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Can this Acer Laptop Run Win 10?
Paul wrote in :
The Man in the High Castle wrote: ray carter wrote: On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 12:46:20 +0200, Jack of Diamonds wrote: It had Win 7 Home on it when new: Acer 7741G 17", i3 at 2.16 Ghz, 4G RAM, ATI Mobiliity Radeon HD 5470up 2234 Hypermemory, 512MB dedicated. I don't know about 'running' - I would think it would more 'crawl'. With an SSD? It depends on how many "toys" you fit on it. My laptop slides from "barely acceptable" to "not acceptable", when you add a printer package and a webcam package. That's how sensitive it is with just one CPU core. The webcam package leaves a service running, even when the webcam is unplugged. The SSD improves boot time. The SSD cannot improve situations where you are CPU bound. Paul I would be a little concerned about performance with only 4gb of RAM as well. |
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Can this Acer Laptop Run Win 10?
On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 20:37:03 GMT, lonelydad
wrote: Paul wrote in : The Man in the High Castle wrote: ray carter wrote: On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 12:46:20 +0200, Jack of Diamonds wrote: It had Win 7 Home on it when new: Acer 7741G 17", i3 at 2.16 Ghz, 4G RAM, ATI Mobiliity Radeon HD 5470up 2234 Hypermemory, 512MB dedicated. I don't know about 'running' - I would think it would more 'crawl'. With an SSD? It depends on how many "toys" you fit on it. My laptop slides from "barely acceptable" to "not acceptable", when you add a printer package and a webcam package. That's how sensitive it is with just one CPU core. The webcam package leaves a service running, even when the webcam is unplugged. The SSD improves boot time. The SSD cannot improve situations where you are CPU bound. Paul I would be a little concerned about performance with only 4gb of RAM as well. How much RAM you need for adequate performance depends on what programs you run. For most people who don't edit large graphics or video files, 4GB provides acceptable performance. |
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Can this Acer Laptop Run Win 10?
Ken Blake wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 20:37:03 GMT, lonelydad wrote: Paul wrote in : The Man in the High Castle wrote: ray carter wrote: On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 12:46:20 +0200, Jack of Diamonds wrote: It had Win 7 Home on it when new: Acer 7741G 17", i3 at 2.16 Ghz, 4G RAM, ATI Mobiliity Radeon HD 5470up 2234 Hypermemory, 512MB dedicated. I don't know about 'running' - I would think it would more 'crawl'. With an SSD? It depends on how many "toys" you fit on it. My laptop slides from "barely acceptable" to "not acceptable", when you add a printer package and a webcam package. That's how sensitive it is with just one CPU core. The webcam package leaves a service running, even when the webcam is unplugged. The SSD improves boot time. The SSD cannot improve situations where you are CPU bound. Paul I would be a little concerned about performance with only 4gb of RAM as well. How much RAM you need for adequate performance depends on what programs you run. For most people who don't edit large graphics or video files, 4GB provides acceptable performance. Under pressure, the core of Win10 can run in 350MB of RAM. That leaves ~3.7GB of RAM out of a precious 4GB of RAM, for personal use. Why, that's enough for three Yahoo News pages in Firefox! At the same time! :-/ Of course, you don't have enough CPU to play 12 Flash videos at the same time, but who is counting. 4GB is plenty 4GB-8GB-16GB is good Above 16GB, the scaling starts to fail. If you have 1TB of RAM on a computer, it'll take 8 minutes to initialize and 8 minutes to malloc. It might have seemed like a good idea, but "for code which is eventually going to fail because it leaks", you get to wait eight minutes to discover your 1TB of RAM still isn't enough... In my opinion, 16GB is still a good choice. Once you go above that, you start to pay a small price for the "excess" in hand. I learned these things, by starting the Test Machine with 16GB, and later pulling the sticks and putting 64GB. It *is* fun. But occasionally you have regrets. If you run WPA or ProcMon and do a boot trace, you can watch Windows 10 boot "waste" a period of time proportional to RAM size. At 64GB, this wasted time (no forward progress on boot), lasts 20 seconds. With 1TB of RAM, that time would stretch to 320 seconds. And that's not BIOS initialization. That's some sort of security scheme, the nature of which I don't have documentation for. It's not ASLR. It might actually be encryption. AFAIK, the BIOS is supposed to zero the RAM before handing it to the OS. The time spent implies the OS is no longer comfortable with a zero fill and wants something else in there. Paul |
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Can this Acer Laptop Run Win 10?
On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 12:46:20 +0200, Jack of Diamonds
wrote: It had Win 7 Home on it when new: Acer 7741G 17", i3 at 2.16 Ghz, 4G RAM, ATI Mobiliity Radeon HD 5470up 2234 Hypermemory, 512MB dedicated. It will run Windows 10 very nicely. Minimum requirements are 1 Ghz CPU and 1 GB RAM. |
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Can this Acer Laptop Run Win 10?
On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 07:35:44 -0400, Big Al wrote:
On 7/10/19 6:58 AM, wasbit wrote: "Jack of Diamonds" wrote in message ... It had Win 7 Home on it when new: Acer 7741G 17", i3 at 2.16 Ghz, 4G RAM, ATI Mobiliity Radeon HD 5470up 2234 Hypermemory, 512MB dedicated. Windows 10 System Requirements - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wind...specifications Processor:* 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster compatible processor or System on a Chip (SoC) RAM:* 1 gigabyte (GB) for 32-bit or 2 GB for 64-bit Hard drive size:* 32GB or larger hard disk Graphics card:* Compatible with DirectX 9 or later with WDDM 1.0 driver Display:**** 800x600 Internet Connection: (if you don't have an ISO) Yes, but it's an i3 processor. 2.1Ghz. I wouldn't touch win10 on a 1Ghz machine!!!. I had Windows 10 running on a desktop computer which had a 2.8 Ghz dual core Pentium and 1 GB RAM. It ran OK. Al |
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