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  #1  
Old February 5th 07, 12:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax
Johnnie
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Posts: 12
Default Computer does not recognize printer attached to another computer

In trying to setup a printer on MOM's computer within the workgroup (MSHOME),
the computer does not see the printer that's attached to DAD's computer. The
structure shows this:
- Microsoft Network Group
- DAD
- MOM
I'm expecting to see a printer under DAD that I could use, but there's no
printer name. Could anyone shed some solution?
Ads
  #2  
Old February 5th 07, 03:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax
Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]
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Posts: 45
Default Computer does not recognize printer attached to another computer

Are these both Windows XP?

if MOM can see both DAD and MOM in Network Places, you already did the hard
part. The printer should be listed in a Printers and Faxes folder in the DAD
folder. It is not?

On DAD, open Printers and Faxes, right-click on the printer and choose
Properties. What does it say on the Sharing page?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
In trying to setup a printer on MOM's computer within the workgroup
(MSHOME),
the computer does not see the printer that's attached to DAD's computer.
The
structure shows this:
- Microsoft Network Group
- DAD
- MOM
I'm expecting to see a printer under DAD that I could use, but there's no
printer name. Could anyone shed some solution?



  #3  
Old February 5th 07, 05:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax
Johnnie
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Posts: 12
Default Computer does not recognize printer attached to another comput

DAD's is running XP Prof, MOM's has XP Home.
DAD's printer sharing is on, has the shared hand. Printer's name=Brother.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

Are these both Windows XP?

if MOM can see both DAD and MOM in Network Places, you already did the hard
part. The printer should be listed in a Printers and Faxes folder in the DAD
folder. It is not?

On DAD, open Printers and Faxes, right-click on the printer and choose
Properties. What does it say on the Sharing page?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
In trying to setup a printer on MOM's computer within the workgroup
(MSHOME),
the computer does not see the printer that's attached to DAD's computer.
The
structure shows this:
- Microsoft Network Group
- DAD
- MOM
I'm expecting to see a printer under DAD that I could use, but there's no
printer name. Could anyone shed some solution?




  #4  
Old February 5th 07, 05:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax
Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]
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Posts: 45
Default Computer does not recognize printer attached to another comput

There are a few things you can try, which I list in order.

I would proceed as follows. After each change, test it. If it fails, reboot
both machines and test it again. If it still fails, move on to the next
step. If it succeeds, take note of which step fixed it for the benefit of
others that may be in a similar situation.

1. Make sure that sharing is on, on DAD. The easiest way to do this is to
use the Network Connection Wizard in All Programs Accessories
Communication.
2. Make sure that sharing is on, on MOM.
3. You may need to enable the Guest account on DAD, if there are accounts
with no password protection. You can do this using Start Control Panel
User Accounts User Accounts. Was it already enabled or disabled?
4. You may need to enable the Guest account on MOM. Was it already enabled
or disabled?

If it still does not work, which firewall, antivirus or antispyware software
do you have, and do you have any hardware that could be interfering, eg. a
router?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
DAD's is running XP Prof, MOM's has XP Home.
DAD's printer sharing is on, has the shared hand. Printer's name=Brother.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

Are these both Windows XP?

if MOM can see both DAD and MOM in Network Places, you already did the
hard
part. The printer should be listed in a Printers and Faxes folder in the
DAD
folder. It is not?

On DAD, open Printers and Faxes, right-click on the printer and choose
Properties. What does it say on the Sharing page?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
In trying to setup a printer on MOM's computer within the workgroup
(MSHOME),
the computer does not see the printer that's attached to DAD's
computer.
The
structure shows this:
- Microsoft Network Group
- DAD
- MOM
I'm expecting to see a printer under DAD that I could use, but there's
no
printer name. Could anyone shed some solution?






  #5  
Old February 6th 07, 04:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax
Johnnie
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Posts: 12
Default Computer does not recognize printer attached to another comput

Paul,
1. Sharing in ON both on DAD's and MOM's.
2. I enabled the Guest accounts on both.
3. Still does not work, I have Symantec firewall and antivirus, but the
firewall allows file and print sharing.
4. MOM's computer can see the shared documents on DAD's (but not the
printer), but when I try to open, an error comes up, something to do with
access permission.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

There are a few things you can try, which I list in order.

