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Old July 28th 09, 09:33 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker,microsoft.public.windowsxp.video
ya woist night mayor
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Default which laptop best for video editing and movie making?

I am shopping for a laptop that can be used for camcorder video

Tape based video would ease the requirements on a computer. This is an
option.

The best brands would be HP.
Sony had some quality control and explosion problems about a year
ago.
A Sony desktop will work well for years.
Toshiba is good.
If Dell would be good, what specs should Dell be given?

What amount of storage would be necessary 100-200gb?

If more power is necessary, wouldn't this be in RAM. If more ram is
needed, how much more and which laptop seem to do the job.

Is a graphics card necessary for video editing? Are there any special
or preferable requirements here?

any comments appreciated
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Old July 29th 09, 10:37 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker,microsoft.public.windowsxp.video
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Default which laptop best for video editing and movie making?

Intel mfg pc products would be my choice (not 2nd party),intels products
seem the most stable & durable...Video editing (tv card),try one with
windows media,also,for converting files & recording to the pc,windows
encoder 9 series & its utilities cant be beat..

"ya woist night mayor" wrote:

I am shopping for a laptop that can be used for camcorder video

Tape based video would ease the requirements on a computer. This is an
option.

The best brands would be HP.
Sony had some quality control and explosion problems about a year
ago.
A Sony desktop will work well for years.
Toshiba is good.
If Dell would be good, what specs should Dell be given?

What amount of storage would be necessary 100-200gb?

If more power is necessary, wouldn't this be in RAM. If more ram is
needed, how much more and which laptop seem to do the job.

Is a graphics card necessary for video editing? Are there any special
or preferable requirements here?

any comments appreciated

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Old July 29th 09, 04:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker,microsoft.public.windowsxp.video
Panzy
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Default which laptop best for video editing and movie making?


"Andrew E." wrote in message
...
Intel mfg pc products would be my choice (not 2nd party),intels products
seem the most stable & durable...


You are still blabbering codswallop.
What do you base your claim upon, and in what relation to the OP's question,
and what experiance do you have in making such a preposterous and
meaningless
claim?

Video editing (tv card),try one with


Where does the OP ask of a TV card, and how in a laptop would the OP install
a TV card? The OP specifies "camcorder video"

windows media,also,for converting files & recording to the pc,windows
encoder 9 series & its utilities cant be beat..


Of course it can be beat, it is slaughtered by it's betters...


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Old July 29th 09, 05:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker,microsoft.public.windowsxp.video
Panzy
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Default which laptop best for video editing and movie making?


"ya woist night mayor" wrote in message
...
I am shopping for a laptop that can be used for camcorder video


Do you actually own a camcorder, if so what type - DV, HD, what???

Tape based video would ease the requirements on a computer. This is an
option.


So, you don't actually own a camcorder? But you are thinking of DV, is that
right?

The best brands would be HP.


What makes you think that, the brand name on front panel is meaningless...


Sony had some quality control and explosion problems about a year
ago.


Do you hear voices?

A Sony desktop will work well for years.


You are someone who hasn't got a clue what you are talking about....

Toshiba is good.
If Dell would be good, what specs should Dell be given?


The brands all use same components from a small source of OEM's,
from MoBo's through to screen type, etc.
There is a whole heap of factors to consider, from FSB, connections,
what bloatware will be bundled with your new purchase, RAM, HDD etc


What amount of storage would be necessary 100-200gb?


As much as you can get for your dollar, the more capacity the better!
Also, connections for external storage/back-up etc.
And what are you going to do with your HDD consuming DV-AVI footage
once you have captured it?
DV-AVI (Being the tape format you seem to be considering) is huge in
file size, Windows Movie Maker will capture direct from a Firewire
connected DV cam, but so will almost any video software - Nero, Ulead,
Roxio etc.
Once captured, whatever capture software you use will also have edit
and convert facilities, but WMM is limited, but it is free.
Will you be converting footage to burn to DVD, if so you need software that
will do that and a DVD burner.
You really need to think your question through before posting:
Do you own a camcorder?
What format is it, or what format are you considering?
What do you want to do with captured camcorder footage - create home movies,
upload to websites, flood YouTube???? What?



If more power is necessary, wouldn't this be in RAM. If more ram is
needed, how much more and which laptop seem to do the job.


