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Old August 21st 18, 04:28 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default AVG "inefficieny system settings" and "redundant apps"

In its periodic attempts to make me buy the (or some) product, AVG free
occasionally pops up brief information about things "wrong" with my
system; usually, if I click on the "fix them" or "show details" symbol,
it tells me I need to buy to get any further.
This time, it's told me I have 4 "inefficient system settings", and
what/where they are (or rather _some_ details):

Iphlpsvc

Bitmeter2 lnk ...Start Menu\Programs\Startup

Allow Multiple T S Sessions HKLM\Software\MS\WindowsNT\CurrentVe...

Win32 Priority Separation
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\PriorityC...

Anyone know what they are (probably apart from the Bitmeter2 one - I
already know I've got that set up to start twice at startup, just
haven't got round to deleting one of them).

It also tells me I have 6 "Redundant Apps":

T Web Camera (all show HKLM\blah blah here)
Winamp Agent
Igfx Tray
Persistence
Hot Key Cmds
{553891 B7- A0-D5-4526- B...

How does it know they're redundant, are they really, and what are they
anyway? (I'm guessing T Web Camera some Toshiba thing to do with it,
Winamp agent some sort of updater, and Igfx Tray the thing that puts an
icon in the tray through which I can change graphics settings, but these
are only guesses, and I have no idea what the last three are.)

(It also tells me I have 467.64 MB of junk files, and what folders
they're in.))
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Old August 21st 18, 06:07 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default AVG "inefficieny system settings" and "redundant apps"

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In its periodic attempts to make me buy the (or some) product, AVG
free occasionally pops up brief information about things "wrong" with
my system; usually, if I click on the "fix them" or "show details"
symbol, it tells me I need to buy to get any further.
This time, it's told me I have 4 "inefficient system settings", and
what/where they are (or rather _some_ details):

Iphlpsvc

Bitmeter2 lnk ...Start Menu\Programs\Startup

Allow Multiple T S Sessions HKLM\Software\MS\WindowsNT\CurrentVe...
Win32 Priority Separation
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\PriorityC...

Anyone know what they are (probably apart from the Bitmeter2 one - I
already know I've got that set up to start twice at startup, just
haven't got round to deleting one of them).

It also tells me I have 6 "Redundant Apps":

T Web Camera (all show HKLM\blah blah here)
Winamp Agent
Igfx Tray
Persistence
Hot Key Cmds
{553891 B7- A0-D5-4526- B...

How does it know they're redundant, are they really, and what are they
anyway? (I'm guessing T Web Camera some Toshiba thing to do with it,
Winamp agent some sort of updater, and Igfx Tray the thing that puts
an icon in the tray through which I can change graphics settings, but
these are only guesses, and I have no idea what the last three are.)

(It also tells me I have 467.64 MB of junk files, and what folders
they're in.))


AVG has been telling me this sort of crap for years.
I've always ignored it. And I'm still standing.


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Old August 21st 18, 06:53 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default AVG "inefficieny system settings" and "redundant apps"

In article , says...

In its periodic attempts to make me buy the (or some) product, AVG free
occasionally pops up brief information about things "wrong" with my
system; usually, if I click on the "fix them" or "show details" symbol,
it tells me I need to buy to get any further.
This time, it's told me I have 4 "inefficient system settings", and
what/where they are (or rather _some_ details):

Iphlpsvc

Bitmeter2 lnk ...Start Menu\Programs\Startup

Allow Multiple T S Sessions HKLM\Software\MS\WindowsNT\CurrentVe...

Win32 Priority Separation
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\PriorityC...

Anyone know what they are (probably apart from the Bitmeter2 one - I
already know I've got that set up to start twice at startup, just
haven't got round to deleting one of them).

It also tells me I have 6 "Redundant Apps":

T Web Camera (all show HKLM\blah blah here)
Winamp Agent
Igfx Tray
Persistence
Hot Key Cmds
{553891 B7- A0-D5-4526- B...

How does it know they're redundant, are they really, and what are they
anyway? (I'm guessing T Web Camera some Toshiba thing to do with it,
Winamp agent some sort of updater, and Igfx Tray the thing that puts an
icon in the tray through which I can change graphics settings, but these
are only guesses, and I have no idea what the last three are.)

(It also tells me I have 467.64 MB of junk files, and what folders
they're in.))


The items/files listed as junk you can simply manually remove if
desired.

T Web Cam is likely for some webcam. If not normally used turn it OFF
using MSCONFIG.

