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In C:\ My name used to be "Rene", Now I notice since the clean install
It is "rlamo", How and where can I change it back to "Rene" ? Windows 10 1903 18362.175 Thanks Rene |
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Rene Lamontagne wrote:
In C:\ My name used to be "Rene", Now I notice since the clean install It is "rlamo", How and where can I change it back to "Rene" ? Windows 10 1903 18362.175 Thanks Rene Looks like damaged from the usage of an MSA. I wonder what the recommended "best practice" is for this ? Because it sucks, and it's happened to me before, and it screws up file sharing and so on. Paul |
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On 24/06/2019 19.33, Paul wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote: In C:\ My name used to be "Rene", Now I notice since the clean install It is "rlamo", How and where can I change it back to "Rene" ? Windows 10 1903 18362.175 Â*Thanks Rene Looks like damaged from the usage of an MSA. I wonder what the recommended "best practice" is for this ? Because it sucks, and it's happened to me before, and it screws up file sharing and so on. I once changed my user name (not a Microsoft account). Perhaps under W7. I changed it, and it seemed to work: the login changed, the correct name was displayed... but internally, the filesystem had both names. Linked, perhaps, I don't remember. A pain in the nameless backside. -- Cheers, Carlos. |
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Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 24/06/2019 19.33, Paul wrote: Rene Lamontagne wrote: In C:\ My name used to be "Rene", Now I notice since the clean install It is "rlamo", How and where can I change it back to "Rene" ? Windows 10 1903 18362.175 Thanks Rene Looks like damaged from the usage of an MSA. I wonder what the recommended "best practice" is for this ? Because it sucks, and it's happened to me before, and it screws up file sharing and so on. I once changed my user name (not a Microsoft account). Perhaps under W7. I changed it, and it seemed to work: the login changed, the correct name was displayed... but internally, the filesystem had both names. Linked, perhaps, I don't remember. A pain in the nameless backside. But that's not what we're discussing here. We're discussing "what happens if you select MSA during Win10 install" and happen to fall for the "recommended" path of using an MSA, versus a local account. The MSA becomes the "naming convention" for the home dir, at odds with the rest of your computing room. I recognize that pattern, and that dir name came from an MSA (characters extracted from the beginning of the MSA). Of course you can mess around, and get yourself into a lot of trouble by changing (again) the home directory name. I wouldn't personally recommend this approach to anyone, because you're swimming upstream when you do that. That's just asking for trouble. Paul |
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On 24/06/2019 19:33, Paul wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote: In C:\ My name used to be "Rene", Now I notice since the clean install It is "rlamo", How and where can I change it back to "Rene" ? Windows 10 1903 18362.175 Â*Thanks Rene Looks like damaged from the usage of an MSA. I wonder what the recommended "best practice" is for this ? Because it sucks, and it's happened to me before, and it screws up file sharing and so on. Â*Â* Paul I know you can change the user name, but the folder names of the account won't change. So you can change the user (login) name to Rene, but your folder name will still be C:\Users\rlamo. What I would do, is copy all stuff from that directory to an external drive, remove the account, create a new account under your name, and copy it all back. What do you think, Paul? Fokke |
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Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 24/06/2019 19:33, Paul wrote: Rene Lamontagne wrote: In C:\ My name used to be "Rene", Now I notice since the clean install It is "rlamo", How and where can I change it back to "Rene" ? Windows 10 1903 18362.175 Thanks Rene Looks like damaged from the usage of an MSA. I wonder what the recommended "best practice" is for this ? Because it sucks, and it's happened to me before, and it screws up file sharing and so on. Paul I know you can change the user name, but the folder names of the account won't change. So you can change the user (login) name to Rene, but your folder name will still be C:\Users\rlamo. What I would do, is copy all stuff from that directory to an external drive, remove the account, create a new account under your name, and copy it all back. What do you think, Paul? Fokke I'm just going by my recollection this is not side-effect-free. The registry could be full of references to a path like that. If I thought this was somehow officially supported, I'd be telling you to jump in with both feet. Paul |
