Saving the Recycle Bin!!

Daniel60 wrote:
On 3/11/2017 6:05 PM, Paul wrote:
Daniel60 wrote:
I'm reading posts on this group from back in March 2017 and the
"current" thread is about CCleaner and Avast cleaners, which happened
to remind me .....

Yesterday, I ran CCleaner 5.34 and, amongst other things, it wanted to
empty my Recycle Bin. Now, I know it's bad practice but I tend to use
my Recycle Bin as somewhere to store programs that I don't think I'll
need again .... but you never know!!

So what I would like to know is is there a simple way to burn the
stuff in the Recycle Bin to CD/DVD without having to Restore
everything to it original positions on the HD first??

TIA

Daniel

There's a difference between what's on the left of your
desktop, and the folder it uses in Explorer.

https://s1.postimg.org/1b2xctbten/recycle_folder.gif

Paul, you've lost me!! I know ... easily done!

If I open Windows Explorer, it doesn't show a "C:\$Recycle.Bin"

You need the "maximum visibility" options.

There are three tick boxes that control stuff of interest.
You can adjust these as you see fit. The ones I've highlighted,
will cause desktop.ini files to show on your desktop, so
the settings are not "ideal" from a visual perspective,
but I like the settings because I can see everything.

The security certificate on this site is currently busted.
I granted a temporary exception in my browser, so I could
use the site.

https://s1.postimg.org/1ljnkpuurj/fo...ty_options.gif

*******

Files have permissions and attributes. It's the attributes
that affect visibility properties in this case. You can
see some of mine have a lock symbol, and that's a permissions
issue of some sort.

The "dir" command supports attributes. And it's rather
clumsy as far as I'm concerned, as a "real" command would
simply list all the files, with three columns for A (Archive),
H (Hidden) and S (System).

dir /? # for more information
# while working in Command Prompt

In addition, the "attrib" command allows changing the
attributes of things. A person could (clumsily) modify their
$Recycle.Bin using "attrib", until it was visible with
ordinary commands. But, would the OS leave it alone ?
Dunno, and I'm not going to test that :-)

attrib /?

HTH,
Paul

On 4-11-2017 12:34, Daniel60 wrote:
On 4/11/2017 2:35 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Daniel60 on Fri, 3 Nov 2017 16:35:23
+1100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
I'm reading posts on this group from back in March 2017 and the
"current" thread is about CCleaner and Avast cleaners, which happened to
remind me .....

Yesterday, I ran CCleaner 5.34 and, amongst other things, it wanted to
empty my Recycle Bin. Now, I know it's bad practice but I tend to use my
Recycle Bin as somewhere to store programs that I don't think I'll need
again .... but you never know!!

Those programs should go somewhere else. I would not trust
Microsoft not to do something "clever" to "improve my computer
experience" and wipe the Recycle Bin "just to be helpful". (I
anthropomorphize Windows as a hyperactive Boy Scout out to be useful
and let you know all the good things it is doing to you. Like
reorganizing your workspace and tossing out old stuff.)

In Australia, back in the 50's-60's, the Boy Scouts had a fund raising
program called "Bob-A-Job", where they'd mow your lawn for a Shilling
(10 cents), Wash your car for a Shilling, etc..

Cannot say I've heard of it recently .... and it would cost you a damn
sight more than a "Bob-A-Job"!!

(Just noticed ... filipivich. My surname is Mercovich, so we might have
some common heritage ..... way, way, way back!!)

Daniel

In the Netherlands: "hëitje voor een karweitje"
Bad translation:quarter for a small job.

Daniel60 on Sat, 4 Nov 2017 22:34:08
+1100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
On 4/11/2017 2:35 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Daniel60 on Fri, 3 Nov 2017 16:35:23
+1100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
I'm reading posts on this group from back in March 2017 and the
"current" thread is about CCleaner and Avast cleaners, which happened to
remind me .....

Yesterday, I ran CCleaner 5.34 and, amongst other things, it wanted to
empty my Recycle Bin. Now, I know it's bad practice but I tend to use my
Recycle Bin as somewhere to store programs that I don't think I'll need
again .... but you never know!!