The more RAM the better, but first you need to grasp the basics of 32 bit
and 64 bit, what and how RAM is utilised etc.
You've posted in XP groups, you are considering a laptop, just get as much
RAM preinstalled for your dollar!

Is a graphics card necessary for video editing?


"a graphics card"? You mean a video card?

Totally unnecessary, a Video card is for playback, also you cannot install a
video card in a laptop, laptops will be equipped with an on-board chipset.


You will note *someone* has pointlessly posted a reply that you require a
TV card and encoder9 series - no you don't, they are totally unconnected to
what you are seeking.


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Old August 1st 09, 03:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker,microsoft.public.windowsxp.video
ya woist night mayor
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Default which laptop best for video editing and movie making?

On Jul 30, 12:32*am, "Panzy" wrote:
"ya woist night mayor" wrote in ...

I am shopping for a laptop that can be used for camcorder video


Do you actually own a camcorder, if so what type - DV, HD, what???

....

Since the laptop and the camcorder will have to be compatible, I am
holding off both acquisitions until my research is complete.

I am thinking of getting the Canon Vixia hv30 because it does not
require such a powerful computer and because there is a lot of editing
software available for it.

Can you reccommend any specific makes of laptop?

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Old August 1st 09, 08:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker,microsoft.public.windowsxp.video
Panzy
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Default which laptop best for video editing and movie making?


"ya woist night mayor" wrote in message
...
....

Since the laptop and the camcorder will have to be compatible, I am
holding off both acquisitions until my research is complete.


I am thinking of getting the Canon Vixia hv30 because it does not
require such a powerful computer and because there is a lot of editing
software available for it.


It is a Hi-Def mini DV camcorder, for transfer of footage to a laptop
will be via the Firewire(ilink) connection, *all* capture software will
grab the content. Also ensure you purchase a laptop with a
firewire connection.
The USB connection is for transfering still shots from the SD card
and the HDMI connection is for connecting directly to a large screen
Hi-Def display.
Why chose that one, and where does it say it "does not require a
powerful computer"? And any footage captured via Firewire will
be recognised by all modern editing software, there is nothing special
about that model that I can discern from the review sites.
Video editing of any kind, but specifically Hi-Def material will be resource
intensive. There is nothing about that Canon that will make it easier.
Once you have recorded to tape, then the Canon's job is done.
It will be transfered to the computer as raw DV-AVI footage, the same
as from any brand of camcorder, there is no such thing as specific software
for a specific Canon camcorder. The comp will be dealing with recorded
footage not the canon.

Can you reccommend any specific makes of laptop?


No, a usenet group is the last place you should seek a recommendation.
We not only don't know your budget, but in usenet you deal with posters
who have no real experiance of hardware, they will only know what
they are posting their reply from, and like yourself, didn't do their
homework.
And you fail to grasp the basics, "Brand" names count for nothing.
All computers use a small coterie of hardware components, - motherboards,
processors, HDD capacity, etc etc. And video editing requires a top spec
laptop.
Your aim should be to get the best for your bucks.
You're a google grouper, so use google to do some homework. Try the
following
search terms in google and do some research:
Laptops for video editing
Top spec laptops
Choosing a laptop




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Old August 2nd 09, 08:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker,microsoft.public.windowsxp.video
ya woist night mayor
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Default which laptop best for video editing and movie making?

On Aug 2, 3:48*am, "Panzy" wrote:
"ya woist night mayor" wrote in messagenews:52a3b824-24ff-4dd1-a339-.
Can you reccommend any specific makes of laptop?


No, a usenet group is the last place you should seek a recommendation.


So panzy you seem to be saying that I should take nothing you say
seriously.
..
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Old August 2nd 09, 07:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker,microsoft.public.windowsxp.video
Panzy
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Default which laptop best for video editing and movie making?


"ya woist night mayor" wrote in message
...
Can you reccommend any specific makes of laptop?


No, a usenet group is the last place you should seek a recommendation.


So panzy you seem to be saying that I should take nothing you say
seriously.

..
What I said you directly qoute as above, but you decided in your own
askew fashion to misinterpret it to suit you.

You want to enter the arena of home video editing.
You want to use a specific Hi-Def Canon mini DV camcorder.
You want to partner it with a laptop.
You seem to think a recommendation from a usenet poster
will solve the issue, it won't, it will be disasterous.

