After the Free Year, You Have to Pay

.. . .winston wrote:
A wrote:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/29238...er-lapses.html




That's not what the article states

Did you read it before crafting the title of your initial post/message

In summary.
If you don't upgrade in the first year after Windows 10 is released, it
will be necessary to purchase the full version product at whatever the
retail (or disounted) price is from MSFT or 3rd party resellers.




And if you do take advantage of the free offer, it expires at the end of
the year and if you want updates or upgrades, you will have to pay for them.

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A

"A" wrote in message ...
. . .winston wrote:
A wrote:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/29238...er-lapses.html




That's not what the article states

Did you read it before crafting the title of your initial post/message

In summary.
If you don't upgrade in the first year after Windows 10 is released, it
will be necessary to purchase the full version product at whatever the
retail (or disounted) price is from MSFT or 3rd party resellers.




And if you do take advantage of the free offer, it expires at the end of
the year and if you want updates or upgrades, you will have to pay for
them.


That's not what it says. You're reading something into the article that
isn't stated at all.

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SC Tom

SC Tom wrote:


"A" wrote in message ...
. . .winston wrote:
A wrote:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/29238...er-lapses.html





That's not what the article states

Did you read it before crafting the title of your initial post/message

In summary.
If you don't upgrade in the first year after Windows 10 is released, it
will be necessary to purchase the full version product at whatever the
retail (or disounted) price is from MSFT or 3rd party resellers.




And if you do take advantage of the free offer, it expires at the end
of the year and if you want updates or upgrades, you will have to pay
for them.


That's not what it says. You're reading something into the article that
isn't stated at all.


Really? What does this mean, then:

In a post to Microsoft’s Australian Partner Network—and first spotted
by Neowin—Alex Snelson, a Windows product marketing manager at Microsoft
Australia, clarified what will happen after the deadline:

“Microsoft will offer a free upgrade to Windows 10 for qualified
Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8.1 devices in the first year.
After the first year, upgrades will be paid via boxed product and VL
Upgrades.�


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A

On 5/21/2015 8:45 PM, A wrote:
SC Tom wrote:


"A" wrote in message ...
. . .winston wrote:
A wrote:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/29238...er-lapses.html






That's not what the article states

Did you read it before crafting the title of your initial post/message

In summary.
If you don't upgrade in the first year after Windows 10 is released, it
will be necessary to purchase the full version product at whatever the
retail (or disounted) price is from MSFT or 3rd party resellers.




And if you do take advantage of the free offer, it expires at the end
of the year and if you want updates or upgrades, you will have to pay
for them.


That's not what it says. You're reading something into the article that
isn't stated at all.


Really? What does this mean, then:

In a post to Microsoft’s Australian Partner Network—and first spotted
by Neowin—Alex Snelson, a Windows product marketing manager at Microsoft
Australia, clarified what will happen after the deadline:

“Microsoft will offer a free upgrade to Windows 10 for qualified
Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8.1 devices in the first year.
After the first year, upgrades will be paid via boxed product and VL
Upgrades.�

The upgrade is free only during the 1st year of its release. After that
period, if you then decide you want to upgrade to Win10 the upgrade is
no longer free.

Upgrade for free the 1st year. If you let the 1-year free period pass
you by without upgrading & then decide you want to upgrade, you pay.

Roderick Stewart wrote on 5/20/2015 6:55 AM:
On Wed, 20 May 2015 12:19:23 +0200, A wrote:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/29238...er-lapses.html

Another good reason to stay with Windows 7, a perfectly adequate
operating system which is effectively "free" from now until 2020
because I've already paid for it. Why pay more?

Rod.

I take it that you get a copy for free if you jump in within the first year.
It's only those that wait a year that have to pay. If you pick up the free copy, it's free for the lifetime of that
PC, same as Windows 7 etc.

This isn't news to me, I've heard this reported for months now.
I think people are just getting the free for one year mixed up with "you only get a year free and then have to buy". I
don't think this will be the way.

IMHO.

