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Old January 31st 19, 03:05 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Keith Nuttle
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Mozilla has put the tabs back on top again where they are not useful

Is there any way to put them back where they are supposes to be on the
bottom.



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Old January 31st 19, 03:55 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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"Keith Nuttle" wrote

| Mozilla has put the tabs back on top again where they are not useful
|
| Is there any way to put them back where they are supposes to be on the
| bottom.
|

I have no tabs, which is THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.

But this page says there's a way:

https://www.askvg.com/tip-get-classi...-australis-ui/

I haven't tried it as I try to avoid updating FF any more
than necessary, for just this reason. I'm tired of needing
to find new extensions to fix broken things.


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Old January 31st 19, 04:09 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 1/30/2019 9:33 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2019-01-30 21:05, Keith Nuttle wrote:
Mozilla has put the tabs back on top again where they are not useful

Is there any way to put them back where they are supposes to be on the
bottom.





.... I like 'em on top.

You could put the tabs toolbar below the bookmark tool on all verso up
to 65. However as all of the past version Mozilla broke the fix, so the
tabs return to the top.

I like the tabs below the bookmark tool bar as the tabs are then
associated with the bookmarks, not some where up in the sky.

I hope they develop a solution. It is very awkward having the tabs up there




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Old January 31st 19, 07:21 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Char Jackson
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Default Tabs on bottom of FIrefox 65

On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 22:09:57 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

On 1/30/2019 9:33 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2019-01-30 21:05, Keith Nuttle wrote:
Mozilla has put the tabs back on top again where they are not useful

Is there any way to put them back where they are supposes to be on the
bottom.





.... I like 'em on top.

You could put the tabs toolbar below the bookmark tool on all verso up
to 65. However as all of the past version Mozilla broke the fix, so the
tabs return to the top.

I like the tabs below the bookmark tool bar as the tabs are then
associated with the bookmarks, not some where up in the sky.

I hope they develop a solution. It is very awkward having the tabs up there


Like most people, I too, wanted the tabs back on the bottom (where they
clearly belong). ;-)

I just installed the version 65 solution yesterday, (and it works fine),
but I don't remember where I got the instructions. As before, it
involves placing a file called userChrome.css in your "chrome" folder
inside your Firefox profile folder, but the contents of userChrome.css
are slightly different now.

Here's my Google search - I'm quite sure I got the info from one of
these results.

https://www.google.com/search?q=fire...tabs+on+bottom

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Old January 31st 19, 07:37 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Char Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 22:09:57 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

On 1/30/2019 9:33 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2019-01-30 21:05, Keith Nuttle wrote:
Mozilla has put the tabs back on top again where they are not useful

Is there any way to put them back where they are supposes to be on the
bottom.




.... I like 'em on top.

You could put the tabs toolbar below the bookmark tool on all verso up
to 65. However as all of the past version Mozilla broke the fix, so the
tabs return to the top.

I like the tabs below the bookmark tool bar as the tabs are then
associated with the bookmarks, not some where up in the sky.

I hope they develop a solution. It is very awkward having the tabs up there


Like most people, I too, wanted the tabs back on the bottom (where they
clearly belong). ;-)

I just installed the version 65 solution yesterday, (and it works fine),
but I don't remember where I got the instructions. As before, it
involves placing a file called userChrome.css in your "chrome" folder
inside your Firefox profile folder, but the contents of userChrome.css
are slightly different now.

Here's my Google search - I'm quite sure I got the info from one of
these results.

https://www.google.com/search?q=fire...tabs+on+bottom


https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1241903

"it isn't possible for an add-on to make the changes because
Firefox 57+ does not let them make major structural changes
to the interface

The userChrome.css approach for moving the tab bar is roughly
the same for Firefox 57-64. It will change in Firefox 65.
That means lots of people have successfully done it, there
are demo videos, and you can also get help customizing it
to your needs."

Users who have to think like developers... Isn't this
what software is all about ? Of course.

It would be like owning an autonomous vehicle, where to get
to work in the morning, you have to Flash upgrade the firmware.
And it's -29C outside.

Paul
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Old January 31st 19, 06:56 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 31/01/2019 16:57, lew wrote:
I must be doing something wrong! I never had tabs at the bottom
on any version/update of Firefox. Did not know that the tabs
could be at the bottom.


The only thing you are doing wrong is not to understand how old people
explain themselves. Keith is a very old man and he meant to say tabs
below the menu bar. He definitely didn't mean to say at the bottom of
the page. Old people do have serious problems explaining themselves and
sometimes they take a very long time to explain themselves.





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Old January 31st 19, 06:58 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 31/01/2019 17:41, Rene Lamontagne wrote:



Maybe some one can enlighten us.



