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Old March 13th 17, 02:08 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Jonas Schneider
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Default Want to do taxes, computer won't boot, is there a Windows 10 temporary OS?

Is there a legit way to get Windows 10 temporarily for a few days?

I have an XP laptop that isn't worth fixing, that won't boot.
It has two hard disk drives though (big Dell XPS gaming thing).
It has my taxes on it from last year that I need to suck into Turbotax.

All I want to do is pop in a spare hard drive and boot off that spare hard
drive and then grab the tax records and put them onto USB flash stick.

But I don't have any Windows boot media.

My plan is this:
1. Remove the old XP boot hard drive (which is where the taxes are).
2. Put in a formatted hard drive (temporarily yanked off another laptop).
3. Install Windows 10 temporary (if that exists) on the new hard drive.
4. Boot off of Windows 10 (to test that the computer problem is solved.

Then, I pull out the second hard drive and put the original (bad xp) boot
drive in its place, because the tax records are on that (old boot xp)
drive.

Windows 10 should access that old boot xp drive for long enough for me to
get the taxes off it.

The plan seems sound (to me) but my question is whether or not I can get a
temporary copy of Windows that is legitimate.

Is there a legitimate temporary Windows 10 method that will work for me?
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Old March 13th 17, 02:16 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul in Houston TX[_2_]
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Default Want to do taxes, computer won't boot, is there a Windows 10temporary OS?

Jonas Schneider wrote:
Is there a legit way to get Windows 10 temporarily for a few days?

I have an XP laptop that isn't worth fixing, that won't boot.
It has two hard disk drives though (big Dell XPS gaming thing).
It has my taxes on it from last year that I need to suck into Turbotax.

All I want to do is pop in a spare hard drive and boot off that spare hard
drive and then grab the tax records and put them onto USB flash stick.

But I don't have any Windows boot media.

My plan is this:
1. Remove the old XP boot hard drive (which is where the taxes are).
2. Put in a formatted hard drive (temporarily yanked off another laptop).
3. Install Windows 10 temporary (if that exists) on the new hard drive.
4. Boot off of Windows 10 (to test that the computer problem is solved.

Then, I pull out the second hard drive and put the original (bad xp) boot
drive in its place, because the tax records are on that (old boot xp)
drive.

Windows 10 should access that old boot xp drive for long enough for me to
get the taxes off it.

The plan seems sound (to me) but my question is whether or not I can get a
temporary copy of Windows that is legitimate.

Is there a legitimate temporary Windows 10 method that will work for me?


How about booting from a Linux live CD or a rescue CD and copy the files to usb?

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Old March 13th 17, 02:55 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Want to do taxes, computer won't boot, is there a Windows 10temporary OS?

Jonas Schneider wrote:
Is there a legit way to get Windows 10 temporarily for a few days?

I have an XP laptop that isn't worth fixing, that won't boot.
It has two hard disk drives though (big Dell XPS gaming thing).
It has my taxes on it from last year that I need to suck into Turbotax.

All I want to do is pop in a spare hard drive and boot off that spare hard
drive and then grab the tax records and put them onto USB flash stick.

But I don't have any Windows boot media.

My plan is this:
1. Remove the old XP boot hard drive (which is where the taxes are).
2. Put in a formatted hard drive (temporarily yanked off another laptop).
3. Install Windows 10 temporary (if that exists) on the new hard drive.
4. Boot off of Windows 10 (to test that the computer problem is solved.

Then, I pull out the second hard drive and put the original (bad xp) boot
drive in its place, because the tax records are on that (old boot xp)
drive.

Windows 10 should access that old boot xp drive for long enough for me to
get the taxes off it.

The plan seems sound (to me) but my question is whether or not I can get a
temporary copy of Windows that is legitimate.

Is there a legitimate temporary Windows 10 method that will work for me?


If you install a Windows OS, normally it will run for
30 days without activation. The license key box has a "Skip"
option on some OSes.

The OSes can be "picky" about hardware instruction set. This
means your WinXP era laptop is useless with respect to installing
Win10. The Win10 initial install step will do a CPU instruction
set check, and *reject* the computer. For example, only the
very last version of P4 made (2MB cache), that is the oldest CPU
supported by Win10. Since those are obscure, you could pretend
for the sake of argument, that P4 era computers are useless for
the task. A Core or Core2 CPU might be a comfortable minimum for Win10.

So let's make a table:

Media? Skip Special Comment
License? CPU?

