registry cleaner and back up

Will you and db be so kind as to give us any logical explanation of HOW a
register cleaner can improve performance?
Don't say by getting rid of unneeded data. Give a LOGICAL explanation.
"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...
Right!

He just wants someone else to do his work for him.

DSH

" db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. ." databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com
wrote in message news:%23duS%

...

he is a sly one and
was just baiting you.

if he had such an open
mind, he could download
the program and test it
himself.
--

db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..)))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º¸.
)))º·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. )))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...

I don't give a rat's rear end whether you believe me or not.

I'm not trying to sell anything.

So, it's not worth my time and effort to post elaborate results of the
tests
I ran -- which will simply lead to a long thread of worthless back and
forth
caterwauling.

I can use that time far better in other useful pursuits such as managing
my
stock portfolio, working on the car, writing a historical post or email
or
doing something nice for my wife -- not necessarily in that order. g

I ran controlled tests on nine different machines with various
configurations -- using the Registry Cleaner in CCleaner.

Performance was improved on all of them -- fewer hangs and pauses,
faster
loading of applications, faster executions of commands and faster
startups
and shutdowns.

No Glitches -- Removing Something That Should Not Have Been Removed --
No
FUD.

I have no experience of using other Registry Cleaners -- so I can't
speak to
them.

I do, carefully, sometimes manually remove or make changes to the
Registry. So, I'm not a barefoot empiricist.

Your Mileage May Vary...

So, Run Your Own Tests.

Bonne Chance!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

oh..., back off.

it was he who was
providing a suggestion
and it wasn't provided
to you.

ps: you were baiting him
because you wanted to make
this discussion into an argument.

--

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"Daave" wrote in message
...
No bait. You're the one who made the claim. I've used Ccleaner and have only
found the clearing of temp files to be beneficial. If you've done more
extensive testing, good for you. But bear in mind that is was YOU who made the
claim in the first place! And I still find it interesting you're unwilling to
back it up.

Belief and knowledge are two different things...


"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...
Right!

He just wants someone else to do his work for him.

DSH

" db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. ." databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com wrote
in message news:%23duS%

...

he is a sly one and
was just baiting you.

if he had such an open
mind, he could download
the program and test it
himself.
--

db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..)))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º¸.
)))º·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. )))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...

I don't give a rat's rear end whether you believe me or not.

I'm not trying to sell anything.

So, it's not worth my time and effort to post elaborate results of the
tests
I ran -- which will simply lead to a long thread of worthless back and
forth
caterwauling.

I can use that time far better in other useful pursuits such as managing my
stock portfolio, working on the car, writing a historical post or email or
doing something nice for my wife -- not necessarily in that order. g

I ran controlled tests on nine different machines with various
configurations -- using the Registry Cleaner in CCleaner.

Performance was improved on all of them -- fewer hangs and pauses, faster
loading of applications, faster executions of commands and faster startups
and shutdowns.

No Glitches -- Removing Something That Should Not Have Been Removed -- No
FUD.

I have no experience of using other Registry Cleaners -- so I can't speak
to
them.

I do, carefully, sometimes manually remove or make changes to the Registry.
So, I'm not a barefoot empiricist.

Your Mileage May Vary...

So, Run Your Own Tests.

Bonne Chance!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

absolutely....

in fact you can here
it directly from the
experts he

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...leaner_why.htm

the teams of code writers
and testers concur on
the above; according to
the chat i had with
a microsoft technician
several months ago.

--

db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..)))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º¸.
)))º·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. )))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º


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"Unknown" wrote in message
t...
Will you and db be so kind as to give us any logical explanation of HOW a
register cleaner can improve performance?
Don't say by getting rid of unneeded data. Give a LOGICAL explanation.
"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...
Right!

He just wants someone else to do his work for him.

DSH

" db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. ." databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com wrote
in message news:%23duS%

...

he is a sly one and
was just baiting you.

if he had such an open
mind, he could download
the program and test it
himself.
--

db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..)))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º¸.
)))º·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. )))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...

I don't give a rat's rear end whether you believe me or not.

I'm not trying to sell anything.

