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  #1  
Old January 20th 17, 02:54 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
jbm[_2_]
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Ok, maybe this should be in the XP group, but the computer is currently
running Win7 Home Premium.

Current system:

OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Version 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name XXXXXXX-OFFICE
System Manufacturer Hewlett-Packard
System Model G5105uk
System Type x64-based PC
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) II X3 440 Processor, 3000 Mhz, 3 Core(s), 3
Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 6.10, 02/07/2010
SMBIOS Version 2.5
Windows Directory C:\Windows
System Directory C:\Windows\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United Kingdom
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.1.7601.17514"
User Name XXXxxxx-Office\X X Xxxxx
Time Zone GMT Standard Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 3.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 2.75 GB
Available Physical Memory 1.11 GB
Total Virtual Memory 5.50 GB
Available Virtual Memory 3.25 GB
Page File Space 2.75 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

On-board drives:

Drive C:
Description Local Fixed Disk
Compressed No
File System NTFS
Size 584.40 GB (627,491,991,552 bytes)
Free Space 157.50 GB (169,109,729,280 bytes)
Volume Name OS
Volume Serial Number 189247B9

Drive D:
Description Local Fixed Disk
Compressed No
File System NTFS
Size 11.67 GB (12,535,721,984 bytes)
Free Space 1.41 GB (1,518,837,760 bytes)
Volume Name HP_RECOVERY
Volume Serial Number 305D9EA3

Drive E:
Description CD-ROM Disc (Rubbish - it's an optical DVD-CD ROM drive!)

PLUS 4 further external USB drives, one of them connected to the local
home network.

C & D are on the same physical SATA drive, but different partitions.

I do not have an installation disc for Win7, and if anything went
terminal, I would have to rely on drive D and a recovery CD to reinstall it.

Next week, I am getting a new computer, obviously running Windows 10.

So some questions:

1. Would it be possible to reformat just the Drive C partition and
install my own fully licensed CD copy of Windows XP plus service packs?
Or put another way, is the hardware compatible with Win XP? (This would
enable me to run a whole bunch of useful programs, and a currently
redundant Canon photo scanner, which will not run under Win 7.)

2. SP1, SP2, SP3. How many of these need installing? I guess just SP3.
Am I right?

3. If anything goes drastically wrong, or I change my mind at a later
date, is it possible to recover Win 7 from Drive D and Recovery CD ROM,
without Win 7 present on the C drive?

4. If option 3 is a definite no-go, how do I go about getting rid of
Partition D? Can't remember if the Win XP disc includes partitioning
tools. It definitely includes formatting tools. Somewhere in this house
are a suite of DOS programs that would do the job, but probably not on a
drive of that size. They date back to about 1995, and are on floppies,
but I think I might have them on a CD or an old HDD (USB caddy
available) as well.

Trust someone can up with some answers to that lot. Thanks in anticipation.

jim

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  #2  
Old January 20th 17, 03:40 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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"jbm" wrote

........

It's very likely that drivers are available for XP, but you
have to check. The specs are he

http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/p...r_na-c02586254

The motherboard is Asus. M826-LA. You can check
with them for drivers. The NVidia graphics will also
need drivers, but since it's all onboard those drivers
will come with the board drivers. You might want
to check with HP first, but they're not likely to offer
drivers for an OS they don't install.

For what you want to do it's a good idea to use
a disk and imaging tool. I use BootIt. Macrium has
a free version that a lot of people seem to like.
Personally I don't think it make sense to cut corners
on disk imaging and partitioning software.

If it were me I'd do the following:

* Back up all data.

* Re-install Win7 fresh from the restore partition,
clean it up, install any needed drivers and maybe
software, and make a disk image of it. Copy that
to DVDs and/or USB sticks.

* Wipe the disk and install XP. Install SP3. Install
all drivers and maybe software. Make a disk image
and copy that to external backup.

* Resize XP to about 10 GB.

* Restore the Win7 disk image behind it, at
60-100 GB.

* Partition the rest for data.

* Copy your disk images to data partitions for
future use.

* Dual boot with 3rd-party software.

With a fresh disk image of Win7 you won't need the
restore partition.

