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  #16  
Old May 20th 04, 05:34 PM
Unknown
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Default What everyone needs to know

And so, before anyone buys a computer they must go to the library and read.
The world doesn't work that way.
"kurttrail" wrote in message
...
Unknown wrote:

"kurttrail" wrote in
message ...
Unknown wrote:

How can people read this before they put their computers on the
network?

At the local library. Or for someone considering buying a new
computer. Or for someone reinstalling after XP goes belly up on
them. From their computer at work. From a friend's PC . . . .

Did you??


Yes, I have read posts from this group at different public libraries. Also
from work, and friend's and family member's PCs. This OP I read from my
computer, but I already know how to protect my computer from the all the
MicroHoles. This group are filled with people stopping by that may not
realize that something running in the background that they never need may be
making their computers less secure.

--
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  #17  
Old May 20th 04, 05:54 PM
kurttrail
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Unknown wrote:

"kurttrail" wrote in
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The ramblings of a lunatic include those people who say MS has for
decades neglected to produce secure code.


They haven't? All the available evidence would suggest differently.
MS's push for more secure code only began a few years ago. And some
of their moves since have been more than a little suspect. Holding
up the Address bar patch to roll it up in a bigger patch. MS did
the same thing in April, holding up patches to roll them together.
It's only a matter of time before a Windows vulnerability gets
leaked before MS releases a patch.

Holding up patching holes is negligent in my book.

I find that people that
make those kinds of statments have never written a single line of
code. Amazing!


I find it amazing that a person that gives their name as "Unknown,"
would think anyone would take a word they say seriously.


Geeeeeze! You don't know anything about business management either.


Making decisions based solely on profit margin, instead of doing what's
right.

Yeah, I know MS's business management theory. Luckily, not all businesses
are run so devoid of ethics.

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Peace!
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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
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  #18  
Old May 20th 04, 05:54 PM
Ralf Baumhoefer
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But most important: Set your system clock !

"Tracker" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
If your computer is a on a Windows Platform you need to disable the
Services that Windows leaves opens, for starters. Most home users
aren't using a Virtual Private Network, Mail Server, FTP Server, TCP
Server and so on. You also need to install a Firewall, whether it be
software or hardware oriented ONLY before you put your computer on the
Internet. Trojan Horses disable anti-virus and firewalls. An
anti-virus application will secure your computer to "some" degree, but
NOT unless you can secure your e-mail, browser and internet settings and

applications. Without the above security, the malicious hackers are
already abusing your computers to take down Networks, Servers, trade
drugs, guns, bo*bs, and so on.
This is only a small list of areas which deal with security, malware,
backdoors, trojan horses and more.

Tracker






  #19  
Old May 21st 04, 05:01 AM
kurttrail
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Unknown wrote:

"kurttrail" wrote in
message ...
Unknown wrote:

"kurttrail" wrote in
message ...
Unknown wrote:

How can people read this before they put their computers on the
network?

At the local library. Or for someone considering buying a new
computer. Or for someone reinstalling after XP goes belly up on
them. From their computer at work. From a friend's PC . . . .

Did you??


Yes, I have read posts from this group at different public
libraries. Also from work, and friend's and family member's PCs.
This OP I read from my computer, but I already know how to protect
my computer from the all the MicroHoles. This group are filled with
people stopping by that may not realize that something running in
the background that they never need may be making their computers
less secure.


And so, before anyone buys a computer they must go to the library and
read. The world doesn't work that way.


Who said anything about "must?" You. Who limited this to people that are
buying new computers? You.

People should turn-off sh*t that they really don't need or ever use.
Whether it's when they first get there computer, after doing a clean
install, after cleaning up after being plagued with viruses, worms, spyware,
or whatever and whenever.

I'd want to be "Unknown" too, if I had your lack reasoning ability, or are
you just being purposefully dense?

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"


  #20  
Old May 21st 04, 05:01 AM
kurttrail
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Default What everyone needs to know

Unknown wrote:

"kurttrail" wrote in
message ...
Unknown wrote:

"kurttrail" wrote in
message ...
Unknown wrote:

How can people read this before they put their computers on the
network?

At the local library. Or for someone considering buying a new
computer. Or for someone reinstalling after XP goes belly up on
them. From their computer at work. From a friend's PC . . . .

Did you??


Yes, I have read posts from this group at different public
libraries. Also from work, and friend's and family member's PCs.
This OP I read from my computer, but I already know how to protect
my computer from the all the MicroHoles. This group are filled with
people stopping by that may not realize that something running in
the background that they never need may be making their computers
less secure.


And so, before anyone buys a computer they must go to the library and
read. The world doesn't work that way.


Who said anything about "must?" You. Who limited this to people that are
buying new computers? You.

