Now WindowsMail wont work.

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 12:45:53 -0800, relic wrote:

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On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 09:51:04 -0800, relic wrote:

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"Nil" wrote in message
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On 04 Nov 2010, "Valorie *~" wrote in
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MS would support other email software such as Thunderbird, but not
it's own?

They would? When? They don't do it now.


Oh? They don't? We're forced to use WLM or nothing? Here it was
suggested to use Thunderbird and other email clients of one didn't
like
WLM.

Valorie

Take your Meds. You forgot to take this morning.

Because you take meds Peter, don't assume other people need them. ;-)
I
take aspirin for a headache occasionally.


Are you sure it's not Lysergic acid diethylamide instead of
acetylsalicylic
acid?

That's a pretty rye remark...

See ya later, ergot to go now.

A victim of Ergotism? That would explain a lot.

Unless I'm confused (nah, can't happen!), LSD is the psychoactive
ingredient in the ergot fungus. Or is that what you also were saying
(told you I might be confused)?

I was thinking more of her being on some sort of psychedelic trip, but
you're correct about ergot fungus.

On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 16:21:08 -0800, relic wrote:

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 12:45:53 -0800, relic wrote:

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 09:51:04 -0800, relic wrote:

"Valorie *~" wrote in message
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"Peter Foldes" wrote in message
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"Valorie *~" wrote in message
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"Nil" wrote in message
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On 04 Nov 2010, "Valorie *~" wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

MS would support other email software such as Thunderbird, but not
it's own?

They would? When? They don't do it now.


Oh? They don't? We're forced to use WLM or nothing? Here it was
suggested to use Thunderbird and other email clients of one didn't
like
WLM.

Valorie

Take your Meds. You forgot to take this morning.

Because you take meds Peter, don't assume other people need them. ;-)
I
take aspirin for a headache occasionally.


Are you sure it's not Lysergic acid diethylamide instead of
acetylsalicylic
acid?

That's a pretty rye remark...

See ya later, ergot to go now.

A victim of Ergotism? That would explain a lot.

Unless I'm confused (nah, can't happen!), LSD is the psychoactive
ingredient in the ergot fungus. Or is that what you also were saying
(told you I might be confused)?

I was thinking more of her being on some sort of psychedelic trip, but
you're correct about ergot fungus.

I meant both: the trip and the fungus. But mostly, it was an excuse to
make a pun (I am admittedly incorrigible).

The experiences reported are so unremittingly bad where no one else has
that much trouble (in both the depth and breadth of the problems), that
I am beginning to side with those who think we are dealing with a subtle
troll who has caught us hook line and sinker (a bit of mixed metaphor,
sorry).

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

"Bob Hatch" wrote in message
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On 11/6/2010 10:35 PM, Valorie *~ wrote:

"Bob Hatch" wrote in message
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On 11/4/2010 12:14 AM, Valorie *~ wrote:

"Nil" wrote in message
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On 04 Nov 2010, "Valorie *~" wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

MS would support other email software such as Thunderbird, but not
it's own?

They would? When? They don't do it now.


Oh? They don't? We're forced to use WLM or nothing? Here it was
suggested to use Thunderbird and other email clients of one didn't like
WLM.

That's a valid suggestion, but where does it say that MS supports
those other email clients?

That's my point. MS only supports WLM . If someone doesn't like WLM they
have to use an unsupported mail/news reader be it MS Outlook Express on
an old PC or Thunderbird or WindowsMail on Vista.

Are you really this dense?
Microsoft doesn't support any program it doesn't develop. Additionally MS
doesn't support a lot of older programs. Try calling them and getting help
with Windows 98.

Of course it doesn't. I was being sarcastic in that MS wont allow us to use
WindowsMail on W-7 but it's OK to use Thunderbird and other Newsreaders.