I would proceed as follows. After each change, test it. If it fails, reboot
both machines and test it again. If it still fails, move on to the next
step. If it succeeds, take note of which step fixed it for the benefit of
others that may be in a similar situation.

1. Make sure that sharing is on, on DAD. The easiest way to do this is to
use the Network Connection Wizard in All Programs Accessories
Communication.
2. Make sure that sharing is on, on MOM.
3. You may need to enable the Guest account on DAD, if there are accounts
with no password protection. You can do this using Start Control Panel
User Accounts User Accounts. Was it already enabled or disabled?
4. You may need to enable the Guest account on MOM. Was it already enabled
or disabled?

If it still does not work, which firewall, antivirus or antispyware software
do you have, and do you have any hardware that could be interfering, eg. a
router?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
DAD's is running XP Prof, MOM's has XP Home.
DAD's printer sharing is on, has the shared hand. Printer's name=Brother.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

Are these both Windows XP?

if MOM can see both DAD and MOM in Network Places, you already did the
hard
part. The printer should be listed in a Printers and Faxes folder in the
DAD
folder. It is not?

On DAD, open Printers and Faxes, right-click on the printer and choose
Properties. What does it say on the Sharing page?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
In trying to setup a printer on MOM's computer within the workgroup
(MSHOME),
the computer does not see the printer that's attached to DAD's
computer.
The
structure shows this:
- Microsoft Network Group
- DAD
- MOM
I'm expecting to see a printer under DAD that I could use, but there's
no
printer name. Could anyone shed some solution?






  #6  
Old February 6th 07, 05:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax
Alan Morris [MSFT]
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Posts: 783
Default Computer does not recognize printer attached to another comput

Is the Everyone group on the printer security tab? Turn off Simple File
sharing to see this tab on Pro. I do not think this is viewable on Home.

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
Paul,
1. Sharing in ON both on DAD's and MOM's.
2. I enabled the Guest accounts on both.
3. Still does not work, I have Symantec firewall and antivirus, but the
firewall allows file and print sharing.
4. MOM's computer can see the shared documents on DAD's (but not the
printer), but when I try to open, an error comes up, something to do with
access permission.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

There are a few things you can try, which I list in order.

I would proceed as follows. After each change, test it. If it fails,
reboot
both machines and test it again. If it still fails, move on to the next
step. If it succeeds, take note of which step fixed it for the benefit of
others that may be in a similar situation.

1. Make sure that sharing is on, on DAD. The easiest way to do this is to
use the Network Connection Wizard in All Programs Accessories
Communication.
2. Make sure that sharing is on, on MOM.
3. You may need to enable the Guest account on DAD, if there are accounts
with no password protection. You can do this using Start Control Panel

User Accounts User Accounts. Was it already enabled or disabled?
4. You may need to enable the Guest account on MOM. Was it already
enabled
or disabled?

If it still does not work, which firewall, antivirus or antispyware
software
do you have, and do you have any hardware that could be interfering, eg.
a
router?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
DAD's is running XP Prof, MOM's has XP Home.
DAD's printer sharing is on, has the shared hand. Printer's
name=Brother.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

Are these both Windows XP?

if MOM can see both DAD and MOM in Network Places, you already did the
hard
part. The printer should be listed in a Printers and Faxes folder in
the
DAD
folder. It is not?

On DAD, open Printers and Faxes, right-click on the printer and choose
Properties. What does it say on the Sharing page?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
In trying to setup a printer on MOM's computer within the workgroup
(MSHOME),
the computer does not see the printer that's attached to DAD's
computer.
The
structure shows this:
- Microsoft Network Group
- DAD
- MOM
I'm expecting to see a printer under DAD that I could use, but
there's
no
printer name. Could anyone shed some solution?








  #7  
Old February 6th 07, 06:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax
Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]
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Posts: 45
Default Computer does not recognize printer attached to another comput

Alun,

Shouldn't it show any shared printers on DAD in the My Network
Places\DAD\Printers and Faxes folder on MOM, regardless of permissions?

Johnnie, is it even showing you the Printers and Faxes folder? If not, the
problem could merely be that this shell extension became unregistered and
you can try adding it a different way. You can use the Add Printer Wizard
and browse for a network printer.