People should turn-off sh*t that they really don't need or ever use.
Whether it's when they first get there computer, after doing a clean
install, after cleaning up after being plagued with viruses, worms, spyware,
or whatever and whenever.

I'd want to be "Unknown" too, if I had your lack reasoning ability, or are
you just being purposefully dense?

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"


  #21  
Old May 21st 04, 05:01 AM
kurttrail
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Ralf Baumhoefer wrote:

But most important: Set your system clock !


Wow! I can't believe it took this long before some anal schmuck brought
that up! LOL!

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"


  #22  
Old May 21st 04, 05:01 AM
kurttrail
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Default What everyone needs to know

Ralf Baumhoefer wrote:

But most important: Set your system clock !


Wow! I can't believe it took this long before some anal schmuck brought
that up! LOL!

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"


  #23  
Old May 21st 04, 05:04 AM
Joh N.
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Unknown, after spending 3 minutes figuring out which end of the pen to use,
wrote:

The ramblings of a lunatic include those people who say MS has for decades
neglected to produce secure code. I find that people that make those kinds of
statments have never written a single line of code. Amazing!


Oh, you mean every programmers first code of 'Hello world'? You're right...M$
should only do that, since even that should not be able to get ****ed up by
them.

Joh N.
--
Linux 2.4.20-4GB-athlon
12:01pm up 3 days 7:19, 2 users, load average: 0.05, 0.04, 0.00

  #24  
Old May 21st 04, 05:04 AM
Joh N.
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Default What everyone needs to know

Unknown, after spending 3 minutes figuring out which end of the pen to use,
wrote:

The ramblings of a lunatic include those people who say MS has for decades
neglected to produce secure code. I find that people that make those kinds of
statments have never written a single line of code. Amazing!


Oh, you mean every programmers first code of 'Hello world'? You're right...M$
should only do that, since even that should not be able to get ****ed up by
them.

Joh N.
--
Linux 2.4.20-4GB-athlon
12:01pm up 3 days 7:19, 2 users, load average: 0.05, 0.04, 0.00

  #25  
Old May 21st 04, 05:06 AM
hermes
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Before the MVP (M$ Victim Poster) Hermes responded, kurttrail typed:
Unknown wrote:

"kurttrail" wrote in
message ...
Unknown wrote:

"kurttrail" wrote in
message ...
Unknown wrote:

How can people read this before they put their computers on the
network?

At the local library. Or for someone considering buying a new
computer. Or for someone reinstalling after XP goes belly up on
them. From their computer at work. From a friend's PC . . . .

Did you??

Yes, I have read posts from this group at different public
libraries. Also from work, and friend's and family member's PCs.
This OP I read from my computer, but I already know how to protect
my computer from the all the MicroHoles. This group are filled with
people stopping by that may not realize that something running in
the background that they never need may be making their computers
less secure.


And so, before anyone buys a computer they must go to the library and
read. The world doesn't work that way.


Who said anything about "must?" You. Who limited this to people
that are buying new computers? You.

People should turn-off sh*t that they really don't need or ever use.
Whether it's when they first get there computer, after doing a clean
install, after cleaning up after being plagued with viruses, worms,
spyware, or whatever and whenever.

I'd want to be "Unknown" too, if I had your lack reasoning ability,
or are you just being purposefully dense?


This "Unknown" is unknown until you look at his headers! ROFL

--
hermes
DRM sux! Treacherous Computing kills our virtual civil liberties!
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html

Windows XP crashed.
I am the Blue Screen of Death.
No one hears your screams.

Yesterday it worked.
Today it is not working.
Windows is like that.


  #26  
Old May 21st 04, 05:06 AM
hermes
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Before the MVP (M$ Victim Poster) Hermes responded, kurttrail typed:
Unknown wrote:

"kurttrail" wrote in
message ...
Unknown wrote:

"kurttrail" wrote in
message ...
Unknown wrote:

How can people read this before they put their computers on the
network?

At the local library. Or for someone considering buying a new
computer. Or for someone reinstalling after XP goes belly up on
them. From their computer at work. From a friend's PC . . . .

Did you??

Yes, I have read posts from this group at different public
libraries. Also from work, and friend's and family member's PCs.
This OP I read from my computer, but I already know how to protect
my computer from the all the MicroHoles. This group are filled with
people stopping by that may not realize that something running in
the background that they never need may be making their computers
less secure.


And so, before anyone buys a computer they must go to the library and
read. The world doesn't work that way.


Who said anything about "must?" You. Who limited this to people
that are buying new computers? You.

People should turn-off sh*t that they really don't need or ever use.
Whether it's when they first get there computer, after doing a clean
install, after cleaning up after being plagued with viruses, worms,
spyware, or whatever and whenever.

I'd want to be "Unknown" too, if I had your lack reasoning ability,
or are you just being purposefully dense?