Those programs should go somewhere else. I would not trust
Microsoft not to do something "clever" to "improve my computer
experience" and wipe the Recycle Bin "just to be helpful". (I
anthropomorphize Windows as a hyperactive Boy Scout out to be useful
and let you know all the good things it is doing to you. Like
reorganizing your workspace and tossing out old stuff.)

In Australia, back in the 50's-60's, the Boy Scouts had a fund raising
program called "Bob-A-Job", where they'd mow your lawn for a Shilling
(10 cents), Wash your car for a Shilling, etc..

Cannot say I've heard of it recently .... and it would cost you a damn
sight more than a "Bob-A-Job"!!

(Just noticed ... filipivich. My surname is Mercovich, so we might have
some common heritage ..... way, way, way back!!)

I doubt it. I adopted this nom-du-net back when I was right out of
university and Russian language studies.
As near as I'm able to sus out, the last time any of "my people"
were in Russia, it wasn't Russia yet. Nor Kevian. Heck the Rus
hadn't yet the Norsk country.


Arrivederci, paisan

tschus
pyotr
--
pyotr filipivich
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?

In message , pyotr
filipivich writes:
Daniel60 on Sat, 4 Nov 2017 22:34:08
+1100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
[]
(Just noticed ... filipivich. My surname is Mercovich, so we might have
some common heritage ..... way, way, way back!!)

I doubt it. I adopted this nom-du-net back when I was right out of
university and Russian language studies.
As near as I'm able to sus out, the last time any of "my people"
were in Russia, it wasn't Russia yet. Nor Kevian. Heck the Rus
hadn't yet the Norsk country.
[]
Even if that wasn't the case, sharing -vich wouldn't imply common
ancestry (other than just having ancestors from Russian-speaking areas);
like the Scandinavian -ssen, the English -son, the Irish O', the
Scottish Mc-/Mac-, the German -ssohn, and so on, it just means "son of".
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Eddie [Waring] underook elocution lessons in Leeds. After four weeks he was
asked to leave - all members in his class had begun to speak like him.
Stuart Hall, RT 7-13 August 2010

In message , Char Jackson
writes:
On Sat, 4 Nov 2017 13:54:23 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

2. You _can_ copy from the command prompt window, just not quite as
normal (e. g. with Ctrl-X/C/V). [Well, you can't cut, but you can copy
and paste.] Click on the symbol at the top left (left end of title bar;
looks like a mini command window) and then Edit. Takes a bit of getting
used to.

Better yet, enable Quick Edit mode as a default and you never have to go
back up there to the menu again. Copy text by dragging your mouse across
it and hitting Enter, paste text by positioning your cursor and right
clicking the mouse.

OK, I'll bite: how do you enable Quick Edit mode?
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Eddie [Waring] underook elocution lessons in Leeds. After four weeks he was
asked to leave - all members in his class had begun to speak like him.
Stuart Hall, RT 7-13 August 2010

On 11/4/2017 6:38 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Char Jackson
writes:
On Sat, 4 Nov 2017 13:54:23 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

2. You _can_ copy from the command prompt window, just not quite as
normal (e. g. with Ctrl-X/C/V). [Well, you can't cut, but you can copy
and paste.] Click on the symbol at the top left (left end of title bar;
looks like a mini command window) and then Edit. Takes a bit of getting
used to.

Better yet, enable Quick Edit mode as a default and you never have to go
back up there to the menu again. Copy text by dragging your mouse across
it and hitting Enter, paste text by positioning your cursor and right
clicking the mouse.

OK, I'll bite: how do you enable Quick Edit mode?

Do you mean this? First search hit.
https://www.tekrevue.com/tip/boost-p...ommand-prompt/

In message , Mike S
writes:
On 11/4/2017 6:38 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Char Jackson
writes:
On Sat, 4 Nov 2017 13:54:23 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

2. You _can_ copy from the command prompt window, just not quite as
normal (e. g. with Ctrl-X/C/V). [Well, you can't cut, but you can copy
and paste.] Click on the symbol at the top left (left end of title bar;
looks like a mini command window) and then Edit. Takes a bit of getting
used to.