A colleague of mine was convinced that Windows XP Home Edition does not have
permissions, by which he meant file and folder DACLs. He came to this belief
because they are not visible in the UI, as you say. For the benefits of
those with the same misconception - yes, it does have DACLs. As I
discovered, you can view them with the SUBINACL Platform SDK tool.

Paul

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote in message
...
Is the Everyone group on the printer security tab? Turn off Simple File
sharing to see this tab on Pro. I do not think this is viewable on Home.

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
Paul,
1. Sharing in ON both on DAD's and MOM's.
2. I enabled the Guest accounts on both.
3. Still does not work, I have Symantec firewall and antivirus, but the
firewall allows file and print sharing.
4. MOM's computer can see the shared documents on DAD's (but not the
printer), but when I try to open, an error comes up, something to do with
access permission.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

There are a few things you can try, which I list in order.

I would proceed as follows. After each change, test it. If it fails,
reboot
both machines and test it again. If it still fails, move on to the next
step. If it succeeds, take note of which step fixed it for the benefit
of
others that may be in a similar situation.

1. Make sure that sharing is on, on DAD. The easiest way to do this is
to
use the Network Connection Wizard in All Programs Accessories
Communication.
2. Make sure that sharing is on, on MOM.
3. You may need to enable the Guest account on DAD, if there are
accounts
with no password protection. You can do this using Start Control Panel

User Accounts User Accounts. Was it already enabled or disabled?
4. You may need to enable the Guest account on MOM. Was it already
enabled
or disabled?

If it still does not work, which firewall, antivirus or antispyware
software
do you have, and do you have any hardware that could be interfering, eg.
a
router?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
DAD's is running XP Prof, MOM's has XP Home.
DAD's printer sharing is on, has the shared hand. Printer's
name=Brother.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

Are these both Windows XP?

if MOM can see both DAD and MOM in Network Places, you already did
the
hard
part. The printer should be listed in a Printers and Faxes folder in
the
DAD
folder. It is not?

On DAD, open Printers and Faxes, right-click on the printer and
choose
Properties. What does it say on the Sharing page?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
In trying to setup a printer on MOM's computer within the workgroup
(MSHOME),
the computer does not see the printer that's attached to DAD's
computer.
The
structure shows this:
- Microsoft Network Group
- DAD
- MOM
I'm expecting to see a printer under DAD that I could use, but
there's
no
printer name. Could anyone shed some solution?










  #8  
Old February 6th 07, 10:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax
Johnnie
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Posts: 12
Default Computer does not recognize printer attached to another comput

Paul,
Yes, I can see the Printers and Faxes folder in MOM's, under Control Panel.
And yes, I've been trying to use the Add Printer wizard which allows you to
see the printer that's available in the network, but to no avail. I see DAD
on MOM's computer but not the printer.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

Alun,

Shouldn't it show any shared printers on DAD in the My Network
Places\DAD\Printers and Faxes folder on MOM, regardless of permissions?

Johnnie, is it even showing you the Printers and Faxes folder? If not, the
problem could merely be that this shell extension became unregistered and
you can try adding it a different way. You can use the Add Printer Wizard
and browse for a network printer.

A colleague of mine was convinced that Windows XP Home Edition does not have
permissions, by which he meant file and folder DACLs. He came to this belief
because they are not visible in the UI, as you say. For the benefits of
those with the same misconception - yes, it does have DACLs. As I
discovered, you can view them with the SUBINACL Platform SDK tool.

Paul

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote in message
...
Is the Everyone group on the printer security tab? Turn off Simple File
sharing to see this tab on Pro. I do not think this is viewable on Home.

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
Paul,
1. Sharing in ON both on DAD's and MOM's.
2. I enabled the Guest accounts on both.
3. Still does not work, I have Symantec firewall and antivirus, but the
firewall allows file and print sharing.
4. MOM's computer can see the shared documents on DAD's (but not the
printer), but when I try to open, an error comes up, something to do with
access permission.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

There are a few things you can try, which I list in order.

I would proceed as follows. After each change, test it. If it fails,
reboot
both machines and test it again. If it still fails, move on to the next
step. If it succeeds, take note of which step fixed it for the benefit
of
others that may be in a similar situation.

