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Old September 3rd 17, 03:25 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general
Keith Nuttle
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On 9/2/2017 9:27 PM, Monty wrote:
On Sat, 2 Sep 2017 18:33:44 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

On 9/2/2017 6:10 PM, Monty wrote:
On Sat, 2 Sep 2017 09:07:48 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2017-09-02 04:19, Peter Moylan wrote:
[...]
Since you mention it ... how do you tell Windows 10 to display filename
extensions in folder listings? My wife has two files itinerary.xlsx and
itinerary.ods, and she's getting confused as to which is which, because
they are both listed as "itinerary". I know how to fix this bug in older
versions of Windows, but Microsoft is now working harder to stop people
from finding things.

Are you saying that Folder Options no longer includes "Hide known
extensions" for you to uncheck?

That option is still available in the Pro version (build 15063.540)
and can be found via:

Settings / enter Folder Options in the search box / File Explorer
Options

In File Explorer Options, select View tab and scan down for
Hide extensions for known file types


In the standard edition Windows 11 Home 1703 15063.54 it is still in
the folder options. I do not have the Pro edition


Thanks for that, Keith. I didn't expect there would be a difference
in that area between Pro and Home.

That was Windows 10. I am retired and I loose track of time ;-)

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Old September 3rd 17, 02:08 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usage.english,alt.windows7.general
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Ken Blake wrote:
On Sat, 2 Sep 2017 17:00:26 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 09/02/2017 03:59 AM, charles wrote:

[snip]

very strange. My Win10 machine shows file extensions . I've never done
anything to alter that.


They're hidden by default.



Yes. As far as I'm concerned, it's a terrible default. Hiding
extensions shouldn't even be an option.


I always fix that liar as one of the first
things to do after installing Windows.




Me too.


Especially because:

1) Windows *relies* on the file extension to control the disposition of
a file.

2) Rename by default selects the portion of the filename *before* the
extension helping to prevent accidentally changing the file extension.

3) So many Windows users are clueless with respect to the role of the
extension and filetype.

4) Hackers have been exploiting the "hide known file extensions" default
for... hmm let's see, maybe 20 years?

Microsoft Security: a true oxymoron.

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  #18  
Old September 3rd 17, 08:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usage.english,alt.windows7.general
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"Jonathan N. Little" wrote in message
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very strange. My Win10 machine shows file extensions . I've never done
anything to alter that.

They're hidden by default.



Yes. As far as I'm concerned, it's a terrible default. Hiding
extensions shouldn't even be an option.

I always fix that liar as one of the first
things to do after installing Windows.


Likewise. Also I turn off the "hide hidden files" option (ie I make them
visible) in case I need to modify/delete one.

And I turn off "tapping" on a laptop with a touchpad, so you have to
left-click. Very often when I need to move the cursor from one side of the
screen to the other, which usually takes several
left-to-right-lift-off-left-to-right movements - and inevitably I will press
slightly too hard during this and end up left-clicking on something.

And I turn off (if it has been turned on) "hide taskbar". I want the
taskbar. I need it. I don't want it hidden - ever.

The tapping and the hidden taskbar are a source of "argument" between my
wife and I: she likes tapping on and she likes her taskbar hidden apart from
for a brief moment when she clicks on it. She finds my PC hard to use
because I have the opposite settings.

I also, if it's going to be my own PC, install Classic Shell on Win 8 and
Win 10 to give me back the proper Start Menu and access to the old-style
Control Panel. Win 8, which has *no* Start Menu, not even a crippled one,
just the Mess of Tiles, is almost unusable. What bozo thought it was a good
idea to make the tiles all the same colour, and keep moving the position of
one relative to another depending in which I use most frequently?



The other thing that gets me is left-handed people who want to swap the
buttons over, rather than using the middle and index fingers of their left
hand instead of their index and middle fingers of their right hand. Just
because they use the opposite hand, why do they need to swap the buttons
round? My mum is left-handed but she can't understand the logic of doing it.

