lowering data use for hotspot

IIUC, when webpages are displayed on a phone, the default is to show
pages with fewer images and graphics, to cut down on data usage and
charges by phones.

Is there a way to get my PC laptop to retrieve webpages in the same
manner, with sparse images and graphics?


I wanted a phone with Hotspot but didn't think I'd use it much.

Then I visited my brother. I had placed ads on Airbnb and craigslist
for him as he tries to rent his old apartment and we agreed it had cable
TV and internet. However it has neither. Despite what he thinks.

So fortunately for me I have Hotspot on the phone,and 2.8 gigs, but I'm
down to 1.21 gigs remaining after 8 nights, and I'd like what's left to
last for the rest of trip, plus the 4, 5, or 6-day drive back to
Baltimore, from Florida. Of course then the motels will actually have
wifi, but once in a while I need a little data on the highway.

micky wrote:

when webpages are displayed on a phone, the default is to show
pages with fewer images and graphics, to cut down on data usage and
charges by phones.

Is there a way to get my PC laptop to retrieve webpages in the same
manner

Install an add-on that allows 'faking' the browser's user-agent string,
and set it to look like a mobile phone browser?

micky wrote:

IIUC, when webpages are displayed on a phone, the default is to show
pages with fewer images and graphics, to cut down on data usage and
charges by phones.

Which web page gets presented is often determine by the client that
connects to the server. The client sends a header identifying itself
(User-Agent). Mobile web browsers have a different UA string than do
desktop web browsers. When a mobile client connects to the server, the
server can deliver a mobile-centric version of the web page.

Is there a way to get my PC laptop to retrieve webpages in the same
manner, with sparse images and graphics?

Change the UA string sent by your desktop's web browser. There are
add-ons to choose what UA string the client will send.

Mobile-centric web pages often have reduced functionality. You might
not get the pages you want or need. For example, I couldn't get at some
settings in my Gmail account when using their mobile page on my
smartphone. I had to use the option in the mobile web browser to show
the desktop version of the page (it sent a different UA string) to get
at those settings.

To see what UA string your web browser is sending to the server, you can
visit the following sites:

http://getright.com/useragent.html
https://www.whatismybrowser.com/dete...-my-user-agent

Once you know the UA string sent by your mobile client, you can add it
to the UA add-on in your desktop client. However, use of the UA string
is deprecated for detection of the web browsers capabilities. Sites are
supposed to actually test if the web browser can perform the functions
the site wants to use. Although deprecated, the UA header is still
often used by the server to differentiate between clients.

I wanted a phone with Hotspot but didn't think I'd use it much.

That lets others connect to your phone while your phone uses its wifi or
cellular data connection. Do you have an unlimited cellular data quota?
It can get eaten pretty fast with Internet stuff. My aunt didn't have
wifi, connected back to the security camera at home, and the video
traffic ate up all her data quota pretty quick so she didn't have any
for the rest of her trip. I configured the app to force it to connect
to the Internet using wi-fi only (Settings - Data Usage - app -
Restrict background data).

Am 17.11.17 um 10:56 schrieb micky:
IIUC, when webpages are displayed on a phone, the default is to show
pages with fewer images and graphics, to cut down on data usage and
charges by phones.

Is there a way to get my PC laptop to retrieve webpages in the same
manner, with sparse images and graphics?


I wanted a phone with Hotspot but didn't think I'd use it much.

Then I visited my brother. I had placed ads on Airbnb and craigslist
for him as he tries to rent his old apartment and we agreed it had cable
TV and internet. However it has neither. Despite what he thinks.

So fortunately for me I have Hotspot on the phone,and 2.8 gigs, but I'm
down to 1.21 gigs remaining after 8 nights, and I'd like what's left to
last for the rest of trip, plus the 4, 5, or 6-day drive back to
Baltimore, from Florida. Of course then the motels will actually have
wifi, but once in a while I need a little data on the highway.

And where exactely is the connection to Android in your posting? You are
OT here.



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Ex iniuria ius non oritur

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 17 Nov 2017 10:52:54 +0000, Andy
Burns wrote:

micky wrote:

when webpages are displayed on a phone, the default is to show
pages with fewer images and graphics, to cut down on data usage and
charges by phones.

Is there a way to get my PC laptop to retrieve webpages in the same
manner

Install an add-on that allows 'faking' the browser's user-agent string,
and set it to look like a mobile phone browser?

I'd never heard of that but I found it and installed one each for Opera
and Firefox.

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 17 Nov 2017 10:03:02 -0600,
VanguardLH wrote:

micky wrote:

IIUC, when webpages are displayed on a phone, the default is to show
pages with fewer images and graphics, to cut down on data usage and
charges by phones.

Which web page gets presented is often determine by the client that
connects to the server. The client sends a header identifying itself
(User-Agent). Mobile web browsers have a different UA string than do
desktop web browsers. When a mobile client connects to the server, the
server can deliver a mobile-centric version of the web page.

Is there a way to get my PC laptop to retrieve webpages in the same
manner, with sparse images and graphics?

Change the UA string sent by your desktop's web browser. There are
add-ons to choose what UA string the client will send.

I installed "User Agent Switcher Spoofs and mimics browser's
User-Agent strings" in both Firefox and Opera, the two browsers I use.

Mobile-centric web pages often have reduced functionality. You might
not get the pages you want or need. For example, I couldn't get at some
settings in my Gmail account when using their mobile page on my
smartphone. I had to use the option in the mobile web browser to show
the desktop version of the page (it sent a different UA string) to get
at those settings.

If that becomes a problem, I can undo it for one of the two browswers.
So far, no problem, but otoh, thought the format of Google search
results has changed, I don't seem to be using bytes any slower than
before. I'm downt to 562MB left, but I"m leaving tomorrow moning or
the next morning.