MS doesn't support Adobe Photoshop, or Adobe Acrobat, or ACDSee, or
Acornis Backup Software, or Malwarebytes, or AVG, or Qimage, or Garmin
Mapsource Programs, or Adobe Dreamweaver, or Pinnacle Studio, or thousands
of other software programs. Why would you think they would support email
programs they don't write or offer?

Where did you get the idea that Mozilla doesn't support their software?

I don't use WLM, for mail or newsgroups and I get
along quite well. I can even use Outlook Express if I so desire.

So you got Outlook Express to work on W-7, or you have an old XP PC?


OE will work fine if you have Windows 7 Pro. Install the Windows Virtual
Machine, then install XP Mode and OE is there as part of the XP install.
On second thought, I don't think you should try this.

I don't have W-7 Pro. Now how about telling me how to get WM to work on W-7
again?

"Peter Foldes" wrote in message
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Valorie


Several have wondered if there is anyway to use OE (or WinMail in Vista)
in Windows 7.

This page addresses some of the potential means to do so:

http://www.oehelp.com/OEnWin7.aspx

I bookmarked the site. I was going to get OE and some other files off my
old XP PC and turned it on tonight. It wouldn't load. It's been sitting
covered in the office for some time. It wouldn't boot from the Recovery
disks that came with it from HP. I have to take it in to Staples tomorrow
and see if it can be fixed.




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Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
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"Valorie *~" wrote in message
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"Nil" wrote in message

Microsoft only supports their own two or three email programs on their
latest operating system: Microsoft Outlook (recent versions only),
Windows Live Mail, and maybe Windows Mail. If you have problems with
other email programs, tough luck - if that program is currently
supported by it's manufacturer, go to them for help.

We tried a few over the years and never found one we liked better than OE
or WM. Now why doesn't MS support WM on W-7? Why is it set up that WM
will not work on W-7?

Because Microsoft has moved on.

Odd that M$ moves on to inferior products and don't give their sheeple a
choice between inferior WLM and WM or OE.

If you want to use OE then you need Windows7 Proffesional (The dearest
version( that will let you install OE ubder "WinXP Mode"

I wouldn't pay M$ one more dime tword W-7.


I use WLM on two laptops and it works OK for me (Mail and Newsgroups)
Download the Microsoft Window Live Essentials to get WLM working, then go
to "add remove" and get rid of the "Messenger" component.

I already downloaded it after the System Recovery. It came on the W-7
machine, installed by HP. It's very inferior to EO and WM.




The world is littered with old versions of programs that are no longer
supported. The world moves on - deal with it and stop whining.

So as a MS-Head, to you, anyone not happy with a MS product is a
whiner........ I get it now. We're all supposed to shut up and worship
at the feet MS no matter how unsuitable the MS software may be.

IMHO you would be better served to ;
a. Put up with it. or
b. Learn to use an alternate OS and software, that suits your style and
ability
HTH

(BTW it's Explorer, not WE, and I am not a computer expert or geek)

Yeah, but with the people I know we call it WE in text rather than have to
spell out the 2 words when communicating by email. We all know what WE
means.

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"Valorie *~" wrote in message
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"Alias" wrote in message
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On 11/04/2010 04:54 AM, Valorie *~ wrote:
After having WindowsMail work perfectly in W-7, it will not work now
and
gives us this error when we try to open it: "Cannot load MSOE.DLL." W-7
had no trouble loading this DLL before. Come to find out all we get
from
HP are Recovery Disks for "Windows." We cannot reformat the HP and
reinstall the OS to get rid of the problems. Anything else wrong or
problematic stays problematic.

So we can't remove WindowsMail and install a fresh copy. The PC detects
the external modem but now I have no working email client.



Check to see if there's an option in Programs and Characteristics to
repair Windows Mail. Once you're in Programs and Characteristics, click
on Windows Mail and it may offer the option to repair.

There is nothing under programs with that name. There is a "Programs and
Features" but WM is not listed there. Are you sure you don't mean
"Programs and Features?"