Better yet, enable Quick Edit mode as a default and you never have to go
back up there to the menu again. Copy text by dragging your mouse across
it and hitting Enter, paste text by positioning your cursor and right
clicking the mouse.

OK, I'll bite: how do you enable Quick Edit mode?

Do you mean this? First search hit.
https://www.tekrevue.com/tip/boost-p...mode-windows-c
ommand-prompt/

To save others looking: it's a tickbox under "Properties" from the
top-left-symbol menu, and uses right-click to paste.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Everyone looks sun-kissed and beautiful and as you watch it ["Bondi Rescue"],
pale and flabby on your sofa, you find yourself wondering if your life could
ever be that exotic. (It couldn't. You're British.) - Russell Howard, in
Radio Times, 20-26 April 2013

On 5/11/2017 2:05 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 11/4/2017 4:23 AM, Daniel60 wrote:
On 4/11/2017 2:16 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

Snip

If you have more hard drives or partitions beyond C, you will find a
Recycle Bin for each. You will have to change the folder options to see
them. On each, select [Tools Folder Options]. Select the View tab on
the Folder Options window. Uncheck the checkbox for "Hide protected
operating system files (Recommended)", confirm that choice, and select
the OK button.

When you open, for example, C:\$RECYCLE.BIN, you may see several folders
all named (again, for example) "Recycle Bin". They all have the same
contents. However, when you open each of them, the complete path and
file shown in the address area of Windows Explorer are different.

David, as I typed in reply to Paul, in Windows Explorer I see only one
"Recycle Bin" at the bottom left of that screen. Clicking it shows icons
for all 205 Files and Folders in the Recycle Bin. I cannot see how to
differentiate which files/folders are on which of my three partitions,
C:\, G:\ and H:\

If I right Click on (several of the) icons, I have the option to select
either "Restore", "Cut", "Delete" or "Properties".

See my first paragraph that you quoted.

Noted first time around, David .... but, as I don't see any "Tools"
clickable, either on the Win Explorer screen itself or by Right Clicking
after having selected one of the partitions, I cannot select the "View
tab" on the "Folder Options" screen.

Just see the Recycle Bin at the bottom of the Win Explorer screen.

Daniel

On 5/11/2017 12:54 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Daniel60
writes:
[]
Paul, you've lost me!! I know ... easily done!

If I open Windows Explorer, it doesn't show a "C:\$Recycle.Bin" but,
at the bottom left of the Win Ex screen, it does list (just one)
"Recycle Bin" and, if I click on it, it shows all 205 File Folders and
Files in the Recycle Bin, i.e. just one Recycle Bin for my three
logical HD's, C:\, G:\ and H:\.

(I'm not Paul, but have you turned on "show hidden folders" (or
something like that)?

Yes, I had previously selected "Show Hidden Files, Folders and Drives"
under Folder Options-View. (and this is what David E. Ross was wanting
me to do ... but already done!!)

But still, no individual Recycle Bins for each partition! Just the one
at the bottom, left of the Win Explorer screen!

If I open a CMD Windows, I can cd myself up to the C:\, and then cd
C:\$Recycle.Bin,
so I can ...

Quote
C:\$Recycle.BinDir
Volume in drive C is C:\
Volume Serial Number is nnnn-nnnn

Directory of C:\$Recycle.Bin

File Not Found
End Quote (would have been easier if I could have Copied from the
CMD.exe window!!)

1. I think the CMD window also doesn't show hidden files by default. Try
switches - "dir /ah" might work, for example.
2. You _can_ copy from the command prompt window, just not quite as
normal (e. g. with Ctrl-X/C/V). [Well, you can't cut, but you can copy
and paste.] Click on the symbol at the top left (left end of title bar;
looks like a mini command window) and then Edit. Takes a bit of getting
used to.

