16 Bit Application Won't Run

I have a handy little 16 bit application called "All The Time"which has
been running on my xp computer for several years.
About two weeks ago for no reason I can see it quit running.
It doesn't need to be install, It simply runs from its folder. It
previously opened and ran fine when the icon was clicked on.
I have tried several of the recommended solutions on the web but none of
them work.
Can anyone help?
Thanks,
Chuck

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:29:13 -0700, ka6uup wrote:
I have a handy little 16 bit application called "All The Time"which has
been running on my xp computer for several years.
About two weeks ago for no reason I can see it quit running.
It doesn't need to be install, It simply runs from its folder. It
previously opened and ran fine when the icon was clicked on.

It's difficult to tell without any description on how it "won't run".

Any error message?
Do other 16-bit programs won't run too?
Did you install anything in the past two weeks?
Did you change anything that might affect the system globally? e.g.:
third-party tweaker or cleaner.

I have tried several of the recommended solutions on the web but none of
them work.

What have you tried, exactly?

When I click on the icon, the little hourglass comes on for about 10
seconds and then nothing.
I did a repair of the config.nt and autoexec.nt files.

JJ wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:29:13 -0700, ka6uup wrote:
I have a handy little 16 bit application called "All The Time"which has
been running on my xp computer for several years.
About two weeks ago for no reason I can see it quit running.
It doesn't need to be install, It simply runs from its folder. It
previously opened and ran fine when the icon was clicked on.

It's difficult to tell without any description on how it "won't run".

Any error message?
Do other 16-bit programs won't run too?
Did you install anything in the past two weeks?
Did you change anything that might affect the system globally? e.g.:
third-party tweaker or cleaner.

I have tried several of the recommended solutions on the web but none of
them work.

What have you tried, exactly?

On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 4:19:36 PM UTC-5, ka6uup wrote:
When I click on the icon, the little hourglass comes on for about 10

seconds and then nothing.

I did a repair of the config.nt and autoexec.nt files.



JJ wrote:

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:29:13 -0700, ka6uup wrote:

I have a handy little 16 bit application called "All The Time"which has

been running on my xp computer for several years.

About two weeks ago for no reason I can see it quit running.

It doesn't need to be install, It simply runs from its folder. It

previously opened and ran fine when the icon was clicked on.



It's difficult to tell without any description on how it "won't run".



Any error message?

Do other 16-bit programs won't run too?

Did you install anything in the past two weeks?

Did you change anything that might affect the system globally? e.g.:

third-party tweaker or cleaner.



I have tried several of the recommended solutions on the web but none of

them work.



What have you tried, exactly?



If the program has an icon, it is not 16 bit, unless you associated an icon with the program.

I would reinstall it.

Do you run it from cmd.exe or command.com ?

Andy

ka6uup wrote:
When I click on the icon, the little hourglass comes on for about 10
seconds and then nothing.
I did a repair of the config.nt and autoexec.nt files.

What happens if you open a command prompt window,
CD to the folder with the executable, and run it
from the command prompt ? Any error message ?

This article suggests that Ntvdm.exe and wowexec.exe are
part of making a 16 bit application run.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/320127

Paul


JJ wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:29:13 -0700, ka6uup wrote:
I have a handy little 16 bit application called "All The Time"which has
been running on my xp computer for several years.
About two weeks ago for no reason I can see it quit running.
It doesn't need to be install, It simply runs from its folder. It
previously opened and ran fine when the icon was clicked on.

It's difficult to tell without any description on how it "won't run".

Any error message?
Do other 16-bit programs won't run too?
Did you install anything in the past two weeks?
Did you change anything that might affect the system globally? e.g.:
third-party tweaker or cleaner.

I have tried several of the recommended solutions on the web but none of
them work.

What have you tried, exactly?

From: "ka6uup"

When I click on the icon, the little hourglass comes on for about 10
seconds and then nothing.
I did a repair of the config.nt and autoexec.nt files.

JJ wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:29:13 -0700, ka6uup wrote:
I have a handy little 16 bit application called "All The Time"which has
been running on my xp computer for several years.
About two weeks ago for no reason I can see it quit running.
It doesn't need to be install, It simply runs from its folder. It
previously opened and ran fine when the icon was clicked on.

It's difficult to tell without any description on how it "won't run".

Any error message?
Do other 16-bit programs won't run too?
Did you install anything in the past two weeks?
Did you change anything that might affect the system globally? e.g.:
third-party tweaker or cleaner.

I have tried several of the recommended solutions on the web but none of
them work.

What have you tried, exactly?



Don't choose the icon.

Go to the folder where the program is located and choose it. See if it
works and recreate the PIF/LNK that launches the program.

--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

Andy wrote:
On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 4:19:36 PM UTC-5, ka6uup wrote:
When I click on the icon, the little hourglass comes on for about 10

seconds and then nothing.

I did a repair of the config.nt and autoexec.nt files.