Optional: Upgrade the power supply and add a second
disk for redundancy. The box is probably about 7 years
old. The disk will probably last a few more years, but it
wouldn't be a big surprise if it died.

| a currently
| redundant Canon photo scanner, which will not run under Win 7.

Are you sure? I just dealt with an HP printer last
week. HP had no drivers and offered no help.
Microsoft, however, has a website where you can look
up Win7 support. They had the drivers. That might be worth
checking.


  #3  
Old January 20th 17, 04:31 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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One additional note: Some imaging software
may not be able to restore an image to a smaller
disk area. For flexibility, it's a good idea to shrink
OS installs to the smallest size you might want to
install before imaging. For instance, XP can usually
have plenty of room with 3 GB, so a 3 GB C drive
before imaging might make sense. You can always
enlarge later when/where it seems appropriate.


  #4  
Old January 20th 17, 06:34 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Mayayana wrote:
"jbm" wrote

.......

It's very likely that drivers are available for XP, but you
have to check. The specs are he

http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/p...r_na-c02586254

The motherboard is Asus. M826-LA.


I got a "M2N68-LA" there.

NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430

The 430 is the Southbridge. You can get a few drivers
to clean up the Device Manager entries. This driver package
normally has tick boxes, so you can select specific items
as you need them. The Southbridge may have an Ethernet MAC
built-in, or the motherboard maker could use a separate RealTek
chip if they wanted. You only need the Ethernet driver
in a kit like this, if the Southbridge MAC for a NIC is involved.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_....26_11.09.html

If you are using the graphics connector in the
I/O plate area of the motherboard, you would
look for the graphics driver for the 6150SE.
For example, the 6150SE is in the Product List on this
driver. The Download box on geforce.com/drivers is
just dreadful, so I located these two by "random search"
instead. There is no guarantee these are the latest,
and the intention is merely to get the box mostly
upright.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_169.21_whql.html

So it looks like, even without the help of Asus, you
can find some stuff.

To find a 6150SE/430 product support page on the Asus
site, the model number might be quite different. Asus
is not supposed to have an actual driver page for
M2N68-LA. HP should supply such a driver page, under
their PC model number. The M2N68 on the Asus site
(nearest name), uses a different chipset. I don't know
how many 6150SE boards Asus did, and they may have done
more boards with the original 6150. There is a bewildering
array of chipset names for that family, some of which
had half the PCI Express lanes they were supposed to have.
So some have x16 wiring in the video slot, and a few have
only x8 wiring. You can tell from the ceramic caps next
to the slot, whether it's a full or half slot.

In any case, the string "GeForce 6150SE nForce 430"
suggests "a good time for a WinXP user". You should
be able to find some materials to install, after the
basic WinXP install is done. Back up first (or whatever).
I disconnect all superfluous hard drives, before beginning
an install, so accidents cannot happen, and only the
target drive gets write cycles.

I think NVidia also offers a kind of "driver finder",
but it may require installing Java JRE (Oracle) before you begin.
If you do decide to try that (for the fun of it),
remember to remove Java JRE immediately afterwards,
using Add/Remove in the WinXP control panels. Don't
leave Java installed. That's what I do, when experimenting
with the NVidia driver finder. I would sooner have some
regular compiled code, than receive that in Java. But
I guess that wouldn't be "whizzy enough".

Also, if any NVidia software offers to leave a "driver updater"
running, you may want to remove or untick that. For some
users, they are constantly bombarded by irrelevant dialog
boxes - if your drivers are working and stable, the job is
done, and it's time to remove the "updater" thing. I tried
to help a guy, who kept getting the updated driver failing
to install, and it was a "regular circus" trying to explain
to him, that he should just turn that off. The driver updater
may be a useful feature for a gamer who buys one game every
week for the PC, but for people who just do MSWD or Firefox,
you don't need a new driver every week for the video. The
development of lines of code for the 6150SE stopped
years ago. Even if a driver is reissued, the same ole
code is going to be in the 6150SE section. The driver
changes now, would be for a Geforce 1070 or so.

Paul
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Old January 21st 17, 01:14 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
jbm[_2_]
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On 20/01/2017 02:40, Mayayana wrote:
"jbm" wrote

.......