WinXP No Yes NA
Vista No Yes NA (32 or 64)
Win7 (Heidoc) Yes NA (32 or 64)
Win8 No?? Install-Only key ?? (32 or 64) [You would install 8.1 anyway]
Win8.1 (Heidoc) Install-Only key NX,PAE,SSE2,CX16,LAHF,PrefetchW
Win10 Available No (you have no NX,PAE,SSE2,CX16,LAHF,PrefetchW
qualifying OS)

Win8/8.1 Install-only keys (good for 30 days only...). This helps
Windows 8 become a "Skip" license style OS, like it was
as convenient as installing Win7.

Windows 8.0 Pro: XKY4K-2NRWR-8F6P2-448RF-CRYQH
Windows 8.0 Co FB4WR-32NVD-4RW79-XQFWH-CYQG3

Windows 8.1 Pro: XHQ8N-C3MCJ-RQXB6-WCHYG-C9WKB
Windows 8.1 Co 334NH-RXG76-64THK-C7CKG-D3VPT

*******

From practical considerations, you would install Windows 7, then
use the "Skip" or "Next" button at license key entry time.

You will need drivers for Windows 7. If the motherboard
BIOS is in Compatible IDE or AHCI mode, you can probably
get an image on the screen. A Win7 video driver would help.
Many of the other drivers you could ignore for the purpose
of this (limited) situation.

Where will the output go ? Printer ? Printer driver ?
Stored on USB stick ? (In-box driver)
Internet ? (Need network driver for Win7)

The Heidoc tool generates a URL for downloading the OS.
The download link is valid for 24 hours only. Every time
you do this, a folder is created on a Microsoft server,
with the ISO in it. The Heidoc tool has a "Copy to clipboard"
button. You can move the URL to Notepad and save it there,
then drive somewhere and do the download. Or, you could
run the Heidoc web page from the library computer, and
paste the URL into the browser and download. The download
comes from Microsoft, not from Heidoc. All that the Heidoc
tool does, is forge a request to Techbench, to have an
ISO image staged for your convenience. It is in every
way, a valid ISO image, and comes from Microsoft.

Here are your play tools. Get a copy of Win7 x32. Home Premium
should be good enough:

https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/techno...-download-tool

Heidoc -- "Copy to Clipboard"
Browser (Paste into URL bar)
Download and save the ISO9660 file.
Burn to DVD.

Take both Heidoc EXE files to the library with you. In case the
library computer doesn't have the very latest .NET, you
can use the "legacy" compiled version instead, which
will run on more computers (WinXP+).

*******

Other options include these. Vista SP2 is usable for 30 days,
but "not a keeper". While I have these links in my notes
file, they're probably erased by now, by the "DMCA police".
I cannot guarantee these links are still good. Only the
first one is of use to you, as it is the 32-bit version,
and most likely to work on your crusty CPU.

https://ia801708.us.archive.org/26/i...dvd_342266.iso
Windows Vista with SP2 32-bit
SHA1: 25AD9A776503E6A583BEC07879DBCC5DFD20CD6E
Size: 3093 MB (3.02 GB)

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9WC...rive_web&pli=1
en_windows_vista_sp2_x64_dvd_342267.iso
Windows Vista with SP2 64-bit
SHA1: AAEE3C04533899F9F8C4AE0C4250EF5FAFBE29A3
Size: 3683 MB (3.59 GB)

HTH,
Paul
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Old March 13th 17, 03:29 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Good Guy[_2_]
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Default Want to do taxes, computer won't boot, is there a Windows 10temporary OS?

On 13/03/2017 02:08, Jonas Schneider wrote:

Is there a legitimate temporary Windows 10 method that will work for me?



90 days free evaluation from this link:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-10-enterprise

You have plenty of time to do your taxes assuming you are well organised
like me with all your documents very handy to find.




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Old March 13th 17, 04:41 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Want to do taxes, computer won't boot, is there a Windows 10 temporary OS?

In article ,
says...

Is there a legit way to get Windows 10 temporarily for a few days?

I have an XP laptop that isn't worth fixing, that won't boot.
It has two hard disk drives though (big Dell XPS gaming thing).
It has my taxes on it from last year that I need to suck into Turbotax.

All I want to do is pop in a spare hard drive and boot off that spare hard
drive and then grab the tax records and put them onto USB flash stick.

But I don't have any Windows boot media.

My plan is this:
1. Remove the old XP boot hard drive (which is where the taxes are).
2. Put in a formatted hard drive (temporarily yanked off another laptop).
3. Install Windows 10 temporary (if that exists) on the new hard drive.
4. Boot off of Windows 10 (to test that the computer problem is solved.