I'm willing to pay for more data if I have to, depending on what they
charge but I have a feeling they charge a lot. (When I have wifi again,
I'll look it up.)

To see what UA string your web browser is sending to the server, you can
visit the following sites:

http://getright.com/useragent.html
https://www.whatismybrowser.com/dete...-my-user-agent

Aha. One had not changed even though I thought I installed it. They're
both changed now (but this got set long before I thought data use had
stayed the same (or increased?)

Once you know the UA string sent by your mobile client, you can add it
to the UA add-on in your desktop client. However, use of the UA string
is deprecated for detection of the web browsers capabilities. Sites are
supposed to actually test if the web browser can perform the functions

The one above, for Firefox, lets you specifiy the webbrowser and the OS,
I guess even if that version of the browser won't run on that OS.

the site wants to use. Although deprecated, the UA header is still
often used by the server to differentiate between clients.

I wanted a phone with Hotspot but didn't think I'd use it much.

That lets others connect to your phone while your phone uses its wifi or
cellular data connection. Do you have an unlimited cellular data quota?

Not at all. 2Gigs a month and just by chance another 800Megs this
month only.

It can get eaten pretty fast with Internet stuff. My aunt didn't have
wifi, connected back to the security camera at home, and the video
traffic ate up all her data quota pretty quick so she didn't have any
for the rest of her trip. I configured the app to force it to connect
to the Internet using wi-fi only (Settings - Data Usage - app -
Restrict background data).


Despite my impr ession, it is probably working to lower the amount of
data flowing through my phone's hotspot to my laptop.

But, when I am in Firefox and I ask for a list of Android/Opera strings,
I get more than 10.
Yet, when I'm in Opera itself and I ask for a list of Android/Opera
strings, I get none!!!

So I'm using Android Firefox there, even though it's Opera, and I
suppose it will work well most of the time. It's been a day and I
haven't noticed any problems.

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 18 Nov 2017 08:06:45 +0100, Joerg
Lorenz wrote:

Am 17.11.17 um 10:56 schrieb micky:
IIUC, when webpages are displayed on a phone, the default is to show
pages with fewer images and graphics, to cut down on data usage and
charges by phones.

Is there a way to get my PC laptop to retrieve webpages in the same
manner, with sparse images and graphics?


I wanted a phone with Hotspot but didn't think I'd use it much.

Then I visited my brother. I had placed ads on Airbnb and craigslist
for him as he tries to rent his old apartment and we agreed it had cable
TV and internet. However it has neither. Despite what he thinks.

So fortunately for me I have Hotspot on the phone,and 2.8 gigs, but I'm
down to 1.21 gigs remaining after 8 nights, and I'd like what's left to
last for the rest of trip, plus the 4, 5, or 6-day drive back to
Baltimore, from Florida. Of course then the motels will actually have
wifi, but once in a while I need a little data on the highway.

And where exactely is the connection to Android in your posting? You are
OT here.

Oh, you're right. I'll try to forget what Andy and Vanguard told me.

Am 19.11.17 um 03:34 schrieb micky:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 18 Nov 2017 08:06:45 +0100, Joerg
Lorenz wrote:

Am 17.11.17 um 10:56 schrieb micky:
wifi, but once in a while I need a little data on the highway.

And where exactely is the connection to Android in your posting? You are
OT here.

Oh, you're right. I'll try to forget what Andy and Vanguard told me.

This is not your private Newsgroup irrespective of what others wrote.
You are OT in this NG, period.


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Ex iniuria ius non oritur

micky wrote:

Despite my impression, it is probably working to lower the amount of
data flowing through my phone's hotspot to my laptop.

Look under developer tools in firefox/chrome menu (probably opera too)
for responsive design mode, where you can also fake a smaller screen,
modern websites will often react by showing smaller/fewer images.

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 19 Nov 2017 08:13:36 +0100, Joerg
Lorenz wrote:

Am 19.11.17 um 03:34 schrieb micky:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 18 Nov 2017 08:06:45 +0100, Joerg
Lorenz wrote:

Am 17.11.17 um 10:56 schrieb micky:
wifi, but once in a while I need a little data on the highway.

And where exactely is the connection to Android in your posting? You are
OT here.

Oh, you're right.

Actually, I was being overly cooperative here. The connection to
Android is that I wouldn't have this need if I had unlimited data like
wifi usually provides. If I weren't using my phone's hotspot feature,
MY PHONE's hotspot feature, there would be no need to economize on data.

If the answer were not to spoof Android, to SPOOF ANDROID, there would
be less of a connection to Android, but it seems like the answers by
both Andy and Vanguard were 100% about Android.

I thought these things were obvious.

I'll try to forget what Andy and Vanguard told me.

This is not your private Newsgroup irrespective of what others wrote.
You are OT in this NG, period.

The trouble is that you complain all the time. When someone who
doesn't complain all the time complains about a post I make, I'll take
it seriously. I probably shouldn't have even answered the first time,
but I thought my reply was funny.

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 19 Nov 2017 12:11:39 +0000, Andy
Burns wrote:

micky wrote:

Despite my impression, it is probably working to lower the amount of
data flowing through my phone's hotspot to my laptop.

Look under developer tools in firefox/chrome menu (probably opera too)
for responsive design mode, where you can also fake a smaller screen,
modern websites will often react by showing smaller/fewer images.

I did notice that there seemed to be plenty of pictures, in one case my
rough memory thought there were more pictures than there had been before
I changed spoofed Android, so thanks for this idea too.

Right now I have 540MB and I'm probably leaving in a couple hours, but
if I don't leave until tomorrow, I'll do this later today, and I have
the idea for next time.