First you need to discern what you are going to do with the
footage once transferred to the laptop. Once edited, will you:

a] Be transferring it back to DV mini tape and using the Canon
as a playback device connected to a large screen Hi-Def display
and using mini DV tapes for archiving?

b] Archiving the footage on the laptop for playback on the laptop
or connecting the laptop to a large screen Hi-Def display if so
you require a vast amount of HDD capacity and a laptop with a
HDMI output.

c] Archiving the edited footage to removeable media such as DVD or
BluRay?

Once you have discerned what you are going to do with the finished
edited footage, you then have to discern how you are going to do it.

Video editing is demanding of any computer.
All firewire equipped computers will recognise the Canon, as well
as any brand of DV camcorder.
You seem to think "Brand" names count for something special -
not so, lets take two brands you seem to have faith in:
Sony and HP.
The mighty Sony is no longer the pioneering stormtrooper it once
was, The legendary Trinitrons huh, those are days long past.
Sony no longer have their own "TV" production lines.
LCD's: There are just 3 main production lines for LCD's.
Sony and Philips bought into the LG group. All Sony's (And Philips)
LCD's are made on the LG production facilities.
Toshiba bought a non-controlling stake in Samsung.
All other notable "brands" also roll off those two production lines -
Sharp, Panny, Hitachi etc etc.
The third notable production line is in China, being the main source of
obscurely named budget brands sold in the likes of Walmart or Tesco's etc.
With computers it is even more pronounced that the "Brand" name on the
front is meaningless.
All will run and depend on one main operating system - Windows
(we won't do the linux debate here)
All will source their motherboards from a small coterie of OEM's.
All will source HDD's again from a small band of OEM's.
All will have processors from one of just two OEM's - AMD or Intel.
Burners: There is indeed still a number of OEM's manufacturing their
own units, Panasonic being notable (but for how much longer?)
But the two you have faith in -Sony and HP?
HP have never made anything, all out sourced, and with burners it
will invariably be a rebadged TSST.corp model (Toshiba Samsung
Storage Technology corporation). With Sony (and Philips) yep, you've
guessed - made on the LG production line.
All computers use components identical to each other, the "Brand"
name is meaningless in this day and age.
You should aim for the best value and top specification for your money.

You want a recommendation, just not possible, so I'll try an *example*
and the reasons why:


This is a potent Asus laptop, Asus being an established and
respected "brand"
http://tinyurl.com/msouqb
Chosen as an *example* because:
It has that all important firewire port for capturing footage from
a DV camcorder - Canon or any other DV cam.
A HDMI output for connecting your laptop to a large screen Hi-Def
display to view your edited footage in full Hi-Def glory.
An efficient processor and plenty of RAM so it won't flinch at
demanding Hi-Def video editing.
An excellent on-board video chipset to display your Hi-Def footage
A reasonable amount of HDD space - but that will be rapidly
consumed with Hi-Def footage that consumes huge amounts of HDD.
But an all important esata port, this will allow the connection of an
external sata drive to increase capacity upto 1.5 tb, but also to add
an external BluRay burner.

But it's not a recommendation, it can only be an example because
you could get an almost identically configured model from:
Toshiba
http://www.toshiba.com/tai/products/laptops/index.html
Or Dell
http://www.dell.co.uk/home/laptops
Or from any mainstream or specialist laptop manufacturer.
They will all use the same processors, the same components
the same operating system etc.
It is for you first to discern what exactly you want to do in home
video production, how you want to do it and what your budget is.

And for gods sake don't read replies from imbeciles making
"recommendations" or anyone who always replies to any post that
the solution is a TV card and encoder9...


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Old August 3rd 09, 12:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker,microsoft.public.windowsxp.video
ya woist night mayor
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On Aug 3, 2:38*am, "Panzy" wrote:
"ya woist night mayor" wrote in ...

You want to enter the arena of home video editing.
You want to use a specific Hi-Def Canon mini DV camcorder.
You want to partner it with a laptop.

