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High CPU useage after 1709 update
Peter Jason wrote:
The CPU fan whines constantly after the 1709 update and this seems due to the "antimalware" running on startup, but afterwards due to these applications in the Task Manager...... https://postimg.org/image/g4j4xd14h/ Is all this just temporary? Arnie Goetchius Nov.17/2017 9:58AM upthread, has the same problem. There's some problem with the Firewall. Now, yours shows an ICS (internet connection sharing) entry as well. Are you actually running a network connection from your machine, to a subtending machine ? I thought that's what ICS was for. With ICS in the past, a motherboard could have two NICS. One NIC would connect to the Internet side, the second NIC would run a connection over to a second machine, so it could "see" the Internet too. ICS allows you to "chain" PCs, without a router. But it requires all the PCs in the chain, have to be running, for the last PC in the chain to have Internet service. Paul |
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High CPU useage after 1709 update
The CPU fan whines constantly after the 1709 update and this seems due
to the "antimalware" running on startup, but afterwards due to these applications in the Task Manager...... https://postimg.org/image/g4j4xd14h/ Is all this just temporary? |
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Peter Jason wrote:
On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 17:35:13 -0500, Paul wrote: Peter Jason wrote: The CPU fan whines constantly after the 1709 update and this seems due to the "antimalware" running on startup, but afterwards due to these applications in the Task Manager...... https://postimg.org/image/g4j4xd14h/ Is all this just temporary? Arnie Goetchius Nov.17/2017 9:58AM upthread, has the same problem. There's some problem with the Firewall. Now, yours shows an ICS (internet connection sharing) entry as well. Are you actually running a network connection from your machine, to a subtending machine ? I thought that's what ICS was for. With ICS in the past, a motherboard could have two NICS. One NIC would connect to the Internet side, the second NIC would run a connection over to a second machine, so it could "see" the Internet too. ICS allows you to "chain" PCs, without a router. But it requires all the PCs in the chain, have to be running, for the last PC in the chain to have Internet service. Paul Thanks, I found something here... https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...8-32a104e21172 but I'm afraid to try it just yet. If I reset the firewall will this remove the call-home settings for some programs? Can I save just the current firewall settings, to restore just these after resetting? Any selective firewall settings to adjust before an overall reset? You can export the current firewall to a .wfw file (binary!). The question would be, if you export it, and import it again, would the (broken) firewall code in the new release do a better job ? I could understand if the file was XML and it was actually being parsed. But the file looks like binary, and what are the odds that an "import" procedure would fix stuff ? https://technet.microsoft.com/library/cc771920 netsh advfirewall export baloney.wfw # around 300KB or so The usual warning applies (as you would suspect)... http://www.thewindowsclub.com/how-to...ewall-settings "Do remember that, when you restore it to its default settings, you will lose all your custom settings & firewall rules. Group Policy will not be disturbed. " Right now, I don't know what file format that is. Is it a kind of registry file ? Dunno. Too bad it wasn't just XML, which would be unwieldy, but still readable by humans. Exporting the current rules, would give you a backup, but with no assurance the file can be reused at an arbitrary time in the future. It's really unclear what the utility is, of lobbing about binary-containing files. Paul |
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High CPU useage after 1709 update
On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 17:35:13 -0500, Paul
wrote: Peter Jason wrote: The CPU fan whines constantly after the 1709 update and this seems due to the "antimalware" running on startup, but afterwards due to these applications in the Task Manager...... https://postimg.org/image/g4j4xd14h/ Is all this just temporary? Arnie Goetchius Nov.17/2017 9:58AM upthread, has the same problem. There's some problem with the Firewall. Now, yours shows an ICS (internet connection sharing) entry as well. Are you actually running a network connection from your machine, to a subtending machine ? I thought that's what ICS was for. With ICS in the past, a motherboard could have two NICS. One NIC would connect to the Internet side, the second NIC would run a connection over to a second machine, so it could "see" the Internet too. ICS allows you to "chain" PCs, without a router. But it requires all the PCs in the chain, have to be running, for the last PC in the chain to have Internet service. Paul Thanks, I found something here... https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...8-32a104e21172 but I'm afraid to try it just yet. If I reset the firewall will this remove the call-home settings for some programs? Can I save just the current firewall settings, to restore just these after resetting? Any selective firewall settings to adjust before an overall reset? |
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High CPU useage after 1709 update
Peter Jason wrote:
On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 17:35:13 -0500, Paul wrote: Peter Jason wrote: The CPU fan whines constantly after the 1709 update and this seems due to the "antimalware" running on startup, but afterwards due to these applications in the Task Manager...... https://postimg.org/image/g4j4xd14h/ Is all this just temporary? Arnie Goetchius Nov.17/2017 9:58AM upthread, has the same problem. There's some problem with the Firewall. Now, yours shows an ICS (internet connection sharing) entry as well. Are you actually running a network connection from your machine, to a subtending machine ? I thought that's what ICS was for. With ICS in the past, a motherboard could have two NICS. One NIC would connect to the Internet side, the second NIC would run a connection over to a second machine, so it could "see" the Internet too. ICS allows you to "chain" PCs, without a router. But it requires all the PCs in the chain, have to be running, for the last PC in the chain to have Internet service. Paul Thanks, I found something here... https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...8-32a104e21172 but I'm afraid to try it just yet. If I reset the firewall will this remove the call-home settings for some programs? Can I save just the current firewall settings, to restore just these after resetting? Any selective firewall settings to adjust before an overall reset? It turns out the Windows Firewall dialog, as a "Diagnose/Repair" button in it. After backing up settings to .wfw, you could try the Diagnose/Repair option. Maybe it doesn't need to be hit with a sledge hammer, just with a rubber mallet. http://thewindowsclub.thewindowsclub...l-defaults.png Paul |
