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How to display the desktop?
Sometimes my older brother calls me for help with the computer.
Today, he wanted to start Team-Viewer but he coudlnt' see the Desktop. We did get it started** and I'm looking at his desktop now and there is supposed to be an icon in the task bar that hides all the programs that are running and shows the desktop. But I dont' see it. He uses the Desktop that came with win10 but I'm using Classic Shell or the other one so for me it looks Win7 (and pretty much like XP iirc) so I don't know where to look in the win10 screen. Where is it? **When he couldn't see the desktop, I had him use the windows screen and type in T e a m v. and eventually he got 2 or 3 or 4 entries, but none were the program itself. The blue one with the two-headed arrow just asked if he wanted to download TeamViewer. Huh? I'm sure he had it already. What happened? Where did it go? I assure you he did not...*** So I gave in and we (he) dl'd and installed the new version, 14 I think. Then I had to update my version to match his, and everything worked after that (The problem was that some work-essential reading was too small to read, and I told him about ctrl-scroll-wheel, so that problem was definitely unrelated to the scam below. He also said the computer was doing other strange things, jumping around, but it didn't in the few minutes I worked on it, and I see he is up to page 16 of 48 pages of his reading so I guess it's stable now.) ***Yesterday a scammer wrote him and he usually knows better, but he called them back on the phone and they told him to install TeamViewer. That definitely should have been a red flag but I think my brother understands parts of the computer but not a global picture, like how bad it would be and how unnecessary it should be for anyone other than him and me to control his computer. So he started on this, but stopped and called me before he finished. We're not 100% sure that he didn't go too far, but he hadn't done at least one last step. Have you heard of a scam involving teamviewer and/or do you think they just wanted to use teamviewer to control his computer and his version was incompatible with theirs so he got far enough along that he deleted his own but never installed the other one?? That would explain why he didn't have it today. That would be good in that he was still TWO steps away from letting them do things to him, finishing the install and giving them the password. It seems pretty clumsy of them to limit themselves to people with the latest version of TV. Is it so uncommon that most people don't have it at all and have to install it anyhow when the scammers call. I've heard there are legitimate help desks that use TeamViewer. Do you know of any? I think years ago Verizon insisted on installing their version of remote control, but that was after I had called verizon on the phone at 1-800-Verizon, so I knew who I was talking to. |
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How to display the desktop?
On 17/01/2019 18:46, micky wrote:
We did get it started** and I'm looking at his desktop now and there is supposed to be an icon in the task bar that hides all the programs that are running and shows the desktop. But I dont' see it. At the extreme right of the Taskbar there is a vertical line, on W7 it was quite large (icon sized) but on W10 it is minute. (Extreme right, in fact push cursor bottom-right and Click). |
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How to display the desktop?
On 01/17/2019 12:54 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2019-01-17 13:46, micky wrote: Sometimes my older brother calls me for help with the computer. Today, he wanted to start Team-Viewer but he couldn't see the Desktop. Desktop is always "on". Shrink window, and you should see it. We did get it started** and I'm looking at his desktop now and there is supposed to be an icon in the task bar that hides all the programs that are running and shows the desktop.Â* But I dont' see it. [...] What Windows? Ther are annoyingly subtle differences between them. Drag your cursor right down to the very bottom right hand corner and this will display the desktop, There is NO icon, get right into the very corner on the taskbar. Rene |
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How to display the desktop?
micky wrote: there is supposed to be an icon in the task bar that hides all the programs that are running and shows the desktop. Slam the mouse into the bottom/right corner and click |
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How to display the desktop?
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 17 Jan 2019 13:02:30 -0600, Rene
Lamontagne wrote: On 01/17/2019 12:54 PM, Wolf K wrote: On 2019-01-17 13:46, micky wrote: Sometimes my older brother calls me for help with the computer. Today, he wanted to start Team-Viewer but he couldn't see the Desktop. Desktop is always "on". Shrink window, and you should see it. What do you mean by shrink it? Minimize? He has several windows open so he'd have to do that for every one of them. We did get it started** and I'm looking at his desktop now and there is supposed to be an icon in the task bar that hides all the programs that are running and shows the desktop.* But I dont' see it. [...] What Windows? Ther are annoyingly subtle differences between them. Windows 10 is all I know. Drag your cursor right down to the very bottom right hand corner and this will display the desktop, There is NO icon, get right into the very corner on the taskbar. When I do that on my computer, with Classic Shell or the other win7 interface, the desktop shows, but the moment I move the cursor out of the corner, the desktop disappears again, it goes back to the way it was. That wouldn't happen if I didnt' have the win7 appearance? Rene |
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How to display the desktop?
