Why Linux Sucks- 2020 Version

In article
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aCZytp4b6E6Dt5, Diesel wrote:

I can run Android apps on my PCs, I can even run the entire Android
OS on any of my PCs. That's nothing new, Where have you been?

not without installing additional software and not without significant
compromises either.

many android apps will never work because a pc lacks numerous hardware
features that are standard on smartphones, many more apps have issues
because the emulation or abstraction layer is never perfect, plus the
apps are designed for an entirely different ui paradigm.

I'm
sure you'll tell me that macs are just as capable of running Android
OS as my Linux based open hardware standard PCs are, right?

yep. just as above, it requires installing additional software.

since that's not possible, your assertion is false.

As I said, I can run Android OS and Android apps on my linux based
PCs. Your logic is faulty. Your claim that my assertion is false is
based on your faulty logic, Rendering such claim null and void.

nope. it's your logic that's faulty.

You clearly misunderstood that very Google url you quoted. And
continued digging the hole, trying to defend your mistake, Rather
than, as is typical of you, admit you messed up and continue on like
a normal person would have.

ad hominem, and there's nothing to misunderstand.

a google engineer, speaking on behalf of google at google i/o, stated
unambiguously that android is not linux.

or do you not know what unambiguously means?

On 1/9/20 11:51 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , Snit
wrote:

Can only answer for myself, but the integration between
applications on the desktop with each other and the OS services,
and the integration with my iOS devices, is a huge plus.

I think I follow you here...

I can give examples if you like.

Please do, if you wouldn't mind.


Just a few examples:

* I can be on my iPhone looking at a website and walk up to my iMac. One
click and the site is opened on my Mac. Almost as easy the other way around.

* I can be on a phone call on my iPhone and walk up to my iMac and
quickly switch to be talking with my headphones connected to my Mac.

* Even just on the Mac, I can create "services" which allow me to get
tasks done more easily. An example: when someone posts a Message ID I
can select that and then run my "Find Usenet Message by ID" service and
it pops up. On my current news reader I have to (gasp!) use the
application menu, but on most programs you can just right-click to get
to these services.

* I have similar services to look words up in various dictionaries and
the like... so if I want to know the meaning of a word I just right
click on it and select "Services Lookup in OneLook" or "Look up in
Urban Dictionary" or one of several other options and it happens. Yes, I
could copy the word, go to the site, paste the word, and then find it...
but much easier to just click and go. If it helps I can make you a video
to show this feature and how I use it.

* There is a tool called Automator that allows me to mix-and-match
features of programs, and do scripting myself (as poor of a scripter as
I am). This allows me to do things like open a set of documents and
websites with a single click and very little setup if I want to change
it, or do things others have talked about like download all recipes from
the home page of recipes.com, or even sillier things like automate
having my background color of my terminal change to match my background
image.

* I also use this feature so when I am viewing YouTube videos I can use
my "download Youtube" service and it offers me a selection of services.
I sometimes have to try a couple before it works -- such is the nature
of downloading YouTube (they really do not want you to be able to easily
do it).

Lots more, really...

****loads more.

that doesn't even begin to scratch the surface.


Absolutely... would love to see what you add to the list. There is
always my famous PDF annotation stuff... but that seems to trigger some
people.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

In article , Snit
wrote:

Can only answer for myself, but the integration between
applications on the desktop with each other and the OS services,
and the integration with my iOS devices, is a huge plus.

I think I follow you here...

I can give examples if you like.

Please do, if you wouldn't mind.

Just a few examples:

* I can be on my iPhone looking at a website and walk up to my iMac. One
click and the site is opened on my Mac. Almost as easy the other way
around.

* I can be on a phone call on my iPhone and walk up to my iMac and
quickly switch to be talking with my headphones connected to my Mac.

* Even just on the Mac, I can create "services" which allow me to get
tasks done more easily. An example: when someone posts a Message ID I
can select that and then run my "Find Usenet Message by ID" service and
it pops up. On my current news reader I have to (gasp!) use the
application menu, but on most programs you can just right-click to get
to these services.

