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Joined OE Newsgroup but deleted husband's mail
NoNoBadDog! wrote:
Paula; As many have told you...adding a newsgroup does NOT delete anything and does NOT empty the trash. When OE does housecleaning, it compresses your folders and moves old files to the deleted items folder, Wrong. It doesn't do this either. OE only moves items to the deleted items folder when YOU tell it to. When OE compacts (preferably manually, whilst offline) it just removes wasted space, rather like defragging your hard drive, and makes this space available again for use. but does NOT delete the files from that folder. If your husband was silly enough to store his emails in the Deleted Items folder, and YOU emptied that folder, then the files are gone. A normal person would not store his emails in the deleted items folder. Bobby "paula" wrote in message ... OK I made a new folder for storing mail. And no I didn't delete anything..what to learn is that OE dumps the "deleted items folder" as part of its add newsgroup program..it does take out the trash an MS tech told me. Thank you for helping..and I got some fantastic news about going to windows\application data\Identities\Outlook Express folder and some other ideas as well under the responses... "Jone Doe" wrote: "paula" wrote in message ... I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express Newsgroup (add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box and now everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder where he was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean Install" ..no one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way to retrieve anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points unsuccessful. thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in trouble! Yes indeed you are in trouble. Setting up a newsgroup merely adds a newsgroup to the list. It does not do a clean install, or any kind of install. It merely adds a newsgroup. Not one mentioned it for just that reason, it doesn't happen. Therefore, you must have done something, like perhaps the click the very handy button to delete mail out of the deleted mail folder. If you want to store email, make a new folder with a name like, perhaps "Stored mail" to store it in. Why did you think they called it "Deleted items.dbx"? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.722 / Virus Database: 478 - Release Date: 7/18/2004 -- Kath Adams MS MVP - Windows (IE/OE) |
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Joined OE Newsgroup but deleted husband's mail
For the 84th time for the benefit of all who are reading this
thread...adding a group or account to OE DOES NOT empty the trash. Paula desperately wnats to blame MS on this, but it simply does not happen. To those of you who may be new and reading this thread, please be aware that what Paula states is not true. Bobby "paula" wrote in message ... Thank You will try..Installing a newsgroup dumps the deleted items folder! Jon good idea..will try to go through Comcast.net You are Heroic! paula "Jon" wrote: Couple of things to try (1) Check that you're checking the right "Deleted Items" folder. You may have more than one in your list of folders. (2) If you can also access your email via the web ie by logging on to the relevant website (eg hotmail.com for a hotmail account etc) then try accessing the mail account in that way, to see what you may be able to retrieve Jon wrote in message ... I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express Newsgroup (add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box and now everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder where he was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean Install" ..no one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way to retrieve anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points unsuccessful. thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in trouble! |
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Joined OE Newsgroup but deleted husband's mail
"paula" wrote in message ... Well a technician said that adding a newsgroup does (OE) dump the deleted items folder..and does so on a regular basis as it loads mail I'd find a new tech who knows what he is talking about. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.723 / Virus Database: 479 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 |
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paula wrote:
Thank You will try..Installing a newsgroup dumps the deleted items folder! Jon good idea..will try to go through Comcast.net You are Heroic! paula "Jon" wrote: Couple of things to try (1) Check that you're checking the right "Deleted Items" folder. You may have more than one in your list of folders. (2) If you can also access your email via the web ie by logging on to the relevant website (eg hotmail.com for a hotmail account etc) then try accessing the mail account in that way, to see what you may be able to retrieve Jon wrote in message ... I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express Newsgroup (add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box and now everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder where he was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean Install" ..no one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way to retrieve anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points unsuccessful. thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in trouble! OK Paula, as everyone else has already said, OE does *not* dump anything just by subscribing to a newsgroup. Hopefully, all may not be lost. Follow these instructions carefully :- Open OE, go to toolsoptionsmaintenancestore folder and note the location that OE is storing the folders. Close OE. In Control Panelfolder optionsview, make sure there is a tick in "Show hidden files and folders". In Windows Explorer, nagivate to the place you noted down in step one. MOVE deleted items.dbx to a safe place on your PC, ideally the desktop. (OE will create a new deleted items folder when you next re-start it. But don't worry about this for the moment.) Download ($5) and install the following program. Use it on the deleted items folder that you moved to see if you can get your messages back. http://www.oehelp.com/DBXtract/Default.aspx (No guarantees, depending on your OE settings). Some useful maintenance tips. Do NOT store mail that you want to keep in any of the default mail folders of OE. Move them to folders created by you under Local Folders. Disable "compact in the background" and do this manually, frequently, whilst offline. Also, make regular backups of all your mail folders for just such an eventuality. Link to a program that will do this automatically and free for you. http://www.oehelp.com/oebackup/default.aspx -- Kath Adams MS MVP - Windows (IE/OE) |
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Joined OE Newsgroup but deleted husband's mail
Paula;