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On 2019-06-24 2:06 p.m., Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 24/06/2019 19:33, Paul wrote: Rene Lamontagne wrote: In C:\ My name used to be "Rene", Now I notice since the clean install It is "rlamo", How and where can I change it back to "Rene" ? Windows 10 1903 18362.175 Â*Thanks Rene Looks like damaged from the usage of an MSA. I wonder what the recommended "best practice" is for this ? Because it sucks, and it's happened to me before, and it screws up file sharing and so on. Â*Â*Â* Paul I know you can change the user name, but the folder names of the account won't change. So you can change the user (login) name to Rene, but your folder name will still be C:\Users\rlamo. What I would do, is copy all stuff from that directory to an external drive, remove the account, create a new account under your name, and copy it all back. What do you think, Paul? Fokke Yes, I did use my MSA when I did the fresh install, It's not a huge deal but it pee's me off because I hate things that are not "Just Right". If nothing else shows up I will try your suggestion, I have good backups from yesterday. Rene Rene |
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On 6/24/19 5:01 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-06-24 2:06 p.m., Fokke Nauta wrote: On 24/06/2019 19:33, Paul wrote: Rene Lamontagne wrote: In C:\ My name used to be "Rene", Now I notice since the clean install It is "rlamo", How and where can I change it back to "Rene" ? Windows 10 1903 18362.175 Â*Thanks Rene Looks like damaged from the usage of an MSA. I wonder what the recommended "best practice" is for this ? Because it sucks, and it's happened to me before, and it screws up file sharing and so on. Â*Â*Â* Paul I know you can change the user name, but the folder names of the account won't change. So you can change the user (login) name to Rene, but your folder name will still be C:\Users\rlamo. What I would do, is copy all stuff from that directory to an external drive, remove the account, create a new account under your name, and copy it all back. What do you think, Paul? Fokke Yes, I did use my MSA when I did the fresh install, It's not a huge deal but it pee's me off because I hate things that are notÂ* "Just Right". If nothing else shows up I will try your suggestion, I have good backups from yesterday. Rene Rene I've done a few installs and found this out just like Rene did. My current practice is to load Windows and not use the MSA and use a local account where I can use alan (lower case) as my name. Once I'm done, I go into account settings a switch it to MSA and all is fine. The now linked MSA account with my hardware activates the system and my home is C:\users\alan as all my tools etc want it to be. Al |
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On 2019-06-24 4:01 p.m., Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-06-24 2:06 p.m., Fokke Nauta wrote: On 24/06/2019 19:33, Paul wrote: Rene Lamontagne wrote: In C:\ My name used to be "Rene", Now I notice since the clean install It is "rlamo", How and where can I change it back to "Rene" ? Windows 10 1903 18362.175 Â*Thanks Rene Looks like damaged from the usage of an MSA. I wonder what the recommended "best practice" is for this ? Because it sucks, and it's happened to me before, and it screws up file sharing and so on. Â*Â*Â* Paul I know you can change the user name, but the folder names of the account won't change. So you can change the user (login) name to Rene, but your folder name will still be C:\Users\rlamo. What I would do, is copy all stuff from that directory to an external drive, remove the account, create a new account under your name, and copy it all back. What do you think, Paul? Fokke Yes, I did use my MSA when I did the fresh install, It's not a huge deal but it pee's me off because I hate things that are notÂ* "Just Right". If nothing else shows up I will try your suggestion, I have good backups from yesterday. Rene It won't let me copy, move, rename or delete that directory, so that sorta stops me for now. Rene |
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On 24/06/2019 20.08, Paul wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote: On 24/06/2019 19.33, Paul wrote: Rene Lamontagne wrote: In C:\ My name used to be "Rene", Now I notice since the clean install It is "rlamo", How and where can I change it back to "Rene" ? Windows 10 1903 18362.175 Â*Thanks Rene Looks like damaged from the usage of an MSA. I wonder what the recommended "best practice" is for this ? Because it sucks, and it's happened to me before, and it screws up file sharing and so on. I once changed my user name (not a Microsoft account). Perhaps under W7. I changed it, and it seemed to work: the login changed, the correct name was displayed... but internally, the filesystem had both names. Linked, perhaps, I don't remember. A pain in the nameless backside. But that's not what we're discussing here. We're discussing "what happens if you select MSA during Win10 install" and happen to fall for the "recommended" path of using an MSA, versus a local account. The MSA becomes the "naming convention" for the home dir, at odds with the rest of your computing room. I recognize that pattern, and that dir name came from an MSA (characters extracted from the beginning of the MSA). I see. I have always avoided MSA, on principle. So you gave me one more reason :-) Of course you can mess around, and get yourself into a lot of trouble by changing (again) the home directory name. I wouldn't personally recommend this approach to anyone, because you're swimming upstream when you do that. That's just asking for trouble. Yep. -- Cheers, Carlos. |