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High CPU useage after 1709 update
On 11/18/2017 04:35 PM, Paul wrote:
[snip] With ICS in the past, a motherboard could have two NICS. One NIC would connect to the Internet side, the second NIC would run a connection over to a second machine, so it could "see" the Internet too. ICS allows you to "chain" PCs, without a router. But it requires all the PCs in the chain, have to be running, for the last PC in the chain to have Internet service. Â*Â* Paul Than all PCs except the last have two NICs. Wouldn't it make more sense to use one such PC, and a network switch? -- 36 days until the winter celebration (Monday December 25, 2017 12:00:00 AM for 1 day). Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "The truth cannot be asserted without denouncing the falsehood." [Leslie Stephen] |
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High CPU useage after 1709 update
On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 13:58:20 -0600, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 11/18/2017 04:35 PM, Paul wrote: [snip] With ICS in the past, a motherboard could have two NICS. One NIC would connect to the Internet side, the second NIC would run a connection over to a second machine, so it could "see" the Internet too. ICS allows you to "chain" PCs, without a router. But it requires all the PCs in the chain, have to be running, for the last PC in the chain to have Internet service. ** Paul Than all PCs except the last have two NICs. Wouldn't it make more sense to use one such PC, and a network switch? ICS pretty much died with Win98. That's about the time when cheap routers came onto the scene, making ICS obsolete. |
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High CPU useage after 1709 update
On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 22:15:36 -0500, Paul
wrote: Peter Jason wrote: On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 17:35:13 -0500, Paul wrote: Peter Jason wrote: The CPU fan whines constantly after the 1709 update and this seems due to the "antimalware" running on startup, but afterwards due to these applications in the Task Manager...... https://postimg.org/image/g4j4xd14h/ Is all this just temporary? Arnie Goetchius Nov.17/2017 9:58AM upthread, has the same problem. There's some problem with the Firewall. Now, yours shows an ICS (internet connection sharing) entry as well. Are you actually running a network connection from your machine, to a subtending machine ? I thought that's what ICS was for. With ICS in the past, a motherboard could have two NICS. One NIC would connect to the Internet side, the second NIC would run a connection over to a second machine, so it could "see" the Internet too. ICS allows you to "chain" PCs, without a router. But it requires all the PCs in the chain, have to be running, for the last PC in the chain to have Internet service. Paul Thanks, I found something here... https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...8-32a104e21172 but I'm afraid to try it just yet. If I reset the firewall will this remove the call-home settings for some programs? Can I save just the current firewall settings, to restore just these after resetting? Any selective firewall settings to adjust before an overall reset? It turns out the Windows Firewall dialog, as a "Diagnose/Repair" button in it. After backing up settings to .wfw, you could try the Diagnose/Repair option. Maybe it doesn't need to be hit with a sledge hammer, just with a rubber mallet. http://thewindowsclub.thewindowsclub...l-defaults.png Paul I'm trying to set group policies to "not configured" to try & isolate the problem, but I get this before trying.... ****************** Administrative Templates --------------------------- Namespace 'Microsoft.Policies.Sensors.WindowsLocationProvide r' is already defined as the target namespace for another file in the store. File C:\WINDOWS\PolicyDefinitions\Microsoft-Windows-Geolocation-WLPAdm.admx, line 5, column 110 --------------------------- OK --------------------------- ******************* Is this significant to the problem, or can I disregard it? |
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High CPU useage after 1709 update
On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 22:15:36 -0500, Paul
wrote: Peter Jason wrote: On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 17:35:13 -0500, Paul wrote: Peter Jason wrote: The CPU fan whines constantly after the 1709 update and this seems due to the "antimalware" running on startup, but afterwards due to these applications in the Task Manager...... https://postimg.org/image/g4j4xd14h/ Is all this just temporary? Arnie Goetchius Nov.17/2017 9:58AM upthread, has the same problem. There's some problem with the Firewall. Now, yours shows an ICS (internet connection sharing) entry as well. Are you actually running a network connection from your machine, to a subtending machine ? I thought that's what ICS was for. With ICS in the past, a motherboard could have two NICS. One NIC would connect to the Internet side, the second NIC would run a connection over to a second machine, so it could "see" the Internet too. ICS allows you to "chain" PCs, without a router. But it requires all the PCs in the chain, have to be running, for the last PC in the chain to have Internet service. Paul Thanks, I found something here... https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...8-32a104e21172 but I'm afraid to try it just yet. If I reset the firewall will this remove the call-home settings for some programs? Can I save just the current firewall settings, to restore just these after resetting? Any selective firewall settings to adjust before an overall reset? It turns out the Windows Firewall dialog, as a "Diagnose/Repair" button in it. After backing up settings to .wfw, you could try the Diagnose/Repair option. Maybe it doesn't need to be hit with a sledge hammer, just with a rubber mallet. http://thewindowsclub.thewindowsclub...l-defaults.png Paul Thanks, I fixed it by turning off all 3 firewalls in "Windows Defender" and then turning them on again. I hope I don't have to do this every time I turn on the computer. |
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