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Old June 10th 10, 02:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
timOleary
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Posts: 147
Default using anti-malware causing 100% usage

Seems like of I let them all run, my PC is too busy for anything else.
Just superantispyware is causing 100% CPU usage, and then the next
time I start my PC, Verizon Internet Security Suite says it has been
partially disabled and I need to click Fix it.
I do and it gets fixed.
And while starting up, the blue "Windows id starting" screen takes
several minutes to pop up the administrator icon.

So of these: Superantispyware, malwarebytes, Spybot S&D and Verizon
Internet Security Suite;
How best to used these tools daily to protect my PC while at the same
time not imapair its performance



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  #2  
Old June 10th 10, 03:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Shenan Stanley
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Posts: 10,523
Default using anti-malware causing 100% usage

timOleary wrote:
Seems like of I let them all run, my PC is too busy for anything
else. Just superantispyware is causing 100% CPU usage, and then the
next time I start my PC, Verizon Internet Security Suite says it
has been partially disabled and I need to click Fix it.
I do and it gets fixed.
And while starting up, the blue "Windows id starting" screen takes
several minutes to pop up the administrator icon.

So of these: Superantispyware, malwarebytes, Spybot S&D and Verizon
Internet Security Suite;
How best to used these tools daily to protect my PC while at the
same time not imapair its performance


To answer the last statement (assuming you just left off the question mark)
you made...

You don't. Every day? Seriously? Why would you need to use them every
day?

Here's what I suggest, knowing nothing more about your computer than you
have given and what is probably safe to assume.

First - 'what you have given and what I assume"...

- You have a 32-bit version of Windows XP (Home, Professional, Media Center,
Tablet PC, etc.)
- It is likely at least updated to Service Pack 2 - hopefully up to and
beyond Service Pack 3.
- You have been hit by malware before.
- You have some AntiVirus package (perhaps a suite) your Internet Service
Provider (Verizon, maybe) gives away.

From that - I suggest this:
(Shouldn't cost you a dime, will cost you time and a couple of sheets of
paper if you print something.)

- Uninstall SuperAntiSpyware, SpyBot Search and Destroy, MalwareBytes and
any other 3rd party protection software/suite you have installed. Reboot.


- Uninstall the antivirus package (suite, etc) that your ISP gave you. Dump
it all. Remove it completely. Don't look back. Yes - do this. Reboot.

- Immediately download and _install_ Avira AntiVir:
http://www.free-av.de/en/trialpay_do...antivirus.html
(Download Now, left side.) Reboot afterwards, update Avira as necessary,
let it do a full scan on your computer. Reboot after it is done.

- Download and install Belarc Advisor (free -
http://belarc.com/Programs/advisor.exe) and let it run on your computer.
Print out the results and save them with your external backups, copies of
your software, product keys and other important computer backup/information
that you keep away from your computer 'just in case' things go wrong. Come
back here and let people know more about your computer - in particular what
processor you have, how much memory you have and how much "C:\" drive space
you have (free and total.)

- Ensure your Windows XP Firewall is enabled and at this point - *no
exceptions* are allowed. Simple instructions he
http://www.free-firewall.org/windows-xp-firewall.asp (Go there, follow the
instructions to get to the screenshotted stuff and check the box for "Don't
allow exceptions" on yours.)

- Cleanup your Windows XP system and make sure you have the latest/best
Windows Update components possible by following these steps:

Fix your file/registry permissions...

Ignore the title and follow the sub-section under
"Advanced Troubleshooting" titled,
"Method 1: Reset the registry and the file permissions"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949377
*will take time
** Ignore the last step - we are not installing SP3 NOW.

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Download/install this:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301

After installing, do the following:

Start button -- RUN -- type in:
"%ProgramFiles%\Windows Installer Clean Up\msizap.exe" g!
-- Click OK.
(The quotation marks and percentage signs and spacing
should be exact.)

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Download/Install the latest Windows Installer (for your OS):
( Windows XP 32-bit : WindowsXP-KB942288-v3-x86.exe )
http://www.microsoft.com/downloadS/d...displaylang=en

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Download the latest version of the Windows Update
agent from here (x86):
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=91237
... and save it to the root of your C:\ drive. After saving
it to the root of the C:\ drive, do the following:

Close all Internet Explorer windows and other
applications.