1. Make sure that sharing is on, on DAD. The easiest way to do this is
to
use the Network Connection Wizard in All Programs Accessories
Communication.
2. Make sure that sharing is on, on MOM.
3. You may need to enable the Guest account on DAD, if there are
accounts
with no password protection. You can do this using Start Control Panel

User Accounts User Accounts. Was it already enabled or disabled?
4. You may need to enable the Guest account on MOM. Was it already
enabled
or disabled?

If it still does not work, which firewall, antivirus or antispyware
software
do you have, and do you have any hardware that could be interfering, eg.
a
router?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
DAD's is running XP Prof, MOM's has XP Home.
DAD's printer sharing is on, has the shared hand. Printer's
name=Brother.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

Are these both Windows XP?

if MOM can see both DAD and MOM in Network Places, you already did
the
hard
part. The printer should be listed in a Printers and Faxes folder in
the
DAD
folder. It is not?

On DAD, open Printers and Faxes, right-click on the printer and
choose
Properties. What does it say on the Sharing page?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
In trying to setup a printer on MOM's computer within the workgroup
(MSHOME),
the computer does not see the printer that's attached to DAD's
computer.
The
structure shows this:
- Microsoft Network Group
- DAD
- MOM
I'm expecting to see a printer under DAD that I could use, but
there's
no
printer name. Could anyone shed some solution?











  #9  
Old February 6th 07, 10:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax
Johnnie
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Posts: 12
Default Computer does not recognize printer attached to another comput

Alan,
Yes, the group 'Everyone' shows on DAD's printer security tab. On MOM's it
doesn't show since I don't have a printer yet that could show the security
tab.

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

Is the Everyone group on the printer security tab? Turn off Simple File
sharing to see this tab on Pro. I do not think this is viewable on Home.

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
Paul,
1. Sharing in ON both on DAD's and MOM's.
2. I enabled the Guest accounts on both.
3. Still does not work, I have Symantec firewall and antivirus, but the
firewall allows file and print sharing.
4. MOM's computer can see the shared documents on DAD's (but not the
printer), but when I try to open, an error comes up, something to do with
access permission.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

There are a few things you can try, which I list in order.

I would proceed as follows. After each change, test it. If it fails,
reboot
both machines and test it again. If it still fails, move on to the next
step. If it succeeds, take note of which step fixed it for the benefit of
others that may be in a similar situation.

1. Make sure that sharing is on, on DAD. The easiest way to do this is to
use the Network Connection Wizard in All Programs Accessories
Communication.
2. Make sure that sharing is on, on MOM.
3. You may need to enable the Guest account on DAD, if there are accounts
with no password protection. You can do this using Start Control Panel

User Accounts User Accounts. Was it already enabled or disabled?
4. You may need to enable the Guest account on MOM. Was it already
enabled
or disabled?

If it still does not work, which firewall, antivirus or antispyware
software
do you have, and do you have any hardware that could be interfering, eg.
a
router?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
DAD's is running XP Prof, MOM's has XP Home.
DAD's printer sharing is on, has the shared hand. Printer's
name=Brother.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

Are these both Windows XP?

if MOM can see both DAD and MOM in Network Places, you already did the
hard
part. The printer should be listed in a Printers and Faxes folder in
the
DAD
folder. It is not?

On DAD, open Printers and Faxes, right-click on the printer and choose
Properties. What does it say on the Sharing page?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
In trying to setup a printer on MOM's computer within the workgroup
(MSHOME),
the computer does not see the printer that's attached to DAD's
computer.
The
structure shows this:
- Microsoft Network Group
- DAD
- MOM
I'm expecting to see a printer under DAD that I could use, but
there's
no
printer name. Could anyone shed some solution?









  #10  
Old February 6th 07, 10:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax
Johnnie
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Posts: 12
Default Computer does not recognize printer attached to another comput

Alan, Paul,

Looks like I have the same problem as JO as written in one of the other
posts titled "New Printer problem--Help please!" I'm reading the posts and
I'm in the same situation.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

Alun,

Shouldn't it show any shared printers on DAD in the My Network
Places\DAD\Printers and Faxes folder on MOM, regardless of permissions?

Johnnie, is it even showing you the Printers and Faxes folder? If not, the
problem could merely be that this shell extension became unregistered and
you can try adding it a different way. You can use the Add Printer Wizard
and browse for a network printer.