* I have similar services to look words up in various dictionaries and
the like... so if I want to know the meaning of a word I just right
click on it and select "Services Lookup in OneLook" or "Look up in
Urban Dictionary" or one of several other options and it happens. Yes, I
could copy the word, go to the site, paste the word, and then find it...
but much easier to just click and go. If it helps I can make you a video
to show this feature and how I use it.

* There is a tool called Automator that allows me to mix-and-match
features of programs, and do scripting myself (as poor of a scripter as
I am). This allows me to do things like open a set of documents and
websites with a single click and very little setup if I want to change
it, or do things others have talked about like download all recipes from
the home page of recipes.com, or even sillier things like automate
having my background color of my terminal change to match my background
image.

* I also use this feature so when I am viewing YouTube videos I can use
my "download Youtube" service and it offers me a selection of services.
I sometimes have to try a couple before it works -- such is the nature
of downloading YouTube (they really do not want you to be able to easily
do it).

Lots more, really...

****loads more.

that doesn't even begin to scratch the surface.


Absolutely... would love to see what you add to the list. There is
always my famous PDF annotation stuff... but that seems to trigger some
people.

anything mac related does that to some people.

in no particular order:
- login/unlock macs with an apple watch, which can also be used to
authenticate for admin access. this feature was also designed to
determine if the watch is physically near the mac and not a replay
attack to prevent spoofing.
- use an iphone to authenticate an apple pay transaction in a browser,
unless the mac has a touchid sensor, in which case the iphone is not
needed. that's much easier than typing in the payment details for a
purchase, and also benefits from the security of apple pay.
- continuity camera, where the camera on an iphone can be used to add a
photo to an app running on a mac. while most macs have webcams, they
are nowhere near as good as what's on an iphone, nor can they be moved
around as easily.
- bluetooth pair syncing across multiple devices and automatically
detecting which one is in use. it also automatically pauses the audio
when either bud is removed from an ear and resumes when put back,
exactly what you'd want when needing to stop and talk to someone.
- migration/setup assistant for macs and quick start for ios. buy a new
mac or iphone and migrate everything from the old one to the new one
(other than passwords for security reasons) with a couple of clicks or
taps, either wirelessly or wired.
- macos not being tied to a specific computer. swap a drive from one
mac to another and party on, or put it in an external enclosure and
boot that way. no activation, entitlements, driver conflicts, etc.
- boot from a newly installed and completely blank hard drive (or fully
erased what's already there) and install mac os, without needing to
have previously download anything or even format the drive. only an
internet connection needed. no usb sticks, dvds, hollerith cards or
anything else.
- target disk mode, where the mac becomes a very big hard drive to be
used with another computer, including being used to boot the other
computer. this is *extremely* useful to recover data if there's a
hardware failure, but the drive still works.
- copy something to the clipboard on the mac, paste it on an ios
device, or vice versa. extremely handy.
- airdrop to easily and quickly transfer files. also extremely handy.
- personal hotspot.
- pdf is a native file format, no additional software required to read
or write it.
- ms office support, no additional software required.
- applescript
- filevault

and that still only scratches the surface.

On 1/9/20 2:10 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Snit
wrote:

Can only answer for myself, but the integration between
applications on the desktop with each other and the OS services,
and the integration with my iOS devices, is a huge plus.

I think I follow you here...

I can give examples if you like.

Please do, if you wouldn't mind.

Just a few examples:

* I can be on my iPhone looking at a website and walk up to my iMac. One
click and the site is opened on my Mac. Almost as easy the other way
around.

* I can be on a phone call on my iPhone and walk up to my iMac and
quickly switch to be talking with my headphones connected to my Mac.

* Even just on the Mac, I can create "services" which allow me to get
tasks done more easily. An example: when someone posts a Message ID I
can select that and then run my "Find Usenet Message by ID" service and
it pops up. On my current news reader I have to (gasp!) use the
application menu, but on most programs you can just right-click to get
to these services.

