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Old March 6th 18, 06:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Good Screen Recoder (video) for WinXP

Hi,

I was looking for an ap for WinXP to record the video from the screen on
my PC. I downloaded "MOVAVI Screen Recorder" V9 for Windows (includes
WinXP), but after installing, I could not get it to "run".

On one PC, I saw a message that it could not locate entry point of a
certain (forgot to write name) .DLL. I installed it on another PC. After
installing, when I tried to launch it, I saw a message that it could not
"initialize"!!!

Does anyone know of a good WinXP video recorder for the screen?

Thank You in advance, John

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Old March 6th 18, 08:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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jaugustine wrote:

Does anyone know of a good WinXP video recorder for the screen?


http://applian.com/replay-video-capture/

However, a screen capture tool will also record every artifact that
occurs during the recording, like jerkiness or halts in playback (due to
buffering), the mouse moving across the screen (you forgot you were
recording a region of the screen), or anything you see will also be in
the recording. If you are trying to capture video *streams* from media
sites then you need to use a stream recorder, like:

http://applian.com/replay-media-catcher/

I've tried free screen and stream recorders and found them to be crap.
You never stipulated that suggestions must be for free products. I gave
up on the freebies and went with something that actually works and does
so reliably. Media Catcher is frequently getting updated to accomodate
media sites that change how they present their streamed media.
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Old March 6th 18, 08:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message ,
writes:
Hi,

I was looking for an ap for WinXP to record the video from the screen on
my PC. I downloaded "MOVAVI Screen Recorder" V9 for Windows (includes
WinXP), but after installing, I could not get it to "run".

On one PC, I saw a message that it could not locate entry point of a
certain (forgot to write name) .DLL. I installed it on another PC. After
installing, when I tried to launch it, I saw a message that it could not
"initialize"!!!

Does anyone know of a good WinXP video recorder for the screen?

Thank You in advance, John

What are you wanting to do? If it's copy playing videos, I have no
suggestions. If you just want to record the screen, or part of it, for
making tutorials on how to use software (or show some dumb company how
their website _actually_ works [or doesn't]), then I've found this
reasonable:
http://www.nchsoftware.com/capture/index.html
When I installed it on my old XP machine, with the default settings, it
recorded at about 1 frame per second, though with acceptable audio (so
OK for tutorial); I think I was able to make it go faster. I see from
the above page that it still claims to work on XP.

I never paid anything for it; I don't know if it's still free, or never
was other than a trial, or is but for private use only.

I've no idea how it compared to others; it did what I wanted, so I never
looked at others.
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No, I haven't changed my mind - I'm perfectly happy with the one I have, thank you.
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Old March 6th 18, 10:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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wrote:
Hi,

I was looking for an ap for WinXP to record the video from the screen on
my PC. I downloaded "MOVAVI Screen Recorder" V9 for Windows (includes
WinXP), but after installing, I could not get it to "run".

On one PC, I saw a message that it could not locate entry point of a
certain (forgot to write name) .DLL. I installed it on another PC. After
installing, when I tried to launch it, I saw a message that it could not
"initialize"!!!

Does anyone know of a good WinXP video recorder for the screen?

Thank You in advance, John


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compar...sting_software

( a second source is http://www.videohelp.com/software/se...screen-capture )

CamStudio - free

Relatively easy to use.
Used to have a 4GB limit (AVI with no AVI2 extension)
Open source, but one source file is missing (cannot escape
adware by building your own copy in Visual Studio).

Wikipedia article mentions "OpenCandy", packaging with adware.
There was a promise to implement AVI2, but some coders who
worked on the software, added dual-screen capture as a feature
instead.

Download a current copy, and see if it's clean enough to use.

*******

FRAPS is the most technically capable of all the tools. It's commercial.
But only works 100% up to Windows 7. Win8/Win10 added
some barriers to video capture from all three rendering planes.

*******

I use FFMPEG.
You don't want to use FFMPEG :-)
Command line invocation.

*******

To record Adobe Flash video, disable "Hardware Acceleration"
in the plugin.