On 01/17/2019 1:11 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
micky wrote: there is supposed to be an icon in the task bar that hides all the programs that are running and shows the desktop. Slam the mouse into the bottom/right corner and click Funny, on my system I don't have to click, I just crowd the cursor into the corner where the thin white vertical line is. Rene |
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How to display the desktop?
On 17/01/2019 19.46, micky wrote:
***Yesterday a scammer wrote him and he usually knows better, but he called them back on the phone and they told him to install TeamViewer. That definitely should have been a red flag but I think my brother understands parts of the computer but not a global picture, like how bad it would be and how unnecessary it should be for anyone other than him and me to control his computer. So he started on this, but stopped and called me before he finished. We're not 100% sure that he didn't go too far, but he hadn't done at least one last step. Have you heard of a scam involving teamviewer and/or do you think they just wanted to use teamviewer to control his computer and his version was incompatible with theirs so he got far enough along that he deleted his own but never installed the other one?? That would explain why he didn't have it today. Yes, I have heard of it. I live in Spain (Europe), but I have an English surname. So sometimes some people, probably in India, call claiming to be Microsoft support and that I have a malign virus in my machine and that they need access to correct the issue. Even telling them I use Linux and they insist. LOL. I asked around and it is pretty common on other European countries, a lot on Britain (there are a lot of support and call centres in India servicing Britain). Aparently that market is well exploited already, so the try expats in Spain and other countries. You can find stories on youtube, too, people that play them up. Quite funny, because they can not switch off the call on their side or their boss have their heads on a plastic tray. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_support_scam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viiadQimvAk Revenge on Scammers - Call Flooder - 1000 Calls Per Minute It is possible they managed to install a rogue teamviewer software on your brother machine. Check the URL they told him to use. That machine needs to be audited, IMO. That would be good in that he was still TWO steps away from letting them do things to him, finishing the install and giving them the password. It seems pretty clumsy of them to limit themselves to people with the latest version of TV. Is it so uncommon that most people don't have it at all and have to install it anyhow when the scammers call. I've heard there are legitimate help desks that use TeamViewer. Do you know of any? I think years ago Verizon insisted on installing their version of remote control, but that was after I had called verizon on the phone at 1-800-Verizon, so I knew who I was talking to. The request must be initiated by you, not them. Yes, it is possible. Never trust someone initiating the call and asking for access. At worst, tell them that you will verify, and call them back but not on the number they say on the phone, but the one you have in your service contract. -- Cheers, Carlos. |
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How to display the desktop?
On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 18:59:34 +0000, Patrick
wrote: On 17/01/2019 18:46, micky wrote: We did get it started** and I'm looking at his desktop now and there is supposed to be an icon in the task bar that hides all the programs that are running and shows the desktop. But I dont' see it. At the extreme right of the Taskbar there is a vertical line, on W7 it was quite large (icon sized) but on W10 it is minute. (Extreme right, in fact push cursor bottom-right and Click). What you say is often correct, but not always; it's good enough for most people, but in the interest of being completely accurate, let me point out what's wrong with it. At the extreme *end* of the Task bar there is a line, not necessarily vertical. (Note the emphasis on the word "end.") On your computer, the end of the task bar may be on the extreme right, but on my computer, it's on the extreme bottom--the bottom left corner of the monitor--and the line is horizontal, not vertical. Why? Although by default the task bar appears on the bottom of the screen, it can be on any of the sides you prefer it on. To move it from any side to another, simply click on an unused part of it and drag it where you want it. Be sure to click *within* it, not on the edge; clicking on the edge and dragging will resize it, not move it. If it won't move, it may be locked. In that case, right click on it and uncheck "Lock the task bar," then try again. By the way, with today's wide-screen monitors, I prefer the task bar on the left or right side of the screen. I think that makes a better use of screen real estate than having it at the bottom. Since I keep it on the left-hand side of the screen, that's why the line is on the bottom left corner of my monitor. |
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How to display the desktop?