It's very likely that drivers are available for XP, but you
have to check. The specs are he

http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/p...r_na-c02586254

The motherboard is Asus. M826-LA. You can check
with them for drivers. The NVidia graphics will also
need drivers, but since it's all onboard those drivers
will come with the board drivers. You might want
to check with HP first, but they're not likely to offer
drivers for an OS they don't install.

For what you want to do it's a good idea to use
a disk and imaging tool. I use BootIt. Macrium has
a free version that a lot of people seem to like.
Personally I don't think it make sense to cut corners
on disk imaging and partitioning software.

If it were me I'd do the following:

* Back up all data.

* Re-install Win7 fresh from the restore partition,
clean it up, install any needed drivers and maybe
software, and make a disk image of it. Copy that
to DVDs and/or USB sticks.

* Wipe the disk and install XP. Install SP3. Install
all drivers and maybe software. Make a disk image
and copy that to external backup.

* Resize XP to about 10 GB.

* Restore the Win7 disk image behind it, at
60-100 GB.

* Partition the rest for data.

* Copy your disk images to data partitions for
future use.

* Dual boot with 3rd-party software.

With a fresh disk image of Win7 you won't need the
restore partition.

Optional: Upgrade the power supply and add a second
disk for redundancy. The box is probably about 7 years
old. The disk will probably last a few more years, but it
wouldn't be a big surprise if it died.

| a currently
| redundant Canon photo scanner, which will not run under Win 7.

Are you sure? I just dealt with an HP printer last
week. HP had no drivers and offered no help.
Microsoft, however, has a website where you can look
up Win7 support. They had the drivers. That might be worth
checking.




Canon 8000F Flat-bed and Photo Scanner will not work under a Win 7
64-bit environment. Canon have never issued the drivers for it, neither
has anyone else, including Microsoft, not even generic drivers. 32-bit
drivers are available to allow use of the flat-bed, but nothing is
offered for the photo scanning side of it. And there is no support at
all for Win 10.

Thanks to the rest of you for your input. Everything has been printed
out for future reference, but I won't be doing anything about it now for
at least a month. Firstly, too much work on a current project cropped up
today, and the priority will be to get the new machine set up and
working. Then after that, there is a lot of remodelling in the office
here to get two computers up and running side-by-side, together with two
monitors side-by-side, not to mention all the extra power outlets
needed. Oh what fun. Thank God I'm retired, and have the time to spare!!!

jim

  #6  
Old January 21st 17, 05:52 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Steve Hayes[_2_]
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On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 00:14:29 +0000, jbm wrote:

Canon 8000F Flat-bed and Photo Scanner will not work under a Win 7
64-bit environment. Canon have never issued the drivers for it, neither
has anyone else, including Microsoft, not even generic drivers. 32-bit
drivers are available to allow use of the flat-bed, but nothing is
offered for the photo scanning side of it. And there is no support at
all for Win 10.


It was things like that that made me switch to the 32-bit version of
Windows 7 as soon as I set up my laptop.


--
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http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
http://khanya.wordpress.com
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Old January 21st 17, 07:26 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul in Houston TX[_2_]
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jbm wrote:
On 20/01/2017 02:40, Mayayana wrote:
"jbm" wrote

.......

It's very likely that drivers are available for XP, but you
have to check. The specs are he

http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/p...r_na-c02586254

The motherboard is Asus. M826-LA. You can check
with them for drivers. The NVidia graphics will also
need drivers, but since it's all onboard those drivers
will come with the board drivers. You might want
to check with HP first, but they're not likely to offer
drivers for an OS they don't install.

For what you want to do it's a good idea to use
a disk and imaging tool. I use BootIt. Macrium has
a free version that a lot of people seem to like.
Personally I don't think it make sense to cut corners
on disk imaging and partitioning software.

If it were me I'd do the following:

* Back up all data.

* Re-install Win7 fresh from the restore partition,
clean it up, install any needed drivers and maybe
software, and make a disk image of it. Copy that
to DVDs and/or USB sticks.

* Wipe the disk and install XP. Install SP3. Install
all drivers and maybe software. Make a disk image
and copy that to external backup.

* Resize XP to about 10 GB.

* Restore the Win7 disk image behind it, at
60-100 GB.

* Partition the rest for data.

* Copy your disk images to data partitions for
future use.

* Dual boot with 3rd-party software.

