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Old May 22nd 19, 07:01 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Knightly
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New to windows 10 and do not like it.

What can I do to make it more like previous windows version so I do not
have a big learning curve.

Tanks in advance.
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Old May 22nd 19, 07:41 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Big Al[_5_]
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On 5/22/19 2:01 PM, Knightly wrote:
New to windows 10 and do not like it.

What can I do to make it more like previous windows version so I do not
have a big learning curve.

Tanks in advance.


My personal opinion is to learn how to use the system rather than trying
to add 3rd party tools to change it. Microsoft is making constant
changes and there is no love lost if any of these things break. To
them, it's there system to do what they want.

I find that deleting all the unwanted items from the menu by just right
clicking and unpin them works to simplify the menu. Then you can find
your most used programs on the alphabetical menu and right click them
and pin to start each. You'll now have a one click menu to get to all
you often used software. It is rather fast once you get used to it.

And it won't change since that's MS's design.

However some people are loading start-10 menu. It is a paid program but
~$5.00 US is not much for a good product. I think you can use it for a
trial period. It does change the menu to look a bit like win 7.


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Old May 22nd 19, 07:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Knightly wrote:

New to windows 10 and do not like it.

What can I do to make it more like previous windows version so I do not
have a big learning curve.


There's Classic Shell that reintroduces the old Start menu and, as I
recall, some features back in Windows/File Explorer. However, it went
unsupported awhile back, and users have already started to note that it
is getting more broke.

Start10 also brings back the old Start Menu, but with Stardock's
additional features.

Just remember that if you cling to the ancient GUI that you won't learn
the new one. If you are very lucky and ever only have to use your own
computer(s) the way you set them up then go ahead and tweak how you
want. However, if you need to use someone else's computer or the tweak
tools fail to work anymore, you're back to figuring out how to use the
standard Win10 GUI. Your library likely has dummies and tips books on
Windows 10 that you can peruse at home in your off-hours to learn the OS
as it is provided from Microsoft. Just remember that books are often
outdated by technology, so something written back in 2015 to 2017 (which
meant when it was published, not when the author wrote the content)
could be out of alignment with the current feature set of the OS.
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Old May 22nd 19, 08:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Neil
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On 5/22/2019 2:01 PM, Knightly wrote:
New to windows 10 and do not like it.

What can I do to make it more like previous windows version so I do not
have a big learning curve.

That's an unobtainable situation. The more you screw with Win10, the
more you'll need to know to keep it from crashing.

You didn't say what you mean by "previous windows version", but if you
meant older than Win8.1, bite the bullet and learn it.

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best regards,

Neil
  #5  
Old May 22nd 19, 09:01 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
😉 Good Guy 😉
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On 22/05/2019 19:01, Knightly wrote:
New to windows 10 and do not like it.


Sorry to hear this. you must be a very old man who doesn't like new
things. what exactly don't you like about Windows 10? Have you tried
to use it or have you just given up? You do need to switch on the
machine before you can use it.

What can I do to make it more like previous windows version so I do
not have a big learning curve.


What "previous windows"? there were many. are you talking about
Windows 8 or 8.1? If so then Windows 10 is almost identical to that
version. However, if you are talking about Windows 7 then you can
simply delete everything in the Windows Start Screen that pops out when
you click the Windows Logo in the bottom Left Corner to browse your
applications. After deleting them, your system will look like Windows 7
except with Windows 10 dark colours if you haven't changed anything.

One thing you should avoid is to install any 3rd party malware that
pretends to make Windows look like Windows 95 because this is going to
steal your bank accounts and passwords.



Tanks in advance.


If this reply is not what you were looking for because you are an
askhole, then please go to any Linux Newsgroup and ask them if they have
anything resembling "previous Windows". I'm sure they have many distros
around.

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Old May 22nd 19, 10:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Keith Nuttle
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On 5/22/2019 2:01 PM, Knightly wrote:
New to windows 10 and do not like it.

What can I do to make it more like previous windows version so I do not
have a big learning curve.

Tanks in advance.

I agree, bit the bullet and learn to use Windows 10 (W10). While it
will take a little work to learn W10, it will take a lot more work to
keep it looking like a previous versions of W10. As Windows 10 updates,
it will take more work to keep it acting like the obsolete version. At
some point that may no longer be possible.

On the positive side, yes it takes a little work to learn the
idiosyncrasies of W10. However you will find the differences between
previous version and W10 is indeed only idiosyncrasies as the things you
learned in the previous version are applicable to W10.

Though I hated the thought of upgrading, a person in a computer store
showed me the basic of W10, since then I have found that I like the W10.
How could you not like to get away from the old collapsing menus of
Pre Windows 8 version.



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Old May 22nd 19, 10:08 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Knightly wrote:
New to windows 10 and do not like it.

