Save Posts

I want to save a post tree to a flash / thumb drive to take to an
off-line laptop to read at my leisure.

I want all subposts too ie.e the whole tree.

How do I do that in Seamonkey ?

I tried Save but that only saves the highlighted post.

I cannot get Archive to do anything.

Latest Seamonkey version on WIn XP Pro laptop.

fasttrack wrote:
I want to save a post tree to a flash / thumb drive to take to an
off-line laptop to read at my leisure.

I want all subposts too ie.e the whole tree.

How do I do that in Seamonkey ?

I tried Save but that only saves the highlighted post.

I cannot get Archive to do anything.

Latest Seamonkey version on WIn XP Pro laptop.

This is called "offline newsreading". And you want
a client that is an "offline newsreader".

First, a comment about geneology. These programs
are related. Thus, I can look in three different places
for inspiration.

Netscape Communicator Suite
Seamonkey (suite)
Thunderbird (mail/news)

You would expect to see some similarities in the interface
and capabilities. Naturally, being forks, there will be
some small areas that received refinement, but for this
question, you might see some common interface elements.

That's why I'm presenting this Thunderbird article.
Take a look and see if Seamonkey is similar...

http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/sao/stu...index.xml.html

"Using Thunderbird for offline news-reading"

File : Offline : Download/Sync Now

But I can't predict what that's going to do to the
size of your .msf folder storage. It might become
bloated, and perhaps permanently.

I think I would save off a copy of the whole profile
before switching modes and syncing, then restore that
more svelte profile when returning from vacation. While
there may be a "compact" function, you really don't know
what that messes up.

While your idea sounds like fun, I'd be worried about the
long term consequences. I have some newsgroup folder files
here, which are 70MB in size, and that's just with headers.
Who knows how big those would be, if every header had a
stored body as well.

The event horizon on the *free* newsservers is small, so if
I synced this group, maybe I'd get 4000 message bodies. A free
newsserver may only have disk space for a couple months of
messages.

If I were to sync Giganews as a provider, I could get
*ten years* worth of messages, and I could be downloading/syncing
for days.

This is a lot like the Sorcerers Apprentice, where
you can easily underestimate what a mess such a
command can make :-) It could be a massive mess, with the
wrong source choice.

Paul

On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:38:07 -0700, fasttrack wrote:

I want to save a post tree to a flash / thumb drive to take to an
off-line laptop to read at my leisure.

I want all subposts too ie.e the whole tree.

How do I do that in Seamonkey ?

I tried Save but that only saves the highlighted post.

I cannot get Archive to do anything.

Latest Seamonkey version on WIn XP Pro laptop.


In SeaMonkey:

1. Create a new folder "Saved_Posts" in Local Folders.
2. Copy the post tree from the newsgroup to the folder "Saved_Posts".
3. Now go to "Edit Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings Local Folders"
and note down the setting for "Local directory". This setting is a
file folder (directory) on your hard drive.

In Windows Explorer (not Internet Explorer):

4. Go to the file folder (directory) from step 3 above.
5. Back up the two files "Saved_Posts" and "Saved_Posts.msf"
which you will find in there.

On your offline laptop:

6. Start up SeaMonkey,
go to "Edit Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings Local Folders"
and note down the setting for "Local directory" on the offline laptop.
This may not be exactly the same as in step 3.
7. Close/exit SeaMonkey, and copy the two files "Saved_Posts" and
"Saved_Posts.msf" into the file folder (directory) from step 6 above.
8. When you start up SeaMonkey, you will have a new folder "Saved_Posts"
in Local Folders, containing those posts.


--
Kind regards
Ralph

On 06/06/2018 08:13, Ralph Fox wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:38:07 -0700, fasttrack wrote:

I want to save a post tree to a flash / thumb drive to take to an
off-line laptop to read at my leisure.

I want all subposts too ie.e the whole tree.

How do I do that in Seamonkey ?

I tried Save but that only saves the highlighted post.

I cannot get Archive to do anything.

Latest Seamonkey version on WIn XP Pro laptop.


In SeaMonkey:

1. Create a new folder "Saved_Posts" in Local Folders.
2. Copy the post tree from the newsgroup to the folder "Saved_Posts".
3. Now go to "Edit Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings Local Folders"
and note down the setting for "Local directory". This setting is a
file folder (directory) on your hard drive.

In Windows Explorer (not Internet Explorer):

4. Go to the file folder (directory) from step 3 above.
5. Back up the two files "Saved_Posts" and "Saved_Posts.msf"
which you will find in there.