WinAmp Agent is part of WinAmp. I run an early version and under
program's settings I can turn it off. I have no idea what it's for.

You do not need Igfx Tray running. Right click will get you most common
graphics dialogs.

I have no idea what Persistance is. Try turning it off and see what
happens. Guessing by it's name it's something to create some
"persistance" in something, e.g. perhaps it's to "remember" something
between boots, perhaps icon layout? Only you can really determine what
program uses that.

Hot Key Cmds is likely some resident app so you can define and use
hotkeys for things. Not needed but if it's your fancy for such stuff go
ahead and keep using it.

I've found almost all things that install startup items don't really
need them. Programs start normally anyways when invoked manually.
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Old August 21st 18, 08:59 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

In its periodic attempts to make me buy the (or some) product, AVG free
occasionally pops up brief information about things "wrong" with my
system; usually, if I click on the "fix them" or "show details" symbol,
it tells me I need to buy to get any further.
This time, it's told me I have 4 "inefficient system settings", and
what/where they are (or rather _some_ details):

Iphlpsvc

Bitmeter2 lnk ...Start Menu\Programs\Startup

Allow Multiple T S Sessions HKLM\Software\MS\WindowsNT\CurrentVe...

Win32 Priority Separation
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\PriorityC...

Anyone know what they are (probably apart from the Bitmeter2 one - I
already know I've got that set up to start twice at startup, just
haven't got round to deleting one of them).

It also tells me I have 6 "Redundant Apps":

T Web Camera (all show HKLM\blah blah here)
Winamp Agent
Igfx Tray
Persistence
Hot Key Cmds
{553891 B7- A0-D5-4526- B...

How does it know they're redundant, are they really, and what are they
anyway? (I'm guessing T Web Camera some Toshiba thing to do with it,
Winamp agent some sort of updater, and Igfx Tray the thing that puts an
icon in the tray through which I can change graphics settings, but these
are only guesses, and I have no idea what the last three are.)

(It also tells me I have 467.64 MB of junk files, and what folders
they're in.))


Stop using the bundleware, most of which is baitware. In Avast, during
its install I select only the following modules: file shield, web
shield, behavior shield. All the other components are fluff (e.g., mail
shield), nagging (software updater), or baitware. Avast acquired AVG,
so it's no surprise that Avast turned AVG into an adware platform just
like they did with Avast AV.

Besides NOT installing the fluffware and baitware, in Avast you can
enable a silent mode. That means you get no notifications. No notice
there is a program update (signature updates continue automatically,
though). No notice (popup) telling you some vague alert about why a web
page got blocked (suspect malicious content or behavior). Avast stays
silent. In silent mode, you don't get any of the ads that popup when
Avast decides to initiate yet another marketing campaign nor any alerts
from the fluffware and baits trying to get you to buy payware (but then
you shouldn't be installing those fluff and bait components). If Avast
AV has its silent mode, and since Avast acquired AVG, then AVG probably
also has a silent mode.
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Old August 21st 18, 10:30 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default AVG "inefficieny system settings" and "redundant apps"

In message , Mr Pounder Esquire
writes:
[]
AVG has been telling me this sort of crap for years.
I've always ignored it. And I'm still standing.


I'm not at all worried; just since, this once, it deigned to give me
details of what the (to it) offending things were, I just wondered what
they actually were (and in the case of some of them - Iphlpsvc,
Persistence, and the one that's just what looks like a registry key name
- how I am _supposed_ to know what they are.
--
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The desire to remain private and/or anonymous used to be a core British value,
but in recent times it has been treated with suspicion - an unfortunate by-
product of the widespread desire for fame. - Chris Middleton,
Computing 6 September 2011
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Old August 22nd 18, 12:46 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default AVG "inefficieny system settings" and "redundant apps"

In message , pjp
writes:
In article , says...

In its periodic attempts to make me buy the (or some) product, AVG free
occasionally pops up brief information about things "wrong" with my
system; usually, if I click on the "fix them" or "show details" symbol,
it tells me I need to buy to get any further.
This time, it's told me I have 4 "inefficient system settings", and
what/where they are (or rather _some_ details):

Iphlpsvc

Bitmeter2 lnk ...Start Menu\Programs\Startup

Allow Multiple T S Sessions HKLM\Software\MS\WindowsNT\CurrentVe...

Win32 Priority Separation
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\PriorityC...

Anyone know what they are (probably apart from the Bitmeter2 one - I
already know I've got that set up to start twice at startup, just
haven't got round to deleting one of them).