What can I do to make it more like previous windows version so I do not
have a big learning curve.

Tanks in advance.


They really need to write an article like this for Windows 10,
so all the options are stored in one place. This article
really isn't good enough to track down Win10 options.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compar...or_Windows_ 8

And those only hide a portion of the issues you'll face.

If your previous OS was Windows XP, you *will be sorry* :-)

A Windows 8 user won't have any trouble getting stuff
done with Windows 10.

A lot of it is the permissions model, which 30% of users just
cannot stand to deal with. Lots of "why can't I write here"
"why can't I write there" and "why do I keep having to click
this UAC prompt" questions. This is conceptually hard to
explain to people, how crap like that could possibly keep
them safe. Knowledgeable IT guys call this "Security Theater",
which tells you what it's all worth in the end.

The container era of Windows 10 is coming soon, and if you
thought life is tough now, you ain't seen nothing yet...
It'll be like trying to do your taxes, while you're
wrapped head to toe in duct tape. That's how much fun
it's going to be. But, they call this progress... of a sort.
I call it "hardware abuse" :-/ And "a waste of CPU cycles".

Paul
  #8  
Old May 23rd 19, 10:48 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
wasbit[_4_]
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Default Windows Experience

"Knightly" wrote in message
...
New to windows 10 and do not like it.

What can I do to make it more like previous windows version so I do not
have a big learning curve.

Tanks in advance.


You haven't told us your previous Windows version.
I run Windows 8.1 with Classic Shell & Windows 10 in Oracle VM.
You need a licence for both.

BTW, why are you sending the tanks in?

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Regards
wasbit

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Old May 23rd 19, 02:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Springer[_2_]
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On 5/22/19 12:41 PM, Big Al wrote:
On 5/22/19 2:01 PM, Knightly wrote:
New to windows 10 and do not like it.

What can I do to make it more like previous windows version so I do not
have a big learning curve.

Tanks in advance.


My personal opinion is to learn how to use the system rather than trying
to add 3rd party tools to change it. Microsoft is making constant
changes and there is no love lost if any of these things break. To
them, it's there system to do what they want.


Those constant changes, I find, simply keep you having to relearn
different areas of the system, which is a waste of your time if you are
trying to be efficient in your use of the system as part of a business
situation.

I find that deleting all the unwanted items from the menu by just right
clicking and unpin them works to simplify the menu.


Some of those items are "live tiles",, that are constantly updating. I
don't know if simply removing them from the menu shuts them down, so I
turn the live tiles off before unpinning. I do not delete them, since
you never know if you will want one in the future. If you do delete
them, you can log into the Microsoft Store and reinstall. At least,
that's my understanding.

Then you can find
your most used programs on the alphabetical menu and right click them
and pin to start each.


Not necessarily. Not all programs will show up in the alphabetical
list, but you can get them pinned to the area where the tiles are.

For instance, my portable HD Sentinel is not in the alphabetical list.

Knightly, the alphabetical list is essentially the All Programs part of
the Windows 7 Start Menu. One plus of the new Start Menu, IMO, is when
you are in the alphabetical list, click on the letter at the beginning
of each alphabetical grouping. (I can't remember if it's left or right
click, ATM.) Then click on the letter from the pop-up, and you'll go
straight to that section of the list.

snip


However some people are loading start-10 menu. It is a paid program but
~$5.00 US is not much for a good product. I think you can use it for a
trial period. It does change the menu to look a bit like win 7.


VanguardLH mentioned Classic Shell. The software has been passed on and
is now called Open Shell. https://open-shell.github.io/Open-Shell-Menu/
I have it running in my W10 admin account, but not in the standard
account.

One plus is, you have access to the new start menu from the Open Shell
menu if you wish. But, with the new Start Menu, there's a "power"
context menu available if you right click on the icon, That right click
feature apparently does not work if you use Open Shell.


--
Ken
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Firefox 67.0
Thunderbird 60.7
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
  #10  
Old May 23rd 19, 09:10 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Neil
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On 5/23/2019 9:51 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 5/22/19 12:41 PM, Big Al wrote:
On 5/22/19 2:01 PM, Knightly wrote:
New to windows 10 and do not like it.

What can I do to make it more like previous windows version so I do not
have a big learning curve.

Tanks in advance.


My personal opinion is to learn how to use the system rather than trying
to add 3rd party tools to change it.Â*Â* Microsoft is making constant
changes and there is no love lost if any of these things break.Â* To
them, it's there system to do what they want.


Those constant changes, I find, simply keep you having to relearn
different areas of the system, which is a waste of your time if you are
trying to be efficient in your use of the system as part of a business
situation.

I haven't seen *any* changes to the Win10 UI over the last 2 years. Then
again, I don't use 3rd party apps to modify the UI, I don't belong to
the "insiders" group, and I have been able to work with the only
interruptions being the very rare forced reboots at inconvenient times.

