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"Neil UK" wrote Wrong. I am not a troll, in any way you choose to define that word. You cannot find in any previous posting of mine where I have raised points merely to be a nuisance. I just want this website, or whatever it s supposed to be called, to be used only to solve the problems of XP users. Is that too much to ask? -- Neil UK Um, you started an off topic thread called "Rude replies" and, surprise, surprise, you got all the rude replies you could ever need. Now, if you want to know something about XP, we're all ears. Alias "Jone Doe" wrote: Frankly no one is interested in your opinion, and most of us are now recognizing you for what you are, which is a troll, and will ignore anything more you post. "Neil UK" wrote in message ... Dear Mr K**tr**l |
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Neil UK wrote:
As a relatively new subscriber to this newsgroup, I wish to express my disgust that one or two people are replying to questions that have been posed by persons who are in difficulties by writing insulting and useless replies that do not help the person who posed the original queries. I myself am not in any way an expert: but when I see people who hold themselves out to be experts indulging in personal and scatological abuse of others, I say ENOUGH! Recently a person who calls himself Kurtrail and another who is called David Candy have, in my opinion, fallen below the standards that I believe should apply to a zone that should be dedicated to the pursuit of constructive excellence. This site should not be the ground for the dissemination of political or self-aggrandizing opinions. Nor have we been helped by the fact that it now appears that two different people are posting using the handle "Kelly". There is only one Kelly, so please will the spoofer get off the line. I assume that those who host this site will take notice of my remarks and take steps to regulate matters so that only constructive and not DE-structive messages are posted. Think I rude here?! Think again! Just check out my latest Blog entry! I dedicate it to you, Neil, as it was your obvious case of LDS that inspired it! http://kurttrail.com/kblog/ -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.com/mscommunity "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei" |
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OMG! Now look what you've started Neil.
"Neil UK" wrote in message news | As a relatively new subscriber to this newsgroup, I wish to express my | disgust that one or two people are replying to questions that have been posed | by persons who are in difficulties by writing insulting and useless replies | that do not help the person who posed the original queries. I myself am not | in any way an expert: but when I see people who hold themselves out to be | experts indulging in personal and scatological abuse of others, I say ENOUGH! | | Recently a person who calls himself Kurtrail and another who is called David | Candy have, in my opinion, fallen below the standards that I believe should | apply to a zone that should be dedicated to the pursuit of constructive | excellence. This site should not be the ground for the dissemination of | political or self-aggrandizing opinions. | | Nor have we been helped by the fact that it now appears that two different | people are posting using the handle "Kelly". There is only one Kelly, so | please will the spoofer get off the line. I assume that those who host this | site will take notice of my remarks and take steps to regulate matters so | that only constructive and not DE-structive messages are posted. | | | -- | Neil UK |
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Alias wrote:
"Neil UK" wrote Wrong. I am not a troll, in any way you choose to define that word. You cannot find in any previous posting of mine where I have raised points merely to be a nuisance. I just want this website, or whatever it s supposed to be called, to be used only to solve the problems of XP users. Is that too much to ask? -- Neil UK Um, you started an off topic thread called "Rude replies" and, surprise, surprise, you got all the rude replies you could ever need. Now, if you want to know something about XP, we're all ears. Now that you explained how he is a troll, he'll have to lie to deny it further! -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.com/mscommunity "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei" |
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MarcD wrote:
OMG! Now look what you've started Neil. Exactly what all trolls want, attention! -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.com/mscommunity "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei" |
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"Neil UK" wrote in message
news As a relatively new subscriber to this newsgroup, I wish to express my disgust that one or two people are replying to questions that have been posed by persons who are in difficulties by writing insulting and useless replies that do not help the person who posed the original queries. I myself am not in any way an expert: but when I see people who hold themselves out to be experts indulging in personal and scatological abuse of others, I say ENOUGH! Recently a person who calls himself Kurtrail and another who is called David Candy have, in my opinion, fallen below the standards that I believe should apply to a zone that should be dedicated to the pursuit of constructive excellence. This site should not be the ground for the dissemination of political or self-aggrandizing opinions. Nor have we been helped by the fact that it now appears that two different people are posting using the handle "Kelly". There is only one Kelly, so please will the spoofer get off the line. I assume that those who host this site will take notice of my remarks and take steps to regulate matters so that only constructive and not DE-structive messages are posted. -- Neil UK Your seemingly innocent post is in reality an evil plot to take away my preferred form of entertainment. Nothing better than a Sunday morning fishing trip trolling for minnows. Occasionally you hook a whale but that can be fun too. Seriously though, part of the reason Usenet is still here after all these years is because it allows a free flow of uncensored information. Uncensored internet access, of which Usenet is part, has helped with the downfall of more than a few tyrannical governments. With that kind of freedom comes abuse. Learn to put up with it or use AOL for your ISP. Oh yeah, I forgot, they censored Usenet right out of existence for their customers. Kerry |
