I need dual bank recommendation

On 6/10/19 11:58 PM, Johann Beretta wrote:
I've got mine set up with a dual WAN configuration so if one input fails
theÂ*secondÂ*willÂ*automaticallyÂ*takeÂ*over.Â*Red undancyÂ*isÂ*awesome!

Ahhhh. I would love to have this feature!

In article , wrote:

I've got mine set up with a dual WAN configuration so if one input fails
the*second*will*automatically*take*over.*Redundanc y*is*awesome!

Ahhhh. I would love to have this feature!

many routers can do that, or be set up to load balance. some can use
the usb port and a cellular data stick rather than another wan port.

In article , Johann Beretta
wrote:

Blah. Edgerouters suck.. Ubiquiti trying, and failing, to produce
something approaching the functionality of Cloud Core Router

nonsense.

Johann Beretta writes:
I much prefer the European method of Day, Month, Year as it makes
computer lists sort in a much saner way, but......

Huh? If the goal is easy sorting of lines of text containing dates, a
format such as YYYY/MM/DD HH:MM:SS is what sorts trivially into time
sequence order. With Day, Month, Year, wouldn't July 6th (6/7) end up
between June 6th and 7th (6/6 and 7/6)?
-WBE

On 6/11/19 2:05 AM, Johann Beretta wrote:
On 6/9/19 9:53 PM, Lucifer wrote:
On Sun, 9 Jun 2019 17:38:15 -0700, T wrote:

On 6/9/19 7:13 AM, nospam wrote:

Your date is in the future. It's 10/6/19

snip

No.. In the US we write it as 6/10/19.. Month, Day, Year...

I much prefer the European method of Day, Month, Year as it makes
computer lists sort in a much saner way, but......

Day, Month, Year looks better than the mixed-up middle-endian Month,
Day, Year although sorting still wouldn't be right. It would put July 4
before June 5. I prefer Year-Month-Day which does sort right, as well as
being consistent with the way multi-digit numerals are written.

I write dates that way when I don't have to comply with someone else's
methods. Today is 2019-06-11 (note that it still works with the
delimiters omitted: 20190611),

BTW, 2 weeks until Leon Day.

Also, there's another date system that uses Year-Week-Weekday, where
today is 2019-W24-2 (2 means it's a Tuesday) and every week (and every
year) starts on Monday. That might be better (for one thing, no
irregular months) once we get used to it.

OT: There's a surprise at http://notstupid.us/?coffee

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"It's better to light a candle that to make up myths about the
darkness."

On 6/11/19 10:54 AM, Winston wrote:
Johann Beretta writes:
I much prefer the European method of Day, Month, Year as it makes
computer lists sort in a much saner way, but......

Huh? If the goal is easy sorting of lines of text containing dates, a
format such as YYYY/MM/DD HH:MM:SS is what sorts trivially into time
sequence order.

In order of significance. I have a directory of netcasts for about 4
years, using a similar method and it sorts properly. The filenames start
like this:

2018-12-18 ...
2018-12-25 ...
2019-01-01 ...
2019-01-08 ...

(I used a delimiter of - instead of / because of it being generally
acceptable in file names).

With Day, Month, Year, wouldn't July 6th (6/7) end up
between June 6th and 7th (6/6 and 7/6)?
-WBE

And dates in different years would be mixed in with each other. For my
example, it would have the 2 from 2019 before the 2 from 2018.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"It's better to light a candle that to make up myths about the
darkness."

On 6/11/19 5:39 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , wrote:

I've got mine set up with a dual WAN configuration so if one input fails
theÂ*secondÂ*willÂ*automaticallyÂ*takeÂ*over.Â*Red undancyÂ*isÂ*awesome!

Ahhhh. I would love to have this feature!

many routers can do that, or be set up to load balance. some can use
the usb port and a cellular data stick rather than another wan port.


I do the cellular data stick thing with Watchguard
firewalls. It is flaky.