JJ wrote:

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:29:13 -0700, ka6uup wrote:

I have a handy little 16 bit application called "All The Time"which has

been running on my xp computer for several years.

About two weeks ago for no reason I can see it quit running.

It doesn't need to be install, It simply runs from its folder. It

previously opened and ran fine when the icon was clicked on.



It's difficult to tell without any description on how it "won't run".



Any error message?

Do other 16-bit programs won't run too?

Did you install anything in the past two weeks?

Did you change anything that might affect the system globally? e.g.:

third-party tweaker or cleaner.



I have tried several of the recommended solutions on the web but none of

them work.



What have you tried, exactly?



If the program has an icon, it is not 16 bit, unless you associated an icon with the program.

I would reinstall it.

Do you run it from cmd.exe or command.com ?

Andy

Apparently it is not a 16 bit program then.
It unzips to a folder with all necessary files in it.
Several of the files have to be installed in the Windows System folder.
then you click on the icon and it runs.
It is not installed as such.
I have been using it for so long I have forgotten whether it was a Win
95 or Win 98 program.

Chuck

ka6uup wrote:
Andy wrote:
On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 4:19:36 PM UTC-5, ka6uup wrote:
When I click on the icon, the little hourglass comes on for about 10

seconds and then nothing.

I did a repair of the config.nt and autoexec.nt files.



JJ wrote:

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:29:13 -0700, ka6uup wrote:

I have a handy little 16 bit application called "All The Time"which
has

been running on my xp computer for several years.

About two weeks ago for no reason I can see it quit running.

It doesn't need to be install, It simply runs from its folder. It

previously opened and ran fine when the icon was clicked on.



It's difficult to tell without any description on how it "won't run".



Any error message?

Do other 16-bit programs won't run too?

Did you install anything in the past two weeks?

Did you change anything that might affect the system globally? e.g.:

third-party tweaker or cleaner.



I have tried several of the recommended solutions on the web but
none of

them work.



What have you tried, exactly?



If the program has an icon, it is not 16 bit, unless you associated an
icon with the program.

I would reinstall it.

Do you run it from cmd.exe or command.com ?

Andy

Apparently it is not a 16 bit program then.
It unzips to a folder with all necessary files in it.
Several of the files have to be installed in the Windows System folder.
then you click on the icon and it runs.
It is not installed as such.
I have been using it for so long I have forgotten whether it was a Win
95 or Win 98 program.

Chuck
I Should have said copied to the Windows System file.

David H. Lipman wrote:
From: "ka6uup"

When I click on the icon, the little hourglass comes on for about 10
seconds and then nothing.
I did a repair of the config.nt and autoexec.nt files.

JJ wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:29:13 -0700, ka6uup wrote:
I have a handy little 16 bit application called "All The Time"which has
been running on my xp computer for several years.
About two weeks ago for no reason I can see it quit running.
It doesn't need to be install, It simply runs from its folder. It
previously opened and ran fine when the icon was clicked on.

It's difficult to tell without any description on how it "won't run".

Any error message?
Do other 16-bit programs won't run too?
Did you install anything in the past two weeks?
Did you change anything that might affect the system globally? e.g.:
third-party tweaker or cleaner.

I have tried several of the recommended solutions on the web but
none of
them work.

What have you tried, exactly?



Don't choose the icon.

Go to the folder where the program is located and choose it. See if it
works and recreate the PIF/LNK that launches the program.

I have no idea what you are talking about. PIF/LNK???

From: "ka6uup"

David H. Lipman wrote:
From: "ka6uup"

When I click on the icon, the little hourglass comes on for about 10
seconds and then nothing.
I did a repair of the config.nt and autoexec.nt files.

JJ wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:29:13 -0700, ka6uup wrote:
I have a handy little 16 bit application called "All The Time"which
has
been running on my xp computer for several years.
About two weeks ago for no reason I can see it quit running.
It doesn't need to be install, It simply runs from its folder. It
previously opened and ran fine when the icon was clicked on.

It's difficult to tell without any description on how it "won't run".

Any error message?
Do other 16-bit programs won't run too?
Did you install anything in the past two weeks?
Did you change anything that might affect the system globally? e.g.:
third-party tweaker or cleaner.

I have tried several of the recommended solutions on the web but
none of
them work.

What have you tried, exactly?

Don't choose the icon.

Go to the folder where the program is located and choose it. See if it
works and recreate the PIF/LNK that launches the program.

I have no idea what you are talking about. PIF/LNK???

How long have you been using a computer ?

--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

ka6uup wrote:
I have a handy little 16 bit application called "All The Time"which has
been running on my xp computer for several years.
About two weeks ago for no reason I can see it quit running.
It doesn't need to be install, It simply runs from its folder. It
previously opened and ran fine when the icon was clicked on.
I have tried several of the recommended solutions on the web but none of
them work.
Can anyone help?
Thanks,
Chuck

OK, I went into the ATT folder and tried opening the exe file and
received an error message that said the runtime.dll file was the wrong
version.

ka6uup wrote:
ka6uup wrote:
I have a handy little 16 bit application called "All The Time"which has
been running on my xp computer for several years.
About two weeks ago for no reason I can see it quit running.
It doesn't need to be install, It simply runs from its folder. It
previously opened and ran fine when the icon was clicked on.
I have tried several of the recommended solutions on the web but none of
them work.
Can anyone help?
Thanks,
Chuck

OK, I went into the ATT folder and tried opening the exe file and
received an error message that said the runtime.dll file was the wrong
version.