With a fresh disk image of Win7 you won't need the
restore partition.

Optional: Upgrade the power supply and add a second
disk for redundancy. The box is probably about 7 years
old. The disk will probably last a few more years, but it
wouldn't be a big surprise if it died.

| a currently
| redundant Canon photo scanner, which will not run under Win 7.

Are you sure? I just dealt with an HP printer last
week. HP had no drivers and offered no help.
Microsoft, however, has a website where you can look
up Win7 support. They had the drivers. That might be worth
checking.




Canon 8000F Flat-bed and Photo Scanner will not work under a Win 7 64-bit environment.
Canon have never issued the drivers for it, neither has anyone else, including Microsoft,
not even generic drivers. 32-bit drivers are available to allow use of the flat-bed, but
nothing is offered for the photo scanning side of it. And there is no support at all for
Win 10.

Thanks to the rest of you for your input. Everything has been printed out for future
reference, but I won't be doing anything about it now for at least a month. Firstly, too
much work on a current project cropped up today, and the priority will be to get the new
machine set up and working. Then after that, there is a lot of remodelling in the office
here to get two computers up and running side-by-side, together with two monitors
side-by-side, not to mention all the extra power outlets needed. Oh what fun. Thank God
I'm retired, and have the time to spare!!!

jim


VueScan says it works with 8000F Canon.
http://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/canon_8000f.html.
But... It's $40 for the home version. Almost as much as a new scanner.
I use v.9.4.32 with my old XP3 HP 7400c on W7/64.

  #8  
Old January 21st 17, 11:19 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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In message , Paul in Houston TX
writes:
jbm wrote:

[]
Canon 8000F Flat-bed and Photo Scanner will not work under a Win 7
64-bit environment.
Canon have never issued the drivers for it, neither has anyone else,
including Microsoft,
not even generic drivers. 32-bit drivers are available to allow use
of the flat-bed, but
nothing is offered for the photo scanning side of it. And there is no
support at all for
Win 10.


Is this two scanners in one - a normal A4 (or legal) flatbed, and a
smaller one for prints? Or is the "photo scanning" aspect just a way of
using the main scanner but at a higher resolution (or something, though
if only software that can presumably be done afterwards)?
[]
VueScan says it works with 8000F Canon.
http://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/canon_8000f.html.
But... It's $40 for the home version. Almost as much as a new scanner.
I use v.9.4.32 with my old XP3 HP 7400c on W7/64.

This is one of the many things that makes me cross: there obviously _is_
some sort of standard, or semi-standard, scanner interface that _does_
work under both OSs, but either the scanner manufacturers, or Microsoft,
or both, are very loth to "support" (release details of) it. So the
small company behind VueScan (IIRR, they're .au or .nz) have to work
hard at digging it out, for each model of scanner they support. (I don't
begrudge them the cost of their software; I just wish it wasn't, as Paul
in Houston says, about the same as a replacement scanner for all but the
most demanding applications. But they've got to make a living.)
--
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Nigel McCulloch\Bishop of Manchester (Radio Times, 24-30 September 2011
  #9  
Old January 21st 17, 02:51 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote

| This is one of the many things that makes me cross: there obviously _is_
| some sort of standard, or semi-standard, scanner interface that _does_
| work under both OSs, but either the scanner manufacturers, or Microsoft,
| or both, are very loth to "support" (release details of) it.

I don't know if this applies here, but there
are at least two major standards and they've
benn changing. For years the TWAIN interface
was used. Hardware needed to come with some
kind of software that would somehow register
a TWAIN interface with the system, which
image editors could then find.
TWAIN is still available in many cases, but
there's also a new standard, WIA or Windows
Image Acquisition. WIA is COM-compatible and
despite being poorly designed, it's fairly simple.
I've written an image editor and scanner interface
using only VBScript in an HTA (a webpage in IE.)

http://www.jsware.net/jsware/scrfiles.php5#wiaed

That's possible because Windows WIA wraps all
the functionality in simple functions. But hardware
must support WIA in order to use it. Older hardware
will not. In the future it *might* become a universal
standard, but of course MS might also decide to
dump it for some new acronym.

VueScan seems to be a universal TWAIN driver or
drivers. One pays for the drivers that Canon didn't
write.


