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Windows 7 Saying "Windows is not genuine" ?



 
 
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Old June 21st 17, 05:44 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default Windows 7 Saying "Windows is not genuine" ?

Mobo bit the big one.

Replaced it with one almost, but not exactly the same.

Rebuilt the system.

Went through the registration process successfully (I think...) and was
mildly surprised there was no issue with the mobo.

But now, some weeks later, Windows 7 is telling me the installation is
not genuine.

When I try online registration, it tells me "Invalid Product Key".

Tried phone activation, but they got the same result. Tried to get
them to transfer me to somebody who could answer the obvious question,
but they would not.

I have used the activation key at least 3 times in the past:

- Initial build of this box.

- A re-build where everything was the same

- The latest re-build where the mobo was slightly
different (something to do with buss voltage control)
but registration was seemingly successful.

Sounds like Windows 7 is going to bite the big one today or tomorrow
(based on MS warning dialogs).

Of course I have backup images, but I'm thinking they are not going to
help unless I can drive a stake through the heart of whatever process
keeps phoning home and getting the "Invalid Installation" notification.

Does this sound familiar to anybody?

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Old June 21st 17, 07:31 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default Windows 7 Saying "Windows is not genuine" ?

(PeteCresswell) wrote:
Mobo bit the big one.

Replaced it with one almost, but not exactly the same.

Rebuilt the system.

Went through the registration process successfully (I think...) and was
mildly surprised there was no issue with the mobo.

But now, some weeks later, Windows 7 is telling me the installation is
not genuine.

When I try online registration, it tells me "Invalid Product Key".

Tried phone activation, but they got the same result. Tried to get
them to transfer me to somebody who could answer the obvious question,
but they would not.

I have used the activation key at least 3 times in the past:

- Initial build of this box.

- A re-build where everything was the same

- The latest re-build where the mobo was slightly
different (something to do with buss voltage control)
but registration was seemingly successful.

Sounds like Windows 7 is going to bite the big one today or tomorrow
(based on MS warning dialogs).

Of course I have backup images, but I'm thinking they are not going to
help unless I can drive a stake through the heart of whatever process
keeps phoning home and getting the "Invalid Installation" notification.

Does this sound familiar to anybody?


slmgr /dlv # display activation/license status

MGADiag # https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=52012

# Post log he
# https://social.microsoft.com/Forums/...tegory=genuine

And this is an example of the help you get.

https://social.microsoft.com/Forums/...enuinewindows7

I don't know if there are any OS version limits on MGADiag.
Like, whether it debugs VLK, or server installs or whatever.

I had a hell of a time remembering what that thing was called.

Paul
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Old June 21st 17, 08:35 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default Windows 7 Saying "Windows is not genuine" ?

PeteCresswell wrote:

Mobo bit the big one. Replaced it with one almost, but not exactly the
same. Rebuilt the system. Went through the registration process successfully (I think...) and was
mildly surprised there was no issue with the mobo.


Registration is NOT activation. Registration merely tells them who you
are. Activation validates your product key.

But now, some weeks later, Windows 7 is telling me the installation is
not genuine.


You hit the 30-day trial period. You registered instead of activated.

When I try online registration, it tells me "Invalid Product Key".


The product key on the sticker might not match the product key of the
installed license. That happens because a manufacturer will use the
same image to build many boxes but runs through sheets of pre-printed
stickers to put onto the case.

From where did you obtain the product key to use this time? Where did
you get the product? I've had license keys pulled to Microsoft products
because the seller got caught pirating their stuff. Looked good to me,
activated when I got it, wouldn't activated a little over a year later,
found out MS pulled the keys (blacklisted them) because the seller was
slicing up a volume license (those stay within the same organization).
Got burned by a seller. Had to go buy again.

Tried phone activation, but they got the same result. Tried to get
them to transfer me to somebody who could answer the obvious question,
but they would not.


Who is they? When activation (not registration) failed, did you get
prompted with a phone number to call Microsoft support to generate a new
key?

I have used the activation key at least 3 times in the past:
- Initial build of this box.
- A re-build where everything was the same
- The latest re-build where the mobo was slightly
different (something to do with buss voltage control)
but registration was seemingly successful.


Registration is unimportant. How long since you did the rebuild (the
2nd bullet item above)?

Sounds like Windows 7 is going to bite the big one today or tomorrow
(based on MS warning dialogs).

Of course I have backup images, but I'm thinking they are not going to
help unless I can drive a stake through the heart of whatever process
keeps phoning home and getting the "Invalid Installation" notification.