This prompts me to postulate a theory: are left-handed people more
"polarised" than right-handed people. Can right-handers do more unskilled
tasks with their left hand than left-handers can with their right hand? I'm
definitely right-handed (I cannot write at all with my left hand) but I can
pour, stir, and catch a ball with my left hand - anything as long as it
doesn't require very accurate control. In fact I usually pour a kettle of
water with my left hand while stirring my coffee with my right hand, and
likewise for pouring milk from a jug onto my cereal while stirring with my
right hand. I can use a mouse with my left hand (as long as the buttons
haven't been swapped over!) if someone has their mouse on that side of the
keyboard - maybe not *quite* so well, but nearly.

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Old September 3rd 17, 08:56 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usage.english,alt.windows7.general
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On 09/02/2017 06:15 PM, Ken Blake wrote:

[snip]

They're hidden by default.



Yes. As far as I'm concerned, it's a terrible default. Hiding
extensions shouldn't even be an option.


It shouldn't.


I always fix that liar as one of the first
things to do after installing Windows.




Me too.



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Old September 3rd 17, 09:58 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general
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Default Folder Options in Win10 (Was Speak a common spelling errorlist (hints on demand))

On 09/02/2017 05:33 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:

In the standard edition Windows 11 Home 1703 15063.54 it is still in
the folder options. I do not have the Pro edition


Where do you get Windows 11? It is any better than Windows 10?

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Old September 3rd 17, 11:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general
Keith Nuttle
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Default Folder Options in Win10 (Was Speak a common spelling errorlist (hints on demand))

On 9/3/2017 4:58 PM, hah wrote:
On 09/02/2017 05:33 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:

In the standard edition Windows 11 HomeÂ*Â* 1703Â* 15063.54 it is still
in the folder options.Â* I do not have the Pro edition


Where do you get Windows 11? It is any better than Windows 10?

I am special. MS treats me to all of the latest version before even
their developer know about them.


OR

Was it an early symptom of Alzheimer? I will have to see what my
fingers type the next time I try to do that

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Old September 4th 17, 12:15 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usage.english,alt.windows7.general
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On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 20:26:44 +0100, "NY" wrote:



This prompts me to postulate a theory: are left-handed people more
"polarised" than right-handed people. Can right-handers do more unskilled
tasks with their left hand than left-handers can with their right hand?


It is probably the opposite. Lefties /should/ be a bit more versatile
for the simple reason that some tools /require/ the use of the right
hand. So lefties get more practice with the other hand, and practice
matters.

However, it is really hard to get an answer by simple tabulation,
because the definitions of handedness confound the question.

Researchers will look at several questions:
Which hand do you use (or prefer or test better on) for throwing?
for pounding a nail? for precision manipulation, like inserting
many small pegs into small holes? for squeezing? for eating? for
catching? for batting at baseball?

The emphasis is on hands, but they also check -
Which foot do you prefer to kick with?
Which eye do you "sight" with? - I don't remember what else.

Anyway, if you do a few of the things left-handed, you are
apt to be labeled Left-handed. Pragmatically. So, Lefties
are a mixed set from the labeling. Also, "handedness" is
developed in childhood; a subset of the brain-damaged are
apt to remain undifferentiated and clumsy -- and get called
"left-handed" because they often use the left. (One supposition
is that this is the basis of negative associations with the left
hand; who knows?)

IIRC, about half of all Righties are thoroughly Righty -- all tasks.
It seems to be less for Lefties, but, being the smaller category
by far, "Lefty" is more messed up for counting by the few percent
who are "wrongly" categorized, including the brain-damaged-and-
undifferentiated.


A point that I found striking --
A friend who did left-/right-hand research pointed out to me
that the "between subject" differences are typically larger than
the "within subject". That is, you are /almost/ as good -- say,
90 or 95% -- with your non-preferred hand, given some new
task (little practice beforehand). Thus, if B is stronger that A,
it is probably by a larger margin than B's right compared to B's left.
That suggests that there are a few (or no) tasks that one could
not /learn/ to use the other hand for, almost as well as the
preferred. Assuming you have only the usual deficit.