Start button -- RUN and type in:
%SystemDrive%\windowsupdateagent30-x86.exe /WUFORCE
-- Click OK.

(If asked, select "Run.) -- Click on NEXT --
Select "I agree" and click on NEXT -- When it
finishes installing, click on "Finish"...

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Visit this web page:

How do I reset Windows Update components?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058

... and click on the "Microsoft Fix it" icon. When asked,
select "RUN", both times. Check the "I agree" box and
click on "Next". Check the box for "Run aggressive
options (not recommended)" and click "Next". Let it
finish up and follow the prompts until it is done.
Close/exit.

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and select
to do a CUSTOM scan...

Every time you are about to click on something while
at these web pages - first press and hold down the
CTRL key while you click on it. You can release the
CTRL key after clicking each time.

Once the scan is done, select just _ONE_ of the high
priority updates (deselect any others) and install it.

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

If it did work - try the web page again - selecting no
more than 3-5 at a time. Rebooting as needed.

The Optional Software updates are generally safe
- although I recommend against the
"Windows Search" one and any of the "Office Live"
ones or "Windows Live" ones for now. I would
completely avoid the Optional Hardware updates.
Also - I do not see any urgent need to install
Internet Explorer 8 at this time.

You should now perform a full CHKDSK on your
system drive (C...

How to scan your disks for errors
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315265
* will take time and a reboot

You should now perform a full Defragment on
your system drive (C...

How to Defragment your hard drives
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314848
* will take time

- Now that your computer should be fairly clean and Windows XP should be
pretty well up to date with a fully functional Windows Update system - now
download and install the freeware version of MalwareBytes. Install it and
perform a full scan on your computer. Remove anything it finds (should find
little to nothing.) Don't have it running natively and don't worry about
running it more than once a week unless you just surf a lot of p0rn sites or
other questionable areas 'of interest'.

- Download and run the MSRT manually:
http://www.microsoft.com/security/ma...e/default.mspx

- Come back and let everyone here know more about your computer (from the
Belarc step above) and how it is running after doing all the above. You
should be using less resources for your protection, getting the same results
and worrying about it a lot less.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


  #3  
Old June 10th 10, 03:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Shenan Stanley
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Posts: 10,523
Default using anti-malware causing 100% usage

timOleary wrote:
Seems like of I let them all run, my PC is too busy for anything
else. Just superantispyware is causing 100% CPU usage, and then the
next time I start my PC, Verizon Internet Security Suite says it
has been partially disabled and I need to click Fix it.
I do and it gets fixed.
And while starting up, the blue "Windows id starting" screen takes
several minutes to pop up the administrator icon.

So of these: Superantispyware, malwarebytes, Spybot S&D and Verizon
Internet Security Suite;
How best to used these tools daily to protect my PC while at the
same time not imapair its performance


To answer the last statement (assuming you just left off the question mark)
you made...

You don't. Every day? Seriously? Why would you need to use them every
day?

Here's what I suggest, knowing nothing more about your computer than you
have given and what is probably safe to assume.

First - 'what you have given and what I assume"...

- You have a 32-bit version of Windows XP (Home, Professional, Media Center,
Tablet PC, etc.)
- It is likely at least updated to Service Pack 2 - hopefully up to and
beyond Service Pack 3.
- You have been hit by malware before.
- You have some AntiVirus package (perhaps a suite) your Internet Service
Provider (Verizon, maybe) gives away.

From that - I suggest this:
(Shouldn't cost you a dime, will cost you time and a couple of sheets of
paper if you print something.)

- Uninstall SuperAntiSpyware, SpyBot Search and Destroy, MalwareBytes and
any other 3rd party protection software/suite you have installed. Reboot.


- Uninstall the antivirus package (suite, etc) that your ISP gave you. Dump
it all. Remove it completely. Don't look back. Yes - do this. Reboot.

- Immediately download and _install_ Avira AntiVir:
http://www.free-av.de/en/trialpay_do...antivirus.html
(Download Now, left side.) Reboot afterwards, update Avira as necessary,
let it do a full scan on your computer. Reboot after it is done.