Does this sound familiar to anybody?


Even when the sticker didn't match the product key for the installed
product, I've not had a problem with phone-in product activation after
replacing the motherboard (which not an exact replacement because the
old model was no longer available).
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Old June 21st 17, 10:00 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default Windows 7 Saying "Windows is not genuine" ?

Per Paul:
slmgr /dlv # display activation/license status


Per http://tinyurl.com/y8cqffh2 it sounds to me like they're saying
"You're screwed".... -)
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Old June 21st 17, 10:04 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Per Paul:
MGADiag # https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=52012


I guess it's time for social.microsoft.com:

Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
-----------------------------------------
Windows Validation Data--

Validation Code: 50
Cached Online Validation Code: N/A, hr = 0xc004f012
Windows Product Key: *****-*****-CM74G-RPHKF-PW487
Windows Product Key Hash: 71BRYMECVaSXedfumfu8zryHJVY=
Windows Product ID: 00371-177-0000061-85861
Windows Product ID Type: 5
Windows License Type: Retail
Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048
ID: {91DCC91C-DC83-4D5B-AF7B-799A71788F89}(1)
Is Admin: Yes
TestCab: 0x0
LegitcheckControl ActiveX: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Product Name: Windows 7 Professional
Architectu 0x00000009
Build lab: 7601.win7sp1_ldr.170427-1518
TTS Error:
Validation Diagnostic:
Resolution Status: N/A

Vista WgaER Data--
ThreatID(s): N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

Windows XP Notifications Data--
Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
File Exists: No
Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

OGA Notifications Data--
Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
OGAExec.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
OGAAddin.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

OGA Data--
Office Status: 100 Genuine
Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003 - 100 Genuine
Microsoft Office Visio Professional 2003 - 100 Genuine
OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Office Diagnostics:
025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3_E2AD56EA-765-d003_E2AD56EA-766-0_E2AD56EA-134-80004005_E2AD56EA-765-b01a_E2AD56EA-766-0_E2AD56EA-148-80004005_16E0B333-89-80004005_B4D0AA8B-1029-80004005

Browser Data--
Proxy settings: N/A
User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Win32)
Default Browser: C:\Program Files
(x86)\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe
Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
Active scripting: Allowed
Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed

File Scan Data--

Other data--
Office Details:
GenuineResultsMachineDataUGUID{91DCC91C-DC83-4D5B-AF7B-799A71788F89}/UGUIDVersion1.9.0027.0/VersionOS6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048/OSArchitecturex64/ArchitecturePKey*****-*****-*****-*****-PW487/PKeyPID00371-177-0000061-85861/PIDPIDType5/PIDTypeSIDS-1-5-21-605741848-770943912-1611133582/SIDSYSTEMManufacturerGigabyte
Technology Co.,
Ltd./ManufacturerModelZ87X-UD3H/Model/SYSTEMBIOSManufacturerAmerican
Megatrends Inc./ManufacturerVersionF9/VersionSMBIOSVersion
major="2"
minor="7"/Date20140318000000.000000+000/Date/BIOSHWIDE7793B07018400F4/HWIDUserLCID0409/UserLCIDSystemLCID0409/SystemLCIDTimeZoneEastern
Standard
Time(GMT-05:00)/TimeZoneiJoin0/iJoinSBIDstat3/statmsppid/msppidname/namemodel/model/SBIDOEM/GANotification//MachineDataSoftwareOfficeResult100/ResultProductsProduct
GUID="{90110409-6000-11D3-8CFE-0150048383C9}"LegitResult100/LegitResultNameMicrosoft
Office Professional Edition
2003/NameVer11/VerVal38F30A2981C2A0/ValHashi+LkNU7QpnBh8QYYpbv8XbyOovo=/HashPid73931-336-0976364-57782/PidPidType8/PidType/ProductProduct
GUID="{90510409-6000-11D3-8CFE-0150048383C9}"LegitResult100/LegitResultNameMicrosoft
Office Visio Professional
2003/NameVer11/VerVal6FB62747B2AA0/ValHashboOABprivm2Pir0t29YMGByHn48=/HashPid72085-336-5353694-55100/PidPidType8/PidType/Product/ProductsApplicationsApp
Id="15" Version="11" Result="100"/App Id="16" Version="11"
Result="100"/App Id="18" Version="11" Result="100"/App Id="19"
Version="11" Result="100"/App Id="1A" Version="11" Result="100"/App
Id="1B" Version="11" Result="100"/App Id="44" Version="11"
Result="100"/App Id="51" Version="11"
Result="100"//Applications/Office/Software/GenuineResults