1. Your tech is full of it. Fire him and spend your money with a tech who knows what he is talking about. 2. I have used OE and Outlook for years. Adding newsgroups does NOT delete anything. let me repeat that...adding newsgroups does NOT delete anything. 3. If you lost your husbands emails, it is because YOU did something to delete them. Besides, only an idiot would store his files in the deleted items folder. 4. Perhaps you are not quite ready to be using OE and outlook. I would sugest a visit to your local bookstore or library. There are many books out there written in simple language on how to use your computer and apps like OE and Outlook. I suggest you do some reading. Bobby "paula" wrote in message ... I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express Newsgroup (add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box and now everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder where he was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean Install" ..no one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way to retrieve anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points unsuccessful. thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in trouble! |
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NoNoBadDog! wrote:
Paula; As many have told you...adding a newsgroup does NOT delete anything and does NOT empty the trash. When OE does housecleaning, it compresses your folders and moves old files to the deleted items folder, Wrong. It doesn't do this either. OE only moves items to the deleted items folder when YOU tell it to. When OE compacts (preferably manually, whilst offline) it just removes wasted space, rather like defragging your hard drive, and makes this space available again for use. but does NOT delete the files from that folder. If your husband was silly enough to store his emails in the Deleted Items folder, and YOU emptied that folder, then the files are gone. A normal person would not store his emails in the deleted items folder. Bobby "paula" wrote in message ... OK I made a new folder for storing mail. And no I didn't delete anything..what to learn is that OE dumps the "deleted items folder" as part of its add newsgroup program..it does take out the trash an MS tech told me. Thank you for helping..and I got some fantastic news about going to windows\application data\Identities\Outlook Express folder and some other ideas as well under the responses... "Jone Doe" wrote: "paula" wrote in message ... I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express Newsgroup (add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box and now everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder where he was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean Install" ..no one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way to retrieve anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points unsuccessful. thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in trouble! Yes indeed you are in trouble. Setting up a newsgroup merely adds a newsgroup to the list. It does not do a clean install, or any kind of install. It merely adds a newsgroup. Not one mentioned it for just that reason, it doesn't happen. Therefore, you must have done something, like perhaps the click the very handy button to delete mail out of the deleted mail folder. If you want to store email, make a new folder with a name like, perhaps "Stored mail" to store it in. Why did you think they called it "Deleted items.dbx"? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.722 / Virus Database: 478 - Release Date: 7/18/2004 -- Kath Adams MS MVP - Windows (IE/OE) |
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Joined OE Newsgroup but deleted husband's mail
For the 84th time for the benefit of all who are reading this
thread...adding a group or account to OE DOES NOT empty the trash. Paula desperately wnats to blame MS on this, but it simply does not happen. To those of you who may be new and reading this thread, please be aware that what Paula states is not true. Bobby "paula" wrote in message ... Thank You will try..Installing a newsgroup dumps the deleted items folder! Jon good idea..will try to go through Comcast.net You are Heroic! paula "Jon" wrote: Couple of things to try (1) Check that you're checking the right "Deleted Items" folder. You may have more than one in your list of folders. (2) If you can also access your email via the web ie by logging on to the relevant website (eg hotmail.com for a hotmail account etc) then try accessing the mail account in that way, to see what you may be able to retrieve Jon wrote in message ... I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express Newsgroup (add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box and now everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder where he was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean Install" ..no one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way to retrieve anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points unsuccessful. thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in trouble! |
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Yes, you are right. I was incorrect. But my intention was to state that OE
and Outlook do NOT delete files with normal maintenance unless the user makes it happen. I know the OP so very desperately wants to blame this on MS, but she is wrong. I just wanted other new people reading this thread to understand that the OP is making statements that are not true. Bobby "Kath Adams" wrote in message ... NoNoBadDog! wrote: Paula; As many have told you...adding a newsgroup does NOT delete anything and does NOT empty the trash. When OE does housecleaning, it compresses your folders and moves old files to the deleted items folder, Wrong. It doesn't do this either. OE only moves items to the deleted items folder when YOU tell it to. When OE compacts (preferably manually, whilst offline) it just removes wasted space, rather like defragging your hard drive, and makes this space available again for use. but does NOT delete the files from that folder. If your husband was silly enough to store his emails in the Deleted Items folder, and YOU emptied that folder, then the files are gone. A normal person would not store his emails in the deleted items folder. Bobby "paula" wrote in message ... OK I made a new folder for storing mail. And no I didn't delete anything..what to learn is that OE dumps the "deleted items folder" as part of its add newsgroup program..it does take out the trash an MS tech told me. Thank you for helping..and I got some fantastic news about going to windows\application data\Identities\Outlook Express folder and some other ideas as well under the responses... "Jone Doe" wrote: "paula" wrote in message ... I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express Newsgroup (add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box and now everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder where he was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean Install" ..no one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way to retrieve anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points unsuccessful. thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in trouble! Yes indeed you are in trouble. Setting up a newsgroup merely adds a newsgroup to the list. It does not do a clean install, or any kind of install. It merely adds a newsgroup. Not one mentioned it for just that reason, it doesn't happen. Therefore, you must have done something, like perhaps the click the very handy button to delete mail out of the deleted mail folder. If you want to store email, make a new folder with a name like, perhaps "Stored mail" to store it in. Why did you think they called it "Deleted items.dbx"? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.722 / Virus Database: 478 - Release Date: 7/18/2004 -- Kath Adams MS MVP - Windows (IE/OE) |
