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On 2017-09-14 5:19 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-09-13 12:25, Katy Jennison wrote:
On 13/09/2017 14:09, Cheryl wrote:
On 2017-09-13 10:25 AM, Mayayana wrote:
"Anders D. Nygaard" wrote

| I was assuming that dukes and earls are part of
| the monarchical hierarchy. Wikipedia seems to agree.
|
| No - see below.
|
| Am I wrong?
|
| Yes. The duke of Luxembourg is a monarch, British dukes are not;
| the are, however, members of the British nobility.

I can no longer see the original beginning of this
thread, but surely we must have already discussed
this misreading of what I said? A "nobility" class implies
monarchy. I didn't say a duke *is* a monarch. Who
cares, really? Even the queen of England is only a
monarch in a theatrical sense.

This alt.usage.english group has such potential for
interesting conversations, but many of the regulars
seem to be obsessed with frivolous, hair-splitting
one-upsmanship.

The whole point of my original comment about
turning grand estates into tourist traps was that
monarchy in Britain is an anachronism.

Though an English girlfriend from many years ago
once made an interesting point to me: She thought
that monarchy in Britain provides a relatively harmless
outlet for nationalism, potentially keeping it out of
government. Maybe. I got the sense that her view
was actually a popular excuse for *excessive*
nationalistic frippery. Some consolation for the loss
of all those colonies, what?

That is basically one version or aspect of the idea that it's useful
politically to have a human symbol of the state who isn't involved in
politics. This idea has been used in other countries, too - anywhere
that you have two national leaders - one political, the other not.
Titles vary, of course.

Ideally, it increases national unity without tying the nation to the
fortunes of a particular political party. It doesn't have anything to do
with status as a former empire, although former empires can have a
natural candidate for such a position in the person of the
king/queen/emperor.


We have disliked and distrusted so many of our Prime Ministers that we
have been thoroughly put off the prospect of any of them becoming more
Presidential.


What frosts me is the the habit of calling the PM's wife "First :Lady".
She isn't. IIRC, Mrs Brian Mulroney was the first one to somehow acquire
that designation. Our Governor-General's spouse is the First Spouse.

Neither is first spouse, and I don't like the adaptation of the title
even if the spouse does sometimes somehow acquire government offices and
staff. We elect the PM and appoint the Governor General, not their spouses.

I was going to include the provincial level, but it all got complicated.
Governors General and Lieutenant? Governors General and Lieutenants
Governor?

--
Cheryl

On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 08:00:37 -0230, Cheryl
wrote:

On 2017-09-14 5:19 PM, Wolf K wrote:


Neither is first spouse, and I don't like the adaptation of the title
even if the spouse does sometimes somehow acquire government offices and
staff. We elect the PM and appoint the Governor General, not their spouses.

I was going to include the provincial level, but it all got complicated.
Governors General and Lieutenant? Governors General and Lieutenants
Governor?



I always wondered what Bill Clinton was going to be called if Hilary
won the presidential election.

On 9/15/2017 7:42 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 08:00:37 -0230, Cheryl
wrote:

On 2017-09-14 5:19 PM, Wolf K wrote:


Neither is first spouse, and I don't like the adaptation of the title
even if the spouse does sometimes somehow acquire government offices and
staff. We elect the PM and appoint the Governor General, not their spouses.

I was going to include the provincial level, but it all got complicated.
Governors General and Lieutenant? Governors General and Lieutenants
Governor?



I always wondered what Bill Clinton was going to be called if Hilary
won the presidential election.

When it seemed a possibility, I suggested "First Laddie"...I heard later
that Bill himself had heard the same suggestion somewhere and approved
of it....r

On 15/9/17 10:42 pm, Ken Blake wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 08:00:37 -0230, Cheryl
wrote:

On 2017-09-14 5:19 PM, Wolf K wrote:


Neither is first spouse, and I don't like the adaptation of the title
even if the spouse does sometimes somehow acquire government offices and
staff. We elect the PM and appoint the Governor General, not their spouses.

I was going to include the provincial level, but it all got complicated.
Governors General and Lieutenant? Governors General and Lieutenants
Governor?



I always wondered what Bill Clinton was going to be called if Hilary
won the presidential election.


When Julia Gillard was prime minister of Australia, local wits called
her live-in partner "First Bloke".

--
Robert B. born England a long time ago;
Western Australia since 1972

Den 15-09-2017 kl. 16:42 skrev Ken Blake:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 08:00:37 -0230, Cheryl
wrote:

On 2017-09-14 5:19 PM, Wolf K wrote:


Neither is first spouse, and I don't like the adaptation of the title
even if the spouse does sometimes somehow acquire government offices and
staff. We elect the PM and appoint the Governor General, not their spouses.

I was going to include the provincial level, but it all got complicated.
Governors General and Lieutenant? Governors General and Lieutenants
Governor?

I always wondered what Bill Clinton was going to be called if Hilary
won the presidential election.

He'd presumably remain "president".

/Anders, Denmark.

On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 07:42:49 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 08:00:37 -0230, Cheryl
wrote:

On 2017-09-14 5:19 PM, Wolf K wrote:


Neither is first spouse, and I don't like the adaptation of the title
even if the spouse does sometimes somehow acquire government offices and
staff. We elect the PM and appoint the Governor General, not their spouses.

I was going to include the provincial level, but it all got complicated.
Governors General and Lieutenant? Governors General and Lieutenants
Governor?



I always wondered what Bill Clinton was going to be called if Hilary
won the presidential election.

First Laddie?

--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)