Can you give a *link* to the source website of the application ?
Using "All The Time" as a search time, is getting me gibberish for
search results.

Also, quote the *exact text* of the error message. There are several
kinds of helpers for executables.

DLL built by the developer
Visual Studio helpers, like MSVCRT.dll (multiple versions, different year of intro)
.NET stuff (for dotNET programs)
JAVA stuff (for JAVA programs)

for the Visual Studio ones, they can be stuffed into the application folder,
or in a System folder.

And a developer, if not careful, can fit a "time bomb" into code,
which can cause it to stop functioning on an arbitrary date. In many
cases, this is unintentional (or, so they claim).

I can't think of too many mechanisms, that would cause a desirable version
of a helper, to just... disappear. Normally, new versions are added in
parallel. A file may be patched for security reasons, but its main identifiers
would not change (the loader would see the same info as before). The version
of the file, like 6.1.7694.3 might change after a patch, but it would
still be MSVCRT71.dll or whatever. And probing it with something like
Dependency Walker, should show the same kinds of details. Patching
a file, should not change the declarations inside it.

It's possible an AV program could quarantine a desirable file.
In which case, you'd look in whatever folder is used for quarantining,
for a hint. I would be betting on an AV incident, before blaming
Windows Update.

So there's an idea. Name any AV you happen to be using.

Paul

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 19:08:32 -0700, "ka6uup" wrote
in article ...

David H. Lipman wrote:
From: "ka6uup"

When I click on the icon, the little hourglass comes on for about 10
seconds and then nothing.
I did a repair of the config.nt and autoexec.nt files.

JJ wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:29:13 -0700, ka6uup wrote:
I have a handy little 16 bit application called "All The Time"which has
been running on my xp computer for several years.
About two weeks ago for no reason I can see it quit running.
It doesn't need to be install, It simply runs from its folder. It
previously opened and ran fine when the icon was clicked on.

It's difficult to tell without any description on how it "won't run".

Any error message?
Do other 16-bit programs won't run too?
Did you install anything in the past two weeks?
Did you change anything that might affect the system globally? e.g.:
third-party tweaker or cleaner.

I have tried several of the recommended solutions on the web but
none of
them work.

What have you tried, exactly?



Don't choose the icon.

Go to the folder where the program is located and choose it. See if it
works and recreate the PIF/LNK that launches the program.

I have no idea what you are talking about. PIF/LNK???

PIF/LNK = shortcut.

--
Zaphod

The secret of flying is to hurl yourself to the ground, and miss.

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 23:28:31 -0400, "David H. Lipman"
wrote in article
. ..

From: "ka6uup"

David H. Lipman wrote:
From: "ka6uup"

When I click on the icon, the little hourglass comes on for about 10
seconds and then nothing.
I did a repair of the config.nt and autoexec.nt files.

JJ wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:29:13 -0700, ka6uup wrote:
I have a handy little 16 bit application called "All The Time"which
has
been running on my xp computer for several years.
About two weeks ago for no reason I can see it quit running.
It doesn't need to be install, It simply runs from its folder. It
previously opened and ran fine when the icon was clicked on.

It's difficult to tell without any description on how it "won't run".

Any error message?
Do other 16-bit programs won't run too?
Did you install anything in the past two weeks?
Did you change anything that might affect the system globally? e.g.:
third-party tweaker or cleaner.

I have tried several of the recommended solutions on the web but
none of
them work.

What have you tried, exactly?

Don't choose the icon.

Go to the folder where the program is located and choose it. See if it
works and recreate the PIF/LNK that launches the program.

I have no idea what you are talking about. PIF/LNK???

How long have you been using a computer ?

Has nothing to do with how long someone has been using a computer, has
much more to do with how they approach said task - as a computer user
who just wants things to work so they can get things done, or as a
technical user who wants to understand how things work. There is
nothing wrong with wanting to be a computer user rather than a
technical user, but it does take a different approach by those wishing
to assist.

--
Zaphod

Voted "Worst Dressed Sentient Being in the Known Universe" for seven
years in a row.

"ka6uup" wrote in message ...
I have a handy little 16 bit application called "All The Time"which has
been running on my xp computer for several years.
About two weeks ago for no reason I can see it quit running.
It doesn't need to be install, It simply runs from its folder. It
previously opened and ran fine when the icon was clicked on.
I have tried several of the recommended solutions on the web but none of
them work.
Can anyone help?
Thanks,
Chuck

Recopy the program's files to its folder.

Ben