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"Ron" wrote in message
On 9/7/2013 12:02 PM, dadiOH wrote: If you want POP3, Windows LIVE Mail affords that opportunity IIRC but you have to have a "Microsoft account". I have lived 80+ years without a Microsoft account and I don't want one now, not even to enable me to buy "apps" from their store. You don't have to have any account. It is part of Windows Essentials. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...ive/essentials Downloading it and using it are two different things. -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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On 9/7/2013 1:51 PM, dadiOH wrote:
"Ron" wrote in message On 9/7/2013 12:02 PM, dadiOH wrote: If you want POP3, Windows LIVE Mail affords that opportunity IIRC but you have to have a "Microsoft account". I have lived 80+ years without a Microsoft account and I don't want one now, not even to enable me to buy "apps" from their store. You don't have to have any account. It is part of Windows Essentials. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...ive/essentials Downloading it and using it are two different things. I've been using WLM since 2009 when W7 came out and I never *had* to have a MS account, but if you choose to do so it will save your contacts in case you ever have to reformat your computer. It saved me a LOT of time a while back. I also installed WLM 2009 on a laptop running Win XP because it's better than OE. |
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On Fri, 06 Sep 2013 19:07:11 -0600, Ken Springer wrote:
I did - see Message-ID: Saw that message after I posted mine. :-) Too bad I can't say I've never done that - I'd love to have a chance to say "Nyah, nyah" to you :-) I guess I posted the link above just to maintain my reputation - although maybe that's exactly what I *don't* want to do! -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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On Sat, 07 Sep 2013 03:02:46 -0400, ...winston wrote:
Using the 'news:' prefix in front of the Message ID is the route I learned long ago (never used it much but when necessary it has always proved to be the most productive). What's stumping me is why it works in 4oTude and MesNews (for you), WLM (for me) but not in SeaMonkey (for me). This sub thread has gotten too detailed & complicated for me to reply in a reasonable fashion to all of it, so I'll just remark on one thing :-) I don't have any actual *knowledge* of these protocols. The "news:" prefix is analogous obviously to the "http://" and other protocol prefixes, but it might work better if you highlighted the MID part alone or pasted it (without the prefix) somewhere. For instance, my reader has a place to paste a link in its menus, under Edit - Find a Message-ID, although just clicking on your links in both formats works fine in the original message display, but not in the follow-up editing pane. It's a can of worms, and not all that appetizing, I'd say :-) -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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"dadiOH" wrote in message ...
Not so. What is included is Windows Mail, a different thing. And a less than good thing, IMO; You can set it up to retrieve mail from Google, Hotmail and other such webby things but if you want POP3, forget it. IOW, it is useless...if I wanted mail from Google, Hotmail and other such webby things I'd just go there and get it. If you want POP3, Windows LIVE Mail affords that opportunity IIRC but you have to have a "Microsoft account". I have lived 80+ years without a Microsoft account and I don't want one now, not even to enable me to buy "apps" from their store. A Microsoft Account in Windows Live Mail and other programs in the Windows Essentials 2012 suite of programs is optionable (thus you can live a few more years without a MSFT account if using WLM). Two modes of operation are available 1. No connection to Microsoft cloud services (everything done locally, all data stored locally) 2. Connection to MSFT cloud services with (everything done locally with all data stored both locally and online in the MSFT Account) -- ....winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 12:02:03 -0400, "dadiOH"
wrote: "Ken Springer" wrote in message I've not looked at Win8 enough yet, but my impression was that the mail feature supplied with Win8 was WLM. Not so? Not so. What is included is Windows Mail, a different thing. And a less than good thing, IMO; You can set it up to retrieve mail from Google, Hotmail and other such webby things but if you want POP3, forget it. IOW, it is useless...if I wanted mail from Google, Hotmail and other such webby things I'd just go there and get it. If you want POP3, Windows LIVE Mail affords that opportunity IIRC but you have to have a "Microsoft account". I have lived 80+ years without a Microsoft account and I don't want one now, not even to enable me to buy "apps" from their store. Wow! Another "old guy" here. I thought I was the oldest at nearly 79. Buy I'm apparently having much more trouble than anyone else trying to learn Win 8. In fact, I'm about to bail -- and install an older OS. |
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On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 12:02:03 -0400, "dadiOH" wrote: "Ken Springer" wrote in message I've not looked at Win8 enough yet, but my impression was that the mail feature supplied with Win8 was WLM. Not so? Not so. What is included is Windows Mail, a different thing. And a less than good thing, IMO; You can set it up to retrieve mail from Google, Hotmail and other such webby things but if you want POP3, forget it. IOW, it is useless...if I wanted mail from Google, Hotmail and other such webby things I'd just go there and get it. If you want POP3, Windows LIVE Mail affords that opportunity IIRC but you have to have a "Microsoft account". I have lived 80+ years without a Microsoft account and I don't want one now, not even to enable me to buy "apps" from their store. Wow! Another "old guy" here. I thought I was the oldest at nearly 79. Buy I'm apparently having much more trouble than anyone else trying to learn Win 8. In fact, I'm about to bail -- and install an older OS. There really isn't anything to learn. With Classic Shell, my Win 8 laptop looks and functions almost exactly like my desktop which has XP SP3. Once in a long while, I wander into Metro screen land, mostly for the very decent map and weather link. Nothing to learn ther either except how to close the app; there are various ways, none all that obvious but Alt + F4 -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 12:02:03 -0400, "dadiOH" wrote: "Ken Springer" wrote in message I've not looked at Win8 enough yet, but my impression was that the mail feature supplied with Win8 was WLM. Not so? Not so. What is included is Windows Mail, a different thing. And a less than good thing, IMO; You can set it up to retrieve mail from Google, Hotmail and other such webby things but if you want POP3, forget it. IOW, it is useless...if I wanted mail from Google, Hotmail and other such webby things I'd just go there and get it. If you want POP3, Windows LIVE Mail affords that opportunity IIRC but you have to have a "Microsoft account". I have lived 80+ years without a Microsoft account and I don't want one now, not even to enable me to buy "apps" from their store. Wow! Another "old guy" here. I thought I was the oldest at nearly 79. Buy I'm apparently having much more trouble than anyone else trying to learn Win 8. In fact, I'm about to bail -- and install an older OS. There really isn't anything to learn. With Classic Shell, my Win8 laptop looks and functions almost exactly like my Win XP SP3 desktop. Once in a long while do I venture into Metro screen land, mainly because it has links to a very good map and weather. Nothing much to learn there either except how to close the app; there are various ways but Alt + F4 works just like always. -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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On 9/8/2013 11:57 AM, dadiOH wrote:
Once in a long while, I wander into Metro screen land, mostly for the very decent map and weather link. Nothing to learn ther either except how to close the app; there are various ways, none all that obvious but Alt + F4 I just drag the screen from the very top to close them. |
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