On 6/11/19 11:50 AM, T wrote:
On 6/11/19 5:39 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , wrote:

I've got mine set up with a dual WAN configuration so if one input
fails
theÂ*secondÂ*willÂ*automaticallyÂ*takeÂ*over.Â*Red undancyÂ*isÂ*awesome!

Ahhhh.Â* I would love to have this feature!

many routers can do that, or be set up to load balance. some can use
the usb port and a cellular data stick rather than another wan port.


I do the cellular data stick thing with Watchguard
firewalls.Â* It is flaky.



For instance, when the Internet goes down, it does not failover.
You have to "unplug" the firewall for 10 minutes (power cycling
does not work), then power back up and it will fail over properly.

It is a pain in the ass.

On 6/11/19 5:39 AM, nospam wrote: In article
, wrote:

I've got mine set up with a dual WAN configuration so if one input
fails
the second will automatically take over. Redundancy is awesome!

Ahhhh. I would love to have this feature!

many routers can do that, or be set up to load balance. some can use
the usb port and a cellular data stick rather than another wan port.

Many can, but the majority of $150 (or less) routers cannot. Few home
users have a redundant connection, which is why this feature is
_usually_ only found in business / industry class hardware.

Using a cellular data stick as your redundant connection isn't a great
idea if you have data caps like 90% of subscribers. Unless your router
has some way of notifying you that it has switched to the secondary
connection, it's not going to take long to blow through your gigabytes
if you do any type of video streaming.

On Mikrotik hardware that functionality is trivial to implement via a
script (I'm a big fan of their hardware) and they also have routers
specifically designed to support cellular data sticks.

https://www.amazon.com/MikroTik-Rout...dp/B01BMMK4HI/

On 6/11/19 5:39 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , Johann Beretta
wrote:

Blah. Edgerouters suck.. Ubiquiti trying, and failing, to produce
something approaching the functionality of Cloud Core Router

nonsense.

Hardly. I've been using Ubiquiti gear since Day 1. I've probably
deployed $100,000 worth of their hardware, but they haven't come up with
a router or switch that's worth a crap. Not when you compare them to
the competition. Sure, their stuff is better today than it was 5 years
ago, They're improving, but no.. You take hardware like Netonix's WISP
switch and there is hardly a comparison. Short of a firmware update,
those boxes will run for years, literally, without human intervention. I
can't remember the last time I saw a piece of Ubiquiti hardware that had
an uptime of greater than 100 days or so. They'll stay up longer if they
serve very light loads, but you start pumping a few TB a day through
them and they go down faster than a broke hooker.

Ubiquiti has spread itself too thin and lost sight of its core business.
They want to be everything to everybody and are no longer specializing.
They want to supply carrier class gear, they want to supply SOHO gear,
and they want to supply everything in between. Cisco made that mistake
too.. And they went bankrupt..

Specialization breeds competence. There's a reason why Brain Surgeons
are specialists.. There's a reason why a plumber usually doesn't
moonlight as a framer..

Ubiquiti revolutionized the wireless hardware side of the equation by
making it truly affordable and easy. They need to stick to that and
leave the routing and switching functions to specialists. I bitched the
day they started implementing firewall and routing functions into their
****. Their firmware hasn't been equally as stable since. I remember
when you could get 2 years out of a Powerstation 5D before you had to
reboot it..

Well, enough ranting I guess

On 6/11/19 8:54 AM, Winston wrote:
Johann Beretta writes:
I much prefer the European method of Day, Month, Year as it makes
computer lists sort in a much saner way, but......

Huh? If the goal is easy sorting of lines of text containing dates, a
format such as YYYY/MM/DD HH:MM:SS is what sorts trivially into time
sequence order. With Day, Month, Year, wouldn't July 6th (6/7) end up
between June 6th and 7th (6/6 and 7/6)?
-WBE

Oh yeah.. you got me, I was thinking of that and writing totally
different.. I was thinking of month then day.. But you're absolutely
correct that having the year in the front is what makes the lists sorts
easily.