  #10  
Old January 22nd 17, 12:06 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
jbm[_2_]
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On 21/01/2017 10:19, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Paul in Houston TX
writes:
jbm wrote:

[]
Canon 8000F Flat-bed and Photo Scanner will not work under a Win 7
64-bit environment.
Canon have never issued the drivers for it, neither has anyone else,
including Microsoft,
not even generic drivers. 32-bit drivers are available to allow use
of the flat-bed, but
nothing is offered for the photo scanning side of it. And there is no
support at all for
Win 10.


Is this two scanners in one - a normal A4 (or legal) flatbed, and a
smaller one for prints? Or is the "photo scanning" aspect just a way of
using the main scanner but at a higher resolution (or something, though
if only software that can presumably be done afterwards)?


In outward appearances, it is a standard flat-bed scanner. However, it
is possible to remove the white back plate above the scanning window,
which reveals a built in light source that will shine through any
negatives or transparencies placed on the platen. Canon provide film
holders to place on the platen, so that a strip of six 35mm negatives or
four 35mm transparencies can be held in place. Special software,
ScanGear, is required to activate the light source, and the scanning
resolution is raised to a maximum of 9,600 dpi for this operation.
Maximum resolution for ordinary scanning is 4,800 x 2,400 dpi. The
ScanGear software is also needed to achieve these resolutions. In the
past I have successfully scanned in 126 sized negatives (made my own
holder), and managed to print A4 copies of them with pretty good
results. I used the JASC Paint Shop Pro 9 imaging software, though very
little, if any, touching up was necessary. The 8000F, although not cheap
at the time, is a fantastic standard page/photo scanner, and offers more
than acceptable results for negatives and transparencies, at a fraction
of the cost of a dedicated machine. It's a pity all support for it was
removed after Windows XP.


[]
VueScan says it works with 8000F Canon.
http://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/canon_8000f.html.


32-bit maybe, but not 64-bit.


But... It's $40 for the home version. Almost as much as a new scanner.
I use v.9.4.32 with my old XP3 HP 7400c on W7/64.

This is one of the many things that makes me cross: there obviously _is_
some sort of standard, or semi-standard, scanner interface that _does_
work under both OSs, but either the scanner manufacturers, or Microsoft,
or both, are very loth to "support" (release details of) it. So the
small company behind VueScan (IIRR, they're .au or .nz) have to work
hard at digging it out, for each model of scanner they support. (I don't
begrudge them the cost of their software; I just wish it wasn't, as Paul
in Houston says, about the same as a replacement scanner for all but the
most demanding applications. But they've got to make a living.)




I have never found a 64-bit generic scanner driver, at least not one
that would run the 8000F in basic flat-bed mode. And I've looked all
over the place.

jim


  #11  
Old January 22nd 17, 01:30 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul in Houston TX[_2_]
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jbm wrote:
On 21/01/2017 10:19, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Paul in Houston TX
writes:
jbm wrote:

[]
Canon 8000F Flat-bed and Photo Scanner will not work under a Win 7
64-bit environment.
Canon have never issued the drivers for it, neither has anyone else,
including Microsoft,
not even generic drivers. 32-bit drivers are available to allow use
of the flat-bed, but
nothing is offered for the photo scanning side of it. And there is no
support at all for
Win 10.


Is this two scanners in one - a normal A4 (or legal) flatbed, and a
smaller one for prints? Or is the "photo scanning" aspect just a way of
using the main scanner but at a higher resolution (or something, though
if only software that can presumably be done afterwards)?


In outward appearances, it is a standard flat-bed scanner. However, it is possible to
remove the white back plate above the scanning window, which reveals a built in light
source that will shine through any negatives or transparencies placed on the platen. Canon
provide film holders to place on the platen, so that a strip of six 35mm negatives or four
35mm transparencies can be held in place. Special software, ScanGear, is required to
activate the light source, and the scanning resolution is raised to a maximum of 9,600 dpi
for this operation. Maximum resolution for ordinary scanning is 4,800 x 2,400 dpi. The
ScanGear software is also needed to achieve these resolutions. In the past I have
successfully scanned in 126 sized negatives (made my own holder), and managed to print A4
copies of them with pretty good results. I used the JASC Paint Shop Pro 9 imaging
software, though very little, if any, touching up was necessary. The 8000F, although not
cheap at the time, is a fantastic standard page/photo scanner, and offers more than
acceptable results for negatives and transparencies, at a fraction of the cost of a
dedicated machine. It's a pity all support for it was removed after Windows XP.