So, it's not worth my time and effort to post elaborate results of the
tests
I ran -- which will simply lead to a long thread of worthless back and
forth
caterwauling.

I can use that time far better in other useful pursuits such as managing my
stock portfolio, working on the car, writing a historical post or email or
doing something nice for my wife -- not necessarily in that order. g

I ran controlled tests on nine different machines with various
configurations -- using the Registry Cleaner in CCleaner.

Performance was improved on all of them -- fewer hangs and pauses, faster
loading of applications, faster executions of commands and faster startups
and shutdowns.

No Glitches -- Removing Something That Should Not Have Been Removed -- No
FUD.

I have no experience of using other Registry Cleaners -- so I can't speak
to
them.

I do, carefully, sometimes manually remove or make changes to the Registry.
So, I'm not a barefoot empiricist.

Your Mileage May Vary...

So, Run Your Own Tests.

Bonne Chance!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Unknown wrote:
Will you and db be so kind as to give us any logical explanation of HOW a
register cleaner can improve performance?
Don't say by getting rid of unneeded data. Give a LOGICAL explanation.

I can think of one scenario where the use of a registry cleaner might improve
performance, but it would require the use of two additional programs. Here's the
four-step process:

1. use registry cleaner
2. defragment volume that contains registry
3. use registry compacter (eg, NTREGOPT)
4. reboot system

Using this process, NTREGOPT will create a new, smaller registry that will not
be fragmented. Defragmenting the registry in this fashion WILL have a positive
impact on performance, particularly during the boot process when large chunks of
the registry are manipulated.

Now, one can argue whether the performance boost was due to NTREGOPT or the
registry cleaner, but that's for others to debate. For what it's worth, I use
NTREGOPT every couple months, but I never use a registry cleaner. For many
reasons, I perform registry cleaning tasks manually...

You in no way accomplished my request. Give me a logical explanation not a
sales pitch. If you have games installed on your computer would you speed up
your computer if you deleted them? Get realistic.
" db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. ." databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com
wrote in message ...
absolutely....

in fact you can here
it directly from the
experts he

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...leaner_why.htm

the teams of code writers
and testers concur on
the above; according to
the chat i had with
a microsoft technician
several months ago.

--

db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..)))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º¸.
)))º·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. )))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º


.


"Unknown" wrote in message
t...
Will you and db be so kind as to give us any logical explanation of HOW a
register cleaner can improve performance?
Don't say by getting rid of unneeded data. Give a LOGICAL explanation.
"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...
Right!

He just wants someone else to do his work for him.

DSH

" db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. ." databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com
wrote in message news:%23duS%

...

he is a sly one and
was just baiting you.

if he had such an open
mind, he could download
the program and test it
himself.
--

db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..)))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º¸.
)))º·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. )))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...

I don't give a rat's rear end whether you believe me or not.

I'm not trying to sell anything.

So, it's not worth my time and effort to post elaborate results of the
tests
I ran -- which will simply lead to a long thread of worthless back and
forth
caterwauling.

I can use that time far better in other useful pursuits such as
managing my
stock portfolio, working on the car, writing a historical post or
email or
doing something nice for my wife -- not necessarily in that order.
g

I ran controlled tests on nine different machines with various
configurations -- using the Registry Cleaner in CCleaner.

Performance was improved on all of them -- fewer hangs and pauses,
faster
loading of applications, faster executions of commands and faster
startups
and shutdowns.

No Glitches -- Removing Something That Should Not Have Been Removed --
No
FUD.

I have no experience of using other Registry Cleaners -- so I can't
speak to
them.

I do, carefully, sometimes manually remove or make changes to the
Registry. So, I'm not a barefoot empiricist.

Your Mileage May Vary...

So, Run Your Own Tests.

Bonne Chance!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

If it is so great why haven't they (Microsoft OneCare) included a
registry cleaner in their product? Maybe it's because registry cleaning
provides too great risks of damages while doing nothing to improve
performance...

http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsO...73886&SiteID=2
http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsO...cope=allforums

John



db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. . wrote:

absolutely....

in fact you can here
it directly from the
experts he

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...leaner_why.htm

the teams of code writers
and testers concur on
the above; according to
the chat i had with
a microsoft technician
several months ago.

well,
it makes no difference
to me or microsoft or
the world.

unfortunate for you that
no one here owes you
any explanations about
anything.

