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On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 17:15:34 -0500, Alek
wrote: Lucifer Morningstar wrote on 11/18/2017 5:02 PM: On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 13:04:27 -0800, T wrote: On 11/18/2017 09:28 AM, s|b wrote: On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 14:03:50 -0800, T wrote: I personally am of one of those stupid ESR versions myself as the general release won't run on Scientific Linux 7.x What's stupid about the ESR version? It allows programmers until (March/April?) 2018 to switch from add-on to WebExtension! It freeze bugs and all and has very little innovation. Plus I can not see what my customer see in the general release versions. The new extension format is annoying, but I can still use most of what I want on Fedora, which supports the latest versions. The latest realease for Windows 10 is not compatible with Down Them All which was the only reason to stay with FF. In your opinion! :-) Leechblock is another I use all the time which 57 is not compatible with. I have gone back to 56. |
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On 11/18/2017 05:28 PM, T wrote:
Â*ChromeÂ*gratesÂ*onÂ*me.Â*Â*ItÂ*isÂ*notÂ*very userÂ*friendly.Â*Â*ItÂ*mayÂ*justÂ*beÂ*me. We all have out issues with most every browser. I really wonder if there is such a thing as perfect! But I've just gotten used to Chrome and maybe I've tweaked it enough to make it acceptable. I could probably do the same to FF too I guess. I once used it from the old Netscape days till about 5 years ago. |
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On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 22:49:43 -0500, Big Al wrote:
On 18/11/2017 05:28 PM, T wrote: *Chrome*grates*on*me.**It*is*not*very user*friendly.**It*may*just*be*me. We all have out issues with most every browser. I really wonder if there is such a thing as perfect! But I've just gotten used to Chrome and maybe I've tweaked it enough to make it acceptable. I could probably do the same to FF too I guess. I once used it from the old Netscape days till about 5 years ago. Do not use the latest Firefox, 57. |
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On 11/19/2017 4:33 AM, Lucifer Morningstar wrote:
On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 22:49:43 -0500, Big Al wrote: On 18/11/2017 05:28 PM, T wrote: Â*ChromeÂ*gratesÂ*onÂ*me.Â*Â*ItÂ*isÂ*notÂ*very userÂ*friendly.Â*Â*ItÂ*mayÂ*justÂ*beÂ*me. We all have out issues with most every browser. I really wonder if there is such a thing as perfect! But I've just gotten used to Chrome and maybe I've tweaked it enough to make it acceptable. I could probably do the same to FF too I guess. I once used it from the old Netscape days till about 5 years ago. Do not use the latest Firefox, 57. The latest version of FF 57 is every bit as functional as any in the past. I downloaded it when it was released, and after a couple of days learning the new version, and finding replacement addons for those that no longer worked it is working just great. The only addon that I could not do with out was Clippings but it has been ported to FF57, Added UserChrome.css to the system, an cleaned out the garbage that had collected in my previous version install. The only thing I find distracting is the disappear on one tab addon no longer works, and I have not found a theme I especially like, but those will come. I believe there are a couple of line that could be put into the UserChrome file, but I have not found them yet. -- 2017: The year we learn to play the great game of Euchre |
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"Keith Nuttle" wrote
| The latest version of FF 57 is every bit as functional as any in the past. | That may depend on what you want. There's a current listing here of at least a few popular extensions and their WebExtension (FF57 compatibility) status. http://arewewebextensionsyet.com/ Notably, there's no distinction made between beta and fully adapted. Not one is clearly marked as having been fully, successfully converted. Most of what I use seems to have gone missing. No Script, Status-4-Evar, Classic Theme Restorer. Hide Tab Bar with one Tab and Settings Sanity are not even mentioned. Nor is Secret Agent, which I don't think has made a signed version. (And I fully support them in that. Forced signing is about control, not security. It should be the choice of the end-user.) The problem is actually worse than it seems, at least for my usage. I'm using most extensions just to fix things that Mozilla broke: The ability to not use tabs, a visible status bar, settings for script, view source on the main menu... Those were all indefensibly broken and can only be fixed via extension. Now they've broken the extensions. I can understand the logic of limiting how deeply an extension can access the program process, but breaking things has been the only notable change I've seen with FF for years. Bloat and breakage. I'm not interested in shaving milliseconds