* I have similar services to look words up in various dictionaries and
the like... so if I want to know the meaning of a word I just right
click on it and select "Services Lookup in OneLook" or "Look up in
Urban Dictionary" or one of several other options and it happens. Yes, I
could copy the word, go to the site, paste the word, and then find it...
but much easier to just click and go. If it helps I can make you a video
to show this feature and how I use it.

* There is a tool called Automator that allows me to mix-and-match
features of programs, and do scripting myself (as poor of a scripter as
I am). This allows me to do things like open a set of documents and
websites with a single click and very little setup if I want to change
it, or do things others have talked about like download all recipes from
the home page of recipes.com, or even sillier things like automate
having my background color of my terminal change to match my background
image.

* I also use this feature so when I am viewing YouTube videos I can use
my "download Youtube" service and it offers me a selection of services.
I sometimes have to try a couple before it works -- such is the nature
of downloading YouTube (they really do not want you to be able to easily
do it).

Lots more, really...

****loads more.

that doesn't even begin to scratch the surface.


Absolutely... would love to see what you add to the list. There is
always my famous PDF annotation stuff... but that seems to trigger some
people.

anything mac related does that to some people.

in no particular order:

Good list. I do not have an Apple Watch so some of these never occurred
to me to even think of.

- login/unlock macs with an apple watch, which can also be used to
authenticate for admin access. this feature was also designed to
determine if the watch is physically near the mac and not a replay
attack to prevent spoofing.

- use an iphone to authenticate an apple pay transaction in a browser,
unless the mac has a touchid sensor, in which case the iphone is not
needed. that's much easier than typing in the payment details for a
purchase, and also benefits from the security of apple pay.

- continuity camera, where the camera on an iphone can be used to add a
photo to an app running on a mac. while most macs have webcams, they
are nowhere near as good as what's on an iphone, nor can they be moved
around as easily.

This I use fairly often. Yes, it is more beneficial than I thought it
would be when I first got it.

- bluetooth pair syncing across multiple devices and automatically
detecting which one is in use. it also automatically pauses the audio
when either bud is removed from an ear and resumes when put back,
exactly what you'd want when needing to stop and talk to someone.

- migration/setup assistant for macs and quick start for ios. buy a new
mac or iphone and migrate everything from the old one to the new one
(other than passwords for security reasons) with a couple of clicks or
taps, either wirelessly or wired.

Yes. This is amazing... and has worked on my Macs since Classic Mac. Did
have ONE upgrade that caused some issues, and Apple offered to send
someone out to my house to help migrate me if I wanted. I did not... but
I can see where others might.

- macos not being tied to a specific computer. swap a drive from one
mac to another and party on, or put it in an external enclosure and
boot that way. no activation, entitlements, driver conflicts, etc.

- boot from a newly installed and completely blank hard drive (or fully
erased what's already there) and install mac os, without needing to
have previously download anything or even format the drive. only an
internet connection needed. no usb sticks, dvds, hollerith cards or
anything else.

- target disk mode, where the mac becomes a very big hard drive to be
used with another computer, including being used to boot the other
computer. this is *extremely* useful to recover data if there's a
hardware failure, but the drive still works.

Have used this a couple times.

- copy something to the clipboard on the mac, paste it on an ios
device, or vice versa. extremely handy.

Yes. I have used this a number of times. That and having Pages docs and
Notes that automatically update on both (though Pages on the iPhone is
not really a great tool for editing).

- airdrop to easily and quickly transfer files. also extremely handy.

Yes! My family and I use this quite often.

- personal hotspot.

- pdf is a native file format, no additional software required to read
or write it.

And built in annotation tools, and PDF services, etc. Yes. That is a
good benefit.

- ms office support, no additional software required.

And it *mostly* works.

- applescript

What type things do you do with it? I have some scripts to handle things
when I get emails from specific people, etc. Use it mostly in Automator
workflows these days.

- filevault

Good point.

and that still only scratches the surface.