--

db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..)))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º¸.
)))º·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. )))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º


..


"Unknown" wrote in message
t...
You in no way accomplished my request. Give me a logical explanation not a
sales pitch. If you have games installed on your computer would you speed up
your computer if you deleted them? Get realistic.
" db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. ." databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com wrote
in message ...
absolutely....

in fact you can here
it directly from the
experts he

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...leaner_why.htm

the teams of code writers
and testers concur on
the above; according to
the chat i had with
a microsoft technician
several months ago.

--

db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..)))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º¸.
)))º·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. )))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º


.


"Unknown" wrote in message
t...
Will you and db be so kind as to give us any logical explanation of HOW a
register cleaner can improve performance?
Don't say by getting rid of unneeded data. Give a LOGICAL explanation.
"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...
Right!

He just wants someone else to do his work for him.

DSH

" db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. ." databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com
wrote in message news:%23duS%

...

he is a sly one and
was just baiting you.

if he had such an open
mind, he could download
the program and test it
himself.
--

db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..)))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º¸.
)))º·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. )))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...

I don't give a rat's rear end whether you believe me or not.

I'm not trying to sell anything.

So, it's not worth my time and effort to post elaborate results of the
tests
I ran -- which will simply lead to a long thread of worthless back and
forth
caterwauling.

I can use that time far better in other useful pursuits such as managing
my
stock portfolio, working on the car, writing a historical post or email
or
doing something nice for my wife -- not necessarily in that order. g

I ran controlled tests on nine different machines with various
configurations -- using the Registry Cleaner in CCleaner.

Performance was improved on all of them -- fewer hangs and pauses, faster
loading of applications, faster executions of commands and faster
startups
and shutdowns.

No Glitches -- Removing Something That Should Not Have Been Removed --
No
FUD.

I have no experience of using other Registry Cleaners -- so I can't speak
to
them.

I do, carefully, sometimes manually remove or make changes to the
Registry. So, I'm not a barefoot empiricist.

Your Mileage May Vary...

So, Run Your Own Tests.

Bonne Chance!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Unfortunate part is that they are neither safe or effective.
Post facts not your emotions.
"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...
G

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm

Yes, they are not-too-smart, narrow-minded technicians who have seen
pogues misuse Registry Cleaners and want to proscribe them for ALL of us.

Bruce Chambers seems to be one of the worst of them.

I would certainly concur that an unguided Registry Cleaner in the hands of
a
Naive Newbie is a dangerous weapon indeed.

But I've found the Registry Cleaner in CCleaner to be BOTH safe and
effective.

'Nuff Said.

DSH

" db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. ." databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com
wrote in message ...
you are correct
about the performance
of the registry database
file and thousands would
agree as well as Microsoft.

in fact, microsoft invented
the first registry cleaner because
maintaining the database was
as critical then as it is now.

now microsoft certified technicians
not only redeveloped their registry
cleaner but wrote a whole page on
the subject:

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...leaner_why.htm

isn't humorous how
some believe that they are
more knowledgeable
on windows than
microsoft is???

don't spend too much
time debating the issue.
some of these guys are
habitual antagonist and
disruptive and enjoy
manipulation and a reason
to use name calling.

the facts are clear and
microsoft facts relating
to its registry is the final
word regarding this issue.

(you know that they are
likely hypocrites because
they likely used registry
cleaners themselves)

incidentally, you might
enjoy the newsgroup if
you use a killfile to filter
out the irritations.
--

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.


"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...

Twaddle...

My experience proves otherwise.

DSH

"John John" wrote in message
...

That is an absurd claim, cleaning the registry does not improve
performance.

John

D. Spencer Hines wrote:

Nope...

Bollixed Thinking...

I've run tests on several machines and CCleaner's Registry Cleaner has
improved performance on nine of them -- as compared to exactly
identical machines without CCleaner.

DSH

"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message
...

D. Spencer Hines wrote:

Nonsense...

CCleaner is safe as a Registry Cleaner....