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Couple of things to try
(1) Check that you're checking the right "Deleted Items" folder. You may have more than one in your list of folders. (2) If you can also access your email via the web ie by logging on to the relevant website (eg hotmail.com for a hotmail account etc) then try accessing the mail account in that way, to see what you may be able to retrieve Jon wrote in message ... I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express Newsgroup (add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box and now everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder where he was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean Install" ..no one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way to retrieve anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points unsuccessful. thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in trouble! |
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Thank You will try..Installing a newsgroup dumps the deleted items folder! Jon
good idea..will try to go through Comcast.net You are Heroic! paula "Jon" wrote: Couple of things to try (1) Check that you're checking the right "Deleted Items" folder. You may have more than one in your list of folders. (2) If you can also access your email via the web ie by logging on to the relevant website (eg hotmail.com for a hotmail account etc) then try accessing the mail account in that way, to see what you may be able to retrieve Jon wrote in message ... I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express Newsgroup (add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box and now everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder where he was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean Install" ..no one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way to retrieve anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points unsuccessful. thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in trouble! |
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Joined OE Newsgroup but deleted husband's mail
Hello Carey..Well your tech support told me that adding a newsgroup in O.E.
does set up a daily trash-take out..It does empty the "deleted items folder" and they said it does it as a regular part of it's setup. DO you know about this? "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote: Joining an Outlook Express newsgroup does not perform a "clean install" and does not delete any files. You must have inadvertently emptied the "Deleted Items" folder. Storing email in the "Deleted Items" folders is not a very prudent thing to do. Sorry, those files are gone. -- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows XP - Shell/User Be Smart! Protect your PC! http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "paula" wrote in message: ... |I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express Newsgroup | (add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box and now | everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder where he | was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean Install" ..no | one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way to retrieve | anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points unsuccessful. | thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in trouble! |
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Hello there! All the mail from the "Deleted Items Folder" is lost, everything else is
there. Thank you very much Ravickumar! "Ravickumar M - MVP" wrote: Hi paula, could you please tell us whether all the mails from inbox have gone to deleted folder or all the mails from deleted folder is lost. Regards Ravickumar M "paula" wrote: I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express Newsgroup (add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box and now everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder where he was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean Install" ..no one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way to retrieve anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points unsuccessful. thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in trouble! |
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Well a technician said that adding a newsgroup does (OE) dump the
deleted items folder..and does so on a regular basis as it loads mail "Gordon" wrote: "paula" wrote in message ... I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express Newsgroup (add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box and now everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder where he was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean Install" ..no one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way to retrieve anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points unsuccessful. thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in trouble! Ummm - the Deleted Items folder is for ITEMS THAT ARE DELETED! What numbskull "stores" emails in the Deleted Items folder? Sheeesh! And joining a newsgroup should have NO effect on any mail folders AT ALL so I don't quite know what you did. |
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Everybody! The box by "Empty items from the deleted items folder on exit"
is not checked, was not checked....ever.......... Iolo was able to open the file "Identities under Application Data, however, even though IOLO found Folders dbx and inbox dbx....when I went to this identities folder it said zero files, 0 folders. Maybe security issue? ANybody know how to open this "identities" folder and see the Outlook Express stuff?How is it Iolo sees stuff in it and I can't? "paula" wrote: I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express Newsgroup (add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box and now everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder where he was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean Install" ..no one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way to retrieve anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points unsuccessful. thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in trouble! |
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Who or what is "lolo"?
Did you read my previous suggestions? Do you have more than one identity? If so, are you sure you are looking in the correct identity? -- Kath Adams MS MVP - Windows (IE/OE) paula wrote: Everybody! The box by "Empty items from the deleted items folder on exit" is not checked, was not checked....ever.......... Iolo was able to open the file "Identities under Application Data, however, even though IOLO found Folders dbx and inbox dbx....when I went to this identities folder it said zero files, 0 folders. Maybe security issue? ANybody know how to open this "identities" folder and see the Outlook Express stuff?How is it Iolo sees stuff in it and I can't? "paula" wrote: I followed the directions to sign up for the Outlook Express Newsgroup (add newsgroup) on My husband's Outlook Express mail box and now everything is gone from his folder "Deleted items" folder where he was storing mail. Joining a Newsgroup does a "Clean Install" ..no one mentioned this in the join up procedure. ANy way to retrieve anything would be a happy ending.... Restore Points unsuccessful. thank you Paula in Stockton ............ I am in trouble! |
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