Thank you. Cannot say I've ever had to do it that way .... but I had
been able to do it somehow!!

So then I tried to CD into the "Recycle.Bin" and then the "Recycle
Bin" sub-folders of "C:\$Recycle.Bin", but both times I got "The
System cannot find the path specified.".

What an I doing wrong??
Daniel

In such circumstances, I've _sometimes_ found "cd C:\x\y\z" actually
gets me there, even if the system denies that say y exists. (But it _is_
tedious, especially if the names are awkward; using "command prompt
here" from Windows Explorer, once you've turned on the hiddens, is
probably easier.)

As with most things, "there is more than one way to skin a cat", but
don't worry, there's no need to call the RSPCA or whatever.

I normally "cd.." several times to get to the root directory, then "cd
C:\A", "cd C:\A\B", etc. Just so I know where I am!!

Thanks

Daniel

On 5/11/2017 5:46 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Daniel60 on Sat, 4 Nov 2017 22:34:08
+1100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:

Snip

(Just noticed ... filipivich. My surname is Mercovich, so we might have
some common heritage ..... way, way, way back!!)

I doubt it. I adopted this nom-du-net back when I was right out of
university and Russian language studies.
As near as I'm able to sus out, the last time any of "my people"
were in Russia, it wasn't Russia yet. Nor Kevian. Heck the Rus
hadn't yet the Norsk country.

One of my ancestors came from Dubrovnik, present day Croatia, past
Yugoslavia, past Austro-Hungarian Empire, was in the Austro-Hungarian
Navy in about 1850. He "jumped ship" at Malta and joined a ship that was
bound for New South Wales as it was then, now Portland, Victoria,
Australia, where "they" scuttled the ship.

He then went to the Ballarat Gold Fields, and, unfortunately, didn't
make a fortune!! ;-(

Daniel

On 5/11/2017 12:35 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , pyotr
filipivich writes:
Daniel60 on Sat, 4 Nov 2017 22:34:08
+1100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
[]
(Just noticed ... filipivich. My surname is Mercovich, so we might have
some common heritage ..... way, way, way back!!)

I doubt it. I adopted this nom-du-net back when I was right out of
university and Russian language studies.
As near as I'm able to sus out, the last time any of "my people"
were in Russia, it wasn't Russia yet. Nor Kevian. Heck the Rus
hadn't yet the Norsk country.
[]
Even if that wasn't the case, sharing -vich wouldn't imply common
ancestry (other than just having ancestors from Russian-speaking areas);
like the Scandinavian -ssen, the English -son, the Irish O', the
Scottish Mc-/Mac-, the German -ssohn, and so on, it just means "son of".

Spot on, John!! Well, I thought the "ovich/ovic" was "son of", but near
enough.

And I think Irish "Fitz" fits in there as well, i.e. Fitzpatrick == son
of Patrick, Fitzmichael == son of Michael, etc.

On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 02:44:29 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Mike S
writes:
On 11/4/2017 6:38 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Char Jackson
writes:
On Sat, 4 Nov 2017 13:54:23 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

2. You _can_ copy from the command prompt window, just not quite as
normal (e. g. with Ctrl-X/C/V). [Well, you can't cut, but you can copy
and paste.] Click on the symbol at the top left (left end of title bar;
looks like a mini command window) and then Edit. Takes a bit of getting
used to.

Better yet, enable Quick Edit mode as a default and you never have to go
back up there to the menu again. Copy text by dragging your mouse across
it and hitting Enter, paste text by positioning your cursor and right
clicking the mouse.

OK, I'll bite: how do you enable Quick Edit mode?

Do you mean this? First search hit.
https://www.tekrevue.com/tip/boost-p...mode-windows-c
ommand-prompt/

To save others looking: it's a tickbox under "Properties" from the
top-left-symbol menu, and uses right-click to paste.

I also visit the Defaults menu, right next to Properties, to enable
Quick Edit mode there. That way every command prompt after that inherits
this useful setting.