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On 6/24/19 5:28 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-06-24 4:01 p.m., Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 2019-06-24 2:06 p.m., Fokke Nauta wrote: On 24/06/2019 19:33, Paul wrote: Rene Lamontagne wrote: In C:\ My name used to be "Rene", Now I notice since the clean install It is "rlamo", How and where can I change it back to "Rene" ? Windows 10 1903 18362.175 Â*Thanks Rene Looks like damaged from the usage of an MSA. I wonder what the recommended "best practice" is for this ? Because it sucks, and it's happened to me before, and it screws up file sharing and so on. Â*Â*Â* Paul I know you can change the user name, but the folder names of the account won't change. So you can change the user (login) name to Rene, but your folder name will still be C:\Users\rlamo. What I would do, is copy all stuff from that directory to an external drive, remove the account, create a new account under your name, and copy it all back. What do you think, Paul? Fokke Yes, I did use my MSA when I did the fresh install, It's not a huge deal but it pee's me off because I hate things that are notÂ* "Just Right". If nothing else shows up I will try your suggestion, I have good backups from yesterday. Rene It won't let meÂ* copy, move, rename or delete that directory, so that sorta stops me for now. I would expect that. Rene You could use your current login and make a new login as rene or Rene, make it admin and make it a local account. Copy all the good data from the current account to a USB or external drive or a generic folder in the \users\default folder etc. This will void any permission issues and allow the rene account to copy them into that accounts folders and assume permission. At least on the surface that seems like a good work around. I guess you could then purge the MSA account and switch your rene account to the MSA login. At least IMHO. (Make an image or two :-) That or as you say, just do the load over again. Al |
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On 24/06/2019 22:27, Big Al wrote:
I've done a few installs and found this out just like Rene did. It's because you are a known idiot using some crap and hoping that Windows 10 will behave like your crap. I have never seen or read such crap like what you've posted here. I do clean installs and they all go smoothly as I always wanted. I'm the only one who always recommends people to do clean installs when they can't get upgrades automatically but there are idiots like you who wants easy life not knowing that clean install IS in fact easy life. My current practice is to load Windows and not use the MSA Yes your current practice is to load Windows just because your next door neighbour has got a wonderful Windows10 working smoothly and your crap isn't. Path: aioe.org!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Big Al Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10 Subject: User name change Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:27:56 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 51 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 21:27:56 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="4431ee5277ebc4a49a4882218ad33274"; logging-data="19054"; "; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18pT2UYSKbHHrxoGMyoFfWscXP9j1ZeW ag=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.1 Cancel-Lock: sha1:sr8IEwMIv9XkX8t3OuJWrOFfHfE= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Mozilla-News-Host: news://news.eternal-september.com Xref: aioe.org alt.comp.os.windows-10:94190 -- With over 999 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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Rene Lamontagne wrote:
In C:\ My name used to be "Rene", Now I notice since the clean install It is "rlamo", How and where can I change it back to "Rene" ? Windows 10 1903 18362.175 Thanks Rene "In C:\ ..." That's the file system. Are you asking how to rename the volume label on your C: drive from whatever it is to "Rene"? Or are you asking to change the name of your %userprofile% folder from C:\Users\rlamo to C:\Users\Rene? Here's one plan but it is involved and may not be the fastest and easiest method. - Create a new Windows account (another user). * Whether that new account has admin priveleges depends on whether you want it that way. If your current account has admin privs, the new account should also. * Rather than walk through all the wizards, you can go do directly to where you can add a new account. Press Winkey+R (run dialog), and run: control.exe userpasswords2 Click the Add button. You'll load the new-account wizard. * DO NOT CREATE A NEW MICROSOFT ACCOUNT. That's what got you trapped into using a Microsoft account for login instead of a local/offline account like you've used before. o There are some advantages to using a Microsoft account (you can search for those online). o There are also some disadvantages, too, like you cannot create scheduled events in Task Scheduler that will run when you are not logged in, because Task Scheduler requires a password for those but Task Scheduler doesn't know how to handle MS accounts, only local/offline accounts. * If you don't care about any of the MS account advantages and want to use a local account (which Microsoft now likes to call an offline account to insinuate is a lesser choice than an MS account: o Make sure you click on "Sign in without a Microsoft account" at the bottom of the wizard's window. o Select "Local account" in the next window. - Microsoft really wants you using a MS account for login, but that's not what you want. They want the same dependency and control on their users that Google has on