This "Unknown" is unknown until you look at his headers! ROFL

--
hermes
DRM sux! Treacherous Computing kills our virtual civil liberties!
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html

Windows XP crashed.
I am the Blue Screen of Death.
No one hears your screams.

Yesterday it worked.
Today it is not working.
Windows is like that.


  #27  
Old May 21st 04, 05:10 AM
Joh N.
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Default What everyone needs to know

Unknown, after spending 3 minutes figuring out which end of the pen to use,
wrote:

Geeeeeze! You don't know anything about business management either.


That's right! Damn, Kurt, you should know better that M$ will purposefully
make dodgy code so that it can be cracked to the ass and make its users *buy*
it all over again when they (M$) come out with the latest and greatest virus
attractant! What's the matter with you!

Joh N.
--
Linux 2.4.20-4GB-athlon
12:03pm up 3 days 7:20, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.03, 0.00

  #28  
Old May 21st 04, 05:10 AM
Joh N.
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Posts: n/a
Default What everyone needs to know

Unknown, after spending 3 minutes figuring out which end of the pen to use,
wrote:

Geeeeeze! You don't know anything about business management either.


That's right! Damn, Kurt, you should know better that M$ will purposefully
make dodgy code so that it can be cracked to the ass and make its users *buy*
it all over again when they (M$) come out with the latest and greatest virus
attractant! What's the matter with you!

Joh N.
--
Linux 2.4.20-4GB-athlon
12:03pm up 3 days 7:20, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.03, 0.00

  #29  
Old May 21st 04, 05:11 AM
Joh N.
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Default What everyone needs to know

Stephen, after spending 3 minutes figuring out which end of the pen to use,
wrote:

"Tracker" wrote in message
...
| If your computer is a on a Windows Platform you need to disable the
| Services that Windows leaves opens, for starters. Most home users
| aren't using a Virtual Private Network, Mail Server, FTP Server, TCP
| Server and so on. You also need to install a Firewall, whether it be
| software or hardware oriented ONLY before you put your computer on the
| Internet. Trojan Horses disable anti-virus and firewalls. An
| anti-virus application will secure your computer to "some" degree, but
| NOT unless you can secure your e-mail, browser and internet settings and
|
| applications. Without the above security, the malicious hackers are
| already abusing your computers to take down Networks, Servers, trade
| drugs, guns, bo*bs, and so on.
| This is only a small list of areas which deal with security, malware,
| backdoors, trojan horses and more.
|
| Tracker
|
|
|
|

If one thinks about it too much it's a nightmare. Don't install everything
that is available, rather only stuff from reputible companies - and don't
even trust some of them too much.


You mean like WMP? LOL!

I've heard there's a company selling cheap
printers and its CD-ROM installs spyware/adware along with the printer
drivers.


I've *seen* HP install the same spyware when installing their printers.


Naturally, surf with scripting off as default, and keep your system patched.
Run and AV program too. Some guys insist on a firewall of somesort so they
can watch the goings on.


It's about the best advice anyone can give. A firewall is/should be a
necessity.

Joh N.
--
Linux 2.4.20-4GB-athlon
12:08pm up 3 days 7:25, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00

  #30  
Old May 21st 04, 05:11 AM
Joh N.
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Posts: n/a
Default What everyone needs to know

Stephen, after spending 3 minutes figuring out which end of the pen to use,
wrote:

"Tracker" wrote in message
...
| If your computer is a on a Windows Platform you need to disable the
| Services that Windows leaves opens, for starters. Most home users
| aren't using a Virtual Private Network, Mail Server, FTP Server, TCP
| Server and so on. You also need to install a Firewall, whether it be
| software or hardware oriented ONLY before you put your computer on the
| Internet. Trojan Horses disable anti-virus and firewalls. An
| anti-virus application will secure your computer to "some" degree, but
| NOT unless you can secure your e-mail, browser and internet settings and
|
| applications. Without the above security, the malicious hackers are
| already abusing your computers to take down Networks, Servers, trade
| drugs, guns, bo*bs, and so on.
| This is only a small list of areas which deal with security, malware,
| backdoors, trojan horses and more.
|
| Tracker
|
|
|
|

If one thinks about it too much it's a nightmare. Don't install everything
that is available, rather only stuff from reputible companies - and don't
even trust some of them too much.


You mean like WMP? LOL!

I've heard there's a company selling cheap
printers and its CD-ROM installs spyware/adware along with the printer
drivers.


I've *seen* HP install the same spyware when installing their printers.


Naturally, surf with scripting off as default, and keep your system patched.
Run and AV program too. Some guys insist on a firewall of somesort so they
can watch the goings on.


It's about the best advice anyone can give. A firewall is/should be a
necessity.

Joh N.
--
Linux 2.4.20-4GB-athlon
12:08pm up 3 days 7:25, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00

 




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