What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?

UPDATE:

It's highly instructive that, combined, after almost three hundred
contributions from over thirty authors, nobody can come up with even a
dozen important functionalities that we can do on Windows 10 that we can't
already do on all other Windows operating systems from Windows XP onward.
o *What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/fJBY472ds3E/W539WlUTAwAJ

Likewise, it's just as informative that we seem to arrive at a similar
conclusion for the various Microsoft Office versions extent:
o *What useful functionality is in the newer Microsoft Office*
*that isn't already in the older MSOffice 2007?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/sKGer09EakA/F4duRogaBQAJ]

The adult technical takeaway, could be, unless there's actually something
of truly useful value, that the updates are not as meaningful as Microsoft
marketing would have us attempt to believe.
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On 4/15/2020 11:54 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
UPDATE:
It's highly instructive that, combined, after almost three hundred
contributions from over thirty authors, nobody can come up with even a
dozen important functionalities that we can do on Windows 10 that we can't
already do on all other Windows operating systems from Windows XP onward.
o *What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or
Windows 7?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/fJBY472ds3E/W539WlUTAwAJ


Likewise, it's just as informative that we seem to arrive at a similar
conclusion for the various Microsoft Office versions extent:
o *What useful functionality is in the newer Microsoft Office* Â**that
isn't already in the older MSOffice 2007?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/sKGer09EakA/F4duRogaBQAJ]


The adult technical takeaway, could be, unless there's actually something
of truly useful value, that the updates are not as meaningful as Microsoft
marketing would have us attempt to believe.

Rerun

In response to what Avila Kap wrote :

Rerun

Hi Avila Kap,

The _adult_ topic is a "plateau point" for the Microsoft Windows platform.

Your "rerun" was too short to add any value, so I suspect your post perhaps
was meant to subtract value where I should point out the _adult_ concept.

The _adult_ concept here is that, despite however many hundreds of millions
of dollars of marketing and even more in development costs....

*Windows 10 does just about the same things as do all Windows versions.*
o That's simply a fact we proved in this thread after hundreds of inputs.

You may feel that an unimportant point - but I _know_ it's significant.

Bear in mind I spent decades in Silicon Valley high-tech startup software,
some of it in MARKETING, where almost all software plateaus.

An adult would discuss the plateau point for Microsoft Windows, which, I
suspect, would likely be around Windows XP or, perhaps, Windows 7.

What do you think about that important _adult_ concept, Avila Kap?
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On 2020-04-15, Arlen Holder wrote:
It's highly instructive that, combined, after almost three hundred
contributions from over thirty authors, nobody can come up with even a
dozen important functionalities that we can do on Windows 10 that we can't
already do on all other Windows operating systems from Windows XP onward.
o *What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?*

I haven't read all the responses, but isn't it true that with Windows 10
you can enjoy Microsoft having virtually complete control over updates,
pushing them to your PC whether you want them or not, especially the
Home edition? Also last time I checked, earlier versions of Windows
don't cajole the owner during setup into signing on with a Microsoft
account, nor do they by default permit Microsoft to do maximum tracking
of user activities. After all, wouldn't everyone want to be part of
the "Microsoft Cloud"? Windows 10 does it all for you by default!

Certainly these are all examples of important features available
in Windows 10 that are missing from Windows XP through Windows 7.

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In response to what Roger Blake wrote :

Certainly these are all examples of important features available
in Windows 10 that are missing from Windows XP through Windows 7.

Hi Roger Blake,

There were over 300 inputs from over 30 authors on this important topic.
o As such, there are 2 critically important concepts this thread revealed.

a. Windows has perhaps plateau'd in that there's been fewer than ten useful
functionalities in Windows 10 that you can't do in the older Windows.

b. Almost everything that Microsoft advertises as value in Windows 10,
can be obtained in all the other Windows by an intelligent user base.

Including updates.
o Just not automatic.
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Roger Blake wrote:
On 2020-04-15, Arlen Holder wrote:
It's highly instructive that, combined, after almost three hundred
contributions from over thirty authors, nobody can come up with even a
dozen important functionalities that we can do on Windows 10 that we can't
already do on all other Windows operating systems from Windows XP onward.
o *What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?*

I haven't read all the responses, but isn't it true that with Windows 10
you can enjoy Microsoft having virtually complete control over updates,
pushing them to your PC whether you want them or not, especially the
Home edition? Also last time I checked, earlier versions of Windows
don't cajole the owner during setup into signing on with a Microsoft
account, nor do they by default permit Microsoft to do maximum tracking
of user activities. After all, wouldn't everyone want to be part of
the "Microsoft Cloud"? Windows 10 does it all for you by default!

Certainly these are all examples of important features available
in Windows 10 that are missing from Windows XP through Windows 7.

The aggression level on updates has been turned down a bit.

Pop in a copy and track it.