CCleaner's registry scanner seems relatively benign, as long as
you
step through each detected "issue" one at a time, to determine if it
really is an "issue" or not, and then decide whether or not to let
the
application "fix" it. In my testing, though, most of the reported
"issues" won't be issues, at all. I tried the latest version on a
brand-new OS installation with no additional applications installed,
and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and CCleaner still
managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned registry entries
and dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files.

CCleaner's sole strength, and the only reason I use it, lies in
its
usefulness for cleaning up unused temporary files from the hard
drive;
as a registry "cleaner," it's not significantly better or worse than
any other snake oil product of the same type.

And improves performance.

Utterly untrue. *NO* registry "cleaner" has ever been proven to
improve performance; the actions they perform are not the sort that
could have any affect on a computer's performance.

John John added these comments in the current discussion du jour
....

If it is so great why haven't they (Microsoft OneCare)
included a registry cleaner in their product? Maybe it's
because registry cleaning provides too great risks of damages
while doing nothing to improve performance...

For reasons known only to Bill Gates and God - is that the same
thing? - MS has eshewed all kinds of useful utilities and allowed
the 3rd party folks to take center stage. I've always wondered
what MS might've been able to do had they really tried.
Seriously, with no hint whatsoever about MS bashing, who better
to write competant utilities than the designer/builder of the
O/S?

http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsO...st.aspx?PostID
=1973886&SiteID=2
http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsO.../Search.aspx?w
ords=registry+cleaner&localechoice=9&SiteID=2&sear chscope=allfo
rums

John



db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. . wrote:

absolutely....

in fact you can here
it directly from the
experts he

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...try_cleaner_wh
y.htm

the teams of code writers
and testers concur on
the above; according to
the chat i had with
a microsoft technician
several months ago.





--
HP, aka Jerry

I Agree.

BUT it's the damned COURTS and LEGISLATURES that have done that to
Microsoft.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

"HEMI-Powered" wrote in message
...

For reasons known only to Bill Gates and God - is that the same
thing? - MS has eshewed all kinds of useful utilities and allowed
the 3rd party folks to take center stage. I've always wondered
what MS might've been able to do had they really tried.
Seriously, with no hint whatsoever about MS bashing, who better
to write competent utilities than the designer/builder of the
O/S?

HEMI-Powered wrote:

John John added these comments in the current discussion du jour
...


If it is so great why haven't they (Microsoft OneCare)
included a registry cleaner in their product? Maybe it's
because registry cleaning provides too great risks of damages
while doing nothing to improve performance...


For reasons known only to Bill Gates and God - is that the same
thing? - MS has eshewed all kinds of useful utilities and allowed
the 3rd party folks to take center stage. I've always wondered
what MS might've been able to do had they really tried.
Seriously, with no hint whatsoever about MS bashing, who better
to write competant utilities than the designer/builder of the
O/S?

Microsoft didn't write the OneCare utilities, nor did they write the
registry cleaner that is mentioned on their web site, these utilities
were written by what was previously Giant Software, Microsoft bought
them out so that they could expand their business and get into the AV
business. If my memory serves me well the total AV business is pegged
at about 12 billion dollars a year and it is a market that Microsoft
would dearly love to get a share of.

Of course Microsoft is rewriting and reassessing the Giant/OneCare
utilities that it ships but the bulk of these utilities were not written
by Microsoft. Until Giant was bought out by Microsoft many people had
never even heard of them before.

John

You are quite correct---noone owes me any explanations. But your credibility
is so utterly non existent because
of the blatant idiotic notions you post without EVER documenting, proving or
explaining any of them.
" db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. ." databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com
wrote in message ...
well,
it makes no difference
to me or microsoft or
the world.

unfortunate for you that
no one here owes you
any explanations about
anything.

--

db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..)))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º¸.
)))º·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. )))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º


.


"Unknown" wrote in message
t...
You in no way accomplished my request. Give me a logical explanation not
a sales pitch. If you have games installed on your computer would you
speed up your computer if you deleted them? Get realistic.
" db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. ." databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com
wrote in message ...
absolutely....

in fact you can here
it directly from the
experts he

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...leaner_why.htm

the teams of code writers
and testers concur on
the above; according to
the chat i had with
a microsoft technician
several months ago.