Then, I pull out the second hard drive and put the original (bad xp) boot
drive in its place, because the tax records are on that (old boot xp)
drive.

Windows 10 should access that old boot xp drive for long enough for me to
get the taxes off it.

The plan seems sound (to me) but my question is whether or not I can get a
temporary copy of Windows that is legitimate.

Is there a legitimate temporary Windows 10 method that will work for me?


Why not just pop the drive into a cheap usb enclosure and connect it to
the pc you wish to copy the files to? Cheap, easy and you're left with
an external hard disk to use as you wish P.S. Insure it's correct
type for existing hard disk e.g. IDE or SATA and note that you can still
buy enclosures do either rather than just the one type.
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Old March 13th 17, 08:27 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default Want to do taxes, computer won't boot, is there a Windows 10 temporary OS?

In message , pjp
writes:
In article ,
says...

Is there a legit way to get Windows 10 temporarily for a few days?

I have an XP laptop that isn't worth fixing, that won't boot.
It has two hard disk drives though (big Dell XPS gaming thing).
It has my taxes on it from last year that I need to suck into Turbotax.

All I want to do is pop in a spare hard drive and boot off that spare hard
drive and then grab the tax records and put them onto USB flash stick.

But I don't have any Windows boot media.

My plan is this:
1. Remove the old XP boot hard drive (which is where the taxes are).
2. Put in a formatted hard drive (temporarily yanked off another laptop).


You will ruin the other laptop if you do this. (Well, corrupt the HD
anyway.)

3. Install Windows 10 temporary (if that exists) on the new hard drive.
4. Boot off of Windows 10 (to test that the computer problem is solved.

Then, I pull out the second hard drive and put the original (bad xp) boot
drive in its place, because the tax records are on that (old boot xp)
drive.

Windows 10 should access that old boot xp drive for long enough for me to
get the taxes off it.

The plan seems sound (to me) but my question is whether or not I can get a
temporary copy of Windows that is legitimate.

Is there a legitimate temporary Windows 10 method that will work for me?


Why not just pop the drive into a cheap usb enclosure and connect it to
the pc you wish to copy the files to? Cheap, easy and you're left with
an external hard disk to use as you wish P.S. Insure it's correct
type for existing hard disk e.g. IDE or SATA and note that you can still
buy enclosures do either rather than just the one type.


My thoughts exactly: if you're willing to move drives around, and all
you want is to access _files_ on the old disc, then by far the simplest
way to do so is to access it - the disc - from another computer. There
are about three ways to do that: either using an external housing (which
will contain some electronics), using a "USB to EIDE (or SATA) cable"
(which, though it appears to be just a cable, will also contain some
electronics), or using an external "dock" - these are bases into which
you can plug a drive (the one I have has slots for (E)IDE and SATA, also
lots of memory card types). All of these connect by USB (possibly other
ways too, but USB is the commonest), and are available for peanuts, at
least the external housing and "cable" are. A fourth way would be to
connect the drive directly to another computer that has a spare
EIDE/SATA (as appropriate) connector, but I'd be wary of doing so with a
disc that has an OS on it (assuming it _is_ the one that does), as
there's a small chance it would confuse the booting of that computer.
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Old March 13th 17, 08:50 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Want to do taxes, computer won't boot, is there a Windows 10 temporary OS?

On Sun, 12 Mar 2017 21:16:20 -0500, Paul in Houston TX
wrote in

Is there a legitimate temporary Windows 10 method that will work for me?


How about booting from a Linux live CD or a rescue CD and copy the files to usb?


+1
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Old March 13th 17, 01:53 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Want to do taxes, computer won't boot, is there a Windows 10 temporary OS?

In message , Jonas Schneider
writes
Is there a legit way to get Windows 10 temporarily for a few days?



As others have suggested:
https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=usb+ide+sata+adapter&*
(or similar wherever you are).

A 2.5" drive normally runs off the USB power, and doesn't need a
separate power supply.

A 3.5" drive needs an adapter with a separate 5V / 12V supply.


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Old March 13th 17, 05:07 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Want to do taxes, computer won't boot, is there a Windows 10temporary OS?

On 03/12/2017 11:41 PM, pjp wrote:

[snip]

Why not just pop the drive into a cheap usb enclosure and connect it to
the pc you wish to copy the files to? Cheap, easy and you're left with
an external hard disk to use as you wish P.S. Insure it's correct
type for existing hard disk e.g. IDE or SATA and note that you can still
buy enclosures do either rather than just the one type.