When Ivan Lendl retired from tennis and took up golf, he
switched from a right-handed to a left-handed swing (despite
the need for the less-common clubs). IIRC, famous lefty tennis
star Rafe Nadal started out playing right-handed and was
switched by his coach. - I wonder, for both, if that is a
preference, for tennis, for power over precision.


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  #23  
Old September 4th 17, 05:06 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usage.english,alt.windows7.general
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On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 09:08:10 -0400, "Jonathan N. Little"
wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:
On Sat, 2 Sep 2017 17:00:26 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 09/02/2017 03:59 AM, charles wrote:

[snip]

very strange. My Win10 machine shows file extensions . I've never done
anything to alter that.

They're hidden by default.



Yes. As far as I'm concerned, it's a terrible default. Hiding
extensions shouldn't even be an option.


I always fix that liar as one of the first
things to do after installing Windows.




Me too.


Especially because:

1) Windows *relies* on the file extension to control the disposition of
a file.


That took me some getting used to when I started using Windows,
because it used a different naming pattern to mine. I used .ASC or
..DOC for what Windows calls .TXT

So I still have quite a lot of old files on my computer with names
like FILENAME.TXT, which are formatted wordprocessing files, and ones
that I have saved as FILENAME.DOC where the the formatting has been
converted to Ascii CR/LFs and spaces for importin into Usenet
newsgroups. Some of them were FAQ files to which I gave the extention
..FAQ, but Windows text editors don't recognise them and so won't open
them.

But that means I have quite a lot of files with the same name but
different extensions.


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Old September 5th 17, 12:31 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usage.english,alt.windows7.general
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On 4/9/17 7:15 am, Rich Ulrich wrote:
On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 20:26:44 +0100, "NY" wrote:



This prompts me to postulate a theory: are left-handed people more
"polarised" than right-handed people. Can right-handers do more unskilled
tasks with their left hand than left-handers can with their right hand?


It is probably the opposite. Lefties /should/ be a bit more versatile
for the simple reason that some tools /require/ the use of the right
hand. So lefties get more practice with the other hand, and practice
matters.

However, it is really hard to get an answer by simple tabulation,
because the definitions of handedness confound the question.

Researchers will look at several questions:
Which hand do you use (or prefer or test better on) for throwing?
for pounding a nail? for precision manipulation, like inserting
many small pegs into small holes? for squeezing? for eating? for
catching? for batting at baseball?

The emphasis is on hands, but they also check -
Which foot do you prefer to kick with?
Which eye do you "sight" with? - I don't remember what else.

Anyway, if you do a few of the things left-handed, you are
apt to be labeled Left-handed. Pragmatically. So, Lefties
are a mixed set from the labeling. Also, "handedness" is
developed in childhood; a subset of the brain-damaged are
apt to remain undifferentiated and clumsy -- and get called
"left-handed" because they often use the left. (One supposition
is that this is the basis of negative associations with the left
hand; who knows?)

IIRC, about half of all Righties are thoroughly Righty -- all tasks.
It seems to be less for Lefties, but, being the smaller category
by far, "Lefty" is more messed up for counting by the few percent
who are "wrongly" categorized, including the brain-damaged-and-
undifferentiated.


A point that I found striking --
A friend who did left-/right-hand research pointed out to me
that the "between subject" differences are typically larger than
the "within subject". That is, you are /almost/ as good -- say,
90 or 95% -- with your non-preferred hand, given some new
task (little practice beforehand). Thus, if B is stronger that A,
it is probably by a larger margin than B's right compared to B's left.
That suggests that there are a few (or no) tasks that one could
not /learn/ to use the other hand for, almost as well as the
preferred. Assuming you have only the usual deficit.

When Ivan Lendl retired from tennis and took up golf, he
switched from a right-handed to a left-handed swing (despite
the need for the less-common clubs). IIRC, famous lefty tennis
star Rafe Nadal started out playing right-handed and was
switched by his coach. - I wonder, for both, if that is a
preference, for tennis, for power over precision.


With tennis, there is a slight advantage is using the hand not used by
the other player. Since left-handers are more used to playing against
right-handers than vice versa, they can reap this advantage.