- Download and install Belarc Advisor (free -
http://belarc.com/Programs/advisor.exe) and let it run on your computer.
Print out the results and save them with your external backups, copies of
your software, product keys and other important computer backup/information
that you keep away from your computer 'just in case' things go wrong. Come
back here and let people know more about your computer - in particular what
processor you have, how much memory you have and how much "C:\" drive space
you have (free and total.)

- Ensure your Windows XP Firewall is enabled and at this point - *no
exceptions* are allowed. Simple instructions he
http://www.free-firewall.org/windows-xp-firewall.asp (Go there, follow the
instructions to get to the screenshotted stuff and check the box for "Don't
allow exceptions" on yours.)

- Cleanup your Windows XP system and make sure you have the latest/best
Windows Update components possible by following these steps:

Fix your file/registry permissions...

Ignore the title and follow the sub-section under
"Advanced Troubleshooting" titled,
"Method 1: Reset the registry and the file permissions"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949377
*will take time
** Ignore the last step - we are not installing SP3 NOW.

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Download/install this:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301

After installing, do the following:

Start button -- RUN -- type in:
"%ProgramFiles%\Windows Installer Clean Up\msizap.exe" g!
-- Click OK.
(The quotation marks and percentage signs and spacing
should be exact.)

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Download/Install the latest Windows Installer (for your OS):
( Windows XP 32-bit : WindowsXP-KB942288-v3-x86.exe )
http://www.microsoft.com/downloadS/d...displaylang=en

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Download the latest version of the Windows Update
agent from here (x86):
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=91237
... and save it to the root of your C:\ drive. After saving
it to the root of the C:\ drive, do the following:

Close all Internet Explorer windows and other
applications.

Start button -- RUN and type in:
%SystemDrive%\windowsupdateagent30-x86.exe /WUFORCE
-- Click OK.

(If asked, select "Run.) -- Click on NEXT --
Select "I agree" and click on NEXT -- When it
finishes installing, click on "Finish"...

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Visit this web page:

How do I reset Windows Update components?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058

... and click on the "Microsoft Fix it" icon. When asked,
select "RUN", both times. Check the "I agree" box and
click on "Next". Check the box for "Run aggressive
options (not recommended)" and click "Next". Let it
finish up and follow the prompts until it is done.
Close/exit.

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and select
to do a CUSTOM scan...

Every time you are about to click on something while
at these web pages - first press and hold down the
CTRL key while you click on it. You can release the
CTRL key after clicking each time.

Once the scan is done, select just _ONE_ of the high
priority updates (deselect any others) and install it.

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

If it did work - try the web page again - selecting no
more than 3-5 at a time. Rebooting as needed.

The Optional Software updates are generally safe
- although I recommend against the
"Windows Search" one and any of the "Office Live"
ones or "Windows Live" ones for now. I would
completely avoid the Optional Hardware updates.
Also - I do not see any urgent need to install
Internet Explorer 8 at this time.

You should now perform a full CHKDSK on your
system drive (C...

How to scan your disks for errors
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315265
* will take time and a reboot

You should now perform a full Defragment on
your system drive (C...

How to Defragment your hard drives
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314848
* will take time

- Now that your computer should be fairly clean and Windows XP should be
pretty well up to date with a fully functional Windows Update system - now
download and install the freeware version of MalwareBytes. Install it and
perform a full scan on your computer. Remove anything it finds (should find
little to nothing.) Don't have it running natively and don't worry about
running it more than once a week unless you just surf a lot of p0rn sites or
other questionable areas 'of interest'.

- Download and run the MSRT manually:
http://www.microsoft.com/security/ma...e/default.mspx

- Come back and let everyone here know more about your computer (from the
Belarc step above) and how it is running after doing all the above. You
should be using less resources for your protection, getting the same results
and worrying about it a lot less.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


  #4  
Old June 10th 10, 04:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Andrew E.
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Posts: 3,409
Default using anti-malware causing 100% usage

Youre running way to much anti-malware/spyware software.Try
picking one utility,if more than 1 runs at any given time they
only corrupt the OS,& give poor results.

"timOleary" wrote:

Seems like of I let them all run, my PC is too busy for anything else.
Just superantispyware is causing 100% CPU usage, and then the next
time I start my PC, Verizon Internet Security Suite says it has been
partially disabled and I need to click Fix it.
I do and it gets fixed.
And while starting up, the blue "Windows id starting" screen takes
several minutes to pop up the administrator icon.