Spsys.log Content: 0x80070002

Licensing Data--
Software licensing service version: 6.1.7601.17514

Name: Windows(R) 7, Professional edition
Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, RETAIL channel
Activation ID: e838d943-63ed-4a0b-9fb1-47152908acc9
Application ID: 55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f
Extended PID: 00371-00170-177-000006-00-1033-7601.0000-1412017
Installation ID: 02045367047009712101090657781154437272085454828588 9593
Processor Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88338
Machine Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88339
Use License URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88341
Product Key Certificate URL:
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88340
Partial Product Key: PW487
License Status: Notification
Notification Reason: 0xC004F009 (grace time expired).
Remaining Windows rearm count: 3
Trusted time: 6/21/2017 17:02:02

Windows Activation Technologies--
HrOffline: 0x00000000
HrOnline: N/A
HealthStatus: 0x0000000000000000
Event Time Stamp: N/A
ActiveX: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
Admin Service: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
HealthStatus Bitmask Output:


HWID Data--
HWID Hash Current:
NgAAAAEAAQABAAMAAQADAAAAAgABAAEAHKJ0CCBG6PZ0HcTetn zIce4WXvB6OUdV3ktgcsj2

OEM Activation 1.0 Data--
N/A

OEM Activation 2.0 Data--
BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes, but no SLIC table
Windows marker version: N/A
OEMID and OEMTableID Consistent: N/A
BIOS Information:
ACPI Table Name OEMID Value OEMTableID Value
APIC ALASKA A M I
FACP ALASKA A M I
HPET ALASKA A M I
MCFG
FPDT ALASKA A M I
SSDT PmRef Cpu0Ist
SSDT PmRef Cpu0Ist
SSDT PmRef Cpu0Ist
SSDT PmRef Cpu0Ist
DMAR INTEL HSW
MATS ALASKA A M I


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Old June 21st 17, 10:28 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Per VanguardLH:
The product key on the sticker might not match the product key of the
installed license. That happens because a manufacturer will use the
same image to build many boxes but runs through sheets of pre-printed
stickers to put onto the case.

From where did you obtain the product key to use this time? Where did
you get the product?


Purchased it at least five years ago and have no idea about the vendor
or the exact date.

I have since started noting dates in my build log and now I can see I
should probably note the exact source.

Until you cited the blacklisting thing I would have thought that the two
successful installs/validations meant that the key is valid.

All this through the number that popped up when I entered
"slui.exe 4" on the command line.

Heavy Indian or Pakistani accent.... was just reading screens with no
underlying knowledge... declined to forward me to anybody who knew more.

Given your experience with the not-quite mobo, I would have to lean
towards the "Blacklisted" explanation.

Looks like I'm going to be coughing up about ninety bucks for the OEM on
Amazon.
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Old June 21st 17, 10:36 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default Windows 7 Saying "Windows is not genuine" ?

(PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Paul:
MGADiag # https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=52012


I guess it's time for social.microsoft.com:

Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
-----------------------------------------
Windows Validation Data--
License Status: Notification
Notification Reason: 0xC004F009 (grace time expired).
Remaining Windows rearm count: 3
Trusted time: 6/21/2017 17:02:02


Backup of C: and System Reserved in hand ?

*******

Re-arm command (administrator command prompt)

slmgr.vbs -rearm # Vista or later, do this on day 29...

On WinXP, you run this in a Command Prompt as administrator,
to reset the grace clock. Do this on the 29th day. You will likely
get a total of 90 days total grace or so. I've never tested one
of these all the way, to see just how far it will go. There
are advocates for abusing Enterprise versions using tricks like
this.

rundll32.exe syssetup,SetupOobeBnk

*******

I don't know what you can do, if you hit day 31 and it expires.
I don't think the re-arm will fix that. But, you can try.

*******

For any tool which dumps keys, always be careful with what you
post in a public forum. for example, copy/paste of Belarc, or
of this MGAdiag thing. While most of the time, the output is
"safe enough", it's your responsibility to make sure it
stays that way. I don't know if the handling of non-OS license
keys in MGAdiag, is clean enough or not. It's OK to show a
partial key, like five characters, but I don't really know
what a diagnostic expert does with that, unless they have
a way of pumping one of the other numbers in somewhere, and
correlating those five characters (somehow).