This is going to be very difficult to enlighten an old man so bugger off.






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Old January 31st 19, 07:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 1/31/2019 9:26 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 1/31/2019 1:37 AM, Paul wrote:
Char Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 22:09:57 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

On 1/30/2019 9:33 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2019-01-30 21:05, Keith Nuttle wrote:
Mozilla has put the tabs back on top again where they are not useful

Is there any way to put them back where they are supposes to be on
the bottom.




.... I like 'em on top.

You could put the tabs toolbar below the bookmark tool on all verso
up to 65. However as all of the past version Mozilla broke the fix,
so the tabs return to the top.

I like the tabs below the bookmark tool bar as the tabs are then
associated with the bookmarks,Â* not some where up in the sky.

I hope they develop a solution. It is very awkward having the tabs
up there

Like most people, I too, wanted the tabs back on the bottom (where they
clearly belong). ;-)

I just installed the version 65 solution yesterday, (and it works fine),
but I don't remember where I got the instructions. As before, it
involves placing a file called userChrome.css in your "chrome" folder
inside your Firefox profile folder, but the contents of userChrome.css
are slightly different now.

Here's my Google search - I'm quite sure I got the info from one of
these results.

https://www.google.com/search?q=fire...tabs+on+bottom


https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1241903

Â*Â*Â* "it isn't possible for an add-on to make the changes because
Â*Â*Â*Â* Firefox 57+ does not let them make major structural changes
Â*Â*Â*Â* to the interface

Â*Â*Â*Â* The userChrome.css approach for moving the tab bar is roughly
Â*Â*Â*Â* the same for Firefox 57-64. It will change in Firefox 65.
Â*Â*Â*Â* That means lots of people have successfully done it, there
Â*Â*Â*Â* are demo videos, and you can also get help customizing it
Â*Â*Â*Â* to your needs."

Users who have to think like developers... Isn't this
what software is all about ? Of course.

It would be like owning an autonomous vehicle, where to get
to work in the morning, you have to Flash upgrade the firmware.
And it's -29C outside.

Â*Â*Â* Paul

I followed the instructions and the tabs are still on top.

I assume the number in "-moz-box-ordinal-group: 2" is the position of
the toolbar ( top to bottom, 1 above 2, 2 above 3 etc) .

What I don't understand is why the tabs toolbar is 100.




OP While I like to maintain the latest version for security reason, I
have uninstalled 65 and reinstalled 64. Having the tabs at the top of
the page does not work for me.

I hope that some one comes up with a fix to move the tabs below the
bookmark tool bar.

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Old January 31st 19, 08:20 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Jonathan N. Little[_2_]
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Keith Nuttle wrote:

I am the OP.Â* I use tabs in conjunction with the bookmark toolbar.Â* I
have folders on the bookmark tool bar and open a folder as tabs.Â* This
puts the bookmarks in the folder unter the bookmark toolbar.Â* I can then
work the page in each tab until I am done with it and move on to the
next book mark folder for thos bookmarks.


Having the tab menu at the top of the window, interfers with the logic
of the operations as when you check the toolbars, you want to see the
tabs, not the bookmarks.

In other words the tabs are dependent to the bookmarks not the other way
around.

To resolve the problem I have uninstalled 65 and reverted to Firefox 64.
Â*I have shut off the auto update feature.



I think the logic goes that with the new orientation the tab has the URL
field *within* the tab. Also vertical space is conserved because the
title bar is eliminated. Thought it might be a Windows 10 UI thing but
it now looks the same on Ubuntu. It is a Firefox copying Chrome thing...

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Old January 31st 19, 08:33 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Char Jackson
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 13:31:25 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

OP While I like to maintain the latest version for security reason, I
have uninstalled 65 and reinstalled 64. Having the tabs at the top of
the page does not work for me.

I hope that some one comes up with a fix to move the tabs below the
bookmark tool bar.


Like I said yesterday, the fix is already available. The new
userChrome.css file for Firefox 65 is available he
https://www.userchrome.org/samples/u...ottom_Fx65.css

How and where to place it hasn't changed from before (versions 57 to
64). Only the actual content of the .css has changed.

Checking just now, Google has pages and pages of links describing how to
add userChrome.css to Firefox 65 to address the tab location situation.
If you don't like the link above, there are many others from which to
choose.

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Old January 31st 19, 09:05 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Keith Nuttle
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On 1/31/2019 2:20 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote:

I am the OP.Â* I use tabs in conjunction with the bookmark toolbar.Â* I
have folders on the bookmark tool bar and open a folder as tabs.Â* This
puts the bookmarks in the folder unter the bookmark toolbar.Â* I can then
work the page in each tab until I am done with it and move on to the
next book mark folder for thos bookmarks.