So of these: Superantispyware, malwarebytes, Spybot S&D and Verizon
Internet Security Suite;
How best to used these tools daily to protect my PC while at the same
time not imapair its performance



.

  #5  
Old June 10th 10, 04:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Andrew E.
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Posts: 3,409
Default using anti-malware causing 100% usage


Youre running way to much anti-malware/spyware software.Try
picking one utility,if more than 1 runs at any given time they
only corrupt the OS,& give poor results.

"timOleary" wrote:

Seems like of I let them all run, my PC is too busy for anything else.
Just superantispyware is causing 100% CPU usage, and then the next
time I start my PC, Verizon Internet Security Suite says it has been
partially disabled and I need to click Fix it.
I do and it gets fixed.
And while starting up, the blue "Windows id starting" screen takes
several minutes to pop up the administrator icon.

So of these: Superantispyware, malwarebytes, Spybot S&D and Verizon
Internet Security Suite;
How best to used these tools daily to protect my PC while at the same
time not imapair its performance



.

  #6  
Old June 10th 10, 12:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
timOleary
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Posts: 147
Default using anti-malware causing 100% usage

On Jun 9, 11:34*pm, Andrew E. wrote:
* Youre running way to much anti-malware/spyware software.Try
*picking one utility,if more than 1 runs at any given time they
*only corrupt the OS,& give poor results.



"timOleary" wrote:
Seems like of I let them all run, my PC is too busy for anything else.
Just superantispyware is causing 100% CPU usage, and then the next
time I start my PC, Verizon Internet Security Suite says it has been
partially disabled and I need to click *Fix it.
I do and it gets fixed.
And while starting up, the blue "Windows id starting" screen takes
several minutes to pop up the administrator icon.


So of these: Superantispyware, malwarebytes, Spybot S&D *and Verizon
Internet Security Suite;
How best to used these tools daily to protect my PC while at the same
time not imapair its performance


.


thanks for the feedback. sorry to not include W XPpro SP3 (32) the
Verizon internet suite is not free, i have a three PC license and pay
monthly
got to study the steps recommended.
  #7  
Old June 10th 10, 12:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
timOleary
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 147
Default using anti-malware causing 100% usage

On Jun 9, 11:34*pm, Andrew E. wrote:
* Youre running way to much anti-malware/spyware software.Try
*picking one utility,if more than 1 runs at any given time they
*only corrupt the OS,& give poor results.



"timOleary" wrote:
Seems like of I let them all run, my PC is too busy for anything else.
Just superantispyware is causing 100% CPU usage, and then the next
time I start my PC, Verizon Internet Security Suite says it has been
partially disabled and I need to click *Fix it.
I do and it gets fixed.
And while starting up, the blue "Windows id starting" screen takes
several minutes to pop up the administrator icon.


So of these: Superantispyware, malwarebytes, Spybot S&D *and Verizon
Internet Security Suite;
How best to used these tools daily to protect my PC while at the same
time not imapair its performance


.


thanks for the feedback. sorry to not include W XPpro SP3 (32) the
Verizon internet suite is not free, i have a three PC license and pay
monthly
got to study the steps recommended.
  #8  
Old June 10th 10, 02:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Shenan Stanley
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 10,523
Default using anti-malware causing 100% usage

timOleary wrote:
thanks for the feedback. sorry to not include W XPpro SP3 (32) the
Verizon internet suite is not free, i have a three PC license and
pay monthly got to study the steps recommended.


My recommendation has not changed in knowing that you pay (if nothing else -
it's a better deal - use less resources and pay for nothing but get the same
level of protection if not better and end up with a better performing
machine.)

Since you did not respond directly to me - but someone else - I will repost
the steps I suggested with what I know about your system now - here...

- Uninstall SuperAntiSpyware, SpyBot Search and Destroy, MalwareBytes and
any other 3rd party protection software/suite you have installed. Reboot.

- Uninstall the antivirus package (suite, etc) that your ISP sells you.
Dump
it all. Remove it completely. Don't look back. Yes - do this. Reboot.