Most of the time, the MGA people are grumpy. And they receive
their fair share of scumbags (pirates or whatever). I can buy
cases where a trusting individual got a pirate copy from their
mom and pop computer store. But many times, the MGA threads
seem to show individuals with first-hand knowledge of their
piracy, come looking for help. Maybe they think an analyst
can wave a magic wand and give a one-time activation code,
but that's not what that forum is for.

*******

Summary - you didn't activate, it expired, best guess.

If I was stuck in this hole, I had my backup in hand, I'd open
an Administrator Command Prompt and get to work.

https://www.howtogeek.com/245445/how...ndows-license/

slmgr.vbs /ipk #####-#####-#####-#####-##### --- new key command

slmgr.vbs /ato --- activate!!!

slmgr.vbs /dlv --- (verify)

Paul
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Old June 21st 17, 10:57 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default Windows 7 Saying "Windows is not genuine" ?

On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 12:44:21 -0400, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Mobo bit the big one.

Replaced it with one almost, but not exactly the same.

Rebuilt the system.

Went through the registration process successfully (I think...) and was
mildly surprised there was no issue with the mobo.

But now, some weeks later, Windows 7 is telling me the installation is
not genuine.


Known problem with Windows. I wish I had a solution to offer, but I
don't. I remember when Windows Genuine Advantage was first
introduced, it nailed a bunch of totally legitimate installs. We
still have that problem with virtual machines at work, despite having
an unlimited enterprise license.

You have my sympathy, but I don't know how to help.

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Old June 22nd 17, 01:36 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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PeteCresswell wrote:

Looks like I'm going to be coughing up about ninety bucks for the OEM on
Amazon.


I thought you said you had image backups of the OS partition. Restore
from those. Even if the mobo is different, that image should be usable
to boot Windows and then you install the chipset drivers for the mobo.
See if your backup image will still validate (or even thinks it needs to
validate).
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Old June 22nd 17, 01:41 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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PeteCresswell wrote:

Windows Product Key: *****-*****-CM74G-RPHKF-PW487


Is there an "OEM" somewhere in the license? If so, Microsoft doesn't
have to help. It's an OEM license so you have to contact the OEMer. If
a legit OEM disc, the OEMer should be printed on the disc's label.

If the OEMer doesn't match the brand for the new mobo, it may not work.
Some OEM discs are BIOS-locked: they check a firmware string from the
BIOS to determine on what brand of mobo the software is being installed.
When BIOS-locked, a mismatch on firmware string means no install.

If it is one of those "Dell restore" CDs sold on eBay, those are legit
only when restoring a Dell computer, not other brands. There's a lot of
pirating on eBay.
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Old June 22nd 17, 05:30 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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En el artículo ,
(PeteCresswell) escribió:

Looks like I'm going to be coughing up about ninety bucks for the OEM on
Amazon.


10 quid for genuine Win7 licence stickers with keys on ebay.

You've already paid M$ once, don't do it again. It isn't your fault
their licensing has ****ed up. They're just trying to push you to
Win10.

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Old June 22nd 17, 02:25 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default Windows 7 Saying "Windows is not genuine" ?

Per VanguardLH:
I've had license keys pulled to Microsoft products
because the seller got caught pirating their stuff. Looked good to me,


I have been scoping out deals on Amazon for 7, 8, and 10.

It's not enough to just look at the average ratings because I keep
coming across four-star average ratings where it's 50-50: five stars and
one star. The single-stars from buyers reporting that the product key
is invalid.

Seems like a problem to me - especially in light of keys being "Valid"
when one purchases, but then declared "Invalid" by MS at some later
date.

Do you recall where you bought your "Good" copy?
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Old June 22nd 17, 04:45 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default Windows 7 Saying "Windows is not genuine" ?

On 21/06/2017 22:00, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Paul:
slmgr /dlv # display activation/license status


Per http://tinyurl.com/y8cqffh2 it sounds to me like they're saying
"You're screwed".... -)


https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/e2c50b0c-7f73-4f69-83a5-7dd0c14f7b47/grace-time-expired-do-i-need-to-reactivate?forum=winservercore

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Old June 22nd 17, 06:27 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Per Paul:
Summary - you didn't activate, it expired, best guess.


That seems tb the case, but begs the question of how I got through the
last five years or so....

I am guessing that, before the rebuild, MS had not yet deactivated my
key so activation was successful back then.... but by the time I rebuilt
a month ago, MS had deactivated the key.
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