Terrific! Never noticed that before.
Now I don't have to type Win-D ;-) Patrick wrote on 1/17/2019 1:59 PM: On 17/01/2019 18:46, micky wrote: We did get it started** and I'm looking at his desktop now and there is supposed to be an icon in the task bar that hides all the programs that are running and shows the desktop. But I dont' see it. At the extreme right of the Taskbar there is a vertical line, on W7 it was quite large (icon sized) but on W10 it is minute. (Extreme right, in fact push cursor bottom-right and Click). |
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How to display the desktop?
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 17 Jan 2019 13:22:33 -0600, Rene
Lamontagne wrote: On 01/17/2019 1:11 PM, Andy Burns wrote: micky wrote: there is supposed to be an icon in the task bar that hides all the programs that are running and shows the desktop. Slam the mouse into the bottom/right corner and click Funny, on my system I don't have to click, I just crowd the cursor into the corner where the thin white vertical line is. Aha, clicking is the difference. After I click, the desktop doesn't get covered up when I move the cursor out of the corner. I'll write my brother about this and Win-D. Thanks to you and Alek for both. I always have trouble rememebering win-key commands, and today I forgot this one even existed. Carlos, no time to reply to your longer post today. I plan to. Thanks. Rene |
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How to display the desktop?
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Andy Burns wrote: Slam the mouse into the bottom/right corner and click Funny, on my system I don't have to click But you need to hover there for a second or more, it's quicker to click :-) |
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How to display the desktop?
On 01/17/2019 2:42 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote: Andy Burns wrote: Slam the mouse into the bottom/right corner and click Funny, on my system I don't have to click But you need to hover there for a second or more, it's quicker to click :-) Yep, you are correct, Thanks never tried clicking before, Learned a little more today. :-) |
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How to display the desktop?
On 17/01/2019 18:46, micky mouse wrote:
and I'm looking at his desktop now and there is supposed to be an icon in the task bar that hides all the programs that are running and shows the desktop. But I dont' see it. You must be blind because there was no need to write a long message just to ask a simple question. This is what the problem is with you lot. See this picture if you can see it and understand it and ask us using just one sentence how to get this window. We don't need a complete history about your family and their stupidity. https://i.imgur.com/UpNAUxX.png https://i.imgur.com/UpNAUxX.png That link is a toggle button. It can show the desktop or show all open windows by clicking on it. -- With over 950 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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How to display the desktop?
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 17 Jan 2019 19:28:40 -0500, Wolf K
wrote: On 2019-01-17 14:20, micky wrote: In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 17 Jan 2019 13:02:30 -0600, Rene wrote: On 01/17/2019 12:54 PM, Wolf K wrote: On 2019-01-17 13:46, micky wrote: Sometimes my older brother calls me for help with the computer. Today, he wanted to start Team-Viewer but he couldn't see the Desktop. Desktop is always "on". Shrink window, and you should see it. What do you mean by shrink it? Minimize? He has several windows open so he'd have to do that for every one of them. [...] Firstly, others have provided the solution (which I didn't know, since the only place I used it was on the Surface touchscreen, didn't occur to me that a mouse click would also work. Oh well, some of the little grey cells have checked out.) It's interesting h ow different people do things differently. I have all my windows maximized except I resent the ones that aren't able to do that! Secondly, I usually minimise a Window before switching, but that's just my style, but my advice works for me. Sorry that it wouldn't work for your friend. Not that he needs it anymore (see above) :-) . Yes. However,, t hanks. Best, |
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How to display the desktop?
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 17 Jan 2019 15:13:38 -0600, Rene
Lamontagne wrote: On 01/17/2019 2:42 PM, Andy Burns wrote: Rene Lamontagne wrote: Andy Burns wrote: Slam the mouse into the bottom/right corner and click Funny, on my system I don't have to click But you need to hover there for a second or more, it's quicker to click :-) I hovered for 13 seconds and when I moved hte cursor, the desktop disappeared. maybe because I'm using classic shell? Yep, you are correct, Thanks never tried clicking before, Learned a little more today. :-) |
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