On 6/11/19 10:37 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
snip
Day, Month, Year looks better than the mixed-up middle-endian Month,
Day, Year although sorting still wouldn't be right. It would put July 4
before June 5. I prefer Year-Month-Day which does sort right, as well as
being consistent with the way multi-digit numerals are written.


You're absolutely correct. I totally misspoke earlier. I do use the
YYYY/MM/DD format myself. A snippit from my photo directory


2018-10-31_17-09-21.jpg
2018-10-31_17-09-25.jpg
2018-10-31_17-09-30.jpg
2018-10-31_17-09-36.jpg
2018-10-31_17-09-42.jpg
2018-10-31_17-09-46.jpg
2018-10-31_17-09-51.jpg
2018-10-31_17-09-58.jpg
2018-10-31_17-10-03.jpg
2018-10-31_17-10-19.jpg

YYY-MM-DD_HH-MI-SS

On 6/13/19 2:05 AM, Johann Beretta wrote:
On 6/11/19 5:39 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , Johann Beretta
wrote:

Blah. Edgerouters suck.. Ubiquiti trying, and failing, to produce
something approaching the functionality of Cloud Core Router

nonsense.

Hardly. I've been using Ubiquiti gear since Day 1.Â* I've probably
deployed $100,000 worth of their hardware, but they haven't come up with
a router or switch that's worth a crap.Â* Not when you compare them to
the competition.Â* Sure, their stuff is better today than it was 5 years
ago, They're improving, but no.. You take hardware like Netonix's WISP
switch and there is hardly a comparison.Â* Short of a firmware update,
those boxes will run for years, literally, without human intervention. I
can't remember the last time I saw a piece of Ubiquiti hardware that had
an uptime of greater than 100 days or so. They'll stay up longer if they
serve very light loads, but you start pumping a few TB a day through
them and they go down faster than a broke hooker.

Ubiquiti has spread itself too thin and lost sight of its core business.
They want to be everything to everybody and are no longer specializing.
They want to supply carrier class gear, they want to supply SOHO gear,
and they want to supply everything in between.Â* Cisco made that mistake
too.. And they went bankrupt..

Specialization breeds competence.Â* There's a reason why Brain Surgeons
are specialists.. There's a reason why a plumber usually doesn't
moonlight as a framer..

Ubiquiti revolutionized the wireless hardware side of the equation by
making it truly affordable and easy. They need to stick to that and
leave the routing and switching functions to specialists. I bitched the
day they started implementing firewall and routing functions into their
****.Â* Their firmware hasn't been equally as stable since.Â* I remember
when you could get 2 years out of a Powerstation 5D before you had to
reboot it..

Well, enough ranting I guessÂ*


That does explain what I see with Ubiquite. Some excellent
stuff and some junk. And UI's from hell.

In article , Johann Beretta
wrote:

I've got mine set up with a dual WAN configuration so if one input
fails
the second will automatically take over. Redundancy is awesome!

Ahhhh. I would love to have this feature!

many routers can do that, or be set up to load balance. some can use
the usb port and a cellular data stick rather than another wan port.

Many can, but the majority of $150 (or less) routers cannot. Few home
users have a redundant connection, which is why this feature is
_usually_ only found in business / industry class hardware.

and commonly found in many consumer routers, even some cheapos.

Using a cellular data stick as your redundant connection isn't a great
idea if you have data caps like 90% of subscribers. Unless your router
has some way of notifying you that it has switched to the secondary
connection, it's not going to take long to blow through your gigabytes
if you do any type of video streaming.

using a cellular data stick is for a fallback.

it would never be used unless the main connection fails, which is
generally very rare.

On Mikrotik hardware that functionality is trivial to implement via a
script (I'm a big fan of their hardware) and they also have routers
specifically designed to support cellular data sticks.

for most routers, no script is needed. just a couple of clicks.

Johann Beretta wrote:

No.. In the US we write it as 6/10/19.. Month, Day, Year...

I much prefer the European method of Day, Month, Year as it makes
computer lists sort in a much saner way, but......

YYYY-MM-DD

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601