You don't need a license. It runs without activation.
What you miss by not activating, is the "Settings : Personalize"
won't work for you.

Then, if you want to examine how a Windows Update works or
doesn't work, you can have a look at it.

Some Windows Updates only show up, when you start clicking
stuff. There is also a "button to delay", intended for
work related activity where you wanted to push out the updates
until the weekend.

It's still a nuisance though. Sooner or later, you will be
pushing that button like crazy, sucking in the updates,
rebooting again and again... just to make it stop :-)
I don't particularly appreciate being teased. I can
"cut the nuts off it" if I have to. I haven't tested
lately to see if they've put a stop to that or not.
They've removed two mechanisms to break into the
system as administrator (for the purpose of password
recovery of local-accounts only). They have made some
changes to the "convenience features" in that regard.
osk.exe method doesn't work any more.

As for some of the "features" of this OS, they're in the
Enterprise edition, and only an Enterprise user can
answer this question. For example, there's a security
feature, where a document marked "Confidential", a user
cannot copy and paste text from that document into
an email. This is intended for Enterprise situations
where security controls are in place. The IT guy in
such a situation, has to define storage structures
such that things are classified in a way that the
Enterprise edition can detect. The end result is that
exfiltrating information a bit at a time, is thwarted.

Microsoft as a company, is more interested in keeping
it's "big time pay" customers happy. So some of the
newer features are for them. As is the notion of using
Home and Pro users as "QA" for the product, spotting
bad updates, making QA-like squeaking noises and so on.

Some of the Home/Pro new content, is for rich people.
Such as individuals who own VR or AR hardware. There are
some gamer features of dubious value. There's things
here and there if you look. I don't own an XBox, so
I'm unlikely to spot the integration features.

The OS was also an opportunity to monetize the output
of the Microsoft Research group. That's where some of the
content has come from.

Paul

Paul wrote:

Microsoft as a company, is more interested in keeping
it's "big time pay" customers happy.

Then you would think that they would offer more customization options to
Enterprise users, for at least some of the annoyances. But no. For example, they
have in no way addressed the "sticky corners of the displays" annoyance, which
is more likely to affect Enterprise users who use multiple monitors.

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Roger Blake wrote in
:

On 2020-04-15, Arlen Holder wrote:
It's highly instructive that, combined, after almost three hundred
contributions from over thirty authors, nobody can come up with even
a dozen important functionalities that we can do on Windows 10 that
we can't already do on all other Windows operating systems from
Windows XP onward. o *What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do
on Windows XP or Windows 7?*

I haven't read all the responses, but isn't it true that with Windows
10 you can enjoy Microsoft having virtually complete control over
updates, pushing them to your PC whether you want them or not,
especially the Home edition? Also last time I checked, earlier
versions of Windows don't cajole the owner during setup into signing
on with a Microsoft account, nor do they by default permit Microsoft
to do maximum tracking of user activities. After all, wouldn't
everyone want to be part of the "Microsoft Cloud"? Windows 10 does it
all for you by default!

Certainly these are all examples of important features available
in Windows 10 that are missing from Windows XP through Windows 7.


billy boy gates, once a thief, always a thief

See also this thread from today...
o Why do you still use Windows XP and why?, by Ant
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/xiXjG9KnRAk
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Even the START MENU from Windows XP ports over to Windows 10 with a simple
copy of the file hierarchy and it works out of the box in my setup.

You can stream audio over bluetooth.

Lucifer wrote:
You can stream audio over bluetooth.



I like the "snipping tool". I'm not completely sure whether it was
available earlier.

Lucifer wrote:
You can stream audio over bluetooth.

Nope that's not a difference between Windows 10 and Windows XP/7.

You *could* stream audio over Bluetooth on Windows XP and ever since,
i.e. also on Windows 7. It only needed the proper driver, profiles,
etc., but those were (and are) supplied with/for the Bluetooth adapter
(probably a USB 'dongle' on XP).

In the XP days, you could even use Bluetooth to connect to a
'dumb'phone (for example Nokia 6310i) for use as a (2G (GSM/GPRS)) modem
to connect to the Internet. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.

On 6/27/2020 7:01 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
See also this thread from today...
o Why do you still use Windows XP and why?, by Ant
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/xiXjG9KnRAk

Anything to do with DirectX 12.

Arlen Holder wrote in news:r77l8f$dmv$1
@news.mixmin.net:




Didn't you know? MS updates are so they can inject more spyware into your
machine and disable it if it's not an official paid for version. It's not
about functionality, it's about enforcing more profits.

UPDATE:

Maybe, finally, there will be something useful in Windows 10 that you can't
already do in any of the previous versions of Windows?
o *The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is finally now released 5/27/2020*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/C8uKEw5vIMA
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What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/fJBY472ds3E/W539WlUTAwAJ