Surprise!

KenK wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

What old UPS brand and model do you have?

Emerson UPS 600

Closest I could find of what they are offering now is:

http://www.emerson.com/catalog/en-us...ems/solahd-s1k

While the specs mention a DB-9 (serial) interface, there is no mention
of a special cable (maybe they didn't putz with the signaling) but also
no mention of software. However:

http://www.emerson.com/documents/automation/164182.pdf

mentions "cable and software included". I found no links to downloads.
Guess you'll have to contact them at:

http://www.emerson.com/en-us/contact-us
Picking "solahd" under Automatic Solutions took me to:
http://www.emersonindustrial.com/en-...s/aboutus.aspx

At neither domain did I find a support or download page. Unfortunately
they are a sticker-branding company. They don't build anything on which
they slap their brand sticker. They are into a wide range of products
that are all over the place on types of products or services and rebrand
from the lowest-cost manufacturer.

I found some association of Emerson with Liebert who has their multilink
software. Some more searching found:

http://www.emerson.com/catalog/en-us/solahd-multilink

Alas, it says "Requirements: A UPS with its model beginning S4K." That
probably means the versions they carry and will support (from wherever
they get the software) are only the latest versions so there is some
limitation on what models they support.

Have you tried using the UPS support already in Windows XP (designed for
APC) to see if it works with your old UPS? There's a chance that
Emerson or whomever wrote the software used the same command set as APC.

https://www.vertivco.com/en-us/produ.../liebert-iton/

That Liebert 600VA UPS looks similar and, as mentioned, there appears
some association between Emerson and Liebert. Like Emerson, Liebert
doesn't offer any software downloads.

I suspect you are screwed trying to get Emerson's or Libert's software
for that old UPS. Maybe APC-coded UPS support in Windows might work.

https://www.microsoft.com/resources/....mspx?mfr=true

I found this site:

http://networkupstools.org/ups-protocols.html

that describes the communications protocol used by several brands of
UPSes. For APC, their page is:

http://networkupstools.org/protocols/apcsmart.html

Alas, it looks like APC employed a wiring hack for their cable and why I
mentioned before that a special cable might be needed that has "UPS"
marked on one end, or you can make your own.

VanguardLH wrote in :

KenK wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

What old UPS brand and model do you have?

Emerson UPS 600

Closest I could find of what they are offering now is:

http://www.emerson.com/catalog/en-us.../electrical-co
mponents-lighting/uninterruptible-power-systems/solahd-s1k

While the specs mention a DB-9 (serial) interface, there is no mention
of a special cable (maybe they didn't putz with the signaling) but
also no mention of software. However:

http://www.emerson.com/documents/automation/164182.pdf

mentions "cable and software included". I found no links to
downloads. Guess you'll have to contact them at:

http://www.emerson.com/en-us/contact-us
Picking "solahd" under Automatic Solutions took me to:
http://www.emersonindustrial.com/en-.../aboutus/conta
ctus/Pages/aboutus.aspx

At neither domain did I find a support or download page.
Unfortunately they are a sticker-branding company. They don't build
anything on which they slap their brand sticker. They are into a wide
range of products that are all over the place on types of products or
services and rebrand from the lowest-cost manufacturer.

I found some association of Emerson with Liebert who has their
multilink software. Some more searching found:

http://www.emerson.com/catalog/en-us/solahd-multilink

Alas, it says "Requirements: A UPS with its model beginning S4K."
That probably means the versions they carry and will support (from
wherever they get the software) are only the latest versions so there
is some limitation on what models they support.

Have you tried using the UPS support already in Windows XP (designed
for APC) to see if it works with your old UPS? There's a chance that
Emerson or whomever wrote the software used the same command set as
APC.

https://www.vertivco.com/en-us/produ...power/uninterr
uptible-power-supplies-ups/liebert-iton/

That Liebert 600VA UPS looks similar and, as mentioned, there appears
some association between Emerson and Liebert. Like Emerson, Liebert
doesn't offer any software downloads.