There are (at least) three rendering planes:

1) 2D desktop (what FFMPEG will get me for sure).
2) VMR7/VMR9 video planes.
3) DirectX3D plane.

FRAPS records all three planes.

NVidia ShadowPlay can record (3). I think some MSI Freebie
offered (3) as well.

Where an output tool has a discretionary choice for render plane,
you may be able to change the render plane, so the screen capture
tool you use doesn't get a "green square".

In Windows 7, disable Aero Transparency thing, for lowest overheads
during capture.

In Win8/Win10, GDI capture has a 30FPS limit. In Win7 you
can go higher than that.

Have fun,
Paul
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Old March 6th 18, 10:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Good Screen Recoder (video) for WinXP

On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 19:46:46 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message ,
writes:
Hi,

I was looking for an ap for WinXP to record the video from the screen on
my PC. I downloaded "MOVAVI Screen Recorder" V9 for Windows (includes
WinXP), but after installing, I could not get it to "run".

On one PC, I saw a message that it could not locate entry point of a
certain (forgot to write name) .DLL. I installed it on another PC. After
installing, when I tried to launch it, I saw a message that it could not
"initialize"!!!

Does anyone know of a good WinXP video recorder for the screen?

Thank You in advance, John

What are you wanting to do? If it's copy playing videos, I have no
suggestions. If you just want to record the screen, or part of it, for
making tutorials on how to use software (or show some dumb company how
their website _actually_ works [or doesn't]), then I've found this
reasonable:
http://www.nchsoftware.com/capture/index.html
When I installed it on my old XP machine, with the default settings, it
recorded at about 1 frame per second, though with acceptable audio (so
OK for tutorial); I think I was able to make it go faster. I see from
the above page that it still claims to work on XP.

I never paid anything for it; I don't know if it's still free, or never
was other than a trial, or is but for private use only.

I've no idea how it compared to others; it did what I wanted, so I never
looked at others.


If you just want a screen capture, print screen key works fine for
me. It parks a JPG in the clip board at your current screen
resolution. If I want a better picture, in something that supports it,
set the screen to max pixel size your machine can handle and record
that.
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Old March 6th 18, 11:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Good Screen Recoder (video) for WinXP

On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 13:29:45 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

jaugustine wrote:

Does anyone know of a good WinXP video recorder for the screen?


http://applian.com/replay-video-capture/

However, a screen capture tool will also record every artifact that
occurs during the recording, like jerkiness or halts in playback (due to
buffering), the mouse moving across the screen (you forgot you were
recording a region of the screen), or anything you see will also be in
the recording. If you are trying to capture video *streams* from media
sites then you need to use a stream recorder, like:

http://applian.com/replay-media-catcher/

I've tried free screen and stream recorders and found them to be crap.
You never stipulated that suggestions must be for free products. I gave
up on the freebies and went with something that actually works and does
so reliably. Media Catcher is frequently getting updated to accomodate
media sites that change how they present their streamed media.


$50, not horrible if it works. I may do the trial first but it looks
like something I can use.
Does it do Netflix and Amazon sort of stuff?
Amazon seems to have good retention and we buy a lot of them but
things come and go on Netflix.
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Old March 7th 18, 01:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Does anyone know of a good WinXP video recorder for the screen?


http://applian.com/replay-video-capture/

However, a screen capture tool will also record every artifact that
occurs during the recording, like jerkiness or halts in playback (due to
buffering), the mouse moving across the screen (you forgot you were
recording a region of the screen), or anything you see will also be in
the recording. If you are trying to capture video *streams* from media
sites then you need to use a stream recorder, like:

http://applian.com/replay-media-catcher/

I've tried free screen and stream recorders and found them to be crap.
You never stipulated that suggestions must be for free products. I gave
up on the freebies and went with something that actually works and does
so reliably. Media Catcher is frequently getting updated to accomodate
media sites that change how they present their streamed media.


Hi,
Sorry, I forgot to mention that I am willing to pay for it.