Yup.


--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

In article , Snit
wrote:

- migration/setup assistant for macs and quick start for ios. buy a new
mac or iphone and migrate everything from the old one to the new one
(other than passwords for security reasons) with a couple of clicks or
taps, either wirelessly or wired.

Yes. This is amazing... and has worked on my Macs since Classic Mac. Did
have ONE upgrade that caused some issues, and Apple offered to send
someone out to my house to help migrate me if I wanted. I did not... but
I can see where others might.

what's even more amazing is that you were using it long before it even
existed.

there was migration assistant in classic mac os. it first appeared with
mac os x tiger/10.4.

classic mac os didn't need a migration tool since it was trivial to
migrate with drag/drop.

it can even migrate from windows-mac or android-ios, but with some
limitations. user data, browser bookmarks, email, etc., are all copied,
however, apps, obviously can't be.


- pdf is a native file format, no additional software required to read
or write it.

And built in annotation tools, and PDF services, etc. Yes. That is a
good benefit.

it goes much deeper than that. the entire macos and ios graphics model
is based on pdf, which means that creating apps that can read and write
pdf needs very little code.

- ms office support, no additional software required.

And it *mostly* works.

yep. it's more than adequate to handle word or excel files people
invariably send.

however, if you want full compatibility, you need to pay uncle satya
for the real deal.

- applescript

What type things do you do with it? I have some scripts to handle things
when I get emails from specific people, etc. Use it mostly in Automator
workflows these days.

personally, i don't do much with it (at least not directly) but i know
of *many* people who deeply rely on it.

automator is mainly a gui front end to it.

just thought of another:
- sidecar, where an ipad can be used as a second display on a mac.

On 1/9/20 3:51 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Snit
wrote:

- migration/setup assistant for macs and quick start for ios. buy a new
mac or iphone and migrate everything from the old one to the new one
(other than passwords for security reasons) with a couple of clicks or
taps, either wirelessly or wired.

Yes. This is amazing... and has worked on my Macs since Classic Mac. Did
have ONE upgrade that caused some issues, and Apple offered to send
someone out to my house to help migrate me if I wanted. I did not... but
I can see where others might.

what's even more amazing is that you were using it long before it even
existed.

How does one use something before it exists?

there was migration assistant in classic mac os. it first appeared with
mac os x tiger/10.4.

What I meant is I just upgraded in place... or copied to the new Mac
when I got one. The names of the systems Apple has used has changed over
time.

classic mac os didn't need a migration tool since it was trivial to
migrate with drag/drop.

it can even migrate from windows-mac or android-ios, but with some
limitations. user data, browser bookmarks, email, etc., are all copied,
however, apps, obviously can't be.


- pdf is a native file format, no additional software required to read
or write it.

And built in annotation tools, and PDF services, etc. Yes. That is a
good benefit.

it goes much deeper than that. the entire macos and ios graphics model
is based on pdf, which means that creating apps that can read and write
pdf needs very little code.

Sure. And from the user perspective this means it is easy to use from
pretty much any program.

- ms office support, no additional software required.

And it *mostly* works.

yep. it's more than adequate to handle word or excel files people
invariably send.

however, if you want full compatibility, you need to pay uncle satya
for the real deal.

Right. And it has improved over time.

- applescript

What type things do you do with it? I have some scripts to handle things
when I get emails from specific people, etc. Use it mostly in Automator
workflows these days.

personally, i don't do much with it (at least not directly) but i know
of *many* people who deeply rely on it.

automator is mainly a gui front end to it.

Both rely heavily on AppleEvents.

On iOS I also use "Shortcuts" quite a bit: using it for having quick
call lists, quick access to air quality reports, etc. I really like
it... and see where it has exciting room for growth in the future.

just thought of another:
- sidecar, where an ipad can be used as a second display on a mac.

Sure... though I do not have an iPad. But I know several who use and
love that.