- Immediately download and _install_ Avira AntiVir:
http://www.free-av.de/en/trialpay_do...antivirus.html
(Download Now, left side.) Reboot afterwards, update Avira as necessary,
let it do a full scan on your computer. Reboot after it is done.

- Download and install Belarc Advisor (free -
http://belarc.com/Programs/advisor.exe) and let it run on your computer.
Print out the results and save them with your external backups, copies of
your software, product keys and other important computer backup/information
that you keep away from your computer 'just in case' things go wrong. Come
back here and let people know more about your computer - in particular what
processor you have, how much memory you have and how much "C:\" drive space
you have (free and total.)

- Ensure your Windows XP Firewall is enabled and at this point - *no
exceptions* are allowed. Simple instructions he
http://www.free-firewall.org/windows-xp-firewall.asp (Go there, follow the
instructions to get to the screenshotted stuff and check the box for "Don't
allow exceptions" on yours.)

- Cleanup your Windows XP system and make sure you have the latest/best
Windows Update components possible by following these steps:

Fix your file/registry permissions...

Ignore the title and follow the sub-section under
"Advanced Troubleshooting" titled,
"Method 1: Reset the registry and the file permissions"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949377
*will take time
** Ignore the last step - you said you have SP3 already.

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Download/install this:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301

After installing, do the following:

Start button -- RUN -- type in:
"%ProgramFiles%\Windows Installer Clean Up\msizap.exe" g!
-- Click OK.
(The quotation marks and percentage signs and spacing
should be exact.)

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Download/Install the latest Windows Installer (for your OS):
( Windows XP 32-bit : WindowsXP-KB942288-v3-x86.exe )
http://www.microsoft.com/downloadS/d...displaylang=en

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Download the latest version of the Windows Update
agent from here (x86):
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=91237
... and save it to the root of your C:\ drive. After saving
it to the root of the C:\ drive, do the following:

Close all Internet Explorer windows and other
applications.

Start button -- RUN and type in:
%SystemDrive%\windowsupdateagent30-x86.exe /WUFORCE
-- Click OK.

(If asked, select "Run.) -- Click on NEXT --
Select "I agree" and click on NEXT -- When it
finishes installing, click on "Finish"...

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Visit this web page:

How do I reset Windows Update components?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058

... and click on the "Microsoft Fix it" icon. When asked,
select "RUN", both times. Check the "I agree" box and
click on "Next". Check the box for "Run aggressive
options (not recommended)" and click "Next". Let it
finish up and follow the prompts until it is done.
Close/exit.

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and select
to do a CUSTOM scan...

Every time you are about to click on something while
at these web pages - first press and hold down the
CTRL key while you click on it. You can release the
CTRL key after clicking each time.

Once the scan is done, select just _ONE_ of the high
priority updates (deselect any others) and install it.

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

If it did work - try the web page again - selecting no
more than 3-5 at a time. Rebooting as needed.

The Optional Software updates are generally safe
- although I recommend against the
"Windows Search" one and any of the "Office Live"
ones or "Windows Live" ones for now. I would
completely avoid the Optional Hardware updates.
Also - I do not see any urgent need to install
Internet Explorer 8 at this time.

You should now perform a full CHKDSK on your
system drive (C...

How to scan your disks for errors
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315265
* will take time and a reboot

You should now perform a full Defragment on
your system drive (C...

How to Defragment your hard drives
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314848
* will take time

- Now that your computer should be fairly clean and Windows XP should be
pretty well up to date with a fully functional Windows Update system - now
download and install the freeware version of MalwareBytes. Install it and
perform a full scan on your computer. Remove anything it finds (should find
little to nothing.) Don't have it running natively and don't worry about
running it more than once a week unless you just surf a lot of p0rn sites or
other questionable areas 'of interest'.

- Download and run the MSRT manually:
http://www.microsoft.com/security/ma...e/default.mspx

- Come back and let everyone here know more about your computer (from the
Belarc step above) and how it is running after doing all the above. You
should be using less resources for your protection, getting the same results
and worrying about it a lot less.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


  #9  
Old June 10th 10, 02:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Shenan Stanley
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 10,523
Default using anti-malware causing 100% usage

timOleary wrote:
thanks for the feedback. sorry to not include W XPpro SP3 (32) the
Verizon internet suite is not free, i have a three PC license and
pay monthly got to study the steps recommended.