--

db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..)))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º¸.
)))º·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. )))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º


.


"Unknown" wrote in message
t...
Will you and db be so kind as to give us any logical explanation of HOW
a register cleaner can improve performance?
Don't say by getting rid of unneeded data. Give a LOGICAL explanation.
"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...
Right!

He just wants someone else to do his work for him.

DSH

" db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. ."
databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com wrote in message
news:%23duS%

...

he is a sly one and
was just baiting you.

if he had such an open
mind, he could download
the program and test it
himself.
--

db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..)))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º¸.
)))º·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. )))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...

I don't give a rat's rear end whether you believe me or not.

I'm not trying to sell anything.

So, it's not worth my time and effort to post elaborate results of
the tests
I ran -- which will simply lead to a long thread of worthless back
and forth
caterwauling.

I can use that time far better in other useful pursuits such as
managing my
stock portfolio, working on the car, writing a historical post or
email or
doing something nice for my wife -- not necessarily in that order.
g

I ran controlled tests on nine different machines with various
configurations -- using the Registry Cleaner in CCleaner.

Performance was improved on all of them -- fewer hangs and pauses,
faster
loading of applications, faster executions of commands and faster
startups
and shutdowns.

No Glitches -- Removing Something That Should Not Have Been
Removed -- No
FUD.

I have no experience of using other Registry Cleaners -- so I can't
speak to
them.

I do, carefully, sometimes manually remove or make changes to the
Registry. So, I'm not a barefoot empiricist.

Your Mileage May Vary...

So, Run Your Own Tests.

Bonne Chance!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Mon, 05 Nov 2007 00:56:56 GMT from HEMI-Powered :
I clean my Registry periodically with JV16 Powertools 100% only
to get rid of unnessary clutter such as obsolete or invalid keys,
leftover shortcuts and the like. Can't say I have ever seen a
performance increase, though.

So your philosophy is "if it ain't broke, fix it anyway"? :-)

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
"If there's one thing I know, it's men. I ought to: it's
been my life work." -- Marie Dressler, in /Dinner at Eight/

Stan Brown added these comments in the current discussion du
jour ...

Mon, 05 Nov 2007 00:56:56 GMT from HEMI-Powered
:
I clean my Registry periodically with JV16 Powertools 100%
only to get rid of unnessary clutter such as obsolete or
invalid keys, leftover shortcuts and the like. Can't say I
have ever seen a performance increase, though.

So your philosophy is "if it ain't broke, fix it anyway"? :-)

No, the exact opposite. I didn't say so in this thread, but a
Registry scan is part of my periodic malware extensve scans. That
makes sense, at least to me, to see if something may have slipped
by that I recognize as "bad" but in the process, I clear out the
obvious crap. I do NOT go looking just for the sake of looking,
ditto for cleaning ever, ditto for performance increases because I
don't feel there are any to be gained.

--
HP, aka Jerry

CCleaner was used on my recently rebuilt hard drive and disassociatd all file
extensions on my computer. No programs worked anymore because exe did not
work any more so another complete rebuild had to be done. I will not use it
again.

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote:

Nonsense...

CCleaner is safe as a Registry Cleaner....

And improves performance.

DSH

"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message
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Why do you think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What specific
*problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's bogus listing
of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by using a registry
cleaner?

If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would be
far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the specific
key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After all, why use a
chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally, the manually
changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely to have the
dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make multiple
changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean your
registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of the
computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning loose
a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully confident that
he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of each and every
change.

Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to
maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner, no
matter how safe they claim to be.

More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
automated registry cleaner, particularly by an untrained, inexperienced
computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's certainly been no
empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use of such products to
"clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's performance or stability.
Given the potential for harm, it's just not worth the risk.

Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and every
time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there. And, since
no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any good (think of
them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no real medicinal
value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo effect), I always tell
people that the risks far out-weigh the non-existent benefits.

I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands of
an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a useful
time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make any
changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any
registry cleaners that are truly safe for the general public to use.
Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe in
the hands of the inexperienced user.