I suspect you are screwed trying to get Emerson's or Libert's software
for that old UPS. Maybe APC-coded UPS support in Windows might work.

https://www.microsoft.com/resources/.../xp/all/proddo
cs/en-us/pwrmn_ups_configure_ups.mspx?mfr=true

I found this site:

http://networkupstools.org/ups-protocols.html

that describes the communications protocol used by several brands of
UPSes. For APC, their page is:

http://networkupstools.org/protocols/apcsmart.html

Alas, it looks like APC employed a wiring hack for their cable and why
I mentioned before that a special cable might be needed that has "UPS"
marked on one end, or you can make your own.


Thank you so much for all your help and research. I'm very grateful.

I printed out your message and will absorb it and plan some reseach
later.


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KenK wrote in
:

I was innocently doing some Google searching with the Srware Iron
browser and had just clicked on a Walmart site. While waiting for it
to load I looked away to do something else and when I looked back the
computer was booting!

I vaguely recall a similar reboot many many years ago but not again
for many years. Something to be concerned about or just a seldom-seen
XP bug?

If it matters using Kaspersky virus protection.

XP Home with SP3

TIA


Happened again. Twice. Using SRWare Iron Browser. Google for a Walmart
site. Then clicked on it. Site started to display. Computer rebooted!
Tried again. Another reboot.

Tried Firefox. No reboot.

Evidently something about the Walmart server SRWare doesn't like.

This eliminates the previous power-bump cause suggestion. I'd switch back
to Firefox but SRware is so VERY much faster. No comparison. I'll have to
remember not to visit Walmart with this browser. What next? g




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I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.

KenK wrote:

Happened again. Twice. Using SRWare Iron Browser. Google for a Walmart
site. Then clicked on it. Site started to display. Computer rebooted!
Tried again. Another reboot.

Tried Firefox. No reboot.

Evidently something about the Walmart server SRWare doesn't like.

This eliminates the previous power-bump cause suggestion. I'd switch back
to Firefox but SRware is so VERY much faster. No comparison. I'll have to
remember not to visit Walmart with this browser. What next? g

Have you installed and add-ons or did it come with some pre-installed
add-ons? I'd disabled those or test Iron when loaded in its safe mode.

Although I dislike all its tentacles (which I've snipped off after
installation), I moved to Google Chrome as my primary web browser.
There are other Chromium variants, like your Srware Iron, but often they
lag on security updates. Like Firefox's ESR versioning branch, the
variants often wait for several minor versions to elapse for Chromium
before gloming onto a major version's code branch. Google Chrome
updates every time there is an update which I neutered in Task Scheduler
and have UAC enabled which neuters the About - Help check on version
that actually does an update. Google, as did Mozilla once, thinks
"check" means "get".

I suspect Srware Iron is a straight Chromium derivative and both are
open sourceware. On the other hand, Google Chrome, while Chromium
based, has some proprietary Google code in that client.

Did you install the 32-bit or 64-bit version of Srware Iron? At
http://www.srware.net/en/software_sr...n_download.php, the big
"Download" link is probably for their 32-bit version -- mostly because
they have a separate download link for their 64-bit version. I've
found, for example, that the 32-bit version of Firefox would hang more
often. Remnant processes were left in memory that interfered with the
next load of Firefox, so much so that I created a shortcut to kill all
instances of firefox.exe, flashplayerplugin, and plugin-container.exe.
The 64-bit version of Firefox exhibits the problem far less often.

If you're looking for a small variant of Chromium that is designed to be
most secure, you might want to look at the Epic web browser.

https://www.epicbrowser.com/

One of its features, very similar to using Opera's VPN service, is to
use their VPN. That will hide your IP address and prevent even your ISP
knowing to where you visit (other than knowing you are connecting to
Epic's VPN server, that is). Of course, with *every* VPN provider, you
have to assume they don't track to where you visit. After all, you
still have to tell them the final destination (target host). That's the
same for entry nodes into the Tor/Onion network; however, it is highly
unlikely you will know or can find out exactly how is the entry node
operator. In all cases, if your web traffic is encrypted (HTTPS) then
the VPN or Tor operator cannot see the content of your traffic but they
still know to where you want to visit. They do hide from the target
host where you are.