-= Hawk =- wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2015 13:45:21 +0200, A scribbled:

SC Tom wrote:


"A" wrote in message ...
. . .winston wrote:
A wrote:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/29238...er-lapses.html





That's not what the article states

Did you read it before crafting the title of your initial post/message

In summary.
If you don't upgrade in the first year after Windows 10 is released, it
will be necessary to purchase the full version product at whatever the
retail (or disounted) price is from MSFT or 3rd party resellers.




And if you do take advantage of the free offer, it expires at the end
of the year and if you want updates or upgrades, you will have to pay
for them.


That's not what it says. You're reading something into the article that
isn't stated at all.


Really? What does this mean, then:

In a post to Microsoft’s Australian Partner Network—and first spotted
by Neowin—Alex Snelson, a Windows product marketing manager at Microsoft
Australia, clarified what will happen after the deadline:

“Microsoft will offer a free upgrade to Windows 10 for qualified
Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8.1 devices in the first year.
After the first year, upgrades will be paid via boxed product and VL
Upgrades.”

It means what it says. Upgrading TO 10 is free for the first year. After
that upgrading TO 10 will cost you. UPGRADE not UPDATE.


OK, now I get it.

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A

"A" wrote in message ...
SC Tom wrote:


"A" wrote in message ...
. . .winston wrote:
A wrote:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/29238...er-lapses.html





That's not what the article states

Did you read it before crafting the title of your initial
post/message

In summary.
If you don't upgrade in the first year after Windows 10 is
released, it
will be necessary to purchase the full version product at whatever
the
retail (or disounted) price is from MSFT or 3rd party resellers.




And if you do take advantage of the free offer, it expires at the
end
of the year and if you want updates or upgrades, you will have to
pay
for them.


That's not what it says. You're reading something into the article
that
isn't stated at all.


Really? What does this mean, then:

In a post to Microsoft’s Australian Partner Network—and first spotted
by Neowin—Alex Snelson, a Windows product marketing manager at
Microsoft Australia, clarified what will happen after the deadline:

“Microsoft will offer a free upgrade to Windows 10 for qualified
Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8.1 devices in the first year.
After the first year, upgrades will be paid via boxed product and VL
Upgrades.�

This is fairly simple and your posting misinformation and trying to
complicate things.

If you have Windows 7, 8 or 8.1, you get a free upgrade to Windows 10
within the first year of its release. After the first year, you will
have to pay for an upgrade to Windows 10 if you didn't get it before
that first year expired. UPDATES are free, Microsoft stated that.
There is a difference between "upgrade" and "update". Once you install
Windows 10, updates are free, Microsoft has never stated otherwise.

A wrote:
. . .winston wrote:
A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-05-20 6:19 AM, A wrote:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/29238...er-lapses.html





You seem to be implying that they will require Windows users to pay for
a subscription like Office 365.

I wrote nor implied no such thing.

What a Microsoft representative was
quoted as saying said no such thing. Let's quote it from the article:

"“Microsoft will offer a free upgrade to Windows 10 for qualified
Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8.1 devices in the first year.
After the first year, upgrades will be paid via boxed product and VL
Upgrades.�"

In other words, if you don't upgrade for free during the first year,
you
will be able to do so on day 366 and on by buying the product at a
store. If the product is purchased, you will get updates for free for
the lifetime of that device.


Yeah, like the subject says, "you have to pay".


No, what your title of the message implied is that even if folks upgrade
in the first year they will have to pay after the first year.



And they do for updates and upgrades.


Still trying to sell that bridge ?

Sources to validate what you've stated don't exist.


--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

A wrote:
. . .winston wrote:
A wrote:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/29238...er-lapses.html





That's not what the article states

Did you read it before crafting the title of your initial post/message

In summary.
If you don't upgrade in the first year after Windows 10 is released, it
will be necessary to purchase the full version product at whatever the
retail (or disounted) price is from MSFT or 3rd party resellers.




And if you do take advantage of the free offer, it expires at the end of
the year and if you want updates or upgrades, you will have to pay for
them.

Nope.

--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

A wrote:
SC Tom wrote:


"A" wrote in message ...
. . .winston wrote:
A wrote:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/29238...er-lapses.html






That's not what the article states

Did you read it before crafting the title of your initial post/message

In summary.
If you don't upgrade in the first year after Windows 10 is released, it
will be necessary to purchase the full version product at whatever the
retail (or disounted) price is from MSFT or 3rd party resellers.