--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

In article , Snit
wrote:

- migration/setup assistant for macs and quick start for ios. buy a new
mac or iphone and migrate everything from the old one to the new one
(other than passwords for security reasons) with a couple of clicks or
taps, either wirelessly or wired.

Yes. This is amazing... and has worked on my Macs since Classic Mac. Did
have ONE upgrade that caused some issues, and Apple offered to send
someone out to my house to help migrate me if I wanted. I did not... but
I can see where others might.

what's even more amazing is that you were using it long before it even
existed.

How does one use something before it exists?

exactly the point.

you weren't using migration assistant with classic mac os.

there was migration assistant in classic mac os. it first appeared with
mac os x tiger/10.4.

What I meant is I just upgraded in place...

that's always worked, but that's not migrating to a new computer.

with classic mac os, upgrading in place was *really* easy, with little
more than dragging the new system folder over and rebooting. the old
system folder did not need to be deleted, although most users did
unless they needed to revert back, notably software developers.

switching among multiple system versions was easy, no partitioning
needed, with as many as could fit on the hard drive (they were small,
so a *lot*) and were compatible with the hardware. life was so much
simpler then

or copied to the new Mac
when I got one. The names of the systems Apple has used has changed over
time.

only macos x had public names, initially cats, now california cities.

classic mac os had internal code names, some of which leaked, but
marketed only as the usual numeric versions.


- applescript

What type things do you do with it? I have some scripts to handle things
when I get emails from specific people, etc. Use it mostly in Automator
workflows these days.

personally, i don't do much with it (at least not directly) but i know
of *many* people who deeply rely on it.

automator is mainly a gui front end to it.

Both rely heavily on AppleEvents.

yep. that's what drives it.

On iOS I also use "Shortcuts" quite a bit: using it for having quick
call lists, quick access to air quality reports, etc. I really like
it... and see where it has exciting room for growth in the future.

ios shortcuts are *extremely* powerful and highly underrated.

On 1/9/20 5:01 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Snit
wrote:

- migration/setup assistant for macs and quick start for ios. buy a new
mac or iphone and migrate everything from the old one to the new one
(other than passwords for security reasons) with a couple of clicks or
taps, either wirelessly or wired.

Yes. This is amazing... and has worked on my Macs since Classic Mac. Did
have ONE upgrade that caused some issues, and Apple offered to send
someone out to my house to help migrate me if I wanted. I did not... but
I can see where others might.

what's even more amazing is that you were using it long before it even
existed.

How does one use something before it exists?

exactly the point.

you weren't using migration assistant with classic mac os.

I was migrating to one OS to another, and one machine to another, with
no issue (except the one noted).

Keep in mind that Apple now has Time Machine, though, so maybe I *was*
using it before it existed!

there was migration assistant in classic mac os. it first appeared with
mac os x tiger/10.4.

What I meant is I just upgraded in place...

that's always worked, but that's not migrating to a new computer.

with classic mac os, upgrading in place was *really* easy, with little
more than dragging the new system folder over and rebooting.

Yes... and you could "bless" either OS.

the old
system folder did not need to be deleted, although most users did
unless they needed to revert back, notably software developers.

switching among multiple system versions was easy, no partitioning
needed, with as many as could fit on the hard drive (they were small,
so a *lot*) and were compatible with the hardware. life was so much
simpler then

In some ways.

or copied to the new Mac
when I got one. The names of the systems Apple has used has changed over
time.

only macos x had public names, initially cats, now california cities.

classic mac os had internal code names, some of which leaked, but
marketed only as the usual numeric versions.

I meant names and tools for migrating. But yes, you are correct (as far
as I know).

- applescript

What type things do you do with it? I have some scripts to handle things
when I get emails from specific people, etc. Use it mostly in Automator
workflows these days.

personally, i don't do much with it (at least not directly) but i know
of *many* people who deeply rely on it.

automator is mainly a gui front end to it.

Both rely heavily on AppleEvents.

yep. that's what drives it.