It also tells me I have 6 "Redundant Apps":

T Web Camera (all show HKLM\blah blah here)
Winamp Agent
Igfx Tray
Persistence
Hot Key Cmds
{553891 B7- A0-D5-4526- B...

How does it know they're redundant, are they really, and what are they
anyway? (I'm guessing T Web Camera some Toshiba thing to do with it,
Winamp agent some sort of updater, and Igfx Tray the thing that puts an
icon in the tray through which I can change graphics settings, but these
are only guesses, and I have no idea what the last three are.)

(It also tells me I have 467.64 MB of junk files, and what folders
they're in.))


The items/files listed as junk you can simply manually remove if
desired.


Indeed.

T Web Cam is likely for some webcam. If not normally used turn it OFF
using MSCONFIG.


This machine does have a webcam; whatever "T Web Camera" is doing, it's
not turning it on, as there's a blue light next to it whenever it's
actually active (e. g. in Skype), and it isn't on just after boot, or in
fact any time other than when I actively use it. (Yes, I know that in
some cases such indications can be hacked off. I don't think this one
has been.)

Doesn't using MSCONFIG, if you disable anything with it, cause the
system always to popup "this system is running in debug mode" or
something like that, at every boot (or was that only in XP)?

WinAmp Agent is part of WinAmp. I run an early version and under
program's settings I can turn it off. I have no idea what it's for.


So do I, and I just checked and as far as WinAmp is concerned, it's off
anyway. (I think it protects WinAmp's file associations.)

You do not need Igfx Tray running. Right click will get you most common
graphics dialogs.


Confirmed; I just selected Exit from the tray menu, and it disappeared,
and when I right-clicked on an empty part of the desktop, and got, among
other things, "Graphics Properties..." (which still brought up "Intel®
Graphics and Media Control Panel" rather than the normal Windows one; I
couldn't find a "start with Windows" one to untick, so it'll be back).

I have no idea what Persistance is. Try turning it off and see what


I would if I knew where, i. e. what it's part of! (I'm pretty sure I've
never installed anything with a name like Persistence.)

happens. Guessing by it's name it's something to create some
"persistance" in something, e.g. perhaps it's to "remember" something
between boots, perhaps icon layout? Only you can really determine what
program uses that.


(I do have a desktop layout preserver, but that's called iconoid.)

Hot Key Cmds is likely some resident app so you can define and use
hotkeys for things. Not needed but if it's your fancy for such stuff go
ahead and keep using it.


The only always-on thing of that nature I can think of is called
AllChars. (And that works slightly differently to how "hotkeys" usually
work, as it involves a _sequence_ rather than a _combination_ of keys.)

I've found almost all things that install startup items don't really
need them. Programs start normally anyways when invoked manually.


My experience too.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"On the whole, I'm in favour of the state getting out of people's lives, but I
would not have a problem with voting being made compulsory. But if you did
that, you'd have to have a box for 'None of the above'."
Jeremy Paxman, quoted in RT 2015/5/2-8
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Old August 22nd 18, 04:16 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote

| Iphlpsvc
|

http://maximumpcguides.com/windows-7...lpsvc-service/

You can usually figure these things out searching on the
names.

WinAmp was a music player from the old days.
Remember back when Windows Media Player and others
were all fighting to be your choice for playing music?
WinAmp was one of those. They all seemed to have
windows that looked like boom boxes. Tacky.

I don't listen to music, but my memory of it is that most
of those programs were sleazy spyware hoping to cash in
on eventual fees for music. And these days no one needs
a dedicated music player. VLC plays everything without
any nonsense.


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Old August 22nd 18, 04:19 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Mayayana wrote:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote

Iphlpsvc


http://maximumpcguides.com/windows-7...lpsvc-service/

You can usually figure these things out searching on the
names.

WinAmp was a music player from the old days.
Remember back when Windows Media Player and others
were all fighting to be your choice for playing music?
WinAmp was one of those. They all seemed to have
windows that looked like boom boxes. Tacky.

I don't listen to music, but my memory of it is that most
of those programs were sleazy spyware hoping to cash in
on eventual fees for music. And these days no one needs
a dedicated music player. VLC plays everything without
any nonsense.


Still using Winamp (and the others) here. Winamp is charming in its own
right. Haven't installed it on my Windows 7 laptop, but I am *assuming* it
won't be an issue. At least I have the 32 bit version of Windows 7, by
choice, to reduce some of these compatibility issues with older apps, of
which I have collected quite a few (including good ole Winamp, and the old
version, at that, not the AOL thing).