John

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Old March 7th 18, 02:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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SNIP
I use FFMPEG.
You don't want to use FFMPEG :-)
Command line invocation.


Hi Paul,

Because you said, "I use FFMPEG", I will give that
a try. I do not mind "Command line invocation".

Thanks again, John



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Old March 7th 18, 05:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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SNIP
I use FFMPEG.
You don't want to use FFMPEG :-)
Command line invocation.


Hi Paul,

Because you said, "I use FFMPEG", I will give that
a try. I do not mind "Command line invocation".

Thanks again, John


Hi Paul,

You are CORRECT, "You don't want to use FFMPEG".

I thought you launch this "ap" (not an "ap"), via "Run" (Command Prompt)
with a "command tail".

John

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Old March 7th 18, 10:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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wrote:
SNIP
I use FFMPEG.
You don't want to use FFMPEG :-)
Command line invocation.

Hi Paul,

Because you said, "I use FFMPEG", I will give that
a try. I do not mind "Command line invocation".

Thanks again, John


Hi Paul,

You are CORRECT, "You don't want to use FFMPEG".

I thought you launch this "ap" (not an "ap"), via "Run" (Command Prompt)
with a "command tail".

John


It's not that bad.

To shoot video at one frame per second, when timing
software completion, I use this as a command. This
places screenshots in the current working directory.
I open the folder of JPG files with Avidemux 2.5,
and click the play button to see my "movie" or output
to another video format (if necessary). Doing it this
way, I can do demos of stuff, and just stop for a second,
allow FFMPEG to catch a screenshot, then select individual
frames later to make documentation. I could, say,
select a00103.jpg, a00205.jpg and a10000.jpg and upload
them to PostImg.

C:\FFMPEG\bin\ffmpeg -framerate 1 -f gdigrab -i desktop -f image2 -q:v 1 -c:v mjpeg a%05d.jpg

You can timestamp the video. The movie here can
be played with "ffplay" (if you're lucky). I've played
with "raw" capture mode just for fun - but it's not
compatible with anything else really.

C:\FFMPEG\bin\ffmpeg -framerate 60 -f gdigrab -i desktop
-vf drawtext=fontfile=arial.ttf:fontsize=14:fontcolor= :x=08:y=466:text=%{p ts}..%{localtime}
-vcodec rawvideo -pix_fmt bgr24 F:\out.mov

For sound and video, you first "discover" the name of the
sound device.

ffmpeg -list_devices true -f dshow -i dummy # Name of sound first...
ffmpeg -f dshow -list_options true -i audio="SoundMAX HD Audio" # Number of channels etc

With the name of the sound, now I can capture a portion of
my screen in real time. I might use this for Youtube Flash,
once HW Acceleration in Flash is turned off.

ffmpeg -offset_x 0 -offset_y 480 -video_size 720x480 -framerate 60
-f gdigrab -i desktop
-f dshow -sample_rate 44100 -i audio="SoundMAX HD Audio"
-q:v 1 -vcodec mjpeg -acodec pcm_s16le out.avi

The first row is pretty obvious. Not stating offset and dimensions
causes the whole screen to be captured.

The second line states the video source.

The third line states the raw sound source.

The fourth line specified "high quality", as a Q of 1 is no-compression
and a Q of 32 is high-compression-fuzzy. Q:V means Quality of Video.

The MJPEG codec is multithreaded. If you have a four core processor,
FFMPEG will work on compressing four frames at a time. I don't think
there is any temporal compression, so a good disk is needed for the
storage rate.

The audio codec is pretty standard for windows, with the LE standing
for "little Endian".

The choice of AVI is OK, as I suspect FFMPEG has AVI2 support and
once the file is past 4GB in size, it will be using AVI2 features.

For software, I use:

https://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/

Click 3.4.2
Click Windows 32 bit (for WinXP)
Click Static
Hold mouse over the Blue bar and verify the filename.
Click Blue bar and start download.

I unpack mine and keep it in C:\FFMPEG for no particular reason.

That's a very basic set of commands for screen capture.