Having the tab menu at the top of the window, interfers with the logic
of the operations as when you check the toolbars, you want to see the
tabs, not the bookmarks.

In other words the tabs are dependent to the bookmarks not the other way
around.

To resolve the problem I have uninstalled 65 and reverted to Firefox 64.
Â*I have shut off the auto update feature.



I think the logic goes that with the new orientation the tab has the URL
field *within* the tab. Also vertical space is conserved because the
title bar is eliminated. Thought it might be a Windows 10 UI thing but
it now looks the same on Ubuntu. It is a Firefox copying Chrome thing...



yes the tab has the URL in it, BUT the bookmarked URL's are in a folder
in the URL toolbar. With the tabs below the bookkmarks, the tabs are
right above the page, so you have the tabs right above the page for easy
identification. Once you work close all of the tab as you finish with
it you then have the bookmark toolbar right above to access another
folder with URL's


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Old January 31st 19, 09:43 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 1/31/2019 2:33 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 13:31:25 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

OP While I like to maintain the latest version for security reason, I
have uninstalled 65 and reinstalled 64.Â*Â* Having the tabs at the top of
the page does not work for me.

I hope that some one comes up with a fix to move the tabs below the
bookmark tool bar.


Like I said yesterday, the fix is already available. The new
userChrome.css file for Firefox 65 is available he
https://www.userchrome.org/samples/u...ottom_Fx65.css

How and where to place it hasn't changed from before (versions 57 to
64). Only the actual content of the .css has changed.

Checking just now, Google has pages and pages of links describing how to
add userChrome.css to Firefox 65 to address the tab location situation.
If you don't like the link above, there are many others from which to
choose.

I tried to use that file and it changed nothing.



Because you *must* install it properly.

1) First navigate to your profile DIR. Easiest way is to enter
'about:support' in URL box and from the page under "Profile Folder"
click "Open Folder"

2) Create a folder if it does not exist, (it probably won't), and name
it chrome.

3) Put file userChrome-tabs_on_bottom_Fx65.css in that folder.

4) Rename the file to 'userChrome.css'

5) Restart Firefox and enjoy!

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Old January 31st 19, 09:46 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 1/31/2019 2:20 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:


I think the logic goes that with the new orientation the tab has the URL
field *within* the tab. Also vertical space is conserved because the
title bar is eliminated. Thought it might be a Windows 10 UI thing but
it now looks the same on Ubuntu. It is a Firefox copying Chrome thing...



yes the tab has the URL in it, BUT the bookmarked URL's are in a folder
in the URL toolbar.Â* With the tabs below the bookkmarks, the tabs are
right above the page, so you have the tabs right above the page for easy
identification.Â*Â* Once you work close all of the tab as you finish with
it you then have the bookmark toolbar right above to access another
folder with URL's



Maybe what would be idea is if the Bookmarks Bar could be placed at the
very top.

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Old January 31st 19, 09:46 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , lew
wrote:

No matter what is done to an UI, there will always be people who don't
like it for various reasons.


yep. nothing will satisfy everyone.

Like so many reviewers of the ipad
thinking that the ipad is the "best" tablet & the UI is also the
'greatest'. My belief it that the ipad is a piece of crap & unusable
as a tablet because of its strait jacket os;


ios is not in any way a straight jacket.

I did own an ipad 2017
& got rid of it within 6 months as it was unusable compared to
my android tablets.


what were you trying to do to where you considered it unusable?
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Old January 31st 19, 09:57 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 1/31/2019 3:43 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 1/31/2019 2:33 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 13:31:25 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

OP While I like to maintain the latest version for security reason, I
have uninstalled 65 and reinstalled 64.Â*Â* Having the tabs at the top of
the page does not work for me.

I hope that some one comes up with a fix to move the tabs below the
bookmark tool bar.

Like I said yesterday, the fix is already available. The new
userChrome.css file for Firefox 65 is available he
https://www.userchrome.org/samples/u...ottom_Fx65.css

How and where to place it hasn't changed from before (versions 57 to
64). Only the actual content of the .css has changed.

Checking just now, Google has pages and pages of links describing how to
add userChrome.css to Firefox 65 to address the tab location situation.
If you don't like the link above, there are many others from which to
choose.

I tried to use that file and it changed nothing.



Because you *must* install it properly.

1) First navigate to your profile DIR. Easiest way is to enter
'about:support' in URL box and from the page under "Profile Folder"
click "Open Folder"

2) Create a folder if it does not exist, (it probably won't), and name
it chrome.

3) Put file userChrome-tabs_on_bottom_Fx65.css in that folder.

4) Rename the file to 'userChrome.css'

5) Restart Firefox and enjoy!

Done that several times and all failed.

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