On iOS I also use "Shortcuts" quite a bit: using it for having quick
call lists, quick access to air quality reports, etc. I really like
it... and see where it has exciting room for growth in the future.

ios shortcuts are *extremely* powerful and highly underrated.

Agreed.


--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

Snit wrote in
:

On 1/9/20 3:51 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Snit
wrote:

- migration/setup assistant for macs and quick start for ios. buy a
new mac or iphone and migrate everything from the old one to the
new one (other than passwords for security reasons) with a couple
of clicks or taps, either wirelessly or wired.

Yes. This is amazing... and has worked on my Macs since Classic Mac.
Did have ONE upgrade that caused some issues, and Apple offered to
send someone out to my house to help migrate me if I wanted. I did
not... but I can see where others might.

what's even more amazing is that you were using it long before it
even existed.

How does one use something before it exists?

It's trivial for you snit.
Once again you are caught in one of those "unprovable lies".

Why not tell us one more time how you are honest and honorable, snit.

nospam wrote in
:

In article , Snit
wrote:

- migration/setup assistant for macs and quick start for ios. buy
a new mac or iphone and migrate everything from the old one to
the new one (other than passwords for security reasons) with a
couple of clicks or taps, either wirelessly or wired.

Yes. This is amazing... and has worked on my Macs since Classic
Mac. Did have ONE upgrade that caused some issues, and Apple
offered to send someone out to my house to help migrate me if I
wanted. I did not... but I can see where others might.

what's even more amazing is that you were using it long before it
even existed.

How does one use something before it exists?

exactly the point.

Snit gets caught once again in yet another one of his "unprovable lies".

nospam wrote in
:

In article , Snit
wrote:

- migration/setup assistant for macs and quick start for ios. buy
a new mac or iphone and migrate everything from the old one to
the new one (other than passwords for security reasons) with a
couple of clicks or taps, either wirelessly or wired.

Yes. This is amazing... and has worked on my Macs since Classic
Mac. Did have ONE upgrade that caused some issues, and Apple
offered to send someone out to my house to help migrate me if I
wanted. I did not... but I can see where others might.

what's even more amazing is that you were using it long before it
even existed.

How does one use something before it exists?

exactly the point.

you weren't using migration assistant with classic mac os.

Snit gets caught in yet another lie.
Why does snit Michael Glasser lie so much?

Here are snit's methods for lying:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190529...icpenguin.com/
snitLieMethods.html


Psychopath Snit Michael Glasser's Techniques For Lying

1. Lies by simply making things up.

2. Lies by omission.

3. Lies by intentionally misunderstanding or misinterpreting.

4. Lies by exaggeration.

5. Lies by quoting out of context.

6. Lies by misquoting.

7. Lies by ignoring refutations of his lies and other bad
behavior. This enables him to always claim that he "won"
the debate. It is the height of dishonesty.

8. Lies by introducing nonsense, e.g., "Marshmallow Men".

9. Lies by invalid generalization.

10. Lies by reversing implication, e.g., "Firetrucks are red,
this apple is red, therefore this apple is a firetruck."

11. Lies by "straw man" -- falsely attributing a bogus (often
exaggerated) claim to the person he's attacking, then refuting it.

12. Lies by claiming the person he's attacking "changed his story"
or "moved the goalposts" whenever the person clarified what he
said in order to refute Snit's previous lie about it.

13. Lies by claiming the person he's attacking "whines" or "babbles".
He never says that about his anti-Linux propaganda partners.

14. Lies by claiming the person he's attacking "ran away" if they
don't obey his commands and meet his demands exactly.

15. Lies by claiming that the person he's attacking is a member of
"the herd" and therefore is not capable of independent thought
and should not be listened to. Snit uses this attack only
against Linux users.

16. Lies by refusing to make common-sense connections among facts
that he's given. In that way he stalls or kills the discussion.
He ignores facts without explicitly refuting them, which allows
him to kill the discussion without looking bad.

17. Lies by introducing personal attacks and nonsense arguments
and claims into the discussion, in order to motivate the person
he's attacking to withdraw from the discussion. Glasser then
claims victory.

