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  #16  
Old July 9th 19, 05:43 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default Win10 is a random, ever changing, grab bag of features (Was:[inexplicably] Debian 10 "buster" released)

Kenny McCormack wrote:
In article , Paul wrote:
...
I like to think of these as "random feature sets". Imagine
an elevator in your apartment building. One day, it doesn't
go "UP". The next day, it doesn't go "DOWN". Next day, the
door has fallen off the front, but it does go UP and DOWN
ok. These are great ideas, if only you could see an
objective or a plan... Like, why take the door off the
elevator ? Faster egress ? Doubles as a melon slicer ?
You have to make up your own rationale on these things.


Exactly! Glad to hear someone else making this observation.

This is what I have been saying all along - that Win10 is this
ever-changing random grab bag of features. The elevator analogy is apt.

It (W10) is quite suitable for the cell-phone generation. They like things
constantly changing for no good reason.


I just tried to use GPEDIT in a 32 bit copy of Windows 10 1903,
and when I clicked "Apply", the OS freezes for 5-10 second,
then the OS reboots... and the Reliability Monitor has no
entry (for the crash) ! How clever.

I will file a bug report filled with... sweet **** all.

Well, I am using the latest version of VirtualBox, so
it's my own fault ?

It's hard being a tester. So very hard.

Paul
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  #17  
Old July 9th 19, 08:03 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.privacy.anon-server
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Default "Antimalware Service Executable"

On 08 Jul 2019, Jeff-Relf.Me @.@ posted some --
4.00pm.Seattle.2019:

Someone replied ( to me ):
If anyone knows how to kill "Antimalware Service Executable",
Windows 10, v1903, I'm all ears.


Find the exe file and delete it ?


Can't delete it, can't rename it, can't "unlock" it,
not even with a reboot.


What's the name of the running executable?

If you're asking about "Antimalware Service Executable" aka MsMpEng.exe,
stopping it and deleting it ain't an option.

Microsoft has made its Windows Defender feature a permanent fixture of
Windows 10.

There are ways to turn it off using gpedit and the prog itself.

Stop being stupid and install some other antivirus software, it will turn
itself off.

  #18  
Old July 9th 19, 08:03 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy,,alt.privacy.anon-server
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Default "Antimalware Service Executable"

On 08 Jul 2019, "Snowden" posted some
:


Someone replied ( to me ):

If anyone knows how to kill "Antimalware Service Executable",
Windows 10, v1903, I'm all ears.

Find the exe file and delete it ?


Can't delete it, can't rename it, can't "unlock" it,
not even with a reboot.


If you have knowledge of Linux, you could run systemrescue on a USB
with

systemrescuecd-x86-4.6.1.iso

and delete it from the disk with that.


There's that Linux mentality and bad advice again. Just boot up an .ISO
and start deleting **** in Windows that you don't have a clue what it
does. You must be related to that neck-bearded geek Peter.

SMH..
  #19  
Old July 9th 19, 04:55 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default Remove the "Antimalware Service Executable".

Jeff-Relf.Me @.@ wrote:
Paul,

I can't access the "Tamper Prevention" dialogue; see:
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/No.Tamper.Prevention.PNG

It can't possibly be that yours is Home and mine is Pro,
because both are "uncontrollable rubbish".


I think you can do it, and I can't,
because I'm using the Home Edition, v1903.

around when 1903 showed up,
You could use Security Panel to turn off Real Time protection,
and [MsMpEng] would turn itself back on again.

If you try to use the slider again ( off|on ) nothing happens.
So something did change in the last release.


Right, I think they took another **** on us Home Edition users, v1903.


https://www.ghacks.net/2018/12/19/wi...ction-feature/

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Features
TamperProtection DWORD 0 # Disable

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Win dows Defender
DisableAntiSpyware DWORD 1

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Policies\M icrosoft\Windows Defender
DisableAntiSpyware DWORD 1

Picture of regedits so far.

https://i.postimg.cc/6qZsQPhz/regeditary.gif

I don't know if this is enough or not. But you
can test that much and see. There are two keys for
the Windows Defender disable, on a 64-bit OS.

It's possible Regedit will block that setting.
The registry is a file system.
Each entry has permissions.
There are ways around each one.

Note that I suspect the 32-bit OS I was testing in,
the crash was actually related to a "trip wire". Windows
has exploit protection with a name like "fast crash",
where rather than be exploited, the machine just resets.
And it can do that in a few instruction times. It doesn't
**** around. That's one of the defense strategies, if
a trip wire is set off.

I see how the deck is stacked, in your picture, so
I'm not all that confident we can beat this pig.

Paul
  #20  
Old July 9th 19, 05:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.privacy.anon-server
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Default "Antimalware Service Executable"

On Mon, 08 Jul 2019 16:00:01 -0700 (Seattle), LO AND BEHOLD;
Jeff-Relf.Me @.@ determined that the following was of great importance
and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
:

✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ Someone replied ( to me ):
✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ If anyone knows how to kill "Antimalware Service Executable", Windows
✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ 10, v1903, I'm all ears.
✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ Find the exe file and delete it ?
✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡
✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ Can't delete it, can't rename it, can't "unlock" it, not even with a
✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ reboot.
✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡

boot to a linux CD/DVD and frigging delete it, ya ditz.

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  #21  
Old July 9th 19, 07:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default "TamperProtection"=dword:0 worked.

Jeff-Relf.Me @.@ wrote:
Thanks Paul, "TamperProtection"=dword:0 worked;
"Antimalware Service Executable" no longer runs.