There you should find Windows Live Essentials.
Click on it and select uninstall.
You willthen be offered
Repair
Select components to uninstall
Make a chioice, if no good uninstall the lot, re-download Winows Live
Essentilal and start again

If not, use
Thunderbird which will work in Windows 7 (that's where you got the
erroneous idea that MS supports Thunderbird) but it's supported by
Mozilla. http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird

I tried Thunderbird and don't care much for it. I would rather use
WindowsMail.

Aint going to happen unless you buy the most expensive Win7, or go to EBay
and buy a WindowsXP CD.

Maybe, in desperation, I'll try Thunderbird again. :*(

"Alias" wrote in message
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On 11/07/2010 06:57 AM, Valorie *~ wrote:

"Alias" wrote in message
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On 11/04/2010 04:54 AM, Valorie *~ wrote:
After having WindowsMail work perfectly in W-7, it will not work now
and
gives us this error when we try to open it: "Cannot load MSOE.DLL." W-7
had no trouble loading this DLL before. Come to find out all we get
from
HP are Recovery Disks for "Windows." We cannot reformat the HP and
reinstall the OS to get rid of the problems. Anything else wrong or
problematic stays problematic.

So we can't remove WindowsMail and install a fresh copy. The PC detects
the external modem but now I have no working email client.



Check to see if there's an option in Programs and Characteristics to
repair Windows Mail. Once you're in Programs and Characteristics,
click on Windows Mail and it may offer the option to repair.

There is nothing under programs with that name. There is a "Programs and
Features" but WM is not listed there. Are you sure you don't mean
"Programs and Features?"

Probably. My copy of Windows 7 is in Spanish.


If not, use
Thunderbird which will work in Windows 7 (that's where you got the
erroneous idea that MS supports Thunderbird) but it's supported by
Mozilla. http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird

I tried Thunderbird and don't care much for it. I would rather use
WindowsMail.

Thunderbird works. Your Windows Mail doesn't. Once you get used to T-Bird,
you'll like it more than anything MS has produced except, maybe, Outlook.
Perhaps you would be happy with Outlook. You have to pay for it, though.

Outlook has no newsreader feature.


--
Alias

"Lewis" wrote in message
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Nil wrote:
On 07 Nov 2010, "Valorie *~" wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

Notice how silent the MS-heads are on this NG about helping people
who are unhappy with WLM?

You have been given a LOT of alternatives. Your position is, evidently,
that people help you install an unsupported program under windows 7 that
Microsoft has decided, for whatever reason, should not be used under
Windows 7. Despite being told that this is not going to work properly
over and over, you continue to harp on the fact that you WANT it to
work, therefore it must be made to work.

If you are that attached to the previous software, then buy Vista and run
it.


Where have you been? :-))) You can't buy Vista anymore. I called every
place within 50 miles and was told the same thing by every store. MS does
not allow the stores to sell Vista, only W-7 can be carried. Of course I
can take a chance on Ebay but I've heard too many horror stories about
software sold on Ebay.



No, I notice just the opposite.

Her definition of 'help' is 'make the impossible possible for me because
I keep asking for it over and over'.

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cause marvels. Elves are fantastic. They create fantasies. Elves are
glamorous. They project glamour. Elves are enchanting. They weave
enchantment. Elves are terrific. They beget terror.

"Bob Hatch" wrote in message
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On 11/6/2010 11:24 PM, Valorie *~ wrote:

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Valorie *~ wrote:
After having WindowsMail work perfectly in W-7, it will not work now
and
gives us this error when we try to open it: "Cannot load MSOE.DLL." W-7
had no trouble loading this DLL before. Come to find out all we get
from
HP are Recovery Disks for "Windows." We cannot reformat the HP and
reinstall the OS to get rid of the problems. Anything else wrong or
problematic stays problematic.