Android phone/tablet users (and likely the same by Apple for their iOS phone/tablet users). * Specify a username for the new account that also matches on the folder name you want for that account's user profile folder. In your case, name the new account "Rene". The %userprofile% folder's name will be the same. - Log out of your current Windows account. - Log into the new account. * This creates that account's profile folder. * It also adds the necessary registry entries to define that new account. - Log out of the new account. You only logged in there to define its profile. - Log into the Administrator account. * You may have to use the tricks noted online on how to unhide the Administrator account in the login screen, so you can log into it. * As I recall (and probably still works under Windows 10, the simplest way is to be logged in under an admin Windows account, open a command shell (cmd.exe) with admin privileges, and run: net user administrator /active:yes * Then logout of that admin-level account and choose the Administrator account on the login screen. o If prompted on the first login to Administrator to add a password, do it. o If you have never before logged into the Administrator group, its profile (folder and registry entries) get created. - While logged in under the Administrator account, copy your old account's profile atop the new account's profile. * Load the old System Properties app. Hit Winkey+R to display the Run dialog, and run: %windir%\system32\SystemPropertiesAdvanced.exe * Under the Advanced tab (should be there already), click Settings under the User Profiles section. * You may not see the Administrator account list, but that's already the one under which you are logged into. * You should see your old and new accounts. You'll see the other accounts, but not the one under which you are logged into. That's because you cannot copy a profile that is currently inuse. o There is a CopyTo button. o First select your old account (the source from you will copy). o Click the CopyTo button. o Browse to the profile folder for the new account, the target of to where you will copy the old account's profile folder. - The destination must already exist and why you had to previously log into the new account to create its profile folder. - Profiles folders are under C:\Users. - You want to copy the profile folder C:\users\rlamo atop the C:\Users\Rene folder. * You're copying one profile folder of one account atop the other account's profile folder. This doesn't work by just using File Explorer to copy one folder atop another. Permissons won't be correct for the new account's profile folder and, as I recall, some registry entries will be incorrect for the account's profile. - After the profile copy finishes, - As I recall, there is a Permitted to Use link or button. You have to use that to add the permissions of your new account onto the just-copied-over profile folder. - Reboot Windows. - Log into your new account. It should look the same as your old account except maybe for MS-specific stuff may not work, like live tiles in the Start menu). You know have the following accounts: - Default (don't ever logon under that one). - Your old account (as an MS account). - Your new local/offline Windows account. - Your old and new accounts have the same profile content, so they should be pretty much the same. I'd keep the old MS account around for awhile. It might come in handy later. Plus its size on the drive and being quiescent while you're not using it means it doesn't hurt to leave it around. However, as you continue to alter your new local/offline profile, it will drift away from the setup under your old MS account's profile. Whew, that was so easy, wasn't it (rolls-eyes). That's why I've only done it maybe twice in 17 years of using Windows. That's why the above instructions are probably close to the steps needed to copy one profile atop the other, so your new account looks like your old one, but those instructions may not be 100% accurate. It's possible to do the registry edits and folder copying yourself (and then try to get the SID permissions changed in the new profile to use the new account's SID instead of the old account SID's permissions). There might be a shorter and easier process, but I figure it's safer to do it the Microsoft way. In Windows 10, you can change an MS account to a local/offline account but that just changes the purpose of the account, not where is its %userprofile% folder. I didn't mind writing the above, because I may have to soon go through that process to create a new local/offline Windows account to get away from using an MS account. I wanted to test using an MS account, but it offers nothing that I want and causes problems with standard procedures, like events in Task Scheduler that need to run under my account but whether I'm logged or not at the time the event is scheduled to run. |