You don't need an enclosure for the 5 minutes or so it takes to copy a
file. You could use one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/Drive-Cable-A...OV/ref=sr_1_12

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Old March 13th 17, 05:23 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Shadow
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Default Want to do taxes, computer won't boot, is there a Windows 10 temporary OS?

On Sun, 12 Mar 2017 21:16:20 -0500, Paul in Houston TX
wrote:

Jonas Schneider wrote:
Is there a legit way to get Windows 10 temporarily for a few days?

I have an XP laptop that isn't worth fixing, that won't boot.
It has two hard disk drives though (big Dell XPS gaming thing).
It has my taxes on it from last year that I need to suck into Turbotax.

All I want to do is pop in a spare hard drive and boot off that spare hard
drive and then grab the tax records and put them onto USB flash stick.

But I don't have any Windows boot media.

My plan is this:
1. Remove the old XP boot hard drive (which is where the taxes are).
2. Put in a formatted hard drive (temporarily yanked off another laptop).
3. Install Windows 10 temporary (if that exists) on the new hard drive.
4. Boot off of Windows 10 (to test that the computer problem is solved.

Then, I pull out the second hard drive and put the original (bad xp) boot
drive in its place, because the tax records are on that (old boot xp)
drive.

Windows 10 should access that old boot xp drive for long enough for me to
get the taxes off it.

The plan seems sound (to me) but my question is whether or not I can get a
temporary copy of Windows that is legitimate.

Is there a legitimate temporary Windows 10 method that will work for me?


How about booting from a Linux live CD or a rescue CD and copy the files to usb?


+1 there. I would have done that without thinking twice.
Use an "easy" distro, if it's not online, even an old Ubuntu
10.4 would suffice (and fit nicely on a CD), and it looks and behaves
sufficiently like XP for the OP to master it in a few minutes.
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Old March 13th 17, 05:36 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Shadow
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Default Want to do taxes, computer won't boot, is there a Windows 10 temporary OS?

On Mon, 13 Mar 2017 12:07:11 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 03/12/2017 11:41 PM, pjp wrote:

[snip]

Why not just pop the drive into a cheap usb enclosure and connect it to
the pc you wish to copy the files to? Cheap, easy and you're left with
an external hard disk to use as you wish P.S. Insure it's correct
type for existing hard disk e.g. IDE or SATA and note that you can still
buy enclosures do either rather than just the one type.


You don't need an enclosure for the 5 minutes or so it takes to copy a
file. You could use one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/Drive-Cable-A...OV/ref=sr_1_12


Why buy something when all he needs is a Linux live system,
like ubuntu 10 ?

There you go:

http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/relea...sktop-i386.iso

694MB. Burn it to a CD, boot the old computer with it. Choose
"test, or "live", whatever, NOT "install". Unless the MB is fried,
you will be able to copy the contents of the HD to a USB.
Should take you 20 minutes or so.
But WhyTF don't you keep a backup to a DVD (NEVER use "the
cloud" ? Not only of the tax data, but EVERYTHING important ? HDs
always die, eventually. The DVD will too, eventually. But look at the
bright side, you will be long gone by then ...
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Old March 13th 17, 06:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Keith Nuttle
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Default Want to do taxes, computer won't boot, is there a Windows 10temporary OS?

On 3/13/2017 10:10 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Mon, 13 Mar 2017 08:38:26 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

On 3/13/2017 12:41 AM, pjp wrote:


I think you mean April 18th. We get a few extra days this year.

They are now with the CPA so it is up to her. ;-)
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Old March 13th 17, 07:53 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ian Jackson[_3_]
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Default Want to do taxes, computer won't boot, is there a Windows 10 temporary OS?

In message , Shadow
writes
On Mon, 13 Mar 2017 12:07:11 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:



You don't need an enclosure for the 5 minutes or so it takes to copy a
file. You could use one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/Drive-Cable-A...p/B01N4VUIOV/r
ef=sr_1_12


Why buy something when all he needs is a Linux live system,
like ubuntu 10 ?


Well, those adapters come in extremely handy, and it's rather convenient
to have one 'about your person' for future use. I now have several.

That one on Amazon does look rather expensive - but you do get a
complete set of adapter leads. Be aware that the power supply - needed
for 3.5" drives - can run pretty hot (well, mine do), and it's best to
ensure that there is plenty of airflow around them.






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