Nice scanner.
A virtual XP machine might work but you will need to have 7/Pro.
Afaik, 7/Home does not do virtual.

  #12  
Old January 22nd 17, 11:00 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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In message , jbm writes:
On 21/01/2017 10:19, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

[]
Is this two scanners in one - a normal A4 (or legal) flatbed, and a
smaller one for prints? Or is the "photo scanning" aspect just a way of
using the main scanner but at a higher resolution (or something, though
if only software that can presumably be done afterwards)?


In outward appearances, it is a standard flat-bed scanner. However, it
is possible to remove the white back plate above the scanning window,
which reveals a built in light source that will shine through any
negatives or transparencies placed on the platen. Canon provide film

[]
Thanks for the explanation. I think I have looked at it (or similar) at
times; I tended to dismiss them as just a gimmick on what is basically a
flatbed scanner. I hadn't realised they did higher resolution for the
negatives. (Though, unless - which seems unlikely - the scanning head
has extra sensors in just a middle stripe, _presumably_ the higher
resolution, theoretically, should be accessible for full-width material
too, though rarely _required_ for that.)
[]
VueScan says it works with 8000F Canon.
http://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/canon_8000f.html.


32-bit maybe, but not 64-bit.

Really? That is disappointing. I've just looked at the above page, and -
though, puzzlingly, in pale grey under the button for "download XP
version" - they say it works on Windows 10, 8, and 7; if it's only
32-bit, they are being decidedly disingenuous. (I suspect W10-32 is a
rare beast.)

But... It's $40 for the home version. Almost as much as a new scanner.
I use v.9.4.32 with my old XP3 HP 7400c on W7/64.

[]
I have never found a 64-bit generic scanner driver, at least not one
that would run the 8000F in basic flat-bed mode. And I've looked all
over the place.

jim


I'd thought VueScan was close to being such, just not a free one, though
admit I'd not looked at it for a couple of years until today.
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so that the vendors can "serve you better". As if you were a tennis ball, I
guess. - Wolf K, in alt.windows7.general, 2014-7-21
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Old January 22nd 17, 02:41 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

(I suspect W10-32 is a rare beast.)


The media is available, and this might be a situation
where you'd use it.

If you select the 32 bit version, all you're doing, is cutting
yourself off from Adobe Creative Cloud rental software (which
is 64 bit only). Not a big loss :-/

If you have a "small machine", where Intel limited the RAM
you could add to the processor, the 32 bit version might be
a good fit.

Paul
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Old January 22nd 17, 03:22 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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In message , Paul
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

(I suspect W10-32 is a rare beast.)


The media is available, and this might be a situation
where you'd use it.

If you select the 32 bit version, all you're doing, is cutting
yourself off from Adobe Creative Cloud rental software (which
is 64 bit only). Not a big loss :-/

If you have a "small machine", where Intel limited the RAM
you could add to the processor, the 32 bit version might be
a good fit.

Paul


Oh, not denying that it exists and has its uses, just I suspect not many
- because I suspect most of the users who have older more limited
hardware, and want to keep it going, probably won't be wanting to run
W10 on it at all. I suspect the "typical" W10 user won't be an
old-hardware enthusiast.

The bit before the line above, I was saying I'm surprised VueScan only
support 32-bit, if that indeed is the case, since the page someone
posted a link to says it runs on 7, 8, and 10, and doesn't seem to
mention bitnesses.
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Old January 22nd 17, 05:43 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Sun, 22 Jan 2017 10:00:47 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:


Really? That is disappointing. I've just looked at the above page, and -
though, puzzlingly, in pale grey under the button for "download XP
version" - they say it works on Windows 10, 8, and 7; if it's only
32-bit, they are being decidedly disingenuous. (I suspect W10-32 is a
rare beast.)



And getting rare all the time. 32-bit computer are fast disappearing,
and it won't be long before everything is 64-bit (or perhaps even
128-bit).
 




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