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On 2019-06-24 11:25 p.m., VanguardLH wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote: In C:\ My name used to be "Rene", Now I notice since the clean install It is "rlamo", How and where can I change it back to "Rene" ? Windows 10 1903 18362.175 Thanks Rene "In C:\ ..." That's the file system. Are you asking how to rename the volume label on your C: drive from whatever it is to "Rene"? Or are you asking to change the name of your %userprofile% folder from C:\Users\rlamo to C:\Users\Rene? Here's one plan but it is involved and may not be the fastest and easiest method. - Create a new Windows account (another user). * Whether that new account has admin priveleges depends on whether you want it that way. If your current account has admin privs, the new account should also. * Rather than walk through all the wizards, you can go do directly to where you can add a new account. Press Winkey+R (run dialog), and run: control.exe userpasswords2 Click the Add button. You'll load the new-account wizard. * DO NOT CREATE A NEW MICROSOFT ACCOUNT. That's what got you trapped into using a Microsoft account for login instead of a local/offline account like you've used before. o There are some advantages to using a Microsoft account (you can search for those online). o There are also some disadvantages, too, like you cannot create scheduled events in Task Scheduler that will run when you are not logged in, because Task Scheduler requires a password for those but Task Scheduler doesn't know how to handle MS accounts, only local/offline accounts. * If you don't care about any of the MS account advantages and want to use a local account (which Microsoft now likes to call an offline account to insinuate is a lesser choice than an MS account: o Make sure you click on "Sign in without a Microsoft account" at the bottom of the wizard's window. o Select "Local account" in the next window. - Microsoft really wants you using a MS account for login, but that's not what you want. They want the same dependency and control on their users that Google has on Android phone/tablet users (and likely the same by Apple for their iOS phone/tablet users). * Specify a username for the new account that also matches on the folder name you want for that account's user profile folder. In your case, name the new account "Rene". The %userprofile% folder's name will be the same. - Log out of your current Windows account. - Log into the new account. * This creates that account's profile folder. * It also adds the necessary registry entries to define that new account. - Log out of the new account. You only logged in there to define its profile. - Log into the Administrator account. * You may have to use the tricks noted online on how to unhide the Administrator account in the login screen, so you can log into it. * As I recall (and probably still works under Windows 10, the simplest way is to be logged in under an admin Windows account, open a command shell (cmd.exe) with admin privileges, and run: net user administrator /active:yes * Then logout of that admin-level account and choose the Administrator account on the login screen. o If prompted on the first login to Administrator to add a password, do it. o If you have never before logged into the Administrator group, its profile (folder and registry entries) get created. - While logged in under the Administrator account, copy your old account's profile atop the new account's profile. * Load the old System Properties app. Hit Winkey+R to display the Run dialog, and run: %windir%\system32\SystemPropertiesAdvanced.exe * Under the Advanced tab (should be there already), click Settings under the User Profiles section. * You may not see the Administrator account list, but that's already the one under which you are logged into. * You should see your old and new accounts. You'll see the other accounts, but not the one under which you are logged into. That's because you cannot copy a profile that is currently inuse. o There is a CopyTo button. o First select your old account (the source from you will copy). o Click the CopyTo button. o Browse to the profile folder for the new account, the target of to where you will copy the old account's profile folder. - The destination must already exist and why you had to previously log into the new account to create its profile folder. - Profiles folders are under C:\Users. - You want to copy the profile folder C:\users\rlamo atop the C:\Users\Rene folder. * You're copying one profile folder of one account atop the other account's profile folder. This doesn't work by just using File Explorer to copy one folder atop another. Permissons won't be correct for the new account's profile folder and, as I recall, some registry entries will be incorrect for the account's profile. - After the profile copy finishes, - As I recall, there is a Permitted to Use link or button. You have to use that to add the permissions of your new account onto the just-copied-over profile folder. - Reboot Windows. - Log into your new account. It should look the same as your old account except maybe for MS-specific stuff may not work, like live tiles in the Start menu). You know have the following accounts: - Default (don't ever logon under that one). - Your old account (as an MS account). - Your new local/offline Windows account. - Your old and new accounts have the same profile content, so they should be pretty much the same. I'd keep the old MS account around for awhile. It might come in handy later. Plus its size on the drive and being quiescent while you're not using it means it doesn't hurt to leave it around. However, as you continue to alter your new local/offline profile, it will drift away from the setup under your old MS account's profile. Whew, that was so easy, wasn't it (rolls-eyes). That's why I've only done it maybe twice in 17 years of using Windows. That's why the above instructions are probably close to the steps needed to copy one profile atop the other, so your new account looks like your