I find that deleting all the unwanted items from the menu by just right
clicking and unpin them works to simplify the menu.


Some of those items are "live tiles",, that are constantly updating.Â* I
don't know if simply removing them from the menu shuts them down, so I
turn the live tiles off before unpinning.

Unpinning them from the Start menu does not remove them from the system.
They still appear in the list of apps and can be launched from there.
So, you could safely unpin all of the tiles without consequences. I
prefer to resize, rearrange, and leave those that I use active.

Then you can find
your most used programs on the alphabetical menu and right click them
and pin to start each.


Not necessarily.Â* Not all programs will show up in the alphabetical
list, but you can get them pinned to the area where the tiles are.

For instance, my portable HD Sentinel is not in the alphabetical list.

Is your portable HD a program or a file? That may explain why you don't
see it in your file list.

(chop)

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Neil
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Old May 24th 19, 11:35 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Eric Stevens
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On Thu, 23 May 2019 07:51:03 -0600, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 5/22/19 12:41 PM, Big Al wrote:
On 5/22/19 2:01 PM, Knightly wrote:
New to windows 10 and do not like it.

What can I do to make it more like previous windows version so I do not
have a big learning curve.

Tanks in advance.


My personal opinion is to learn how to use the system rather than trying
to add 3rd party tools to change it. Microsoft is making constant
changes and there is no love lost if any of these things break. To
them, it's there system to do what they want.


Those constant changes, I find, simply keep you having to relearn
different areas of the system, which is a waste of your time if you are
trying to be efficient in your use of the system as part of a business
situation.


Yet a surprising number of cries for help on this newsgroup come from
people who have installed 3rd party software or made nonstandard mods
to Windows to make it look and feel like some earlie version of
Windows to which they have got used. It has always puzzled me as I
would have thought that it is no harder to learn how to use whatever
MS has offered than it it is to work out how to make it behave like
something else.

--- snip ---
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Regards,

Eric Stevens
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Old May 24th 19, 12:59 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

What can I do to make it more like previous windows version so I do not
have a big learning curve.

Tanks in advance.

My personal opinion is to learn how to use the system rather than trying
to add 3rd party tools to change it. Microsoft is making constant
changes and there is no love lost if any of these things break. To
them, it's there system to do what they want.


Those constant changes, I find, simply keep you having to relearn
different areas of the system, which is a waste of your time if you are
trying to be efficient in your use of the system as part of a business
situation.


Yet a surprising number of cries for help on this newsgroup come from
people who have installed 3rd party software or made nonstandard mods
to Windows to make it look and feel like some earlie version of
Windows to which they have got used. It has always puzzled me as I
would have thought that it is no harder to learn how to use whatever
MS has offered than it it is to work out how to make it behave like
something else.


people hate change.
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Old May 24th 19, 01:23 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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nospam wrote:
In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

What can I do to make it more like previous windows version so I do not
have a big learning curve.

Tanks in advance.
My personal opinion is to learn how to use the system rather than trying
to add 3rd party tools to change it. Microsoft is making constant
changes and there is no love lost if any of these things break. To
them, it's there system to do what they want.
Those constant changes, I find, simply keep you having to relearn
different areas of the system, which is a waste of your time if you are
trying to be efficient in your use of the system as part of a business
situation.

Yet a surprising number of cries for help on this newsgroup come from
people who have installed 3rd party software or made nonstandard mods
to Windows to make it look and feel like some earlie version of
Windows to which they have got used. It has always puzzled me as I
would have thought that it is no harder to learn how to use whatever
MS has offered than it it is to work out how to make it behave like
something else.


people hate change.


People want productivity. They expect to use
muscle memory to get work done.

Paul
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Old May 24th 19, 02:17 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Paul
wrote:

Yet a surprising number of cries for help on this newsgroup come from
people who have installed 3rd party software or made nonstandard mods
to Windows to make it look and feel like some earlie version of
Windows to which they have got used. It has always puzzled me as I
would have thought that it is no harder to learn how to use whatever
MS has offered than it it is to work out how to make it behave like
something else.


people hate change.


People want productivity. They expect to use
muscle memory to get work done.


that's true, but often the changes improve productivity, so it's worth
it.
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Old May 24th 19, 03:24 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Keith Nuttle
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On 5/24/2019 8:23 AM, Paul wrote:
People want productivity. They expect to use
muscle memory to get work done.

That is the point, why spend the additional time trying to keep the look
of an old OS version, when you can learn the new systems and start using
the system as soon as the update is installed.

While there are thing I like and don't like about Windows 10, I would
rather use it to do the job at hand rather that constantly fussing with
it and third party software just so I don't have to learn something new.

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