--

Char Jackson

On 11/5/2017 3:17 AM, Daniel60 wrote:
On 5/11/2017 2:05 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 11/4/2017 4:23 AM, Daniel60 wrote:
On 4/11/2017 2:16 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

Snip

If you have more hard drives or partitions beyond C, you will find a
Recycle Bin for each. You will have to change the folder options to see
them. On each, select [Tools Folder Options]. Select the View tab on
the Folder Options window. Uncheck the checkbox for "Hide protected
operating system files (Recommended)", confirm that choice, and select
the OK button.

When you open, for example, C:\$RECYCLE.BIN, you may see several folders
all named (again, for example) "Recycle Bin". They all have the same
contents. However, when you open each of them, the complete path and
file shown in the address area of Windows Explorer are different.

David, as I typed in reply to Paul, in Windows Explorer I see only one
"Recycle Bin" at the bottom left of that screen. Clicking it shows icons
for all 205 Files and Folders in the Recycle Bin. I cannot see how to
differentiate which files/folders are on which of my three partitions,
C:\, G:\ and H:\

If I right Click on (several of the) icons, I have the option to select
either "Restore", "Cut", "Delete" or "Properties".

See my first paragraph that you quoted.

Noted first time around, David .... but, as I don't see any "Tools"
clickable, either on the Win Explorer screen itself or by Right Clicking
after having selected one of the partitions, I cannot select the "View
tab" on the "Folder Options" screen.

Just see the Recycle Bin at the bottom of the Win Explorer screen.

Daniel


On the Windows Explorer (NOT Internet Explorer) window for any folder
and for any drive or drive's partition, the top line is the Title Bar.
Below that is a bar with arrows and the Address Area (which shows the
path to the folder). Next are the Menu Bar and then the Tool Bar. The
Menu Bar has File, Edit, View, Tools, and Help. The Tool Bar has
buttons that can be customized.

You want the Tools menu on the Menu Bar, not anything on the Tool Bar.
The Menu Bar has "Map network drive", "Disconnect network drive", "Open
Sync Center", and "Folder options". You want "Folder options".

--
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/

By allowing employers to eliminate coverage for birth control
from their insurance plans, President Trump has guaranteed there
will be an increase in the demand for abortions.

In message , Daniel60
writes:
[]
I normally "cd.." several times to get to the root directory, then "cd
C:\A", "cd C:\A\B", etc. Just so I know where I am!!

cd \

will usually get you there in one go (-: [Actually, it works even
without the space -

cd\
..]

And you don't need the C: if you're staying on the same drive
(partition): if you _want_ to go back down one level at a time (and I do
that too, quite often), you can get from C:\ to C:\A\B by just

c:\ cd A
C:\A cd B
C:\A\B
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Everyone is entitled to an *informed* opinion." - Harlan Ellison

Daniel60 on Sun, 5 Nov 2017 22:54:11
+1100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
On 5/11/2017 5:46 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Daniel60 on Sat, 4 Nov 2017 22:34:08
+1100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:

Snip

(Just noticed ... filipivich. My surname is Mercovich, so we might have
some common heritage ..... way, way, way back!!)

I doubt it. I adopted this nom-du-net back when I was right out of
university and Russian language studies.
As near as I'm able to sus out, the last time any of "my people"
were in Russia, it wasn't Russia yet. Nor Kevian. Heck the Rus
hadn't yet the Norsk country.

One of my ancestors came from Dubrovnik, present day Croatia, past
Yugoslavia, past Austro-Hungarian Empire, was in the Austro-Hungarian
Navy in about 1850. He "jumped ship" at Malta and joined a ship that was
bound for New South Wales as it was then, now Portland, Victoria,
Australia, where "they" scuttled the ship.

I recall reading of a Russian poet with the last name of O'grady
(iirc). Yeah, Granther left Ireland for France, wound up in the Grand
Armee - and stayed in Russia.

He then went to the Ballarat Gold Fields, and, unfortunately, didn't
make a fortune!! ;-(

Daniel
--
pyotr filipivich
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?