*******

Making a two-pass DVD segment, looks like this. The aspect
ratio choice might have been because I was using WinTV
video tape capture or something. These numbers wouldn't
be "official" DVD, but they're headed in that direction.
And this is video format conversion, not screen capture.
It's possible the "target" command is including other
details about MPEG2 or whatever. The first pass outputs
a file (not named there) which carries "rate" info which
is used during the second pass. The quality is adjusted
down on the second pass, so the stated "buffer" doesn't overflow.

ffmpeg -i G:\WORK\Star_Wars_New_Hope_20113.avi -target ntsc-dvd
-aspect 4:3 -g 12 -b:v 3900k -maxrate 8000000 -minrate 0
-bufsize 1835008 -pass 1 -y NUL

ffmpeg -i G:\WORK\Star_Wars_New_Hope_20113.avi -target ntsc-dvd
-aspect 4:3 -g 12 -b:v 3900k -maxrate 8000000 -minrate 0
-bufsize 1835008 -pass 2 F:\output.vob

FFMPEG is the Swiss army knife of video.

"Even if you don't get any results, you'll have a hobby."

Paul
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Old March 8th 18, 02:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Wed, 07 Mar 2018 21:55:57 -0300, Shadow wrote:

On Tue, 06 Mar 2018 12:46:20 -0500, wrote:

Hi,

I was looking for an ap for WinXP to record the video from the screen on
my PC. I downloaded "MOVAVI Screen Recorder" V9 for Windows (includes
WinXP), but after installing, I could not get it to "run".

On one PC, I saw a message that it could not locate entry point of a
certain (forgot to write name) .DLL. I installed it on another PC. After
installing, when I tried to launch it, I saw a message that it could not
"initialize"!!!

Does anyone know of a good WinXP video recorder for the screen?

Thank You in advance, John


FastStone capture

http://www.faststone.org/FSCaptureDetail.htm

I use it mainly for images and scrolling webpages, but it can
do video captures.
[]'s


I forgot -- it only does WMV
If you want MP4 (and a few others), there's Gilisoft Screen
Recorder.

http://www.gilisoft.com/product-video-recorder.htm
Both work fine here on XP.
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Old March 8th 18, 01:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Why not give Microsoft Encoder 4 Free version a try. It used to run on
XP when I was using it. I also have it in Windows 10. It's one of the
best around as far as I can see.

Here's the video to get hang of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_YNGUgsERc

Hi Good Guy,

Youtube video is not as good as getting the instructions for using
MS Encoder. I will search for the program, WinXP version.

Thanks again, John


With all Microsoft products, Intelligence is required from the user's
part so if you are challenged by new technologies then don't waste your
time on Microsoft.

Alternative is: Screencast-O-Matic https://screencast-o-matic.com/

There is a download version as well.

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Old March 8th 18, 02:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Good Screen Recoder (video) for WinXP

I was looking for an ap for WinXP to record the video from the screen on
my PC. I downloaded "MOVAVI Screen Recorder" V9 for Windows (includes
WinXP), but after installing, I could not get it to "run".

On one PC, I saw a message that it could not locate entry point of a
certain (forgot to write name) .DLL. I installed it on another PC. After
installing, when I tried to launch it, I saw a message that it could not
"initialize"!!!

Does anyone know of a good WinXP video recorder for the screen?

Thank You in advance, John


FastStone capture

http://www.faststone.org/FSCaptureDetail.htm

I use it mainly for images and scrolling webpages, but it can
do video captures.
[]'s


I forgot -- it only does WMV
If you want MP4 (and a few others), there's Gilisoft Screen
Recorder.

http://www.gilisoft.com/product-video-recorder.htm
Both work fine here on XP.
[]'s


Hi Shadow,

For clarification, I want to record VIDEO off the screen. That
"movavi screen recorder" has a great feature, you can select
what part of the screen to record video. I NEVER received an
answer from them regarding my issue.

I don't mind WMV, so I downloaded FastStone. I will give
that a try and report back later.

Thanks again, John
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