My recommendation has not changed in knowing that you pay (if nothing else -
it's a better deal - use less resources and pay for nothing but get the same
level of protection if not better and end up with a better performing
machine.)

Since you did not respond directly to me - but someone else - I will repost
the steps I suggested with what I know about your system now - here...

- Uninstall SuperAntiSpyware, SpyBot Search and Destroy, MalwareBytes and
any other 3rd party protection software/suite you have installed. Reboot.

- Uninstall the antivirus package (suite, etc) that your ISP sells you.
Dump
it all. Remove it completely. Don't look back. Yes - do this. Reboot.

- Immediately download and _install_ Avira AntiVir:
http://www.free-av.de/en/trialpay_do...antivirus.html
(Download Now, left side.) Reboot afterwards, update Avira as necessary,
let it do a full scan on your computer. Reboot after it is done.

- Download and install Belarc Advisor (free -
http://belarc.com/Programs/advisor.exe) and let it run on your computer.
Print out the results and save them with your external backups, copies of
your software, product keys and other important computer backup/information
that you keep away from your computer 'just in case' things go wrong. Come
back here and let people know more about your computer - in particular what
processor you have, how much memory you have and how much "C:\" drive space
you have (free and total.)

- Ensure your Windows XP Firewall is enabled and at this point - *no
exceptions* are allowed. Simple instructions he
http://www.free-firewall.org/windows-xp-firewall.asp (Go there, follow the
instructions to get to the screenshotted stuff and check the box for "Don't
allow exceptions" on yours.)

- Cleanup your Windows XP system and make sure you have the latest/best
Windows Update components possible by following these steps:

Fix your file/registry permissions...

Ignore the title and follow the sub-section under
"Advanced Troubleshooting" titled,
"Method 1: Reset the registry and the file permissions"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949377
*will take time
** Ignore the last step - you said you have SP3 already.

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Download/install this:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301

After installing, do the following:

Start button -- RUN -- type in:
"%ProgramFiles%\Windows Installer Clean Up\msizap.exe" g!
-- Click OK.
(The quotation marks and percentage signs and spacing
should be exact.)

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Download/Install the latest Windows Installer (for your OS):
( Windows XP 32-bit : WindowsXP-KB942288-v3-x86.exe )
http://www.microsoft.com/downloadS/d...displaylang=en

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Download the latest version of the Windows Update
agent from here (x86):
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=91237
... and save it to the root of your C:\ drive. After saving
it to the root of the C:\ drive, do the following:

Close all Internet Explorer windows and other
applications.

Start button -- RUN and type in:
%SystemDrive%\windowsupdateagent30-x86.exe /WUFORCE
-- Click OK.

(If asked, select "Run.) -- Click on NEXT --
Select "I agree" and click on NEXT -- When it
finishes installing, click on "Finish"...

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Visit this web page:

How do I reset Windows Update components?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058

... and click on the "Microsoft Fix it" icon. When asked,
select "RUN", both times. Check the "I agree" box and
click on "Next". Check the box for "Run aggressive
options (not recommended)" and click "Next". Let it
finish up and follow the prompts until it is done.
Close/exit.

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

Visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and select
to do a CUSTOM scan...

Every time you are about to click on something while
at these web pages - first press and hold down the
CTRL key while you click on it. You can release the
CTRL key after clicking each time.

Once the scan is done, select just _ONE_ of the high
priority updates (deselect any others) and install it.

Reboot and logon as administrative user.

If it did work - try the web page again - selecting no
more than 3-5 at a time. Rebooting as needed.

The Optional Software updates are generally safe
- although I recommend against the
"Windows Search" one and any of the "Office Live"
ones or "Windows Live" ones for now. I would
completely avoid the Optional Hardware updates.
Also - I do not see any urgent need to install
Internet Explorer 8 at this time.

You should now perform a full CHKDSK on your
system drive (C...

How to scan your disks for errors
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315265
* will take time and a reboot

You should now perform a full Defragment on
your system drive (C...