off the time it takes CBS News to load 7 videos that I don't want to see, along with 12 ads and 7 trackers. I block all that anyway, and I don't go to many mainstream corporate sites like CBS News. (I don't think I've ever actually seen CBS News website.) I'm content with just a basic, functional browser that allows me to choose functions and basic UI elements. But the Mozillians just can't leave well enough alone. The ridiculous speed of their update schedule alone demonstrates that they no longer grasp the importance of stable, dependable, consistent software. It's as though the company has been taken over by teenage Linux geeks who only care about playing with new beta functionality. Which is the main reason that Linux on the deskktop is not successful: Cars built by hobbyist greasemonkeys never get finished. |
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On 11/18/2017 03:16 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
[snip] Wind chill only affects animals and humans metals andÂ* inanimate objects are usually not affected. Water pipes containing warm or hot water can be affected. Rene It should be anything with an internal source of heat, like animals, running machinery, and pipes with warm/hot liquid in them. Moving air carries heat away, so has a cooling effect on anything with a temperature above ambient. BTW, none of that "animals and humans" nonsense. We ARE animals (apes, in particular). No amount of pretending otherwise makes any difference. |
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On 11/18/2017 04:02 PM, Lucifer Morningstar wrote:
[snip] The latest realease for Windows 10 is not compatible with Down Them All which was the only reason to stay with FF. So its Windows 10 that is at fault. |
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On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 14:14:04 -0600, Sam E
wrote: On 11/18/2017 04:02 PM, Lucifer Morningstar wrote: [snip] The latest realease for Windows 10 is not compatible with Down Them All which was the only reason to stay with FF. So its Windows 10 that is at fault. No, it's Firefox and their move to webextensions. Nothing to do with Windows 10. |
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On 11/19/2017 2:12 PM, notX wrote:
On 11/18/2017 03:16 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote: [snip] Wind chill only affects animals and humans metals andÂ* inanimate objects are usually not affected. Water pipes containing warm or hot water can be affected. Rene It should be anything with an internal source of heat, like animals, running machinery, and pipes with warm/hot liquid in them. Moving air carries heat away, so has a cooling effect on anything with a temperature above ambient. BTW, none of that "animals and humans" nonsense. We ARE animals (apes, in particular). No amount of pretending otherwise makes any difference. That makes us human animals, OK by me. Yes I agree mostly anything with internal heat is affected by windchill. Rene |
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notX wrote:
On 11/18/2017 03:16 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote: [snip] Wind chill only affects animals and humans metals andÂ* inanimate objects are usually not affected. Water pipes containing warm or hot water can be affected. Rene It should be anything with an internal source of heat, like animals, running machinery, and pipes with warm/hot liquid in them. Moving air carries heat away, so has a cooling effect on anything with a temperature above ambient. BTW, none of that "animals and humans" nonsense. We ARE animals (apes, in particular). No amount of pretending otherwise makes any difference. pedantic Wind chill it the *perceived* lower temperature on exposed flesh by the accelerated cooling of moving air. Since a brass monkey or any other inanimate object cannot perceive anything then wind chill is not applicable. /pedantic -- Take care, Jonathan ------------------- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com |
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On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 20:33:26 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
wrote: On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 22:49:43 -0500, Big Al wrote: On 18/11/2017 05:28 PM, T wrote: *Chrome*grates*on*me.**It*is*not*very user*friendly.**It*may*just*be*me. We all have out issues with most every browser. I really wonder if there is such a thing as perfect! But I've just gotten used to Chrome and maybe I've tweaked it enough to make it acceptable. I could probably do the same to FF too I guess. I once used it from the old Netscape days till about 5 years ago. Do not use the latest Firefox, 57. I WILL continue to use it, but I will ALSO plonk YOU. |
