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Old January 30th 20, 09:41 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
R.Wieser
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David,

How much further CAN one go, Rudy?


Obviously, you're not paranoid (enough). :-p

On the other hand, you're just here to troll and provoke responses any way
you can. :-)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser



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Old January 30th 20, 10:02 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Shadow,

A simple compare before/after will detect any dropped files.


Are you sure ? What makes you think it will drop /seperate/ files and not
just rewrite (add its code to) an existing one ? Than where will that
leave you ? (bonus points if that modification is done to protected system
files)

But I see you got my point: You /cannot/ protect your 'puter by pulling your
cat5 cable when running random crap.

And a problem with your "A simple compare". Does the term "root kit" mean
anything to you ? Or even just the malicious AV program rewriting programs
like that to ignore certain files ? Its not like that never happened
before ...

And if you think you could solve that by running such a compare (and/or
more) by using a CD with its own OS on it ? You would just have recreated
the initial problem. :-)

But few trust an AV that's been on the market for a
"full 10 days".


You're fully right ofcourse. I mean, who has ever heard of an update which
turned a good piece of software into absolute trash. That simply doesn't
happen, right ?

But hey, you just need to figure out which version of that AV product is on
the up-and-up (good luck with that) and not update it ever. Too bad that
that will probably also stop you from downloading the newest signature files
.... :-p

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


  #33  
Old January 30th 20, 10:37 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
David
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Default AV spying. Surprised?

On 30/01/2020 08:41, R.Wieser wrote:
David,

How much further CAN one go, Rudy?


Obviously, you're not paranoid (enough). :-p

On the other hand, you're just here to troll and provoke responses any way
you can. :-)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


Hello Rudy

Do you have ANY experience with Apple computers?

Do you understand that they do not NEED AV software?

Yet there is a marvellous product which, without you needing to supply
even an email address, will provide a 'package' which you then,
without a second thought, install and provide it with root access to
your computer. Thereafter it keeps you safe from all the nasties on the
Interwebs.

Would YOU use it? Is a FREE trial! What could you possibly have to lose?

Once it is installed, how would YOU remove it - and be SURE it was gone?

--
David

  #34  
Old January 30th 20, 11:22 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
R.Wieser
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Default AV spying. Surprised?

David,

Do you have ANY experience with Apple computers?

Do you understand that they do not NEED AV software?


What kind of herbs would you put into a Sigue Sigue Sputnik soup ?
Alkanet or rather Sinapis alba ?

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


  #35  
Old January 30th 20, 11:28 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
David
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Default AV spying. Surprised?

On 30/01/2020 09:02, R.Wieser wrote:
Shadow,

A simple compare before/after will detect any dropped files.


Are you sure ? What makes you think it will drop /seperate/ files and not
just rewrite (add its code to) an existing one ? Than where will that
leave you ? (bonus points if that modification is done to protected system
files)

But I see you got my point: You /cannot/ protect your 'puter by pulling your
cat5 cable when running random crap.

And a problem with your "A simple compare". Does the term "root kit" mean
anything to you ? Or even just the malicious AV program rewriting programs
like that to ignore certain files ? Its not like that never happened
before ...

And if you think you could solve that by running such a compare (and/or
more) by using a CD with its own OS on it ? You would just have recreated
the initial problem. :-)

But few trust an AV that's been on the market for a
"full 10 days".


You're fully right of course. I mean, who has ever heard of an update which
turned a good piece of software into absolute trash. That simply doesn't
happen, right ?

But hey, you just need to figure out which version of that AV product is on
the up-and-up (good luck with that) and not update it ever. Too bad that
that will probably also stop you from downloading the newest signature files
... :-p

Regards,
Rudy Wieser



Sound advice, Rudy! :-)

Shadow would gain much from familiarising himself with the advice given
he-

https://www.getsafeonline.org/yourdigitalfootprint/

It's good advice for EVERYONE! ;-)

--
Regards,
David

  #36  
Old January 30th 20, 11:46 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
David
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Default AV spying. Surprised?

On 30/01/2020 10:22, R.Wieser wrote:
David,

Do you have ANY experience with Apple computers?

Do you understand that they do not NEED AV software?


What kind of herbs would you put into a Sigue Sigue Sputnik soup ?
Alkanet or rather Sinapis alba ?

Regards,
Rudy Wieser



My friend was the road manager for Depeche Mode

I'll ask what he recommends, OK?

--
David

  #37  
Old January 30th 20, 12:12 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
R.Wieser
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Default AV spying. Surprised?

David,

My friend was the road manager for Depeche Mode

I'll ask what he recommends, OK?


At least you got /that/ reference. :-)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


 




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