old one, but those instructions may not be 100% accurate. It's possible to do the registry edits and folder copying yourself (and then try to get the SID permissions changed in the new profile to use the new account's SID instead of the old account SID's permissions). There might be a shorter and easier process, but I figure it's safer to do it the Microsoft way. In Windows 10, you can change an MS account to a local/offline account but that just changes the purpose of the account, not where is its %userprofile% folder. I didn't mind writing the above, because I may have to soon go through that process to create a new local/offline Windows account to get away from using an MS account. I wanted to test using an MS account, but it offers nothing that I want and causes problems with standard procedures, like events in Task Scheduler that need to run under my account but whether I'm logged or not at the time the event is scheduled to run. Yes something changed my "Rene" directory to "rlamo" and I want to change it back. Thanks for all the work you put in to write this up, I am going to print it out and when I have some free uninterpreted time I will go thru the procedure. If I mess up no big deal, I have fresh Macrium backups, Will post back in the next couple days with results. :-) Thanks, Rene |
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On 2019-06-25 9:20 a.m., Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-06-24 11:25 p.m., VanguardLH wrote: Rene Lamontagne wrote: In C:\ My name used to be "Rene", Now I notice since the clean install It is "rlamo", How and where can I change it back to "Rene" ? Windows 10 1903 18362.175 Â*Â* Thanks Rene "In C:\ ..."Â* That's the file system.Â* Are you asking how to rename the volume label on your C: drive from whatever it is to "Rene"? Or are you asking to change the name of your %userprofile% folder from C:\Users\rlamo to C:\Users\Rene?Â* Here's one plan but it is involved and may not be the fastest and easiest method. - Create a new Windows account (another user). Â*Â* * Whether that new account has admin priveleges depends on whether you Â*Â*Â*Â* want it that way.Â* If your current account has admin privs, the new Â*Â*Â*Â* account should also. Â*Â* * Rather than walk through all the wizards, you can go do directly to Â*Â*Â*Â* where you can add a new account.Â* Press Winkey+R (run dialog), and Â*Â*Â*Â* run: Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* control.exe userpasswords2 Â*Â*Â*Â* Click the Add button.Â* You'll load the new-account wizard. Â*Â* * DO NOT CREATE A NEW MICROSOFT ACCOUNT.Â* That's what got you trapped Â*Â*Â*Â* into using a Microsoft account for login instead of a local/offline Â*Â*Â*Â* account like you've used before. Â*Â*Â*Â* o There are some advantages to using a Microsoft account (you can Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* search for those online). Â*Â*Â*Â* o There are also some disadvantages, too, like you cannot create Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* scheduled events in Task Scheduler that will run when you are not Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* logged in, because Task Scheduler requires a password for those Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* but Task Scheduler doesn't know how to handle MS accounts, only Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* local/offline accounts. Â*Â* * If you don't care about any of the MS account advantages and want to Â*Â*Â*Â* use a local account (which Microsoft now likes to call an offline Â*Â*Â*Â* account to insinuate is a lesser choice than an MS account: Â*Â*Â*Â* o Make sure you click on "Sign in without a Microsoft account" at Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* the bottom of the wizard's window. Â*Â*Â*Â* o Select "Local account" in the next window. Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* - Microsoft really wants you using a MS account for login, but Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* that's not what you want.Â* They want the same dependency and Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* control on their users that Google has on Android phone/tablet Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* users (and likely the same by Apple for their iOS phone/tablet Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* users). Â*Â* * Specify a username for the new account that also matches on the Â*Â*Â*Â* folder name you want for that account's user profile folder.Â* In Â*Â*Â*Â* your case, name the new account "Rene".Â* The %userprofile% folder's Â*Â*Â*Â* name will be the same. - Log out of your current Windows account. - Log into the new account. Â*Â* * This creates that account's profile folder. Â*Â* * It also adds the necessary registry entries to define that new Â*Â*Â*Â* account. - Log out of the new account.Â* You only logged in there to define its Â*Â* profile. - Log into the Administrator account. Â*Â* * You may have to use the tricks noted online on how to unhide the Â*Â*Â*Â* Administrator account in the login screen, so you can log into it. Â*Â* * As I recall (and probably still works under Windows 10, the simplest Â*Â*Â*Â* way is to be logged in under an admin Windows account, open a Â*Â*Â*Â* command shell (cmd.exe) with admin privileges, and run: Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* net user administrator /active:yes Â*Â* * Then logout of that admin-level account and choose the Administrator Â*Â*Â*Â* account on the login screen. Â*Â*Â*Â* o If prompted on the first login to Administrator to add a password, Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* do it. Â*Â*Â*Â* o If you have never before logged into the Administrator group, its Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* profile (folder and registry entries) get created. - While logged in under the Administrator account, copy your old Â*Â* account's profile atop the new account's profile. Â*Â* * Load the old System Properties app.