First you need to discern what you are going to do with the
footage once transferred to the laptop. Once edited, will you:

a] Be transferring it back to DV mini tape and using the Canon
as a playback device connected to a large screen Hi-Def display
and using mini DV tapes for archiving?

b] Archiving the footage on the laptop for playback on the laptop
or connecting the laptop to a large screen Hi-Def display if so
you require a vast amount of HDD capacity and a laptop with a
HDMI output.

c] Archiving the edited footage to removeable media such as DVD or
BluRay?

In answer to your question, my ultimate goal is to make movies, for
which I regard the camcorder as a beginning course. With the camcorder
and laptop I will edit and store footage. This will then be shown on
web based forums like youtube, and hopefully on tv's. I have no
illusions however that at this stage the technical quality will be
good enough for prime time.

Thank you for rolling out the important specs for a laptop. The reason
I refer to "brands" is because I once bought a toshiba laptop that
performed better than all the desktops I sat at year after year. So I
have great respect for toshiba assuming they have not undergone a
decline like sony. While it is true the same factories (many of them
in Hsinchu, Taiwan) assemble many of these computers, it is also true
that individual companies will apply their own quality control.

What you are suggesting is that a laptop should be judged by features
rather than manufacturer. The specs of the Asus you refer to include
250 gigs of storage and 4 gigs of ram. As you say, the 250 gigs of HDD
will be used up quickly, but perhaps not if I use thumb drives or
other storage media to store completed videos, and just use the HDD
for actual editing.

I mentioned the Canon Vixia HV30 is that my research so far indicates
it will take relatively less capacity than more recent flash memory
camcorders. The price point of the ASUS appears to be about 1000 usd.


This is a potent Asus laptop, Asus being an established and
respected "brand"http://tinyurl.com/msouqb
Chosen as an *example* because:
It has that all important firewire port for capturing footage from
a DV camcorder - Canon or any other DV cam.
A HDMI output for connecting your laptop to a large screen Hi-Def
display to view your edited footage in full Hi-Def glory.
An efficient processor and plenty of RAM so it won't flinch at
demanding Hi-Def video editing.
An excellent on-board video chipset to display your Hi-Def footage
A reasonable amount of HDD space - but that will be rapidly
consumed with Hi-Def footage that consumes huge amounts of HDD.
But an all important esata port, this will allow the connection of an
external sata drive to increase capacity upto 1.5 tb, but also to add
an external BluRay burner.

But it's not a recommendation, it can only be an example because
you could get an almost identically configured model from:
Toshibahttp://www.toshiba.com/tai/products/laptops/index.html
Or Dellhttp://www.dell.co.uk/home/laptops
Or from any mainstream or specialist laptop manufacturer.
They will all use the same processors, the same components
the same operating system etc.
It is for you first to discern what exactly you want to do in home
video production, how you want to do it and what your budget is.

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Old August 8th 09, 03:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.video
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The best laptop suitable for photo and video editing is the one that has
high memory and which enables you with multi tasking. Avoid those with
low processor and netbooks. I'd recommend you laptops with Intel Core 2
Duo processor which is very reliable.


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Old August 13th 09, 10:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.video
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On Aug 8, 10:43*pm, vema123 wrote:
The best laptop suitable for photo and video editing is the one that has
high memory and which enables you with multi tasking. Avoid those with
low processor and netbooks. I'd recommend you laptops with Intel Core 2
Duo processor which is very reliable.


Vema--
thank you for this.
I will definitely get one with Dual Core Processor.
I one with at least 1 Gig RAM as well as at least 200 G storage.
-- YWNM
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Old August 14th 09, 06:11 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.video
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If you have the funds, get a Toshiba Qosmio. they are specifically made for
exactly what you want... and some of them come with Quad Core Intel CPUs.
Be prepared to build those muscles, they are not light. But if you want a
high end gaming/multimedia notebook, they can't be beaten. You get what you
pay for.

Of course, if you buy new now, you'll get a free upgrade to Windows 7 on its
release.
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"ya woist night mayor" wrote in message
...
On Aug 8, 10:43 pm, vema123 wrote:
The best laptop suitable for photo and video editing is the one that has
high memory and which enables you with multi tasking. Avoid those with
low processor and netbooks. I'd recommend you laptops with Intel Core 2
Duo processor which is very reliable.


Vema--
thank you for this.
I will definitely get one with Dual Core Processor.
I one with at least 1 Gig RAM as well as at least 200 G storage.
-- YWNM

 




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