So we can't remove WindowsMail and install a fresh copy. The PC detects
the external modem but now I have no working email client.



WINDOWS MAIL IS DESIGNED THAT WAY ON PURPOSE IN WINDOWS 7, YOU ARE
SUPPOSED 2 DOWNLOAD WINDOWS LIVE ESSENTIALS INSTEAD, WHICH COMES WITH
BOTH WINDOWS LIVE MESSENGER AND WINDOWS LIVE MAIL, VALERIE! WINDOWS
LIVE MAIL TAKES THE PLACE OF WINDOWS MAIL IN WINDOWS 7, VALERIE!


I know this but I don't want that overfed bloated email software. I want
to continue to use WindowsMail. I don't need or want all those useless
features added to WLM.

How's this stance workin for you so far?

Well, so far I can't find a copy of Vista to have installed in the W-7 PC.
I would like to just get rid of W-7 altogether but buying software from EBay
is chancy. I wouldn't know it were a legal copy either.


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of the President, or that we are to stand by
the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the
American public."
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"Nil" wrote in message
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On 07 Nov 2010, "Valorie *~" wrote in
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I know this but I don't want that overfed bloated email software.
I want to continue to use WindowsMail. I don't need or want all
those useless features added to WLM.

What features are those?

Everything it comes with except email and news.

"Muad'Dib" wrote in message
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On 11/07/2010 12:24 AM, Valorie *~ wrote:

wrote in message
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Valorie *~ wrote:
After having WindowsMail work perfectly in W-7, it will not work now
and
gives us this error when we try to open it: "Cannot load MSOE.DLL." W-7
had no trouble loading this DLL before. Come to find out all we get
from
HP are Recovery Disks for "Windows." We cannot reformat the HP and
reinstall the OS to get rid of the problems. Anything else wrong or
problematic stays problematic.

So we can't remove WindowsMail and install a fresh copy. The PC detects
the external modem but now I have no working email client.



WINDOWS MAIL IS DESIGNED THAT WAY ON PURPOSE IN WINDOWS 7, YOU ARE
SUPPOSED 2 DOWNLOAD WINDOWS LIVE ESSENTIALS INSTEAD, WHICH COMES WITH
BOTH WINDOWS LIVE MESSENGER AND WINDOWS LIVE MAIL, VALERIE! WINDOWS
LIVE MAIL TAKES THE PLACE OF WINDOWS MAIL IN WINDOWS 7, VALERIE!


I know this but I don't want that overfed bloated email software. I want
to continue to use WindowsMail. I don't need or want all those useless
features added to WLM.


Look, if Windows Mail was INTENDED to work with Win7 it would have been
INCLUDED with Win7. So as it WASN'T included with Win7, isn't supported in
that OS, it "ain't" gonna work very well or at all in Win7. How is it so
hard for you to figure that out? Give it up and just either suck-it-up and
install WLM OR a third party SUPERIOR email client, such as THUNDERBIRD,
and get over it. What the hell is the big deal with Windows Mail that was
ONLY designed for Vista and inferior to boot? It's JUST EMAIL, MOVE ON!
..Do something different! But quit bitching about getting Windows Mail
that was designed for Vista ONLY, working reliability in Win7! (Without
tweeks and constant tinkering!) Adapt for Christ's sakes and install a
superior 3rd party email client. Good-God-A-Mighty! Sheesh! You bitch,
whine, and complain about an email client that was NEVER intended for
Win7, so should not be expected to work with it reliably, which obviously
it doesn't. G-I-V-E, I-T, U-P! You want support from not only HP but MS,
for a product that was ONLY intended for Vista, but now forced by you into
Win7. Ya ain't gonna get it, cuz it was NEVER intended for Win7. Get it?
Get it? Get it? If not, please package your computer up in the original
packaging, and send it back from where you got it, as you have NO business
owning one at this point anyway. I know people I have felt were six times
as ignorant as yourself, yet they could still grasp the simple concept
that if the software wasn't designed for the OS they were running, chances
are, it will never work reliably or at all! So what's your excuse?