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In ,
peacemaker had this to say: My reply is at the bottom of your sent message: Hey Kurt. Before you go criticizing people on their lack of knowledge or expertise you better take a look at yourself first. I see tons of posts by you asking questions that my 10 year old niece can answer. So I question your level of knowledge and expertise. Then I see replies from you that are rude just as Neil explains and to top it off you give the wrong answers or suggestions. I'm not sure if you do this on purpose just to irritate the NG or if it is simply becuase you lack the knowledge. I assume it is the latter given your attitude. Hey now, Kurt may be ignorant in the humanity areas of life but I've seen him post valid and valuable information in the past. While he is, in reality, much like the common troll he sometimes pokes himself away from the egotistical drivel commonly associated with him and makes honest posts that contain good information. While I'd not done any statistics on this I'd say that 5% of his posts are worth reading from an educational standpoint. The rest are useless, arrogant, tin-hat wearing, boarderline insane, drivel perhaps but 5% is far better than some others. Whilst I don't disagree with many of the threads topics as they're listed I can't really say that I've honestly seen Kurt post anything as a question that wasn't in the advanced category. I can also say that I don't recall, it could be I have a bad memory, him ever giving "wrong answers." Now, I've seen him giving MANY unwanted/unwarranted answers g but never really wrong from a technological view point. If you want to cite his frailties (and he has many as I'm sure we all do) then it's best to probably grab the more noticable ones to refer to such as attitude, vulgarities, violations of the terms of agreement for use of the server perhaps though I must admit I've never read them, or generally goading people to ire. However, don't cite him as giving bad tech. answers nor asking poor questions. *chuckles* (At least I've not witnessed any of that.) When he's not busy being a troll he's fully capable of giving good advice and helping and a couple of distant memories seem to hazily include him posting stuff I'd not known. Galen -- "And that recommendation, with the exaggerated estimate of my ability with which he prefaced it, was, if you will believe me, Watson, the very first thing which ever made me feel that a profession might be made out of what had up to that time been the merest hobby." Sherlock Holmes |
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Hi Neil,
I have really tried to read this thread but gave up. As I would normally support these two, I give up again. All of this really needs to stop. There is no humane nor technical point to it. -- All the Best, Kelly (MS-MVP) Troubleshooting Windows XP http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com "Neil UK" wrote in message news As a relatively new subscriber to this newsgroup, I wish to express my disgust that one or two people are replying to questions that have been posed by persons who are in difficulties by writing insulting and useless replies that do not help the person who posed the original queries. I myself am not in any way an expert: but when I see people who hold themselves out to be experts indulging in personal and scatological abuse of others, I say ENOUGH! Recently a person who calls himself Kurtrail and another who is called David Candy have, in my opinion, fallen below the standards that I believe should apply to a zone that should be dedicated to the pursuit of constructive excellence. This site should not be the ground for the dissemination of political or self-aggrandizing opinions. Nor have we been helped by the fact that it now appears that two different people are posting using the handle "Kelly". There is only one Kelly, so please will the spoofer get off the line. I assume that those who host this site will take notice of my remarks and take steps to regulate matters so that only constructive and not DE-structive messages are posted. -- Neil UK |
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Kelly wrote:
Hi Neil, I have really tried to read this thread but gave up. As I would normally support these two, I give up again. All of this really needs to stop. There is no humane nor technical point to it. It's all in good fun, at least on my part. I particularly enjoyed it when Neil responded rudely to John Eddy, when all John was doing was trying to help him. Neil overracted to a couple of posts he read yesterday in one thread. The funny part is that he has backed down with David, and is still upset with me, and I only posted one reply in that thread, to Leythos about how he was rude reply enabler. "Lameboy, this is the USENET, not your weekly Bible Study meeting. Being a pansy Miss Manners is only gonna get you flamed more, not less." That was the full extent of my participation in that "offending thread" before Neil started this one. So having totally overracted with this thread, over the events of one isolated thread among millions, about David, about me, and about sombody else named Kelly, whose only offense is using the same name as you, I decided to give Neil what he needed. You can't always get what you want You can't always get what you want You can't always get what you want But if you try sometimes, well you just might find You get what you need And I'm just the ******* to supply that need! ;-) So that about sums up this thread. There really is no need to read it. Whether Neil knew what he was doing or not is immaterial. This thread is just a troll, and "There is no humane nor technical point to it," other than teaching Neil a lesson. And that lesson is to worry about what you can actually control, your own actions. But if you want to see a classic, read the exchange between Neil and John Eddy. Neil basically tells John that his problem with me is really John's problem and to deal with it. It is a perfect example of the British false sense of superiority over all! Have a good one, Kelly. -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.com/mscommunity "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei" |