From "http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Win10.REG.TXT":

; Take ownership of "Windows Defender" ( and children ) -Manually-,
; take "Full Control", Merge+ReBoot.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Features]
"TamperProtection"=dword:0

; Must Merge+ReBoot. Turns Windows Defender On[Off]:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Win dows Defender]
; "DisableAntiSpyware"=-
"DisableAntiSpyware"=dword:1

There are two keys for the Windows Defender disable, on a 64-bit OS.


No, the "WOW6432Node" thing isn't necessary;
x32 settings == x64 settings; changing one changes the other.

Note that I suspect the 32-bit OS I was testing in,
the crash was actually related to a "trip wire".

Windows has exploit protection with a name like "fast crash",
where rather than be exploited, the machine just resets.

And it can do that in a few instruction times.
It doesn't **** around. That's one of the defense strategies,
if a trip wire is set off.


Really ?! I've never seen that.


OK, think I got it.

Elevating with psexec -hsi cmd, to SYSTEM, didn't work.

Needed the heavy artillery. No more foolin around.

Had to resort to Kaspersky Rescue Disc 10 "Regedit". The
offline scanner disc happens to have a very nice registry editor.
All running under a Gentoo-like OS.

https://i.postimg.cc/3NBpbVnN/kasper...sc-regedit.gif

https://i.postimg.cc/C1pqMS2d/proofski.gif

And you're correct, in that in this case, there isn't
even the right structure to be adding to the WOW one,
so forget it. It still seems to work, with just
two regedits. You have to add the second key, which
is missing.

"Tamper, for the win"

Paul
  #22  
Old July 12th 19, 07:47 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.privacy.anon-server
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Default Debian 10 "buster" released

Some services in windows, if you stop them from task manager,
will restart automatically.


If anyone knows how to kill "Antimalware Service Executable",
Windows 10, v1903, I'm all ears.

I'm not too worried about it, I don't think it's necessary.
I did kill Cortana, however, using a wooden stake.
  #23  
Old July 12th 19, 07:47 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default Kill "Antimalware Service Executable".

Paul replied ( to me ):
If anyone knows how to kill "Antimalware Service Executable",
Windows 10, v1903, I'm all ears.
I'm not too worried about it, I don't think it's necessary.


use GPEDIT on Pro.


I'm using The Home Edition; no GPEDIT; besides,
I don't think that would actually remove the process.
I bet you can't do it.
  #24  
Old July 12th 19, 07:47 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default Remove the "Antimalware Service Executable".

Paul replied ( to me ):
Remove the "Antimalware Service Executable".


I'm using The Home Edition; no GPEDIT; besides,
I don't think that would actually remove the process.
I bet you can't do it.


DisableAntiSpyware DWORD 1


I set that variable many years ago.

https://i.postimg.cc/VvnXcKzy/Task-Manager.gif


That's not "Antimalware Service Executable"; see:

http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Antimalware.Service.Executable.PNG
  #25  
Old July 12th 19, 07:47 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default Remove the "Antimalware Service Executable".

Paul,

I already did the "DisableAntiSpyware" thing, long ago;
still, "Antimalware Service Executable" is running; see:

http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Antimalware.Service.Executable.PNG

I don't know what you're doing different.
Are you not running Windows 10, v1903, all updates ?
  #26  
Old July 12th 19, 07:47 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.privacy.anon-server
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Default "Antimalware Service Executable"

Someone replied ( to me ):
If anyone knows how to kill "Antimalware Service Executable",
Windows 10, v1903, I'm all ears.


Find the exe file and delete it ?


Can't delete it, can't rename it, can't "unlock" it,
not even with a reboot.
  #27  
Old July 12th 19, 07:47 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default Remove the "Antimalware Service Executable".

Paul,

I can't access the "Tamper Prevention" dialogue; see:
http://Jeff-Relf.Me/No.Tamper.Prevention.PNG

It can't possibly be that yours is Home and mine is Pro,
because both are "uncontrollable rubbish".


I think you can do it, and I can't,
because I'm using the Home Edition, v1903.

around when 1903 showed up,
You could use Security Panel to turn off Real Time protection,
and [MsMpEng] would turn itself back on again.

If you try to use the slider again ( off|on ) nothing happens.
So something did change in the last release.


Right, I think they took another **** on us Home Edition users, v1903.
  #28  
Old July 12th 19, 07:47 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default "Home Edition" weenies.

Someone replied ( to me ):
Remove the "Antimalware Service Executable".
Are you not running Windows 10, v1903, all updates ?


I'm curious if you just uninstalled Windows Defender?


That's not an option, especially for us "Home Edition" weenies.
Besides, I like Windows Defender, sometimes ( not always ).
  #29  
Old July 12th 19, 07:47 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default "TamperProtection"=dword:0 worked.

Thanks Paul, "TamperProtection"=dword:0 worked;
"Antimalware Service Executable" no longer runs.

From "http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Win10.REG.TXT":

; Take ownership of "Windows Defender" ( and children ) -Manually-,
; take "Full Control", Merge+ReBoot.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Features]
"TamperProtection"=dword:0

; Must Merge+ReBoot. Turns Windows Defender On[Off]:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Win dows Defender]
; "DisableAntiSpyware"=-
"DisableAntiSpyware"=dword:1

There are two keys for the Windows Defender disable, on a 64-bit OS.


No, the "WOW6432Node" thing isn't necessary;
x32 settings == x64 settings; changing one changes the other.

Note that I suspect the 32-bit OS I was testing in,
the crash was actually related to a "trip wire".

Windows has exploit protection with a name like "fast crash",
where rather than be exploited, the machine just resets.

And it can do that in a few instruction times.
It doesn't **** around. That's one of the defense strategies,
if a trip wire is set off.


Really ?! I've never seen that.
 




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