Tell me why you think insulting people will help? Has it helped you in the
past? All it does it kill these NGs faster than they're dying off by
themselves.


WLM bloated compared to Windows Mail, Outlook?? Really? How so? I use WLM
on 6 machines including in a virtual machine within Linux, and hardly find
it "bloated." Please explain further how it is so bloated, and how it just
doesn't work.(?)

I didn't say it didn't work. I said when there are a lot of email addresses
you can't get them to download into one folder like in OE or WM. I don't
like the interface. I don't like anything about it.

I haven't bothered with Live
Essentials, and if I did, then I could see bloat perhaps, but not with WLM
stand-alone. Nope, you're barking up the wrong tree there.

I didn't see the stand-alone email/news part.


G'day

.

"Valorie *~" wrote in message
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"Lewis" wrote in message
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In message
Nil wrote:
On 07 Nov 2010, "Valorie *~" wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

Notice how silent the MS-heads are on this NG about helping people
who are unhappy with WLM?

You have been given a LOT of alternatives. Your position is, evidently,
that people help you install an unsupported program under windows 7
that
Microsoft has decided, for whatever reason, should not be used under
Windows 7. Despite being told that this is not going to work properly
over and over, you continue to harp on the fact that you WANT it to
work, therefore it must be made to work.

If you are that attached to the previous software, then buy Vista and
run
it.


Where have you been? :-))) You can't buy Vista anymore. I called
every place within 50 miles and was told the same thing by every store.
MS does not allow the stores to sell Vista, only W-7 can be carried. Of
course I can take a chance on Ebay but I've heard too many horror
stories about software sold on Ebay.

MS has nothing to do with it.
Here in Australia you can still buy a lap top from retail stores with
WinXP.
Go to a small computer shop and you can get a PC built with whatever OS
you want.

"Valorie *~" wrote in message
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"Nil" wrote in message
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On 07 Nov 2010, "Valorie *~" wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

I know this but I don't want that overfed bloated email software.
I want to continue to use WindowsMail. I don't need or want all
those useless features added to WLM.

What features are those?

Everything it comes with except email and news.

You can un-install the bits you don't

On 11/07/2010 05:34 AM, Muad'Dib wrote:
On 11/07/2010 12:24 AM, Valorie *~ wrote:

wrote in message
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Valorie *~ wrote:
After having WindowsMail work perfectly in W-7, it will not work now
and
gives us this error when we try to open it: "Cannot load MSOE.DLL." W-7
had no trouble loading this DLL before. Come to find out all we get
from
HP are Recovery Disks for "Windows." We cannot reformat the HP and
reinstall the OS to get rid of the problems. Anything else wrong or
problematic stays problematic.

So we can't remove WindowsMail and install a fresh copy. The PC detects
the external modem but now I have no working email client.



WINDOWS MAIL IS DESIGNED THAT WAY ON PURPOSE IN WINDOWS 7, YOU ARE
SUPPOSED 2 DOWNLOAD WINDOWS LIVE ESSENTIALS INSTEAD, WHICH COMES WITH
BOTH WINDOWS LIVE MESSENGER AND WINDOWS LIVE MAIL, VALERIE! WINDOWS
LIVE MAIL TAKES THE PLACE OF WINDOWS MAIL IN WINDOWS 7, VALERIE!


I know this but I don't want that overfed bloated email software. I want
to continue to use WindowsMail. I don't need or want all those useless
features added to WLM.