18. Lies by refusing to believe anything remembered by the person he's
attacking, and saying that it's irrelevant, when it isn't. Example:
"some recollection of what you think you remember from 10 years ago
is not on topic or of interest".

19. Lies by claiming that the person he's attacking is mentally ill.
He repeatedly offers to find the person help in overcoming his
alleged "illness". Snit Michael Glasser is a psychopath who
pretends to be a psychologist.

20. Lies by falsely attributing negative emotions to the person
he's attacking, when they haven't displayed any at all.

Examples: "shows rage", "got really, really angry. Furious",
"absolute *rage*", "freaks out", "lashes out", "lash out
with anger", "major hate-spewing", "really hates learning",
"****es the herd off", "lash out with *extreme* hatred and anger",
"*major* attack mode", "humiliating", "getting ****ed off",
"Such hatred and anger from you", "you are just freaking out.
Enraged. Completely unable to control yourself.", "freak out mode",
"You are on a hate-filled rampage", "Filled with rage and obvious
hatred", "hate-filled, enraged lies, attacks, insults, name calling",
"lash out with such fury", "you freaked out", "has you ****ed off",
"spewing such hate-filled lies and attacks", "you are so upset
recently", "Amazing how little self control you have",
"hate-filled attack mode", "freak out and go into major attack
mode", "hate-filled, fear-filled attacks", "hate-and-fear-filled
attacks", "you run away spewing hate-filled attacks", "fearful",
"hate-filled dishonest attack rants", "Completely irrational,
hate-filled nonsense", "run and whine and attack...fear",
"get angry and lash out", "runs away crying", "hate-filled spree
of attacks", "freaked out even more! Holy cow!", "massive
hate-filled irrational rage", "irrational hate filled attacks",
"hatred and feelings of persecution", "enraged... unable to focus
or think. He is in a massive hate-filled irrational rage where all
he can do is lash out", "lashes out with hate-filled rants",
"You are enraged... beside yourself with anger. Unable to control
yourself", "obvious hatred", "You have a strong persecution complex",
"Holy cow! You lost it! You became enraged and increased your name
calling and accusations and insults. You just could not stop yourself
- you were out of control!", "This was too much for you. Wow. You
just completely lost it", "you just attack, attack, attack. ...
Wow... you really have lost it. I wish you the best!",
"threw a toddler tantrum", "cannot stop himself from posting
outrageous hate-filled attacks and insults and lies",
"clearly very frustrated", "you lash out with insults, attacks,
and your ever-present view of your persecution", "pretty much
belittles anyone", "special form of arrogance and conceit",
"put others down", "calm down", "amazingly bent out of shape",
"you are so filled with hatred and anger and the inescapable need
to call people names", "You are a very, very angry person!",
"so angry and out of control"

In article , Snit
wrote:

- migration/setup assistant for macs and quick start for ios. buy a new
mac or iphone and migrate everything from the old one to the new one
(other than passwords for security reasons) with a couple of clicks or
taps, either wirelessly or wired.

Yes. This is amazing... and has worked on my Macs since Classic Mac. Did
have ONE upgrade that caused some issues, and Apple offered to send
someone out to my house to help migrate me if I wanted. I did not... but
I can see where others might.

what's even more amazing is that you were using it long before it even
existed.

How does one use something before it exists?

exactly the point.

you weren't using migration assistant with classic mac os.

I was migrating to one OS to another, and one machine to another, with
no issue (except the one noted).

Keep in mind that Apple now has Time Machine, though, so maybe I *was*
using it before it existed!

true, and time machine is another cool bit of technology.

plug in a new hard drive, it asks if you want to use it for backups,
say yes, and that's it. there are some options to tweak for those who
care about those things, but most people won't need to bother.

there was migration assistant in classic mac os. it first appeared with
mac os x tiger/10.4.

What I meant is I just upgraded in place...

that's always worked, but that's not migrating to a new computer.

with classic mac os, upgrading in place was *really* easy, with little
more than dragging the new system folder over and rebooting.