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Old August 22nd 18, 02:16 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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"Bill in Co" wrote

| Still using Winamp (and the others) here. Winamp is charming in its own
| right. Haven't installed it on my Windows 7 laptop, but I am *assuming*
it
| won't be an issue. At least I have the 32 bit version of Windows 7, by
| choice, to reduce some of these compatibility issues with older apps, of
| which I have collected quite a few (including good ole Winamp, and the old
| version, at that, not the AOL thing).
|

Most things should run OK on either 32 or 64 bit.
MS did a thorough job of supporting 32-bit in Win64.
Some programs might have glitches, but often those
can be fixed. You still don't need 64-bit, anyway,
but there are sacrifices: You can only use 3-4 GB
RAM with 32-bit.
And there are a small number of programs only
written for 64-bit. That will increase over time.
I have a 64-bit Win7 box here that I like to use
for things like editing video or large sound files.
But other than that I haven't found I need it.


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Old August 22nd 18, 04:21 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Mayayana" on Tue, 21 Aug 2018 23:16:10
-0400 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote

| Iphlpsvc
|

http://maximumpcguides.com/windows-7...lpsvc-service/

You can usually figure these things out searching on the
names.

WinAmp was a music player from the old days.
Remember back when Windows Media Player and others
were all fighting to be your choice for playing music?
WinAmp was one of those. They all seemed to have
windows that looked like boom boxes. Tacky.

I don't listen to music, but my memory of it is that most
of those programs were sleazy spyware hoping to cash in
on eventual fees for music. And these days no one needs
a dedicated music player. VLC plays everything without
any nonsense.


I'm partial to Media Monkey, in large part because I could use it
to load the iPod. (ITunes was the pits for music management.)

--
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Old August 22nd 18, 04:33 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 08/21/2018 10:16 PM, Mayayana wrote:

[snip]

WinAmp was a music player from the old days.
Remember back when Windows Media Player and others
were all fighting to be your choice for playing music?
WinAmp was one of those. They all seemed to have
windows that looked like boom boxes. Tacky.


I once used Winamp. The appearance of the window was inappropriate for a
computer screen.

I don't listen to music, but my memory of it is that most
of those programs were sleazy spyware hoping to cash in
on eventual fees for music. And these days no one needs
a dedicated music player. VLC plays everything without
any nonsense.


I prefer VLC now. A simple window, and good for what it does.

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http://notstupid.us/

"Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than
not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria
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Old August 22nd 18, 04:46 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mr Pounder Esquire
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Default AVG "inefficieny system settings" and "redundant apps"

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Mr Pounder Esquire
writes:
[]
AVG has been telling me this sort of crap for years.
I've always ignored it. And I'm still standing.


I'm not at all worried; just since, this once, it deigned to give me
details of what the (to it) offending things were, I just wondered
what they actually were (and in the case of some of them - Iphlpsvc,
Persistence, and the one that's just what looks like a registry key
name - how I am _supposed_ to know what they are.


I suspect that AVG want you to buy something?


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Old August 22nd 18, 07:24 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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In article , am says...

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote

| Iphlpsvc
|

http://maximumpcguides.com/windows-7...lpsvc-service/

You can usually figure these things out searching on the
names.

WinAmp was a music player from the old days.
Remember back when Windows Media Player and others
were all fighting to be your choice for playing music?
WinAmp was one of those. They all seemed to have
windows that looked like boom boxes. Tacky.

I don't listen to music, but my memory of it is that most
of those programs were sleazy spyware hoping to cash in
on eventual fees for music. And these days no one needs
a dedicated music player. VLC plays everything without
any nonsense.


I still use an early version of WinAmp (2.6) because it's fast with no
bloat and stays offline when it's told to. I also like it because it's
portable. A simply copy is all the install requires. It handles my over
150,000 songs list. Only problem is it's sorting has a bug in it and
requires multipule times before it sorts it all correctly.
  #14  
Old August 22nd 18, 07:28 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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"pjp" wrote

| I still use an early version of WinAmp (2.6) because it's fast with no
| bloat and stays offline when it's told to. I also like it because it's
| portable. A simply copy is all the install requires. It handles my over
| 150,000 songs list. Only problem is it's sorting has a bug in it and
| requires multipule times before it sorts it all correctly.

I never would have guessed this. I thought
WinAmp disappeared with Win98. Turns out
it's everyone's favorite program.


 




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