Download Win 10 from microsoft

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10

I am going to create 4 bootable USB flash drives.

1) 32 bit - core
2) 64 bit - core
2) 32 bit - prof
4) 54 bit - prof

This will be sufficient to upgrade my computers and
offer a free service to family and friends.


HS

HS wrote on 07/29/2015 3:58 AM:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10

I am going to create 4 bootable USB flash drives.

1) 32 bit - core
2) 64 bit - core
2) 32 bit - prof
4) 54 bit - prof

This will be sufficient to upgrade my computers and
offer a free service to family and friends.


HS

#4 probably won't be of much use.


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msft mvp windows experience

.. . .winston schreef op 29/07/2015 om 10:04:

4) 54 bit - prof

#4 probably won't be of much use.


LOL

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Carpe Diem
"Make things as simple as possible,
but not simpler" (Albert Einstein).

HS wrote on 7/29/2015 3:58 AM:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10

I am going to create 4 bootable USB flash drives.

1) 32 bit - core
2) 64 bit - core
2) 32 bit - prof
4) 54 bit - prof

This will be sufficient to upgrade my computers and
offer a free service to family and friends.


HS
From reading this, it sounds like the only way the auto activate works is you have to have upgraded the PC once and let
it get recorded with MS. We've talked about how MS would probably store who's key goes with who's PC. And this
sounds like this is what is happening. Once you've upgraded and been recorded, a clean install is possible because MS
knows now who you are. Am I on the right track?

This also sounds like the ISO is useless for a clean install without a previous upgrade (unless you buy a key).

On 07/29/2015 03:04 AM, . . .winston wrote:
HS wrote on 07/29/2015 3:58 AM:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10

I am going to create 4 bootable USB flash drives.

1) 32 bit - core
2) 64 bit - core
2) 32 bit - prof
4) 54 bit - prof

This will be sufficient to upgrade my computers and
offer a free service to family and friends.


HS

#4 probably won't be of much use.



You will find the 72-bit version to be much more useful :-)

BTW, That's 64 + 8, since Windows 8 was no good so you need to supply an
alternative.

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"Let Bhagwans be Bhagwans." [Washington Post]

Big Al wrote on 07/29/2015 10:17 AM:
HS wrote on 7/29/2015 3:58 AM:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10

I am going to create 4 bootable USB flash drives.

1) 32 bit - core
2) 64 bit - core
2) 32 bit - prof
4) 54 bit - prof

This will be sufficient to upgrade my computers and
offer a free service to family and friends.


HS
From reading this, it sounds like the only way the auto activate works
is you have to have upgraded the PC once and let it get recorded with
MS. We've talked about how MS would probably store who's key goes with
who's PC. And this sounds like this is what is happening. Once you've
upgraded and been recorded, a clean install is possible because MS knows
now who you are. Am I on the right track?

This also sounds like the ISO is useless for a clean install without a
previous upgrade (unless you buy a key).

Al,
Yes your are on the right track.
- The MSFT Store retains the Win10 license, license type (Retail/OEM),
and device info. The license type comes into play regarding
transferability - Retail permits, OEM (all versions) does not.

OEM System Builder has the same transfer rights as OEM pre-installed.
OEM System Builder for *personal use* does not exist.


--
...winston
msft mvp windows experience

.. . .winston wrote on 7/29/2015 1:10 PM:
Big Al wrote on 07/29/2015 10:17 AM:
HS wrote on 7/29/2015 3:58 AM:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10

I am going to create 4 bootable USB flash drives.

1) 32 bit - core
2) 64 bit - core
2) 32 bit - prof
4) 54 bit - prof

This will be sufficient to upgrade my computers and
offer a free service to family and friends.


HS
From reading this, it sounds like the only way the auto activate works
is you have to have upgraded the PC once and let it get recorded with
MS. We've talked about how MS would probably store who's key goes with
who's PC. And this sounds like this is what is happening. Once you've
upgraded and been recorded, a clean install is possible because MS knows
now who you are. Am I on the right track?

This also sounds like the ISO is useless for a clean install without a
previous upgrade (unless you buy a key).

Al,
Yes your are on the right track.
- The MSFT Store retains the Win10 license, license type (Retail/OEM), and device info. The license type comes into
play regarding transferability - Retail permits, OEM (all versions) does not.

OEM System Builder has the same transfer rights as OEM pre-installed. OEM System Builder for *personal use* does not exist.


By transferability, you think that if my retail win7 home upgrades to 10 home and then years later dies and I have to
buy a new PC I could reinstall and get it to license?

On 7/29/2015 1:56 PM, Big Al wrote:
By transferability, you think that if my retail win7 home upgrades to 10
home and then years later dies and I have to buy a new PC I could
reinstall and get it to license?
Why would you want, to when "years later" Windows 10 as being released
will have gone the way of DOS, 98, XP, and 7.