Yes... and you could "bless" either OS.

yep, and not between two, but any of several.

there was also a way to boot without a full system. some games did that
so that you could boot the floppy disk directly into the game itself.

the old
system folder did not need to be deleted, although most users did
unless they needed to revert back, notably software developers.

switching among multiple system versions was easy, no partitioning
needed, with as many as could fit on the hard drive (they were small,
so a *lot*) and were compatible with the hardware. life was so much
simpler then

In some ways.

mostly

or copied to the new Mac
when I got one. The names of the systems Apple has used has changed over
time.

only macos x had public names, initially cats, now california cities.

classic mac os had internal code names, some of which leaked, but
marketed only as the usual numeric versions.

I meant names and tools for migrating. But yes, you are correct (as far
as I know).

well, there weren't any tools to migrate back then, other than just
copying as one normally would. such tools weren't needed.

On 1/9/20 5:58 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Snit
wrote:

- migration/setup assistant for macs and quick start for ios. buy a new
mac or iphone and migrate everything from the old one to the new one
(other than passwords for security reasons) with a couple of clicks or
taps, either wirelessly or wired.

Yes. This is amazing... and has worked on my Macs since Classic Mac. Did
have ONE upgrade that caused some issues, and Apple offered to send
someone out to my house to help migrate me if I wanted. I did not... but
I can see where others might.

what's even more amazing is that you were using it long before it even
existed.

How does one use something before it exists?

exactly the point.

you weren't using migration assistant with classic mac os.

I was migrating to one OS to another, and one machine to another, with
no issue (except the one noted).

Keep in mind that Apple now has Time Machine, though, so maybe I *was*
using it before it existed!

true, and time machine is another cool bit of technology.

plug in a new hard drive, it asks if you want to use it for backups,
say yes, and that's it. there are some options to tweak for those who
care about those things, but most people won't need to bother.

Yup. I currently have two back up driver with it... and one of the
drives is a large enough one to also work on our network so my family
can back up their Macs.

there was migration assistant in classic mac os. it first appeared with
mac os x tiger/10.4.

What I meant is I just upgraded in place...

that's always worked, but that's not migrating to a new computer.

with classic mac os, upgrading in place was *really* easy, with little
more than dragging the new system folder over and rebooting.

Yes... and you could "bless" either OS.

yep, and not between two, but any of several.

there was also a way to boot without a full system. some games did that
so that you could boot the floppy disk directly into the game itself.

Right. I just liked the term "bless".

the old
system folder did not need to be deleted, although most users did
unless they needed to revert back, notably software developers.

switching among multiple system versions was easy, no partitioning
needed, with as many as could fit on the hard drive (they were small,
so a *lot*) and were compatible with the hardware. life was so much
simpler then

In some ways.

mostly

or copied to the new Mac
when I got one. The names of the systems Apple has used has changed over
time.

only macos x had public names, initially cats, now california cities.

classic mac os had internal code names, some of which leaked, but
marketed only as the usual numeric versions.

I meant names and tools for migrating. But yes, you are correct (as far
as I know).

well, there weren't any tools to migrate back then, other than just
copying as one normally would. such tools weren't needed.

Fair enough. I could have been more careful / precise with my language.
Mostly was just saying it has been, with one exception, trivial to
upgrade and migrate to new machines since the 1990s. That is really
quite amazing when you think about it.


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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 2020-01-09, Snit wrote:
Absolutely... would love to see what you add to the list. There is
always my famous PDF annotation stuff... but that seems to trigger some
people.

Oh please, post the link so everyone here can see what a ****ing retard
you are. Go ahead, post it.

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mGhost wrote:
On 2020-01-09, Snit wrote:
Absolutely... would love to see what you add to the list. There is
always my famous PDF annotation stuff... but that seems to trigger some
people.

Oh please, post the link so everyone here can see what a ****ing retard
you are. Go ahead, post it.


You beg for help poorly.

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somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.