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Old September 7th 17, 08:49 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usage.english,alt.windows7.general
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Peter Moylan asserted that:
On 02/09/17 18:59, charles wrote:
In article ,
Peter Moylan wrote:
On 02/09/17 11:17, Sam E wrote:
On 09/01/2017 06:47 PM, masonc wrote:
If I understand correctly, Windows 7/10 is no longer the subject of
these newsgroups.

People usually post when there's a problem. Windows is becoming so
perfect people don't have problems (or maybe Windows has made them
unable to post).


Since you mention it ... how do you tell Windows 10 to display filename
extensions in folder listings? My wife has two files itinerary.xlsx and
itinerary.ods, and she's getting confused as to which is which, because
they are both listed as "itinerary". I know how to fix this bug in older
versions of Windows, but Microsoft is now working harder to stop people
from finding things.


very strange. My Win10 machine shows file extensions . I've never done
anything to alter that.


Ah! That is one of the major improvements in Windows 10. When you install it,
it apparently doesn't destroy your customisations from the previous version.
Perhaps it doesn't even do a search and destroy of competing operating
systems, but I haven't put that to the test for many years, since I decided
long ago that if you have multiple operating systems on a computer then it's
unsafe to let one of them be Windows.


So far as I know, having Windows as the FIRST operating system and
other OSes installed after is not a problem, and is common among Linux
users who dual-boot.

However, if you go to "view" in the filer, there is a box "File name
extensions". It's ticked on my machine.


Thank you. That's even logical. However, it's not where it used to be, which
is why I was fooled.

Presumably if I do it at the "This PC" level, it will be inherited all the
way down.


Maybe. It used to be you could choose between "change this folder
only" and "apply to all folders". Also, if your files tend to have
long file names, extensions may get hidden by column truncation, but
there's also a separate column that can show file type (by decoding the
extension).

URL:http://searailfoam.net/misc/explorer-sample.png

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Old September 7th 17, 02:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usage.english,alt.windows7.general
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"Snidely" wrote

| So far as I know, having Windows as the FIRST operating system and
| other OSes installed after is not a problem, and is common among Linux
| users who dual-boot.
|

Last time I installed Linux, which was actually a few
years ago now, the Lilo installer had been "streamlined"
and was assuming I'd want to wipe C drive. Actually
deciding for myself was an "advanced" option. If I'd
assumed the install would be "not a problem" then I
would have lost Windows.
It's always risky to install a new OS on the same disk.
If you're not going to use disk images you should
at least image or otherwise back up the existing OS
install that may be at risk.

There are also other issues. For instance, many
Win7 installs have a separate boot partition in front.
If you wipe that you can't boot. If you don't wipe
it, will it see your other OSs? No one should try
multibooting without at least learning the basics
about hard disk partitions, booting, and the quirks
of the OSs they intend to install. There's rarely
such a thing as "not a problem" because none of
these products are really designed for multi-boot.


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Old September 7th 17, 05:20 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usage.english,alt.windows7.general
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"Mayayana" on Thu, 7 Sep 2017 09:13:52 -0400
typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
"Snidely" wrote

| So far as I know, having Windows as the FIRST operating system and
| other OSes installed after is not a problem, and is common among Linux
| users who dual-boot.
|

Last time I installed Linux, which was actually a few
years ago now, the Lilo installer had been "streamlined"
and was assuming I'd want to wipe C drive. Actually
deciding for myself was an "advanced" option. If I'd
assumed the install would be "not a problem" then I
would have lost Windows.
It's always risky to install a new OS on the same disk.
If you're not going to use disk images you should
at least image or otherwise back up the existing OS
install that may be at risk.

There are also other issues. For instance, many
Win7 installs have a separate boot partition in front.
If you wipe that you can't boot. If you don't wipe
it, will it see your other OSs? No one should try
multibooting without at least learning the basics
about hard disk partitions, booting, and the quirks
of the OSs they intend to install. There's rarely
such a thing as "not a problem" because none of
these products are really designed for multi-boot.


Like "short beers" - there is no such thing as a "quick fix".

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