On your offline laptop:

6. Start up SeaMonkey,
go to "Edit Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings Local Folders"
and note down the setting for "Local directory" on the offline laptop.
This may not be exactly the same as in step 3.
7. Close/exit SeaMonkey, and copy the two files "Saved_Posts" and
"Saved_Posts.msf" into the file folder (directory) from step 6 above.
8. When you start up SeaMonkey, you will have a new folder "Saved_Posts"
in Local Folders, containing those posts.


An easier approach is to use a portable version of SeaMonkey on a USB
stick or SD card and set it to cache messages locally. Everything is
then in one compact installation which you can plug into and use
interchangeably on your PC or laptop. All done automatically and no need
to save items, copy files, etc.

I have done this for years with Thunderbird on an SD card but I assume
SeaMonkey is much the same.

On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 21:09:59 +0100, MikeS wrote:

An easier approach is to use a portable version of SeaMonkey on a USB
stick or SD card and set it to cache messages locally. Everything is
then in one compact installation which you can plug into and use
interchangeably on your PC or laptop. All done automatically and no need
to save items, copy files, etc.

I have done this for years with Thunderbird on an SD card but I assume
SeaMonkey is much the same.


Here is the link for the OP.
https://portableapps.com/apps/intern...onkey_portable


In my experience, portable Usenet newsreader applications on USB sticks
run considerably slower than the equivalent application on your hard
drive. It is not a problem with the application code; USB sticks
themselves are considerably slower when it comes to updating the
application's database files.

I would still recommend the OP try SeaMonkey Portable and see how
he/she likes it when run from a USB stick.


--
Kind regards
Ralph

Ralph Fox wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 21:09:59 +0100, MikeS wrote:

An easier approach is to use a portable version of SeaMonkey on a USB
stick or SD card and set it to cache messages locally. Everything is
then in one compact installation which you can plug into and use
interchangeably on your PC or laptop. All done automatically and no need
to save items, copy files, etc.

I have done this for years with Thunderbird on an SD card but I assume
SeaMonkey is much the same.


Here is the link for the OP.
https://portableapps.com/apps/intern...onkey_portable


In my experience, portable Usenet newsreader applications on USB sticks
run considerably slower than the equivalent application on your hard
drive. It is not a problem with the application code; USB sticks
themselves are considerably slower when it comes to updating the
application's database files.

I would still recommend the OP try SeaMonkey Portable and see how
he/she likes it when run from a USB stick.

To some extent, it's going to depend on the computer side.
An older machine wouldn't have USB3 on it.

I was checking to see whether an older Sandisk I bought was
still for sale, and happened to see this newer one.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA12K5W43170

read speeds 420MB/s
write speeds 380MB/s

It won't be that fast on small random accesses, but
it'll still be pretty fast. Faster than a hard drive.

The only thing wrong with modern stuff like this, is
it's made with TLC flash chips. And those don't last
forever.

On a USB2 computer, that stick will only do 30MB/sec
to 35MB/sec, because of the bus limit.

Paul

On Thu, 07 Jun 2018 02:51:16 -0400, Paul wrote:
Ralph Fox wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 21:09:59 +0100, MikeS wrote:

An easier approach is to use a portable version of SeaMonkey on a USB
stick or SD card and set it to cache messages locally. Everything is
then in one compact installation which you can plug into and use
interchangeably on your PC or laptop. All done automatically and no need
to save items, copy files, etc.

I have done this for years with Thunderbird on an SD card but I assume
SeaMonkey is much the same.


Here is the link for the OP.
https://portableapps.com/apps/intern...onkey_portable


In my experience, portable Usenet newsreader applications on USB sticks
run considerably slower than the equivalent application on your hard
drive. It is not a problem with the application code; USB sticks
themselves are considerably slower when it comes to updating the
application's database files.

I would still recommend the OP try SeaMonkey Portable and see how
he/she likes it when run from a USB stick.

To some extent, it's going to depend on the computer side.
An older machine wouldn't have USB3 on it.

I was checking to see whether an older Sandisk I bought was
still for sale, and happened to see this newer one.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA12K5W43170

read speeds 420MB/s
write speeds 380MB/s

It won't be that fast on small random accesses, but
it'll still be pretty fast.

I'd be a little wary of trusting the claimed write speeds for
all regular use.

Faster than a hard drive.

Slower than my hard drive, the specs for which a

read speeds 3,200 MB/s
write speeds 1,900 MB/s

sustained write 1,200 MB/s (after device's cache is filled up)


The only thing wrong with modern stuff like this, is
it's made with TLC flash chips. And those don't last
forever.

On a USB2 computer, that stick will only do 30MB/sec
to 35MB/sec, because of the bus limit.


If the Sandisk is used on XP (this is the XP group) then it won't
be getting TRIM commands, and might eventually run out of pre-erased
flash pages. At which point the erase page bottleneck would be
slower than the USB3 bus speed.


--
Kind regards
Ralph