Â* Hit Winkey+R to display the Run Â*Â*Â*Â* dialog, and run: Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* %windir%\system32\SystemPropertiesAdvanced.exe Â*Â* * Under the Advanced tab (should be there already), click Settings Â*Â*Â*Â* under the User Profiles section. Â*Â* * You may not see the Administrator account list, but that's already Â*Â*Â*Â* the one under which you are logged into. Â*Â* * You should see your old and new accounts.Â* You'll see the other Â*Â*Â*Â* accounts, but not the one under which you are logged into.Â* That's Â*Â*Â*Â* because you cannot copy a profile that is currently inuse. Â*Â*Â*Â* o There is a CopyTo button. Â*Â*Â*Â* o First select your old account (the source from you will copy). Â*Â*Â*Â* o Click the CopyTo button. Â*Â*Â*Â* o Browse to the profile folder for the new account, the target of to Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* where you will copy the old account's profile folder. Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* - The destination must already exist and why you had to previously Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* log into the new account to create its profile folder. Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* - Profiles folders are under C:\Users. Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* - You want to copy the profile folder C:\users\rlamo atop the Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* C:\Users\Rene folder. Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* * You're copying one profile folder of one account atop the Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* other account's profile folder.Â* This doesn't work by just Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* using File Explorer to copy one folder atop another. Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Permissons won't be correct for the new account's profile Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* folder and, as I recall, some registry entries will be Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* incorrect for the account's profile. - After the profile copy finishes, - As I recall, there is a Permitted to Use link or button.Â* You have to Â*Â* use that to add the permissions of your new account onto the Â*Â* just-copied-over profile folder. - Reboot Windows. - Log into your new account.Â* It should look the same as your old Â*Â* account except maybe for MS-specific stuff may not work, like live Â*Â* tiles in the Start menu). You know have the following accounts: - Default (don't ever logon under that one). - Your old account (as an MS account). - Your new local/offline Windows account. - Your old and new accounts have the same profile content, so they Â*Â* should be pretty much the same. I'd keep the old MS account around for awhile.Â* It might come in handy later.Â* Plus its size on the drive and being quiescent while you're not using it means it doesn't hurt to leave it around.Â* However, as you continue to alter your new local/offline profile, it will drift away from the setup under your old MS account's profile. Whew, that was so easy, wasn't it (rolls-eyes).Â* That's why I've only done it maybe twice in 17 years of using Windows.Â* That's why the above instructions are probably close to the steps needed to copy one profile atop the other, so your new account looks like your old one, but those instructions may not be 100% accurate. It's possible to do the registry edits and folder copying yourself (and then try to get the SID permissions changed in the new profile to use the new account's SID instead of the old account SID's permissions). There might be a shorter and easier process, but I figure it's safer to do it the Microsoft way. In Windows 10, you can change an MS account to a local/offline account but that just changes the purpose of the account, not where is its %userprofile% folder.Â* I didn't mind writing the above, because I may have to soon go through that process to create a new local/offline Windows account to get away from using an MS account.Â* I wanted to test using an MS account, but it offers nothing that I want and causes problems with standard procedures, like events in Task Scheduler that need to run under my account but whether I'm logged or not at the time the event is scheduled to run. Yes something changed my "Rene" directory to "rlamo" and I want to change it back. Thanks for all the work you put in to write this up, I am going to print it out and when I have some free uninterpreted time I will go thru the procedure. If I mess up no big deal, I have fresh Macrium backups, Will post back in the next couple days with results. :-) Thanks, Rene Great, Got my profile name back to "Rene" Gotta tell you that is a long process and I screwed up a few times and had to reload my Macrium backup, But finally this morning I got it right and it worked. Thanks again VanguardLH. Rene |
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