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Windows Update Problem
Windows 7 Home and the latest package for June won't install. I get:
"WindowsUpdate_8024200D" "WindowsUpdate_dt000". Suggestions? Thanks! |
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On 6/16/2017 10:15 PM, Debbie wrote:
Windows 7 Home and the latest package for June won't install. I get: "WindowsUpdate_8024200D" "WindowsUpdate_dt000". Suggestions? Thanks! You could start here, Debbie:- https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/contactus/ -- Sometimes man stumbles over the truth. (W.Churchill) |
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On 2017-06-16 17:15, Debbie wrote:
Windows 7 Home and the latest package for June won't install. I get: "WindowsUpdate_8024200D" "WindowsUpdate_dt000". Suggestions? Have a look at "C:\Windows\WindowsUpdate.log" you might find out what 8024200D means. Google might help, but I get 26000 results, find the 1 site that knows that 8024200D means will be difficult, better to check the log first. Regards, -- ! _\|/_ Sylvain / ! (o o) Memberavid-Suzuki-Fdn/EFF/Red+Cross/SPCA/Planetary-Society oO-( )-Oo According 2 Intel, 1+1 equals 3, for very large values of 1. |
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On 6/16/2017 6:31 PM, B00ze wrote:
On 2017-06-16 17:15, Debbie wrote: Windows 7 Home and the latest package for June won't install. I get: "WindowsUpdate_8024200D" "WindowsUpdate_dt000". Suggestions? Have a look at "C:\Windows\WindowsUpdate.log" you might find out what 8024200D means. Google might help, but I get 26000 results, find the 1 site that knows that 8024200D means will be difficult, better to check the log first. Regards, This might help https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...readiness-tool |
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Windows Update Problem
Mike S wrote:
On 6/16/2017 6:31 PM, B00ze wrote: On 2017-06-16 17:15, Debbie wrote: Windows 7 Home and the latest package for June won't install. I get: "WindowsUpdate_8024200D" "WindowsUpdate_dt000". Suggestions? Have a look at "C:\Windows\WindowsUpdate.log" you might find out what 8024200D means. Google might help, but I get 26000 results, find the 1 site that knows that 8024200D means will be difficult, better to check the log first. Regards, This might help https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...readiness-tool At one time, somebody posted that the errors were in a header file (something you might find in Visual Studio), but this article implies you have to look underneath some rocks to find it. https://social.technet.microsoft.com...ror-codes.aspx 0x8024200D WU_E_UH_NEEDANOTHERDOWNLOAD The update handler did not install the update because it needs to be downloaded again. And that, unfortunately, is the equivalent of "Oops! Something went wrong". The message should not be taken at face value. Updates are verified by signature or checksum, and really should have been verified during the BITS stage. To get that message later, implies Windows Update has discovered the file is the wrong one, isn't needed, or some other implausible situation. ******* How I would attack this one, is: 1) Look in the Windows Update history tab. When a KB records a "Success" after a "Failure", that's OK. So if it said "Failed KB12345678 June10,2017" then "Succeeded KB12344567 June11,2017", those cancel out and we know that item was successfully installed and we move on. It's when the history shows a stackup of Failed, one after another, you have to look back at the KB numbers involved. Failed KB4000003 --- The others are "innocent victims" Failed KB4000002 Failed KB4000001 --- Plumbing is jammed here When this happens, I make a list of all the failed updates, their KB numbers, and go here and manually download a .msu for the KB. http://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Home.aspx I install the updates, one by one, until I've done all the failed ones in the stack. Then I can try Windows Update again if I want. Say I was just plain lazy, I might install 4000001 manually. Then reboot the computer, and run Windows Update again. Maybe it will look like this after Windows Update is finished, and the plumbing jam is cleared. Success KB4000003 --- These installed themselves, because jam-up is gone Success KB4000002 Success KB4000001 --- I installed this manually Failed KB4000003 Failed KB4000002 Failed KB4000001 2) Sometimes, Windows Update needs to be reset. This isn't technically as impressive as it sounds. The easiest way to do this, is rename SoftwareDistribution to Softwaredistribution.bak or similar. When the folder is renamed, Windows