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Niel Some people thrive on trolling and others on troll baiting, its how the internet works, unfortunately. The anonimity of it all just inspires the devil in some people ,its like road rage only in digital form. I move on if I get too annoyed. ALthough I must admit, there are *CERTAIN* people here with no sense of humour....... -- guestfromhell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ guestfromhell's Profile: http://www.iamnotageek.com/member.php?userid=12490 View this thread: http://www.iamnotageek.com/showthread.php?t=1819078928 |
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I hear you, Kurt and no harm done. He just didn't know what he was jumping
into and was expressing his opinion from the old school. By the way, he is retired attorney and only meant well, I would wager to guess. ) -- All the Best, Kelly (MS-MVP) Troubleshooting Windows XP http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com "kurttrail" wrote in message ... Kelly wrote: Hi Neil, I have really tried to read this thread but gave up. As I would normally support these two, I give up again. All of this really needs to stop. There is no humane nor technical point to it. It's all in good fun, at least on my part. I particularly enjoyed it when Neil responded rudely to John Eddy, when all John was doing was trying to help him. Neil overracted to a couple of posts he read yesterday in one thread. The funny part is that he has backed down with David, and is still upset with me, and I only posted one reply in that thread, to Leythos about how he was rude reply enabler. "Lameboy, this is the USENET, not your weekly Bible Study meeting. Being a pansy Miss Manners is only gonna get you flamed more, not less." That was the full extent of my participation in that "offending thread" before Neil started this one. So having totally overracted with this thread, over the events of one isolated thread among millions, about David, about me, and about sombody else named Kelly, whose only offense is using the same name as you, I decided to give Neil what he needed. You can't always get what you want You can't always get what you want You can't always get what you want But if you try sometimes, well you just might find You get what you need And I'm just the ******* to supply that need! ;-) So that about sums up this thread. There really is no need to read it. Whether Neil knew what he was doing or not is immaterial. This thread is just a troll, and "There is no humane nor technical point to it," other than teaching Neil a lesson. And that lesson is to worry about what you can actually control, your own actions. But if you want to see a classic, read the exchange between Neil and John Eddy. Neil basically tells John that his problem with me is really John's problem and to deal with it. It is a perfect example of the British false sense of superiority over all! Have a good one, Kelly. -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.com/mscommunity "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei" |
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You want humor? http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/slippy_slide.htm
-- All the Best, Kelly (MS-MVP) Troubleshooting Windows XP http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com "guestfromhell" wrote in message ... Niel Some people thrive on trolling and others on troll baiting, its how the internet works, unfortunately. The anonimity of it all just inspires the devil in some people ,its like road rage only in digital form. I move on if I get too annoyed. ALthough I must admit, there are *CERTAIN* people here with no sense of humour....... -- guestfromhell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ guestfromhell's Profile: http://www.iamnotageek.com/member.php?userid=12490 View this thread: http://www.iamnotageek.com/showthread.php?t=1819078928 |
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ROFL
That reminded me of those Candid Camera programs on TVg Joan Kelly wrote: You want humor? http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/slippy_slide.htm |
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David Candy wrote:
is it GOOD or is it BAD to sneer and use insulting and bad language in response to the queries of the afflicted But this is only in your head. It didn't happen. Actually I think one point that Neil made in his post is true, while the majority of people here are helpful, tactful and considerate, there are people here who post offensive, insulting and defamatory replies which IMHO fall far short of what I was bought up to consider acceptable. Kurt makes the point that: "This is the virtual wild west, and if you are as unarmed as you appear, then you should cower in the corner with the womenfolk and watch house the gunslingers fight it out" - which is the kind of attitude to which I think Neil is alluding. It may come as news to many here, but a lot of 'civilians' regard computer users as rude, intollerant, arrogant and with minimal social skills, and the way some people carry on here will only re-inforce that in somebody who is having problems, hears that on usenet they can get advice from experts for free, and then gets treated like dirt for asking. Worth also noting that the gunslingers in the wild west only killed people, it was the ordinary people with civilised manners who actually created anything in the west. Standing back and waiting for the abuse to come my way next ...... |
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Kelly wrote:
I hear you, Kurt and no harm done. He just didn't know what he was jumping into and was expressing his opinion from the old school. By the way, he is retired attorney and only meant well, I would wager to guess. ) "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." Yeah, I understand where he is coming from, and that is why I stood up to him. I will never back down to the PC police. Oh, they mean well, just like the Nazis thought that they were doing good for their society. But I happen to be a traditionalist American. I believe in an absolute right to free speech, and will not stand aside quietly when I see someone trying to infringe on it. "Live Free or Die!" -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.com/mscommunity "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei" |
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