How to Defragment your hard drives
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314848
* will take time

- Now that your computer should be fairly clean and Windows XP should be
pretty well up to date with a fully functional Windows Update system - now
download and install the freeware version of MalwareBytes. Install it and
perform a full scan on your computer. Remove anything it finds (should find
little to nothing.) Don't have it running natively and don't worry about
running it more than once a week unless you just surf a lot of p0rn sites or
other questionable areas 'of interest'.

- Download and run the MSRT manually:
http://www.microsoft.com/security/ma...e/default.mspx

- Come back and let everyone here know more about your computer (from the
Belarc step above) and how it is running after doing all the above. You
should be using less resources for your protection, getting the same results
and worrying about it a lot less.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


  #10  
Old June 10th 10, 03:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
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As usual , AndrewE is talking from his a** .




On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:23:01 -0700 (PDT), timOleary
wrote:

On Jun 9, 11:34*pm, Andrew E. wrote:
* Youre running way to much anti-malware/spyware software.Try
*picking one utility,if more than 1 runs at any given time they
*only corrupt the OS,& give poor results.



"timOleary" wrote:
Seems like of I let them all run, my PC is too busy for anything else.
Just superantispyware is causing 100% CPU usage, and then the next
time I start my PC, Verizon Internet Security Suite says it has been
partially disabled and I need to click *Fix it.
I do and it gets fixed.
And while starting up, the blue "Windows id starting" screen takes
several minutes to pop up the administrator icon.


So of these: Superantispyware, malwarebytes, Spybot S&D *and Verizon
Internet Security Suite;
How best to used these tools daily to protect my PC while at the same
time not imapair its performance


.


thanks for the feedback. sorry to not include W XPpro SP3 (32) the
Verizon internet suite is not free, i have a three PC license and pay
monthly
got to study the steps recommended.

  #11  
Old June 10th 10, 03:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Jim[_45_]
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As usual , AndrewE is talking from his a** .




On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:23:01 -0700 (PDT), timOleary
wrote:

On Jun 9, 11:34*pm, Andrew E. wrote:
* Youre running way to much anti-malware/spyware software.Try
*picking one utility,if more than 1 runs at any given time they
*only corrupt the OS,& give poor results.



"timOleary" wrote:
Seems like of I let them all run, my PC is too busy for anything else.
Just superantispyware is causing 100% CPU usage, and then the next
time I start my PC, Verizon Internet Security Suite says it has been
partially disabled and I need to click *Fix it.
I do and it gets fixed.
And while starting up, the blue "Windows id starting" screen takes
several minutes to pop up the administrator icon.


So of these: Superantispyware, malwarebytes, Spybot S&D *and Verizon
Internet Security Suite;
How best to used these tools daily to protect my PC while at the same
time not imapair its performance


.


thanks for the feedback. sorry to not include W XPpro SP3 (32) the
Verizon internet suite is not free, i have a three PC license and pay
monthly
got to study the steps recommended.

  #12  
Old June 11th 10, 05:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
timOleary
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On Jun 10, 10:20*am, Jim wrote:
As usual , AndrewE is talking from his a** .

On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:23:01 -0700 (PDT), timOleary



wrote:
On Jun 9, 11:34*pm, Andrew E. wrote:
* Youre running way to much anti-malware/spyware software.Try
*picking one utility,if more than 1 runs at any given time they
*only corrupt the OS,& give poor results.


"timOleary" wrote:
Seems like of I let them all run, my PC is too busy for anything else.
Just superantispyware is causing 100% CPU usage, and then the next
time I start my PC, Verizon Internet Security Suite says it has been
partially disabled and I need to click *Fix it.
I do and it gets fixed.
And while starting up, the blue "Windows id starting" screen takes
several minutes to pop up the administrator icon.


So of these: Superantispyware, malwarebytes, Spybot S&D *and Verizon
Internet Security Suite;
How best to used these tools daily to protect my PC while at the same
time not imapair its performance


.


thanks for the feedback. sorry to not include W XPpro SP3 (32) the
Verizon internet suite is not free, i have a three PC license and pay
monthly
got to study the steps recommended.


I'm responding to the topic, not a particular poster. No offense
intended.
  #13  
Old June 11th 10, 05:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
timOleary
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Posts: 147
Default using anti-malware causing 100% usage

On Jun 10, 10:20*am, Jim wrote:
As usual , AndrewE is talking from his a** .