And if you do take advantage of the free offer, it expires at the end
of the year and if you want updates or upgrades, you will have to pay
for them.


That's not what it says. You're reading something into the article that
isn't stated at all.


Really? What does this mean, then:

In a post to Microsoft’s Australian Partner Network—and first spotted
by Neowin—Alex Snelson, a Windows product marketing manager at Microsoft
Australia, clarified what will happen after the deadline:

“Microsoft will offer a free upgrade to Windows 10 for qualified
Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8.1 devices in the first year.
After the first year, upgrades will be paid via boxed product and VL
Upgrades.�



Exactly what I stated earlier, if you don't upgrade 7,8x in the first
year the upgrade will require on to purchase full version software (from
MSFT or 3rd party selling Win10) or have access to a VL to upgrade.



--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

.. . .winston wrote:
A wrote:
SC Tom wrote:


"A" wrote in message ...
. . .winston wrote:
A wrote:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/29238...er-lapses.html







That's not what the article states

Did you read it before crafting the title of your initial post/message

In summary.
If you don't upgrade in the first year after Windows 10 is
released, it
will be necessary to purchase the full version product at whatever the
retail (or disounted) price is from MSFT or 3rd party resellers.




And if you do take advantage of the free offer, it expires at the end
of the year and if you want updates or upgrades, you will have to pay
for them.


That's not what it says. You're reading something into the article that
isn't stated at all.


Really? What does this mean, then:

In a post to Microsoft’s Australian Partner Network—and first spotted
by Neowin—Alex Snelson, a Windows product marketing manager at Microsoft
Australia, clarified what will happen after the deadline:

“Microsoft will offer a free upgrade to Windows 10 for qualified
Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8.1 devices in the first year.
After the first year, upgrades will be paid via boxed product and VL
Upgrades.�



Exactly what I stated earlier, if you don't upgrade 7,8x in the first
year the upgrade will require on to purchase full version software (from
MSFT or 3rd party selling Win10) or have access to a VL to upgrade.




I get it now like I posted yesterday.

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A

On Thu, 21 May 2015 08:46:02 -0400, Big_Al wrote:

Roderick Stewart wrote on 5/20/2015 6:55 AM:
On Wed, 20 May 2015 12:19:23 +0200, A wrote:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/29238...er-lapses.html

Another good reason to stay with Windows 7, a perfectly adequate
operating system which is effectively "free" from now until 2020
because I've already paid for it. Why pay more?

Rod.

I take it that you get a copy for free if you jump in within the first year.
It's only those that wait a year that have to pay. If you pick up the free copy, it's free for the lifetime of that
PC, same as Windows 7 etc.

This isn't news to me, I've heard this reported for months now.
I think people are just getting the free for one year mixed up with "you only get a year free and then have to buy". I
don't think this will be the way.

IMHO.


I'm so completely confused, so I'm going to buy the didsk & do a fresh
install.

aioesnipUpgrades.�"

In other words, if you don't upgrade for free during the first year, you
will be able to do so on day 366 and on by buying the product at a
store. If the product is purchased, you will get updates for free for
the lifetime of that device.


Yeah, like the subject says, "you have to pay".


No, what your title of the message implied is that even if folks upgrade
in the first year they will have to pay after the first year.



uh, A, yeah that's pretty much what you implied, I mean for Christ sake
people have a f-ing year to make up their mind and upgrade, if they're
that lazy to upgrade to win 10 in a year time then....... whatever

Vitalic on "lazy":

aioesnipUpgrades.�"

In other words, if you don't upgrade for free during the first year,
you will be able to do so on day 366 and on by buying the product at
a store. If the product is purchased, you will get updates for free
for the lifetime of that device.


Yeah, like the subject says, "you have to pay".


If you upgrade during the free period, it's yours for the life of the OS.


No, what your title of the message implied is that even if folks
upgrade in the first year they will have to pay after the first year.