Buying the new machine will be designed for the current OS, and come
with the current OS reinstalled.

Keith Nuttle wrote on 7/29/2015 2:03 PM:
On 7/29/2015 1:56 PM, Big Al wrote:
By transferability, you think that if my retail win7 home upgrades to 10
home and then years later dies and I have to buy a new PC I could
reinstall and get it to license?
Why would you want, to when "years later" Windows 10 as being released will have gone the way of DOS, 98, XP, and 7.

Buying the new machine will be designed for the current OS, and come with the current OS reinstalled.
Never thought about the OS coming with the PC. Seriously! I have built so many myself since DOS years, I've always
thought of the OS as a thing to have and reload. Point well taken, thanks for the reminder.

On 2015-07-29 10:17 AM, Big Al wrote:
HS wrote on 7/29/2015 3:58 AM:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10

I am going to create 4 bootable USB flash drives.

1) 32 bit - core
2) 64 bit - core
2) 32 bit - prof
4) 64 bit - prof

This will be sufficient to upgrade my computers and
offer a free service to family and friends.


HS
From reading this, it sounds like the only way the auto activate works
is you have to have upgraded the PC once and let it get recorded with
MS. We've talked about how MS would probably store who's key goes with
who's PC. And this sounds like this is what is happening. Once you've
upgraded and been recorded, a clean install is possible because MS knows
now who you are. Am I on the right track?

Yes

I have now done this on about 6 computers.

You MUST upgrade first. After that you can do clean install. You are
asked for the keys which you can skip. Once the installation is complete
and the windows acessess microsoft server you are activated automatically.



This also sounds like the ISO is useless for a clean install without a
previous upgrade (unless you buy a key).


Yes

HS (Homo Sapien)

On 2015-07-29, hah wrote:
You will find the 72-bit version to be much more useful :-)

As we used to say, if you don't have 36 bits you're not playing
with a full DEC. ;-)

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In article ,
Roger Blake wrote:
On 2015-07-29, hah wrote:
You will find the 72-bit version to be much more useful :-)

As we used to say, if you don't have 36 bits you're not playing
with a full DEC. ;-)

Many years ago, I worked with a system which used 72-bit words logically
divided into 12 6-bit characters. The first four characters were the
opcode, the second was the source address, and the the third was the
destination. Due to the limited memory available (19,200 characters), it
was a common practice to use gaps in commands (say, something that
didn't use the destination field) as program storage.

A Burroughs B-500, it was about 66" tall, 30" wide, and 72" deep (168cm
x 76cm x 183).

Time have changed. (And yes, it used punched cards.)

Big Al wrote on 07/29/2015 1:56 PM:
. . .winston wrote on 7/29/2015 1:10 PM:
Big Al wrote on 07/29/2015 10:17 AM:
HS wrote on 7/29/2015 3:58 AM:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10

I am going to create 4 bootable USB flash drives.

1) 32 bit - core
2) 64 bit - core
2) 32 bit - prof
4) 54 bit - prof

This will be sufficient to upgrade my computers and
offer a free service to family and friends.


HS
From reading this, it sounds like the only way the auto activate works
is you have to have upgraded the PC once and let it get recorded with
MS. We've talked about how MS would probably store who's key goes with
who's PC. And this sounds like this is what is happening. Once you've
upgraded and been recorded, a clean install is possible because MS knows
now who you are. Am I on the right track?

This also sounds like the ISO is useless for a clean install without a
previous upgrade (unless you buy a key).

Al,
Yes your are on the right track.
- The MSFT Store retains the Win10 license, license type
(Retail/OEM), and device info. The license type comes into
play regarding transferability - Retail permits, OEM (all versions)
does not.

OEM System Builder has the same transfer rights as OEM pre-installed.
OEM System Builder for *personal use* does not exist.


By transferability, you think that if my retail win7 home upgrades to 10
home and then years later dies and I have to buy a new PC I could
reinstall and get it to license?

Yes...retail licenses are transferable before and after upgrading to
Windows 10.

From the Windows 10 license.rtf file
" b.Stand-alone software. If you acquired the software as stand-alone
software (and also if you upgraded from software you acquired as
stand-alone software), you may transfer the software to another device
that belongs to you. You may also transfer the software to a device
owned by someone else if (i) you are the first licensed user of the
software and (ii) the new user agrees to the terms of this agreement.
You may use the backup copy we allow you to make or the media that the
software came on to transfer the software. Every time you transfer the
software to a new device, you must remove the software from the prior
device. You may not transfer the software to share licenses between
devices."


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...winston
msft mvp windows experience