On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:23:01 -0700 (PDT), timOleary



wrote:
On Jun 9, 11:34*pm, Andrew E. wrote:
* Youre running way to much anti-malware/spyware software.Try
*picking one utility,if more than 1 runs at any given time they
*only corrupt the OS,& give poor results.


"timOleary" wrote:
Seems like of I let them all run, my PC is too busy for anything else.
Just superantispyware is causing 100% CPU usage, and then the next
time I start my PC, Verizon Internet Security Suite says it has been
partially disabled and I need to click *Fix it.
I do and it gets fixed.
And while starting up, the blue "Windows id starting" screen takes
several minutes to pop up the administrator icon.


So of these: Superantispyware, malwarebytes, Spybot S&D *and Verizon
Internet Security Suite;
How best to used these tools daily to protect my PC while at the same
time not imapair its performance


.


thanks for the feedback. sorry to not include W XPpro SP3 (32) the
Verizon internet suite is not free, i have a three PC license and pay
monthly
got to study the steps recommended.


I'm responding to the topic, not a particular poster. No offense
intended.
  #14  
Old June 12th 10, 04:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
timOleary
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On Jun 12, 3:47*am, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:21:29 -0700 (PDT), timOleary

wrote:
I'm responding to the topic, not a particular poster. No offense
intended.


Your ISP must not have much faith in their services if they want you
to run all that crap. *It's really THEM who is supposed to be running
antivirus software to protect everyone. *It looks like you use
Verizon. *I'll be sure to never use them.

When I signed up for my ISP they sent me a CD filled with garbage,
toolbars, and their own homepage. *I dont want any of that ****. *I
just want a connection to the net and nothing more. *They also sent me
a copy of Norton AV, and told me I had a 30 day free trial, and after
that I'd be charged $10 a month to use it. *Yea Right..... *I can buy
it for about $40 at Walmart and never pay again. *What a ****ing
ripoff. *I called them the next day and told them to either cancel the
Norton AV, or cancel my service completely. *They tried real hard to
convince me how badly I needed it. *Thats when I asked them if their
whole system is full of viruses. *That shut them up, and they
cancelled it. *I told them I would require an email to prove it was
cancelled, which they did send me. *That way if they tried to charge
me for it, I have proof I cancelled it. *

You only need ONE AV software, I am not going to recommend one because
I am currently using Win98. *My XP computer has one that you can get
from Microsoft for free. *(I cant recall the name of it). *It was
installed when I bought the computer. *I disabled it, but did not
uninstall it. *I dont need it, because I do not connect the XP
computer to the internet at all, but once an awhile I will scan
downloaded stuff with it. *I only use the Win98 puter online. *I have
no AV software at all on the Win98 puter. *I have "Spybot" and "Hijack
This". *I run both of them manually every couple weeks. *Win98 is not
really attacked by viruses anymore. *Just spyware ****.



Hi Jus, et all

Verizon said they had a security suite which could be billed along
with the DSL, and would automatically update virus definitions.
At that point in time (a few years ago?), the deal was to go to Best
Buy (for example) and purchase a AV CD then need to buy for
subscriptions for updates after a year.
pay for each computer.

The Verizon suite was competitive with that alternative, so we signed
up.
We have two, sometimes three PCs
They (Verizon) have improved this product over the years and it i now
a McAfee engine.
I cannot complain about the DSL because it is the only service
available in my market, and it meets my needs.

They (Verizon) never suggested that I run all this other crap, but a
few episodes with malware on other PCs prompted me to obtain
Superantispyware.

Maybe the market has changed and anti-virus is something that I no
longer need to pay for.
I'm old school and am suspicious of "free stuff"
I use Google, but live with popups and don't care if they are
keylogging me.
Chrome and Gmail, youtube etc all work great for me.

me no like Bill Gates

I just don't know the right formula, and the responses on this thread
are not clearing it up for me!

That's why I posted in the first place, to figure out what to use.

Right now i have disabled everything but Verizon Security Suite so my
PC doesn't stall out.
I'm disabling some of the weird stuff in my processes folder and
seeing what happens.

Superantispyware Techsupport says to remove and reinstall their
software to prevent the overload issue.

I'll try that next and I am open for further comment and discussion

Thanks!
 




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