager shows
different even after a reboot.

Thankfully system does play mp3 files ok and xvid video ok as well,
usb works etc. which is what I really wanted it for, e.g. a camp media
system, no internet etc.

In any case anyone have any ideas might help? I'd least like to get
video card working using presumably a better driver.

I can't even find an Averatec 8100 spec summary right now.

It could be chipset graphics. This listing shows some possibly
similar machines. But, you'd need to check panel size and native
resolution, to know for sure.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Ra...00.3775.0.html

If I pick the Toshiba A210 as a similar model (same chipset), they have an
ATI driver for Win7.

https://support.toshiba.com/support/...871687&osId=31

The CH_82296.inf file looks pretty ordinary to me. Three of the
lines are encoded for Toshiba, while the fourth is wild-carded

Averatec 6100 and it's been awhile now but they never offered anything
past XP drivers even after Win7 (& Vista) came online. I didn't realize
having the chipset name itself as presented by XP's Device manager
wouldn't be enough to find drivers.