Look, if Windows Mail was INTENDED to work with Win7 it would have been
INCLUDED with Win7. So as it WASN'T included with Win7, isn't supported
in that OS, it "ain't" gonna work very well or at all in Win7. How is it
so hard for you to figure that out? Give it up and just either
suck-it-up and install WLM OR a third party SUPERIOR email client, such
as THUNDERBIRD, and get over it. What the hell is the big deal with
Windows Mail that was ONLY designed for Vista and inferior to boot? It's
JUST EMAIL, MOVE ON! ..Do something different! But quit bitching about
getting Windows Mail that was designed for Vista ONLY, working
reliability in Win7! (Without tweeks and constant tinkering!) Adapt for
Christ's sakes and install a superior 3rd party email client.
Good-God-A-Mighty! Sheesh! You bitch, whine, and complain about an email
client that was NEVER intended for Win7, so should not be expected to
work with it reliably, which obviously it doesn't. G-I-V-E, I-T, U-P!
You want support from not only HP but MS, for a product that was ONLY
intended for Vista, but now forced by you into Win7. Ya ain't gonna get
it, cuz it was NEVER intended for Win7. Get it? Get it? Get it? If not,
please package your computer up in the original packaging, and send it
back from where you got it, as you have NO business owning one at this
point anyway. I know people I have felt were six times as ignorant as
yourself, yet they could still grasp the simple concept that if the
software wasn't designed for the OS they were running, chances are, it
will never work reliably or at all! So what's your excuse?

WLM bloated compared to Windows Mail, Outlook?? Really? How so? I use
WLM on 6 machines including in a virtual machine within Linux, and
hardly find it "bloated." Please explain further how it is so bloated,
and how it just doesn't work.(?) I haven't bothered with Live
Essentials, and if I did, then I could see bloat perhaps, but not with
WLM stand-alone. Nope, you're barking up the wrong tree there.

G'day

.

Actually I haven't bothered to read most of your post(s) and post-backs
to me here, as having seen your massive ridicules posts in this news
group, is at best insane. (Valorie *~) As I see it, I'm not only wasting
key-strokes on such ignorance, but as well at my place of business
dealing with complete moronic customers, morons here and there are just
that, MORONS, and cannot be educated no matter how hard one tries. Even
when tying to educate, the morons will argue with the very answer they
are seeking and have received. ..Thus reinforcing their very well
established Moron status. They will call you names, because they are too
stupid, and have no other intelligent recourse. ..Geek, MS-heads and the
like. How sad that YOU are so stupid, and choose to argue with lucid,
and good advice. (or ignore) Shame on you, get outta here and blow-up
you computer, as you have NO business owning one. Win7 is NOT that
complicated. I did the testing all the way through to it's final
release, and NEVER had the alleged problems you report, including up to
today. I strongly feel it is YOUR faults that cause most of your
problems. AGAIN, about the mail bit.. QUIT trying to make Windows Mail
work in Win7! It just wasn't meant to be!! Good God, let it be and move
on.. You remind me of people who haven't been able to accept anything
after Win3.1, or DOS even. Lord-A-Mighty, things change, either grasp it
or not but don't bitch, and quit trying to make something work in Win7,
or ANY other OS, that wasn't meant to work! MOVE ON!

G'day

On 11/9/2010 20:26, Valorie *~ wrote:

"Lewis" wrote in message
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In message
Nil wrote:
On 07 Nov 2010, "Valorie *~" wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

Notice how silent the MS-heads are on this NG about helping people
who are unhappy with WLM?

You have been given a LOT of alternatives. Your position is, evidently,
that people help you install an unsupported program under windows 7 that
Microsoft has decided, for whatever reason, should not be used under
Windows 7. Despite being told that this is not going to work properly
over and over, you continue to harp on the fact that you WANT it to
work, therefore it must be made to work.

If you are that attached to the previous software, then buy Vista and run
it.


Where have you been? :-))) You can't buy Vista anymore. I called every
place within 50 miles and was told the same thing by every store. MS
does not allow the stores to sell Vista, only W-7 can be carried. Of
course I can take a chance on Ebay but I've heard too many horror
stories about software sold on Ebay.


http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Vista-...p_grid_mlt_2_2