A colleague of mine was convinced that Windows XP Home Edition does not have
permissions, by which he meant file and folder DACLs. He came to this belief
because they are not visible in the UI, as you say. For the benefits of
those with the same misconception - yes, it does have DACLs. As I
discovered, you can view them with the SUBINACL Platform SDK tool.

Paul

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote in message
...
Is the Everyone group on the printer security tab? Turn off Simple File
sharing to see this tab on Pro. I do not think this is viewable on Home.

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
Paul,
1. Sharing in ON both on DAD's and MOM's.
2. I enabled the Guest accounts on both.
3. Still does not work, I have Symantec firewall and antivirus, but the
firewall allows file and print sharing.
4. MOM's computer can see the shared documents on DAD's (but not the
printer), but when I try to open, an error comes up, something to do with
access permission.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

There are a few things you can try, which I list in order.

I would proceed as follows. After each change, test it. If it fails,
reboot
both machines and test it again. If it still fails, move on to the next
step. If it succeeds, take note of which step fixed it for the benefit
of
others that may be in a similar situation.

1. Make sure that sharing is on, on DAD. The easiest way to do this is
to
use the Network Connection Wizard in All Programs Accessories
Communication.
2. Make sure that sharing is on, on MOM.
3. You may need to enable the Guest account on DAD, if there are
accounts
with no password protection. You can do this using Start Control Panel

User Accounts User Accounts. Was it already enabled or disabled?
4. You may need to enable the Guest account on MOM. Was it already
enabled
or disabled?

If it still does not work, which firewall, antivirus or antispyware
software
do you have, and do you have any hardware that could be interfering, eg.
a
router?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
DAD's is running XP Prof, MOM's has XP Home.
DAD's printer sharing is on, has the shared hand. Printer's
name=Brother.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

Are these both Windows XP?

if MOM can see both DAD and MOM in Network Places, you already did
the
hard
part. The printer should be listed in a Printers and Faxes folder in
the
DAD
folder. It is not?

On DAD, open Printers and Faxes, right-click on the printer and
choose
Properties. What does it say on the Sharing page?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
In trying to setup a printer on MOM's computer within the workgroup
(MSHOME),
the computer does not see the printer that's attached to DAD's
computer.
The
structure shows this:
- Microsoft Network Group
- DAD
- MOM
I'm expecting to see a printer under DAD that I could use, but
there's
no
printer name. Could anyone shed some solution?











  #11  
Old February 7th 07, 02:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax
Alan Morris [MSFT]
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Posts: 783
Default Computer does not recognize printer attached to another comput

That's as expected

What are the network print provider order on MOM?

Control Panel, Network Connections, Advanced (up on the top menu bar),
Advanced Settings, Provider order
LanMan Print Services should be the first in the list

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
Alan,
Yes, the group 'Everyone' shows on DAD's printer security tab. On MOM's
it
doesn't show since I don't have a printer yet that could show the security
tab.

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

Is the Everyone group on the printer security tab? Turn off Simple File
sharing to see this tab on Pro. I do not think this is viewable on Home.

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
Paul,
1. Sharing in ON both on DAD's and MOM's.
2. I enabled the Guest accounts on both.
3. Still does not work, I have Symantec firewall and antivirus, but
the
firewall allows file and print sharing.
4. MOM's computer can see the shared documents on DAD's (but not the
printer), but when I try to open, an error comes up, something to do
with
access permission.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

There are a few things you can try, which I list in order.

I would proceed as follows. After each change, test it. If it fails,
reboot
both machines and test it again. If it still fails, move on to the
next
step. If it succeeds, take note of which step fixed it for the benefit
of
others that may be in a similar situation.

1. Make sure that sharing is on, on DAD. The easiest way to do this is
to
use the Network Connection Wizard in All Programs Accessories
Communication.
2. Make sure that sharing is on, on MOM.
3. You may need to enable the Guest account on DAD, if there are
accounts
with no password protection. You can do this using Start Control
Panel

User Accounts User Accounts. Was it already enabled or disabled?
4. You may need to enable the Guest account on MOM. Was it already
enabled
or disabled?

If it still does not work, which firewall, antivirus or antispyware
software
do you have, and do you have any hardware that could be interfering,
eg.
a
router?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
DAD's is running XP Prof, MOM's has XP Home.
DAD's printer sharing is on, has the shared hand. Printer's
name=Brother.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

Are these both Windows XP?

if MOM can see both DAD and MOM in Network Places, you already did
the
hard
part. The printer should be listed in a Printers and Faxes folder
in
the
DAD
folder. It is not?