That's what I "inferred".


uh, A, yeah that's pretty much what you implied, I mean for Christ sake
people have a f-ing year to make up their mind and upgrade, if they're
that lazy to upgrade to win 10 in a year time then....... whatever


"Lazy"?!? A whole year, huh?!? I've had Win8.1 loaded up for well over a
year on one machine, maintained all of its updates... and it's STILL A POS!
It DOES NOT logically follow that Win10 will be an "improvement" - in any
empirical terms.

If Win10 is anything like Win7, Win8 and Win8.1; Win10 could be a veritable
****-whirlpool where you have to go on full-out expeditions to find out where
temporary files and excess are stored (to clean your caches) and then figure
out which Windows folders bloat over time (like the IE updates folders, which
could grow to in excess of 1.5GB with files; there simply in case you wanted
to roll-back an update - which nobody ever did because it would virtually
disable your browser for many websites...); OR, dig around looking for
maintenance tools, like disc-cleanup (like in Win8.1, which has to run
another extensive time-consuming analyze procedure if you opt to clean up
"system files"... and then take nearly an hour to "clean up" old update
files...); OR defrag... which clunks around for 40-min and does absolutely
nothing at all; et-al; ad-nauseum...

You have to go on a mining/spelunking expedition to locate and use the newest
versions of Windows maintenance tools -- and they're even more crippled and
retarded than they ever used to be...

And it's been well over a year since that technological marvel (Win8 and 8.1)
rolled out and displaced a perfectly and efficiently usable format for
accessing computer options (WinXP). Notably, it took WinXP over a year to
evolve from basic release to SP3 which was wonderfully reliable and stable.

[Win7 DID NOT "displace" WinXP because XP's life cycle was still in effect.]

M$ could have incorporated ALL their "improvements", eye-candy, dancing
displays, and big-ass icons into the same organizational format as WinXP -
and still released newer versions of their Windows visionary concepts...

MOST PEOPLE DO NOT WANT to constantly tinker with their computer
machines... THEY DO NOT WANT to learn a whole new lexicon (language)
everytime some abstract concept advances in the world of computer software
development... THEY DO NOT WANT to hunt down another whole set of tracking-
cookies (or other back-door-devices) everytime a new programming language
surfaces (e.g., Adobe Flash)... they just want relative safety and security
to just do what they routinely do, run the basic maintenance and then get on
with their real lives... M$ seems out of touch with that very basic concept.

M$ also seems to have WAY TOO MANY sycophants expousing the fallacy that
"change" equates to "progress". That's what Hitler said.

M$ is like Hitler in many ways. Most notably, Europe keeps thwarting its
efforts to take over. But also, they keep telling us how wonderful all these
"improvments" are, while they actually shackle, chain, and enslave us to a
senseless and disorganized entity which spys on us, exploits us financially,
then mines, stores and hides information for yet more future exploitation
prospects - including usage by a fascist government which would imprison us
in their growing corporate system of slavery and oppression.

Whenever anything is labeled as "FREE" - history teaches us to BEWARE!!!

HTH.

--

I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^;
Repent, the end is near... Or
just smoke 'em if you got 'em.

http://tinyurl.com/ocnqvgq

Peter Jason wrote on 5/22/2015 9:05 PM:
On Thu, 21 May 2015 08:46:02 -0400, Big_Al wrote:

Roderick Stewart wrote on 5/20/2015 6:55 AM:
On Wed, 20 May 2015 12:19:23 +0200, A wrote:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/29238...er-lapses.html

Another good reason to stay with Windows 7, a perfectly adequate
operating system which is effectively "free" from now until 2020
because I've already paid for it. Why pay more?

Rod.

I take it that you get a copy for free if you jump in within the first year.
It's only those that wait a year that have to pay. If you pick up the free copy, it's free for the lifetime of that
PC, same as Windows 7 etc.

This isn't news to me, I've heard this reported for months now.
I think people are just getting the free for one year mixed up with "you only get a year free and then have to buy". I
don't think this will be the way.

IMHO.


I'm so completely confused, so I'm going to buy the didsk & do a fresh
install.

You'll be able to do that even with the free upgrade. It's already been clarified that ISO's or such will be available.