I trialed Epic for awhile but missed having the extensions (aka add-ons)
to customize its behaviors or features. Extensions are both a security
and privacy risk and Epic is all about protecting both. Only a few
add-ons are trusted and can be installed into Epic but I don't which
ones those are and there is no add-ons listing page at their web site.
Maybe their client connects to their online store to present which
add-ons are allowed. Epic stays very current to the latest Chromium
release. My Google Chrome is at 58.0.3029.110 (I've not updated to 59).
Epic is also at the 59 release version. So unlike some other variants,
Srware looks to be staying current with the Chromium release schedule.

VanguardLH wrote in :

KenK wrote:

Happened again. Twice. Using SRWare Iron Browser. Google for a
Walmart site. Then clicked on it. Site started to display. Computer
rebooted! Tried again. Another reboot.

Tried Firefox. No reboot.

Evidently something about the Walmart server SRWare doesn't like.

This eliminates the previous power-bump cause suggestion. I'd switch
back to Firefox but SRware is so VERY much faster. No comparison.
I'll have to remember not to visit Walmart with this browser. What
next? g

Have you installed and add-ons or did it come with some pre-installed
add-ons? I'd disabled those or test Iron when loaded in its safe
mode.

No add-ons I'm aware of. The closest thing I can find is 'Apps' and that
lists only 'Web Store'.

Although I dislike all its tentacles (which I've snipped off after
installation), I moved to Google Chrome as my primary web browser.
There are other Chromium variants, like your Srware Iron, but often
they lag on security updates. Like Firefox's ESR versioning branch,
the variants often wait for several minor versions to elapse for
Chromium before gloming onto a major version's code branch. Google
Chrome updates every time there is an update which I neutered in Task
Scheduler and have UAC enabled which neuters the About - Help check
on version that actually does an update. Google, as did Mozilla once,
thinks "check" means "get".

I suspect Srware Iron is a straight Chromium derivative and both are
open sourceware. On the other hand, Google Chrome, while Chromium
based, has some proprietary Google code in that client.

Did you install the 32-bit or 64-bit version of Srware Iron?

It doesn't say. Gives only 49.0.2600.0 as version number. Can't remember
where I DLed it from. Picked a DL site at random with Google. I suspect
it's 32-bit.

At
http://www.srware.net/en/software_sr...n_download.php, the big
"Download" link is probably for their 32-bit version -- mostly because
they have a separate download link for their 64-bit version. I've
found, for example, that the 32-bit version of Firefox would hang more
often. Remnant processes were left in memory that interfered with the
next load of Firefox, so much so that I created a shortcut to kill all
instances of firefox.exe, flashplayerplugin, and plugin-container.exe.
The 64-bit version of Firefox exhibits the problem far less often.

If you're looking for a small variant of Chromium that is designed to
be most secure, you might want to look at the Epic web browser.

https://www.epicbrowser.com/

One of its features, very similar to using Opera's VPN service, is to
use their VPN. That will hide your IP address and prevent even your
ISP knowing to where you visit (other than knowing you are connecting
to Epic's VPN server, that is). Of course, with *every* VPN provider,
you have to assume they don't track to where you visit. After all,
you still have to tell them the final destination (target host).
That's the same for entry nodes into the Tor/Onion network; however,
it is highly unlikely you will know or can find out exactly how is the
entry node operator. In all cases, if your web traffic is encrypted
(HTTPS) then the VPN or Tor operator cannot see the content of your
traffic but they still know to where you want to visit. They do hide
from the target host where you are.

I trialed Epic for awhile but missed having the extensions (aka
add-ons) to customize its behaviors or features. Extensions are both
a security and privacy risk and Epic is all about protecting both.
Only a few add-ons are trusted and can be installed into Epic but I
don't which ones those are and there is no add-ons listing page at
their web site. Maybe their client connects to their online store to
present which add-ons are allowed. Epic stays very current to the
latest Chromium release. My Google Chrome is at 58.0.3029.110 (I've
not updated to 59). Epic is also at the 59 release version. So unlike
some other variants, Srware looks to be staying current with the
Chromium release schedule.




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I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.