On DAD, open Printers and Faxes, right-click on the printer and
choose
Properties. What does it say on the Sharing page?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
In trying to setup a printer on MOM's computer within the
workgroup
(MSHOME),
the computer does not see the printer that's attached to DAD's
computer.
The
structure shows this:
- Microsoft Network Group
- DAD
- MOM
I'm expecting to see a printer under DAD that I could use, but
there's
no
printer name. Could anyone shed some solution?











  #12  
Old February 7th 07, 02:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax
Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]
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Posts: 45
Default Computer does not recognize printer attached to another comput

Alan,

Actually, I think it should show all shared printers in My Network
Places\...\DAD, regardless of permission.

The Printers and Faxes folder is for remote administration of locally
installed printers, I think.

I apologize for any confusion caused.

Paul

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]"
wrote in message ...
Alun,

Shouldn't it show any shared printers on DAD in the My Network
Places\DAD\Printers and Faxes folder on MOM, regardless of permissions?

Johnnie, is it even showing you the Printers and Faxes folder? If not, the
problem could merely be that this shell extension became unregistered and
you can try adding it a different way. You can use the Add Printer Wizard
and browse for a network printer.

A colleague of mine was convinced that Windows XP Home Edition does not
have permissions, by which he meant file and folder DACLs. He came to this
belief because they are not visible in the UI, as you say. For the
benefits of those with the same misconception - yes, it does have DACLs.
As I discovered, you can view them with the SUBINACL Platform SDK tool.

Paul

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote in message
...
Is the Everyone group on the printer security tab? Turn off Simple File
sharing to see this tab on Pro. I do not think this is viewable on Home.

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
Paul,
1. Sharing in ON both on DAD's and MOM's.
2. I enabled the Guest accounts on both.
3. Still does not work, I have Symantec firewall and antivirus, but the
firewall allows file and print sharing.
4. MOM's computer can see the shared documents on DAD's (but not the
printer), but when I try to open, an error comes up, something to do
with
access permission.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

There are a few things you can try, which I list in order.

I would proceed as follows. After each change, test it. If it fails,
reboot
both machines and test it again. If it still fails, move on to the next
step. If it succeeds, take note of which step fixed it for the benefit
of
others that may be in a similar situation.

1. Make sure that sharing is on, on DAD. The easiest way to do this is
to
use the Network Connection Wizard in All Programs Accessories
Communication.
2. Make sure that sharing is on, on MOM.
3. You may need to enable the Guest account on DAD, if there are
accounts
with no password protection. You can do this using Start Control
Panel
User Accounts User Accounts. Was it already enabled or disabled?
4. You may need to enable the Guest account on MOM. Was it already
enabled
or disabled?

If it still does not work, which firewall, antivirus or antispyware
software
do you have, and do you have any hardware that could be interfering,
eg. a
router?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
DAD's is running XP Prof, MOM's has XP Home.
DAD's printer sharing is on, has the shared hand. Printer's
name=Brother.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

Are these both Windows XP?

if MOM can see both DAD and MOM in Network Places, you already did
the
hard
part. The printer should be listed in a Printers and Faxes folder in
the
DAD
folder. It is not?

On DAD, open Printers and Faxes, right-click on the printer and
choose
Properties. What does it say on the Sharing page?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
In trying to setup a printer on MOM's computer within the
workgroup
(MSHOME),
the computer does not see the printer that's attached to DAD's
computer.
The
structure shows this:
- Microsoft Network Group
- DAD
- MOM
I'm expecting to see a printer under DAD that I could use, but
there's
no
printer name. Could anyone shed some solution?












  #13  
Old February 7th 07, 05:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax
Johnnie
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 12
Default Computer does not recognize printer attached to another comput

Alan,

Yes, the first in the list is LanMan Print Services.

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

That's as expected

What are the network print provider order on MOM?

Control Panel, Network Connections, Advanced (up on the top menu bar),
Advanced Settings, Provider order
LanMan Print Services should be the first in the list

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
Alan,
Yes, the group 'Everyone' shows on DAD's printer security tab. On MOM's
it
doesn't show since I don't have a printer yet that could show the security
tab.