Update will make a fresh one. By being that "violent", you lose the History listing. That's why you want to do step (1) first. I usually smack around my Win10 Insider Edition like that, because the update history in it is not important. Whereas, for real OSes, you should use that approach as a last step. Instead, we look for an article, with scripts to run. Some of these have "graduated violence". There's a "weaker" reset and a "stronger" reset. You can try the weakest flavor first. Maybe Option 2 would be a place to start. https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...ate-reset.html "It will reset Windows Update Components and re-register the BITS files and the Windows Update files to help fix Windows Update errors. This option will not clear the view update history details list as it does in OPTION ONE above. https://www.sevenforums.com/attachme...components.bat " To use that, you need to know how to run a batch file in an Administrator Command Prompt window. # In Win7, type "cmd" in the start, right-click # on the top-most item in the returned list, then select "Run As Administrator" # from the right-click menu. A Command Prompt window opens, where # the working directory is set to system32. You need to change the # working directory to a more useful location, using the "cd" # change directory command. cd /d C:\path\to\where\you\normally\download\stuff reset_reregister_windows_update_components.bat # My favorite way of getting to my downloads is this way... # Your mileage may vary of course. cd %userprofile% cd Downloads reset_reregister_windows_update_components.bat After you've done that, try a reboot. That's to ensure all the services are in a good state, for your next Windows Update attempt. The script does actually shut down and start up the services properly, so you might say a reboot is overkill, but rebooting is "belt and suspenders". And it's Windows Update. If it wasn't broken, we wouldn't be having any fun. HTH, Paul |
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Windows Update Problem
On 16/06/2017 22:15, Debbie wrote:
Windows 7 Home and the latest package for June won't install. I get: "WindowsUpdate_8024200D" "WindowsUpdate_dt000". Suggestions? Thanks! https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...f-75318c984d45 |
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Windows Update Problem
On 16/06/2017 22:15, Debbie wrote:
Windows 7 Home and the latest package for June won't install. I get: "WindowsUpdate_8024200D" "WindowsUpdate_dt000". Suggestions? Thanks! https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...d-0774b7171251 |
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tall Windows Update Problem SOLVED
Debbie wrote:
Windows 7 Home and the latest package for June won't install. I get: "WindowsUpdate_8024200D" "WindowsUpdate_dt000". Suggestions? Thanks! History: I had just reinstalled Win on a lap top and did all the updates and then removed programs that came with the laptop that I didn't want and removed one I didn't want to remove so I did a system restore to before the last updates. So, today I hid the June roll up because it was already installed, or so I thought. Then May popped up, installed correctly so I un-hid June and it installed correctly. Weird. Now it says it's up-to-date. |
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On 2017-06-17 03:08, Paul wrote:
At one time, somebody posted that the errors were in a header file (something you might find in Visual Studio), but this article implies you have to look underneath some rocks to find it. https://social.technet.microsoft.com...ror-codes.aspx YEARS of me looking for this via Google as I get some WU error have not found this! It should IMHO be in the first 10 results on Google. Once again your superior research talents at work :-) 0x8024200D WU_E_UH_NEEDANOTHERDOWNLOAD The update handler did not install the update because it needs to be downloaded again. And that, unfortunately, is the equivalent of "Oops! Something went wrong". What do you think WU_E_UH means? Might explain why it thinks it needs to be downloaded again (which obviously will not fix the problem). Regards, -- ! _\|/_ Sylvain / ! (o o) Memberavid-Suzuki-Fdn/EFF/Red+Cross/SPCA/Planetary-Society oO-( )-Oo Very funny Scotty! Now beam up my clothes! |
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B00ze wrote:
On 2017-06-17 03:08, Paul wrote: At one time, somebody posted that the errors were in a header file (something you might find in Visual Studio), but this article implies you have to look underneath some rocks to find it. https://social.technet.microsoft.com...ror-codes.aspx YEARS of me looking for this via Google as I get some WU error have not found this! It should IMHO be in the first 10 results on Google. Once again your superior research talents at work :-) 0x8024200D WU_E_UH_NEEDANOTHERDOWNLOAD The update handler did not install the update because it needs to be downloaded again. And that, unfortunately, is the equivalent of "Oops! Something went wrong". What do you think WU_E_UH means? Might explain why it thinks it needs to be downloaded again (which obviously will not fix the problem). Regards, Google assures me that WU_E_UH stands for Windows Update Error Update_Handler Now, what's an Update Handler ? Is it Tiworker ? Is it some module in the Windows Update Reset list ? ******* As for "how do you find 0x8024200D", the more obscure the error, the higher quality the result. If we were working on a 0xC0000005 error, then there would be 20 million results, and I'd end up with adverts for bowling shoes from Walmart or something. When the error numbers are a little less common, sometimes that nets you a canonical error list. ******* There might be an expansion on that error in some log file, but I'm not holding my breath. Our best hope, is the telemetry goes back to Microsoft, and if it's a packaging issue, and they silently fix it. It's my experience though, that using the KB number and getting the update from catalog.update.microsoft.com and then installing it, that seems to work virtually all the time. And those self contained packages do a pretty good job of detecting "not appropriate", as they do have a chunk of "wsusscn"-like materials inside. Paul |
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On 2017-06-19 01:35, Paul wrote:
B00ze wrote: On 2017-06-17 03:08, Paul wrote: At one time, somebody posted that the errors were in a header file (something you might find in Visual Studio), but this article implies you have to look underneath some rocks to find it. https://social.technet.microsoft.com...ror-codes.aspx YEARS of me looking for this via Google as I get some WU error have not found this! It should IMHO be in the first 10 results on Google. Once again your superior research talents at work :-) 0x8024200D WU_E_UH_NEEDANOTHERDOWNLOAD The update handler did not install the update because it needs to be downloaded again. And that, unfortunately, is the equivalent of "Oops! Something went wrong". What do you think WU_E_UH means? Might explain why it thinks it needs to be downloaded again (which obviously will not fix the problem). Regards, Google assures me that WU_E_UH stands for Windows Update Error Update_Handler Now, what's an Update Handler ? Is it Tiworker ? Is it some module in the Windows Update Reset list ? Yeah, unfortunately it tells us nothing :-( As for "how do you find 0x8024200D", the more obscure the error, the higher quality the result. Today at work I had someone with a Windows Update error number. This time, knowing that this list existed, I went to Google and looked for "windows update agent error list blog" and bam, first result! Looking for the specific error number always returned a billion irrelevant results (if you've tried deleting Software Distribution and running the Windows Update troubleshooter, which re-registers all the WU DLLs, then 99% of all Google results are useless). It's nice to know things! Turned out the error meant that there was a timeout getting the data - e.g. network problem... If we were working on a 0xC0000005 error, then there would be 20 million results, and I'd end up with adverts for bowling shoes from Walmart or something. Lol When the error numbers are a little less common, sometimes that nets you a canonical error list. Yeah, but I'd never hit the WU error list before I saw your message... ******* There might be an expansion on that error in some log file, but I'm not holding my breath. Our best hope, is the telemetry goes back to Microsoft, and if it's a packaging issue, and they silently fix it. Sometimes the Windows Update log is helpful, sometimes, but it is hard to read as the technology is complex and outputs a TON of data into the log... It's my experience though, that using the KB number and getting the update from catalog.update.microsoft.com and then installing it, that seems to work virtually all the time. And those self contained packages do a pretty good job of detecting "not appropriate", as they do have a chunk of "wsusscn"-like materials inside. I agree, your proposed solution is sound. Best Regards, -- ! _\|/_ Sylvain / ! (o o) Memberavid-Suzuki-Fdn/EFF/Red+Cross/SPCA/Planetary-Society oO-( )-Oo Have you kissed your doorknob lately? |
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