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On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 07:24:39 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote: On 19/11/2017 4:33 AM, Lucifer Morningstar wrote: On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 22:49:43 -0500, Big Al wrote: On 18/11/2017 05:28 PM, T wrote: *Chrome*grates*on*me.**It*is*not*very user*friendly.**It*may*just*be*me. We all have out issues with most every browser. I really wonder if there is such a thing as perfect! But I've just gotten used to Chrome and maybe I've tweaked it enough to make it acceptable. I could probably do the same to FF too I guess. I once used it from the old Netscape days till about 5 years ago. Do not use the latest Firefox, 57. The latest version of FF 57 is every bit as functional as any in the past. Not so. They deliberately changed firefox to exclude useful addons like downthemall and leechblock which are the only reasons to use firefox. I downloaded it when it was released, and after a couple of days learning the new version, and finding replacement addons for those that no longer worked it is working just great. The only addon that I could not do with out was Clippings but it has been ported to FF57, Added UserChrome.css to the system, an cleaned out the garbage that had collected in my previous version install. The only thing I find distracting is the disappear on one tab addon no longer works, and I have not found a theme I especially like, but those will come. I believe there are a couple of line that could be put into the UserChrome file, but I have not found them yet. You should not have to put up with such nonsense. With a new version everyday Mozzila still can't get it right. |
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On 11/19/2017 11:09 PM, Lucifer Morningstar wrote:
Not so. They deliberately changed firefox to exclude useful addons like downthemall and leechblock which are the only reasons to use firefox. Just for the record the author of Download Them All is working on a WebExtension version, but has run into some technical delays. https://www.downthemall.net/ If you need a replacement, you may wish to download Download-Star https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...-star/?src=api The same is true for Leechblock. http://www.proginosko.com/leechblock...th-firefox-57/ Ublock has been rewritten as WebExtension, I believe Adblock is working on one. Both provide a similar function. It should be remember the people who develop these extension may be doing it in their spare time, and may not be able to meet their goals due to other circumstances. This information was all found with a simple search on Google. -- 2017: The year we learn to play the great game of Euchre |
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On 11/19/2017 11:09 PM, Lucifer Morningstar wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 07:24:39 -0500, Keith Nuttle wrote: On 19/11/2017 4:33 AM, Lucifer Morningstar wrote: On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 22:49:43 -0500, Big Al wrote: On 18/11/2017 05:28 PM, T wrote: Â*ChromeÂ*gratesÂ*onÂ*me.Â*Â*ItÂ*isÂ*notÂ*very userÂ*friendly.Â*Â*ItÂ*mayÂ*justÂ*beÂ*me. We all have out issues with most every browser. I really wonder if there is such a thing as perfect! But I've just gotten used to Chrome and maybe I've tweaked it enough to make it acceptable. I could probably do the same to FF too I guess. I once used it from the old Netscape days till about 5 years ago. Do not use the latest Firefox, 57. The latest version of FF 57 is every bit as functional as any in the past. Not so. They deliberately changed firefox to exclude useful addons like downthemall and leechblock which are the only reasons to use firefox. I downloaded it when it was released, and after a couple of days learning the new version, and finding replacement addons for those that no longer worked it is working just great. The only addon that I could not do with out was Clippings but it has been ported to FF57, Added UserChrome.css to the system, an cleaned out the garbage that had collected in my previous version install. The only thing I find distracting is the disappear on one tab addon no longer works, and I have not found a theme I especially like, but those will come. I believe there are a couple of line that could be put into the UserChrome file, but I have not found them yet. You should not have to put up with such nonsense. With a new version everyday Mozzila still can't get it right. PS: All software goes through revision processes to keep up to date with current technology. If you think this update has caused problems, you should have been involved with the update for Family Tree Maker. The release of new version was months late, and to integrate the new version into Ancestry, the older version interface with Ancestry was turned off. When the new version was released, previous version were fixed so they no longer did the function for which they were bought ie the web access in previous version was prevented. Mozilla did not prevent previous version of FF from working, just improved the software. -- 2017: The year we learn to play the great game of Euchre |
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