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

Is the Everyone group on the printer security tab? Turn off Simple File
sharing to see this tab on Pro. I do not think this is viewable on Home.

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
Paul,
1. Sharing in ON both on DAD's and MOM's.
2. I enabled the Guest accounts on both.
3. Still does not work, I have Symantec firewall and antivirus, but
the
firewall allows file and print sharing.
4. MOM's computer can see the shared documents on DAD's (but not the
printer), but when I try to open, an error comes up, something to do
with
access permission.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

There are a few things you can try, which I list in order.

I would proceed as follows. After each change, test it. If it fails,
reboot
both machines and test it again. If it still fails, move on to the
next
step. If it succeeds, take note of which step fixed it for the benefit
of
others that may be in a similar situation.

1. Make sure that sharing is on, on DAD. The easiest way to do this is
to
use the Network Connection Wizard in All Programs Accessories
Communication.
2. Make sure that sharing is on, on MOM.
3. You may need to enable the Guest account on DAD, if there are
accounts
with no password protection. You can do this using Start Control
Panel

User Accounts User Accounts. Was it already enabled or disabled?
4. You may need to enable the Guest account on MOM. Was it already
enabled
or disabled?

If it still does not work, which firewall, antivirus or antispyware
software
do you have, and do you have any hardware that could be interfering,
eg.
a
router?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
DAD's is running XP Prof, MOM's has XP Home.
DAD's printer sharing is on, has the shared hand. Printer's
name=Brother.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

Are these both Windows XP?

if MOM can see both DAD and MOM in Network Places, you already did
the
hard
part. The printer should be listed in a Printers and Faxes folder
in
the
DAD
folder. It is not?

On DAD, open Printers and Faxes, right-click on the printer and
choose
Properties. What does it say on the Sharing page?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
In trying to setup a printer on MOM's computer within the
workgroup
(MSHOME),
the computer does not see the printer that's attached to DAD's
computer.
The
structure shows this:
- Microsoft Network Group
- DAD
- MOM
I'm expecting to see a printer under DAD that I could use, but
there's
no
printer name. Could anyone shed some solution?












  #14  
Old February 7th 07, 06:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax
Alan Morris [MSFT]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 783
Default Computer does not recognize printer attached to another comput

Is the remote printers folder visible on DAD? If not then the RPC endpoint
is not open to the remote clients.

This setting is supposed to be enabled (and the proper firewall ports
opened) when one shares a printer.

launch gpedit.msc on DAD

Computer, Administrative Templates, Printers
Enable
Allow Print Spooler to accept client connections

stop and start the spooler service or reboot.





--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
Alan,

Yes, the first in the list is LanMan Print Services.

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

That's as expected

What are the network print provider order on MOM?

Control Panel, Network Connections, Advanced (up on the top menu bar),
Advanced Settings, Provider order
LanMan Print Services should be the first in the list

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
Alan,
Yes, the group 'Everyone' shows on DAD's printer security tab. On
MOM's
it
doesn't show since I don't have a printer yet that could show the
security
tab.

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

Is the Everyone group on the printer security tab? Turn off Simple
File
sharing to see this tab on Pro. I do not think this is viewable on
Home.

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
Paul,
1. Sharing in ON both on DAD's and MOM's.
2. I enabled the Guest accounts on both.
3. Still does not work, I have Symantec firewall and antivirus, but
the
firewall allows file and print sharing.
4. MOM's computer can see the shared documents on DAD's (but not
the
printer), but when I try to open, an error comes up, something to do
with
access permission.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

There are a few things you can try, which I list in order.

I would proceed as follows. After each change, test it. If it
fails,
reboot
both machines and test it again. If it still fails, move on to the
next
step. If it succeeds, take note of which step fixed it for the
benefit
of
others that may be in a similar situation.

1. Make sure that sharing is on, on DAD. The easiest way to do this
is
to
use the Network Connection Wizard in All Programs Accessories
Communication.
2. Make sure that sharing is on, on MOM.
3. You may need to enable the Guest account on DAD, if there are
accounts
with no password protection. You can do this using Start Control
Panel

User Accounts User Accounts. Was it already enabled or disabled?
4. You may need to enable the Guest account on MOM. Was it already
enabled
or disabled?

