registry cleaner and back up

Edward W. Thompson wrote:
"Amadeus47" wrote in message
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Very interesting thread. Has the tinge of some of the 'old' flame
wars of
the 70's and 80's. One source to consult on the topic is also an
'old timer'
around compters, Fred Langa. See his article on registry cleaners
at
http://windowssecrets.com/2007/03/01...ers-worthwhile
JV16 has worked well for me for many years.

And what do you mean by 'worked well'? I assume you mean it hasn't
damaged
the Registry. If that assumption is correct will you explain what
benefits
you have gained from running JV16 an how you measured those
benefits. I do not mean to be critical but the essence of the debate
over
Registry Cleaners is an objective determination of the benefits,
not that they remove
redundant entries from the Registry, I don't think anyone disputes
that. If
the benefits are solely a reduction in the physical size of the
Registry, I
believe we would all agree but might be tempted to add, so what?



Edward,

May I respectfully point you to the link to Fred Langa's article. He
is among many of the 'ancient' PC experts whose opinion is held in
high esteem.
One of the points of his article (which, BTW, emulates the
sentiments of other experts on the topic) he makes is for heavy
computer users (which I am)
a good registry cleaner is a necessity and it *does* help keep a
machine running under these conditions run faster after use. I
suggest others who are interested in this topic will find his
article enlightening.

As you will note, others do not hold Mr. Langa is such high regard as
you. However, don't let us debate Mr. Langa's credentials or lack of
credentials. Am I to understand your recommendation with respect to
Registry Cleaners is based upon a recommendation from Mr. Langa? If
you have objective evidence of your own to show their benefits would
you kindly share that evidence with the rest of us? As you seem to
understand what these programs do, please explain how removing
redundant entries from the Regisry allows your machine to run faster.
Exactly how did you determine this?

I can, and have, done so in the past when other closed minds challenged
the status of "cleaners", provided measurable, verifiable evidence of
same. However, not a single one of those closed minds presented so much
as an iota of evidence to support their claims over the dangers of
"cleaners" OR the lack of any time savings. In fact, my data was
completely ignored, the closed minds choosing to stick to confusing the
newbies rather than straighten out the misinformation they wish to push
on the entire world.
I'm not saying reigstry cleaners should be used periodically,
although with a decent one it will not cause any problems any more than
the registry manipulations of installing and even registry use while
running an application does. There *ARE* circumstances where a
"cleaner" will make a noticeable and profound difference in machine
speed, although they are in the minority of root causes. OTOH
periodically "cleaning" the reigistry with a reliable app will do no
harm.
You guys with your closed minds do more to confuse newbies and
neophytes than any other single act I am aware of w/r to managing the
Registry. A time or two I've even seen "cleaners" denounced on this
group when the "cleaners" under discussion did zero, zip, nada, nothing
with respect to the Registry but were more or less just some code to
initiate the Disk Cleanup feature.