If it still does not work, which firewall, antivirus or antispyware
software
do you have, and do you have any hardware that could be
interfering,
eg.
a
router?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
DAD's is running XP Prof, MOM's has XP Home.
DAD's printer sharing is on, has the shared hand. Printer's
name=Brother.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

Are these both Windows XP?

if MOM can see both DAD and MOM in Network Places, you already
did
the
hard
part. The printer should be listed in a Printers and Faxes
folder
in
the
DAD
folder. It is not?

On DAD, open Printers and Faxes, right-click on the printer and
choose
Properties. What does it say on the Sharing page?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
In trying to setup a printer on MOM's computer within the
workgroup
(MSHOME),
the computer does not see the printer that's attached to DAD's
computer.
The
structure shows this:
- Microsoft Network Group
- DAD
- MOM
I'm expecting to see a printer under DAD that I could use, but
there's
no
printer name. Could anyone shed some solution?














  #15  
Old February 7th 07, 10:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax
Johnnie
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 12
Default Computer does not recognize printer attached to another comput

Alan,
launched gpedit.msc on DAD, enabled allow print spooler to accept client
connections. went to MOM, added printer, still the printer is not visible.

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

Is the remote printers folder visible on DAD? If not then the RPC endpoint
is not open to the remote clients.

This setting is supposed to be enabled (and the proper firewall ports
opened) when one shares a printer.

launch gpedit.msc on DAD

Computer, Administrative Templates, Printers
Enable
Allow Print Spooler to accept client connections

stop and start the spooler service or reboot.





--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
Alan,

Yes, the first in the list is LanMan Print Services.

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

That's as expected

What are the network print provider order on MOM?

Control Panel, Network Connections, Advanced (up on the top menu bar),
Advanced Settings, Provider order
LanMan Print Services should be the first in the list

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
Alan,
Yes, the group 'Everyone' shows on DAD's printer security tab. On
MOM's
it
doesn't show since I don't have a printer yet that could show the
security
tab.

"Alan Morris [MSFT]" wrote:

Is the Everyone group on the printer security tab? Turn off Simple
File
sharing to see this tab on Pro. I do not think this is viewable on
Home.

--
Alan Morris
Windows Printing Team
Search the Microsoft Knowledge Base he
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
Paul,
1. Sharing in ON both on DAD's and MOM's.
2. I enabled the Guest accounts on both.
3. Still does not work, I have Symantec firewall and antivirus, but
the
firewall allows file and print sharing.
4. MOM's computer can see the shared documents on DAD's (but not
the
printer), but when I try to open, an error comes up, something to do
with
access permission.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

There are a few things you can try, which I list in order.

I would proceed as follows. After each change, test it. If it
fails,
reboot
both machines and test it again. If it still fails, move on to the
next
step. If it succeeds, take note of which step fixed it for the
benefit
of
others that may be in a similar situation.

1. Make sure that sharing is on, on DAD. The easiest way to do this
is
to
use the Network Connection Wizard in All Programs Accessories
Communication.
2. Make sure that sharing is on, on MOM.
3. You may need to enable the Guest account on DAD, if there are
accounts
with no password protection. You can do this using Start Control
Panel

User Accounts User Accounts. Was it already enabled or disabled?
4. You may need to enable the Guest account on MOM. Was it already
enabled
or disabled?

If it still does not work, which firewall, antivirus or antispyware
software
do you have, and do you have any hardware that could be
interfering,
eg.
a
router?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
DAD's is running XP Prof, MOM's has XP Home.
DAD's printer sharing is on, has the shared hand. Printer's
name=Brother.

"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" wrote:

Are these both Windows XP?

if MOM can see both DAD and MOM in Network Places, you already
did
the
hard
part. The printer should be listed in a Printers and Faxes
folder
in
the
DAD
folder. It is not?

On DAD, open Printers and Faxes, right-click on the printer and
choose
Properties. What does it say on the Sharing page?

Paul

"Johnnie" wrote in message
...
In trying to setup a printer on MOM's computer within the
workgroup
(MSHOME),
the computer does not see the printer that's attached to DAD's
computer.
The
structure shows this:
- Microsoft Network Group
- DAD
- MOM
I'm expecting to see a printer under DAD that I could use, but
there's
no
printer name. Could anyone shed some solution?















 




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